Who Makes the Best Power Supply?

[bowman1964]

well after i have been through countless power supplies.

overclocking these AMD"S is tough on a power supply.
I want to get some oppions on the best power suppy made.
I ordered a new PC POWER & COOLING 510 watt unit with custom built with remote adjustments on all the supply lines.
i have been running 550 antec's but they have disappointed me latley.
so what do you guys think are the best supplies out there?:)

[Nuvian]

hmm ive heard alot of good reviews/comments about antec true power series,i just orderd 1 of those my self a few days ago hehe,what problems did u have with urs?

[ricksimm]

PC Power & Cooling (http://www.pcpowercooling.com/home.htm) is probably considered the best but they cost- you get what u pay for. The TTGI 520 (http://www.directron.com/tt500ss.html) is what many people use and it has the adjustable pot.

[bowman1964]

Originally posted by Nuvian
hmm ive heard alot of good reviews/comments about antec true power series,i just orderd 1 of those my self a few days ago hehe,what problems did u have with urs?

well i like the supply but on a epox 8rda and a r9700 the 12volt side is pulled to the max on mine.11.82 tops on 12v side measured at the molex connector.but i have this problem with a barton running 2712mhz @1.975 in bios 2.05 actual measured on the board.and a raddy running 480core.this combination kills my 12v side.

and i ran alot of power supplys.i have 2 500watt.1 600watt and a 550 true power.where one has a good 12v it loses the 5v or i lose 3v side.the antec was the best of the 4 where the seperate circuits for the 3 voltages does help.the antec helped me get from 459core on my raddy to 480 just by changing to a antec...no joke.

but i dont like the low 12v.so i called PC POWER & COOLING and they are custom building me a power supply.but yes it is expensive.over $300 shipped to me.

[WxChaser]

I custom ordered a PC Power & Cooling 510W 2 weeks ago, and it totally rocks. I also had the 3 external pots put on it.

You won't believe the quality of the potentiometers they use, such fine adjustment, they are not cheap piano pots at all.

Voltages on all the rails are as steady as a rock...510 watts with 650 watts peak power. The important thing is that they have 40 watts amperage on the +5 and 34 amps on the +12 line - plus line conditioning, etc, etc, etc.

If it makes you feel any better I paid around 290 bucks for mine, which was over 3 times what I paid for my Antec P412X...but trust me there is no comparison to the quality of the build. I really like how overbuilt they are. Bob Roark, their GM at PC Power and Cooling, was a great guy to work with. Tony (RoydRage) really likes his 510W PSU from them also and he recommended them to me, I bugged him about the external pots.

One thing, the pots have very long wires and if you want to custom install into your case, be prepared to do some drilling!

Have fun...and thanks for the help you've been giving me lately too.

[bowman1964]

yea i dealt with cindy she was nice and she went to the GM, Bob Roark and he told her he was doing a few of these as custom jobs.yes mine was $290 plus shipping.

no problem on the help .anytime..:D

i appreciate the input makes me feal better about spending that much on a power supply.;)

[Hydro-54]

I heard the verax FSP300 is really good quality, i really dunno where to buy one tho :/

[bowman1964]

WxChaser
how long did it take for you to get your's built?

[nikhsub1]

PCP&C is by far the best supply out there. I got one used from a forum member about a year ago, Turbo Cool 450W. Solid as a rock. You may want to do a fan swap... The fans in these PSU's are LOUD, like 48dBa:eek: I slapped a 36CFM 30dBa sunon Sleeve bearing fan in mine and now it is nice and quiet.

[Svenn]

How do you custom order a power supply? I think I might get a new one soon, looking for 550W+. What should I look for in a power supply? I'm pretty sure my next PSU will be a PC Power and Cooling one... If I can save up enough money.

[bowman1964]

Originally posted by Svenn
How do you custom order a power supply? I think I might get a new one soon, looking for 550W+. What should I look for in a power supply? I'm pretty sure my next PSU will be a PC Power and Cooling one... If I can save up enough money.

well you have to phone call PC POWER and they will build it to you specs for a charge. it cost me $90 more to have external pots and completely load tested.will come with voltages set to 12.5v and 5.2v for me and i can adjust to the board i am using.

[Svenn]

Well, I don't know very much about PSUs, what are the main things I should look at when deciding on a PSU? What exactly are the pots for? How much would you say for a 550W+ PSU with 12.4v and 5.2v and external pots?

