low watt (35 and 65 watt) Am2 cpus where are they? [Archive]

safan80

07-11-2006, 12:07 AM

I've been looking to get a low watt (either 35 or 65 watt) am2 dual core 3800 but I don't see them any where but AMDs cpu listing has them http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/

any idea where they can be found?

IvanAndreevich

07-11-2006, 12:37 AM

I read that 3 days ago the Energy Efficient 35W started appearing in Japan. Should be everywhere else within a month.

Pretty much all the rest are 65W, except the FX.

biohead

07-11-2006, 12:43 AM

35W, what voltage is that? And are those still on 90nm?

Mats

07-11-2006, 02:55 AM

35W, what voltage is that? And are those still on 90nm?
1.025 - 1075 V, 90 nm of course! Use the link above.

Here are some models (http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=cpuamdam2&sort=artikel&bpmax=&asuch=ee&filter=+Angebote+anzeigen+).

derektm

07-11-2006, 04:01 AM

Will these overclock a lot better than the non EE parts?

FghtinIrshNvrDi

07-11-2006, 06:27 AM

Mikesnav

07-11-2006, 06:33 AM

Already in Japan? Wow

I thought I read these were paper launched, and will appear late this year, early next.

arisythila

07-11-2006, 07:16 AM

naelq

07-11-2006, 08:56 AM

the ADD3800CUBOX (EE) is available in stock here in Israel. ;) but it's ~60usd more expensive than the regular 63W one. :rolleyes:

DrJay

07-11-2006, 11:12 AM

TooFast4Radar

07-11-2006, 11:19 AM

My 939 Opteron 165 is a 35-watt CPU.

safan80

07-11-2006, 01:47 PM

My 939 Opteron 165 is a 35-watt CPU.

thee lowest watt opteron is 55 watt, but I won't stop you from dreaming ;)

although some blades have 30 watt socket 940 opterons.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_8796_9240,00.html?redir=CPQR03

_Eduard_

07-11-2006, 02:35 PM

Mikesnav

07-11-2006, 02:40 PM

you're an idiot :slap: :nono:
I agree... We never dropped an hydrogen bomb on them.

arisythila

07-11-2006, 03:08 PM

hahaha, I was messing around... My wife is japanese ;-)

~Mike

Rudzer

07-12-2006, 08:55 AM

My question is, is this only AM2, or are we going to see these in 939?

Ryan

on edit: looks like no... sheesh, they sure are leaving 939 out to dry. I guess that's how a small company has to cope in Intel's shadow.

You seem bitter that AMD is not focusing on an outdate product line...

here is a tip if you want to get all the goodies what about UPGRADE...:stick:

i found nemo

07-12-2006, 09:47 AM

Japan has all the cool stuff before us... DAMN them. I bet another H-bomb will presuad them to send some cool stuff over here... LOL

In Japan they also have the dual core Turion processors. That was a few months ago.

~Mike

link plz turion is socket 754 and i distinctly remember someone saying no dual cores for 754

You seem bitter that AMD is not focusing on an outdate product line...

here is a tip if you want to get all the goodies what about UPGRADE...:stick:

not every one has the money for new mobo cpu and ram .... smart guy :fact:

akijikan

07-12-2006, 09:53 AM

link plz turion is socket 754 and i distinctly remember someone saying no dual cores for 754

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=30392
Socket S1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turion_X2

Rickster_64

07-12-2006, 01:20 PM

You seem bitter that AMD is not focusing on an outdate product line...

here is a tip if you want to get all the goodies what about UPGRADE...:stick:

I really don't agree with Socket 939 being outdated. I would call 754 that, but not 939. AM2 has been out what 6 weeks? Hardly making 939 models obselete. AND not to mention we are all getting the shaft from AMD cause exactly ZERO 65nm chips will ever be made on 939 so we are indeed going to be forced into a new purchase to get higher clocks. Although, looking ath the latest roadmaps, it doesnt look good for 65nm either. More like a Winchester Rev. D for most of next year. AM2 is a good product, but are they waiting for 65nm to deliver the big quantity of 'low wattage' chips? who knows.

safan80

07-12-2006, 01:42 PM

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=30392
Socket S1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turion_X2

linking to wikipedia gets you -6 points.

arisythila

07-12-2006, 02:38 PM

link plz turion is socket 754 and i distinctly remember someone saying no dual cores for 754

not every one has the money for new mobo cpu and ram .... smart guy :fact:

Yeah, its on Socket S1, not 754. Turion X2

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=202701351&SearchEngine=Froogle&SearchTerm=202701351&Type=PE&Category=Comp&dcaid=17379

http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2006Jan/bch20060302035077.htm

ect ect.