[DriveEuro]

TTGI Makes a damn nice PSU for the cost. The 550w or the 420. They both can have their rails adjusted via a pot. Very nice PSU for the cost.

[GVCryan]

Pots are to adjust the 12v/5v and occasionally 3.3v line. Many PSU's simply put a fixed resistor in their line, and therefore to adjust the rails you have to solder in your own Pot.

A few companies put variables in place of fixed, and these are what most of us go for. TTGI makes a great PSU for the price, and it has internal pots. Alot of the Folders use a PSU, I forget who makes it, but it is low wattage, around $30, and has pots. PCPC is the ultimate PSU, and normally has pots on all 3 rails, but you can order the pots put externally, which saves alot of time.

If you can through down the $Bones$, get a PCPC.

GO for a TTGI if not.

Antecs and Enermaxes are good, but you need to install VR's to get anything out of em.

[GVCryan]

Link (http://www.directron.com/500w.html)

Anything with a TT is a TTGI.

[I3lackCoffee]

Well I got yet another Antec 550W from newegg, had to rma the first one. Now my 12 v rail is looking great. My voltages on 3.3 though are very low at 2.75. I have had on lockups in anything though. My voltages are right now

+3.3 is 2.75
+5.0 is 5.0
+12.0 is either 11.98 or 12.04

I'm not going ot worry about 3.3 if it doesn't LOCK UP but right now seems to be runnig good, only had it running for 3 hours now too so we'll see if it goes up with a day or two.

[bito]

I3lackCoffee
If you are using Motherboard monitor to check your voltages then that 3.3 reading is actually your vdimm, NOT your 3.3v rail.
So...you have a good supply there.

[GVCryan]

Yeah, that is your Vdimm, if that were your 3.3, your vid card would be starving right now.:D

[sysfailur]

My 510w turbocool came, and UNF. That's what I say :P I got it all set up for 5.3v, 12.4v, and 3.4v. Love it!!!!!!! And this thing is built like a TANK.

[gobbo]

I've heard some good reviews of the Hyper/TTGI 420 and 550 PSU's. I personally am using a Q-Tec 550w which is good enough for my system :)

[Holst]

Ive always done well with fortron source units, currently using a Sparkle 400watt.

ive heard good things about TTGI and PC power and cooling.

I have seen several Q-Tech units at work, and ive found them to be some of the VERY worst units ive ever used (no offence gobbo)

[Crazymofo]

I have a 350w PC P&C it may not be 550w or have adjustable rails but man its built like a tank and my volts are rock solid... no lock ups and I have my system OC'ed pretty high... I paid less then $80 I could have had an Antec or TTGI 500w but I trust PC P&C... The last PSU I got from them is still running solid after 3+ years and two system upgrades...

[Major]

I've been through a bunch, PC Power & cooling all the way !

[spaceman]

What do you guys think about HEC (Heroichi Electronic Corp.) ? I've only heard good things about them before, and I had a 350 watt before that seemed fine. I saw a 525 watt HEC newegg refurb for $59 today, and snatched it up. ;)

[WxChaser]

how long did it take for you to get your's built?

It took them about one week to produce the custom PSU for me then about 3 days shipping time (well worth the wait). By far the best power supply I've ever owned.

[bowman1964]

thanks guys.i am waiting on mine to be built now.
tell you what would be cool if we could get a post going on power suppy mods to add the pots to the psu's we have now.there has got to be circuit diagrams floating around the web on antecs,and other's were we could post pics on how too's.with pots most of the good power supplys would be great.like it would be nice if i knew where to put a pot on my true power 550

anyway just a thought

[BrainStorm]

Originally posted by bowman1964
tell you what would be cool if we could get a post going on power suppy mods to add the pots to the psu's we have now. anyway just a thought

And a dangerous one at that ;) I'd hate for anyone to accidently fry themselves doing a mod rather than a piece of hardware!

[Jeff]

I'm always surprised when nobody mentions Sparkle as good power supply. I have 3 of the 350w models and they are all on 24/7 and feeding 2.4-2.5GHz AMD systems with 5.1v+-.05v.

Great deal for $44 delivered. ;)

btw, they even have a pot for the +5v line.

[BrainStorm]

Originally posted by Jeff
I'm always surprised when nobody mentions Sparkle as good power supplie.

I've never had one but have heard that they are good supplies. And it does sound like a good deal for $44.

[Holst]

Originally posted by Jeff
I'm always surprised when nobody mentions Sparkle as good power supply. I have 3 of the 350w models and they are all on 24/7 and feeding 2.4-2.5GHz AMD systems with 5.1v+-.05v.

Great deal for $44 delivered. ;)

btw, they even have a pot for the +5v line.

I allready did m8.

There made by fortron source, as are quite a few other PSUs.

You can usually tell as the model number will start FSPxxxx

[Jeff]

Originally posted by Holst
I allready did m8.

There made by fortron source, as are quite a few other PSUs.

You can usually tell as the model number will start FSPxxxx

:am: ooppss! :rolleyes: ;)

And thanks for the model number info... I'll keep that in the deep reaches of my gray matter in case I come across some FSPxxxx cheaply. :D

[Chong345]

There are so many posts in this thread that I didn't read the whole thing. PC Power and Cooling would have to be my number 1 choice. TTGI is my second.

Chong

[ppctx]

http://www.antec-inc.com/support_productInfo_details.php?ProdID=07555
if they would make this in 115v then there would be no need to custom order a power supply. Antec makes this true control series 550w with external pots to adjust all three voltage rails

[iolair]

My new Antec TrueControl 550...it's 115v. Each voltage rail can be dialed in via the bay mounted control panel......about a $160.

I got this one from Antec, but you all can probably find it cheaper once they become widely available.

http://images.theforumisdown.com/~coupens/files/Cleatus70.jpg

This one is for an aluminum case that I'm in the process of building:

http://home.pacbell.net/iolair/index.html

John

[Krizalid]

Bowman, keep us informed on if that power supply improves your overclocks or anything. Personally, I think all those high volts do is kill your components faster. :D I guess we'll find out soon.

[Major]

I've not seen the trueControl from antec b4, probably will be a good one, I wonder if its the same psu as the truepower with adj pots ?

bowman1964 why didn't you ask something simple like Democrate or Republican, or something about religion or abortion, you know something thats cut and dry.

[Major]

OMG I just went to your page on the computer case your building !

Who are you building that for iolair the department of defense ?

[Jeff]

Originally posted by Major Slaughter
bowman1964 why didn't you ask something simple like Democrate or Republican, or something about religion or abortion, you know something thats cut and dry.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Sorry, but that struck me as funny. :p

[bowman1964]

well i havent seen anywhere yet where power supplies were talked about.heck if i did, i would'nt have wasted so much money buying junk....:D
this should help alow of guys to buy the right stuff.

[bowman1964]

Originally posted by Major Slaughter
OMG I just went to your page on the computer case your building !

Who are you building that for iolair the department of defense ?


ha ha..:p

yea i like building the impossable.or try to anyway LOL

funny thing is i have be apraoched by a computer comp to build custom coolers for resale in there pc's.... thinking about this one.;)

[Major]

Just kidding you Bowman1964, I think the PSU is the most overlooked componet in a system, It should be one of the most important decisions you make just as important and the cpu or ram selction. Like you I have been through many, many PSU's trying to find one that actually can handle the load. I think we are close to the end of "cheap PSU's" though. The new graphic cards and mb/cpu are going to raise the bar.

[iolair]

Hey Maj.......were you talking to me? :-)

That's Ok.

John

[Stang_Man]

PC Power and Cooling<<<< Ultimate

TTGI<<<< Best Bang for your Buck

[MudWhistle]

Spaceman "What do you guys think about HEC (Heroichi Electronic Corp.) ? I've only heard good things about them before, and I had a 350 watt before that seemed fine. I saw a 525 watt HEC newegg refurb for $59 today, and snatched it up".

HEC is often overlooked, and i'm not sure why, they make better powersupplies then most of the brand namers out there (enermax etc), and are usually cheaper. My guess is they have poor distribution and marketing. I know they are big in certain parts of the world, just seem to be quiet around here (ontario canada), and other parts of north america.

I have had a few powersupplies from HEC, most 350W budget ones. They are quiet, heavy, and last forever. I have had one powering an old tbird system for over 3 years straight running seti, zero problems.

[TerroH8er]

i don't have one, but from all i hear, PC P&C is the best.. then I'd have to say Antec's, because i've never dealt with TTGI, Antec's are solid and last a while. However my next PSU will be a high end PC P&C, only becasue I know that PSU's last a LONG time, and it's a good investment, you don't need to continually upgrade like a video card.