~Mike

NXds

07-12-2006, 05:20 PM

Shoot im just waiting till they Drop the price on the Current 3800+ X2, though it the price tag on one of these suckers is $20-30 more i wouldn't mind spending the extra cash.

Rickster_64

07-13-2006, 05:37 AM

I would compare these EE's to something like the old school mobile Barton 2600+ chips. The things could clock like no othe ron stock volts. It's funny how so many of us especially with Opterons can take these SD cores to 2900-3ghz but AMD is not having a large amount of luck with them (at 1.4V or less.) More fun for us I guess! WOOT! That is probably why the EE's are tkaing a while to come cause binning those parts is as difficult as binning those for the FX line.

zerotol

07-13-2006, 08:08 AM

http://www.amdzone.com/pics/cpus/athlon64/socketam2/lowpower/3800%20stock.JPG

first review i have found about them

http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=257&page=1

perkam

07-13-2006, 08:59 AM

Socket S1 was scrapped long ago ;)

The ATI RS485-M Xpress 1100 (Socket AM2) was built especially for them, and there's a board and dual core turion notebook with THAT board on newegg :)

Board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135011
Notebook with Turion X2 using Board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16834115250

Here's A Turion X2 notebook using Nvidia 6150 AM2 mobo: http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?product_code=EZ643UA%23ABA&tab=detailed_specs&storeName=computer_store&landing=computers&category=notebooks/hp_pavilion/dv2000_series/dv2000z_series&subcat1=rts&catLevel=5#defaultAnchor

Perkam

couppi

07-13-2006, 09:23 AM

My Opteron 175 is 35 watts?

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
----------------------

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: Dual Core AMD Opteron 175 (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2608.18 (260.82 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 49C
TDP: 35.0 Watts

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=83

Although I think this reading might be from motherboard incompatabilities.

Turtle 1

07-13-2006, 01:24 PM

Here's a review from AMD zone . Not very impressive

http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=257&page=1

Mats

07-13-2006, 03:18 PM

Here's a review from AMD zone . Not very impressive

http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=257&page=1
NOT VERY IMPRESSIVE?:stick: :stick: :slapass: :fact:
Since when is 2450 MHz @ 1.075 V with stock cooling (http://www.amdzone.com/pics/cpus/athlon64/socketam2/lowpower/cpu-2449.JPG) not very impressive? Or this (http://www.amdzone.com/pics/cpus/athlon64/socketam2/lowpower/cpu-2820-1.35.JPG)? What do you expect?:confused:
Maybe a FX-62 can do better, but don't forget about the price...

couppi

07-13-2006, 04:13 PM

That is very impressive. They should bump the voltage up to 1.5 and see what it can do :p

Mats

07-13-2006, 04:19 PM

Socket S1 was scrapped long ago ;)

The ATI RS485-M Xpress 1100 (Socket AM2) was built especially for them, and there's a board and dual core turion notebook with THAT board on newegg :)

Board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135011

......
I think you've got it wrong, It's the regular RS485 (http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?MenuID=16&LanID=0&DetailID=654&DetailName=Specification).
The "..M-M" in the model name seems to be coming from (A)M2 - Micro ATX. Check out their site (http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/ProdMBModel.aspx?CategoryID=1&TypeID=35&MenuID=132&LanID=0) and you'll see other "...M-M" boards from VIA, SIS, and nVidia. nVidia doesn't make mobile chipsets AFAIK.

Rickster_64

07-13-2006, 06:22 PM

I dont think those voltage were correct, and AMDZone needs to note what the BIOS was set for as far as VCore goes.

Mats

07-15-2006, 02:05 AM

I dont think those voltage were correct, and AMDZone needs to note what the BIOS was set for as far as VCore goes.
Nothing wrong with the voltages, look here (http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=ADD3800IAT5CU) and here (http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=ADO4600IAA5CU)

darkhelmet

07-15-2006, 06:15 PM

I bet another H-bomb will presuad them to send some cool stuff over here... LOL

not starting a flame war, but why would you even joke about that (and on the technical side, it wasn't a hydrogen bomb...it was atomic)

fhpchris

07-15-2006, 06:40 PM

not starting a flame war, but why would you even joke about that (and on the technical side, it wasn't a hydrogen bomb...it was atomic)

Ive been to the Memorial and Museum in Heroshema, and I do not think this topic is appropriate to joke about. Many of our fellow XS members life in Japan.

IMHO Living in Japan > living in America. I lived there for 2 years or so while I was in the 'Corps, and I would go back today.

ssnseawolf

07-15-2006, 07:14 PM

IMHO Living in Japan > living in America. I lived there for 2 years or so while I was in the 'Corps, and I would go back today.

Not if you're broke...

The Coolest

07-16-2006, 01:14 AM

http://www.amdzone.com/pics/cpus/athlon64/socketam2/lowpower/x23800codes.jpg
The product code for the X2 3800+ shows ADD3800IAA5CU which means we have a low power dual core part. ADB4F is the batch code, and it was packaged on the 15th of June, so not long ago at all.

....

http://www.amdzone.com/pics/cpus/athlon64/socketam2/lowpower/x24600codes.jpg
Moving to the X2 4600+ we find ADO4600IAA5CU, and also a batch code of ADB4F. This was is two days older than its more miserly powered 3800+.

That is ridiculous. Only shows the level of that reviewer's knowlage...

v0dka

07-16-2006, 01:37 AM

And still he manges 2450Mhz at ~1.1v :clap:

safan80

07-20-2006, 11:46 PM

hopefully more retailers will have them after the 24th.

Rickster_64

07-21-2006, 12:14 PM

Nothing wrong with the voltages, look here (http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=ADD3800IAT5CU) and here (http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=ADO4600IAA5CU)

cpu-z is not the greatest judge of correct voltages is all. I wished they just took the time to say "at stock volts we hit....." Cpu-Z says my Opteron is running on .13V ;-)

breakfromyou

07-24-2006, 06:12 AM

That is ridiculous. Only shows the level of that reviewer's knowlage...

someone email the guy a picture of a processor made towards the end of the year? maybe i should...0538 XPMW, which month has 38 days?? its definitely not may...:rolleyes:

i definitely want one of those 35w 3800+'s. 2.45 GHz at just over 1v is pretty impressive. screw 1.5v. 1.6+ and phase!

vitaminc

07-24-2006, 08:05 AM

newegg? :stick:

:slapass:

Newegg's Athlon prices aren't even cut yet, and you expect them to have EE processors?

AMD is having so much trouble fulfilling demand atm, so the EE versions will be very sacarse. gamepc.com has some EE 3800x2. Haven't seen anyone with the EE semprons or EE SFF 3800x2 yet.

safan80

07-24-2006, 01:01 PM

:slapass:

Newegg's Athlon prices aren't even cut yet, and you expect them to have EE processors?

AMD is having so much trouble fulfilling demand atm, so the EE versions will be very sacarse. gamepc.com has some EE 3800x2. Haven't seen anyone with the EE semprons or EE SFF 3800x2 yet.

now you get the :slapass:

the one at gamepc is on back order and besides it's only the 65 watt version and not the 35 watt one.

ncc-1709

07-24-2006, 04:05 PM

lol. i have a screenie of my 165 doing 3.2ghz on 1.400v. and ITE saying 1.7v

dogsx2

07-24-2006, 04:25 PM

IMHO Living in Japan > living in America. I lived there for 2 years or so while I was in the 'Corps, and I would go back today.

I was in the USMC too. If you need money to go somewhere else because you don't like it here, PM me.

safan80

07-25-2006, 02:13 PM

vitaminc gets a cookie now because gamepc has the 65watt am2 3800 x2s in stock again.

http://www.gamepc.com/shop/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=GamePC+Online+Products&category%5Fname=CPU&product%5Fid=AM2%2D3800X2EEBOX

Eldonko

07-25-2006, 02:42 PM

safan80

07-25-2006, 03:07 PM

well it's not going to be me because I just brought a 3800 am2 cpu motherboard and ram combo. I just couldn't wait I really wanted to replace a dual cpu machine that sucks up too much power.

Serge84

07-27-2006, 08:27 AM

I really don't agree with Socket 939 being outdated. I would call 754 that, but not 939. AM2 has been out what 6 weeks? Hardly making 939 models obselete. AND not to mention we are all getting the shaft from AMD cause exactly ZERO 65nm chips will ever be made on 939 so we are indeed going to be forced into a new purchase to get higher clocks. Although, looking ath the latest roadmaps, it doesnt look good for 65nm either. More like a Winchester Rev. D for most of next year. AM2 is a good product, but are they waiting for 65nm to deliver the big quantity of 'low wattage' chips? who knows.

The roadmaps are accelerated. don't go by them anymore. AMD brings 65nm in the 4th Q of 2006. K8L after that in the 2Q of 2007. Or earlier. :stick:

arisythila

07-27-2006, 09:51 AM

Ive been to the Memorial and Museum in Heroshema, and I do not think this topic is appropriate to joke about. Many of our fellow XS members life in Japan.

IMHO Living in Japan > living in America. I lived there for 2 years or so while I was in the 'Corps, and I would go back today.

I lived there for.... 6 years. I met my wife there, I married my wife there.. I moved her back to WA with me. I have nothing against Japan. Matter afact, I only drive cars that were ACTUALLY built in Japan(Final Assembly in japan). I think sometimes you need the :banana::banana::banana::banana: kicked out of you to get better. And now, they do better than America. Technology is WAY better than America's ect ect.

~Mike