[Method Man]

I love my enermaxes :) good rails and I trust them.

I only had one Antec PSU and it sucked mofo ass, the rails were low and unstable and also the back fan didn't move any air.

[youthemandan]

My vote goes for ttgi. My 520 wat ttgi took me all the way to 3172 at 2.2 vcore with no adjustments to the pots. They are really nice PSU's

[theonetheycall]

I just modded my 400w Antec(3.31v,5.08v,12.67v), and it's the last thing I would ever buy If I had to, OMG "Dude I'm Getting a TTGI" :D

[bowman1964]

Originally posted by theonetheycall
I just modded my 400w Antec(3.31v,5.08v,12.67v), and it's the last thing I would ever buy If I had to, OMG "Dude I'm Getting a TTGI" :D


that cool.now how did you do it....man i have been looking for a way to mod my antec but i have not found the right resistors yet:(

[theonetheycall]

My has Pots for everything :D
That compensates for the sh1T1st performance.
I can't even get my watercooled 2400+ and 3500C2 up to 200FSB b/c rails fluctuate like a horny monkey. :D

[Major]

Originally posted by theonetheycall
I just modded my 400w Antec(3.31v,5.08v,12.67v), and it's the last thing I would ever buy If I had to, OMG "Dude I'm Getting a TTGI" :D


I sent you a PM how did you mod the antec ? I need some help with my Truepower I want to add some pots. give me some tips on how you did it !! like the value of the vr you used and where you soliderd too in the psu, I saw some high wattage resistors in the psu and figure thats a good starting point, pls update.

[bowman1964]

Originally posted by Major Slaughter
I sent you a PM how did you mod the antec ? I need some help with my Truepower I want to add some pots. give me some tips on how you did it !! like the value of the vr you used and where you soliderd too in the psu, I saw some high wattage resistors in the psu and figure thats a good starting point, pls update.

yep thats what i wanted to know....LOL

[theonetheycall]

Mine had the pot's in place.. for the 5v/12v rails and the 3v rails. But I think it's still a POS, rails are way high with no real gain.

[Major]

thanks for reply I looked at your attached photo and its completely different than my Antec Truepower 550w, I'm going to open it up this weekend and play around with putting some pots on it and will let ya know bowman how it turns out

[isp]

I'd say definatly not antec, got one of those and I'm a little disapointed with the rails :\

[CCW]

Bowman - TheDude was very helpfu lto me in a thread i posted bout PSUs and recommended this one, its a dedicated PSU http://www.xtwerkz.com/power_supplies.htm. Havent enough cash for one at the moment but have a look and see what you think.

Hope this helps,
Craig

[bowman1964]

Originally posted by Major Slaughter
thanks for reply I looked at your attached photo and its completely different than my Antec Truepower 550w, I'm going to open it up this weekend and play around with putting some pots on it and will let ya know bowman how it turns out
thanks that would be cool.:D

[Susquehannock]

Just found an interesting 500w PSU for $78.
From the specs it appears to be a heavy duty server PSU
with 24-20pin adapter included.:)

AGPB P4ATX-500W Dual Fan, Power Supply (http://www.bostonbestpc.com/ag50atxdualf.html[/url)


Complete overload and overvoltage protection, fan speed control,
and monitor output .... nice features.:)

It's made by AGPB Enterprises (http://www.gpb-jge.com/file/ps.html). Never heard of that
manufacturer. Anyone here know of them?


here are the features:
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quote:

"Features

Support Intel & AMD Dual CPU Server M/B
(24pin connector for Intel Server M/B and additional adapter cable for AMD
Server M/B

One 24pin - 20pin adapter cable for regular ATX M/B

Fan Control Switch - for fan speed adjustment

One more power outlet for Monitor

Two 12 VDE ball-bearing fan

Output over voltage protection

Short circuit protection on all outputs

----------------------------------------------------------------


here is the manufacturer specifications webpage. HERE (http://www.gpb-jge.com/file/ap55f.html)

+12v = 28a
+5v = 52/66a
+3.3v = 26/35a

+3.3V and +5V max Output 260W,
Peak Surge Max Output 620W
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------


These look like sturdy PSU. Unfortunately, there don't seem
to be any reviews of them though. And very few vendors sell them.
Most of the ones who do are asking $120-$180 for the 500w and
over units.:eek:
That $78 offer might not be so bad.;)