Thinking about TEC cooling

[Method Man]

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6007950~root=homephotos~mode=flat

Ok thats my computer, now I was thinking about getting some things to do some heavy duty cooling :eek:

Am thinking about getting one of those big deep freeze freezers (to chill the water), MCW50-T, 2 high powered tec's 226W if I can get the 226w in the mcw50-t, the mcw462-UH coldplate, mabe an nice Iwaki pump, some high quality tygon or clearflex 60, and dielectric grease and all the insulation junk.

How much will this run me??? and what kinda temps should I expect???


Any comments or suggestions will be really helpful Thanks :toast:

[KnightElite]

Well, assuming that your deep freeze is up to the task of running 24/7, which it should be, and it can remove enough heat to keep the water chilly, then you can probably expect temps about 10ºC or 20ºC below your water temps, chillier on the vidcard than the CPU, obviously.

As to cost, well:

1 deep freeze - however much those are
2*226W TEC - 2*$40 = $80
tubing ~$20
1*cold plate - $20
MCW50-T - $60
Misceleaneous insulation


That should about sum up the costs, I would think.

[Method Man]

It looks like what I was shooting for is out of my price range :(

What if I just got these from www.swiftnets.com

Thermoelectric upgrade kit, (MCW462-U™ for AMD® processors) $56.00 and Meanwell Power supply(didn't say how many watts it is on there site :mad: ) $118.00

total $174.....now thats in my price range ;)


If I get these what kinda temp drop should I be seeing???
and will my heatercore be able to handle it or will I need to be adding a 2nd heatercore??? and if I do so will I be able to add a MCW50-T later on?

sorry for all the questions :banana:

[Method Man]

Here are my current temps with just distilled water:toast:

[Method Man]

Load


P.S. I saw your site and you got the same block as me just with a tec on it...how you you like yours???

[Method Man]

And here is the comp if you have not already seen:stick:

[Method Man]

I also think I will need to mod my front panel....because its restricting airflow I think.

Look at my temps now with the front panel off.

[KnightElite]

Yeah, I think your heatercore will be able to handle that load, and it does seem that some front panel modding is in order.

I really like my MCW462-UH, quite a bit better than my old Maze 3-1.

[Method Man]

Thanks for the help KnightElite!!!!

The last question I have is do you know where I can get the Thermoelectric upgrade kit??? I have looked all around and can't seem to find a place that has it and I don't really want to buy direct from swiftech because there resellerrating is awful.

The powersupply on the other hand is easy to get so that should be just fine but does it have enough power??? because the MCW50-T's 80W pelt is rated at 7.5A at 12 volts and the 226W pelt for the MCW462-UHT is rated at 12 volts and 25 amps...here is what the problem is the Mean Well S-320-12 12V, 25A switching power supply is rated at,

320 Watts single output Switching Power supply

Output voltage 12 volts, 25 amps +- 1% - R&N 150mV, Effi. 82%

Input voltage: 88~132 VAC/176~264VAC

Input frequency 47~63Hz

UL/CUL approved

2 Yr warranty

If that powersupply cant handle the 80W pelt I will just get a bigger enermax and run it off that with the rest of my computer.


Also If I add a MCW50-T later on will I need to add another heatercore?? or will another heatercore yield better preformance? because I have room for a bix on the top of the case if I take a 120mm holesaw to it like Blimpo555 did his. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=10531

Thanks again :cool:

[DaGooch]

If you have a 226W TEC powered by the Meanwell power supply, it is advised not to attached a 85W TEC to it simultaneously. Also, it is best not advised to mix and match TEC and non-TEC blocks in the same loop for optimal performance.

[Method Man]

I was thinking about doing it something like this...

From the pump to the heatercore to the MCW50-T to the Black Ice Xtreme Rev.2 to the MCW462-UHT and then back to the pump.

How does that sound???

I also think I will have the Mean Well powering the 226W pelt and I think I will buy a ENERMAX EG465P-VE(FCA). 431W and have the 80W pelt run off the 12V line that has a rating of 28 amps with the rest of the computer.

That all sound like it will work good?

[DaGooch]

Sounds like a good start with each TEC cooled blocks on different loops. :)

[Method Man]

Ok, just need to get the parts now :)

from www.swiftnets.com I'm going to get the Thermoelectric upgrade kit

from www.sidewindercomputers.com 2 3/8's to 1/2 stems, the MCW50-T, and Samlex America 320w Industrial PSU AKA Mean Well

from www.cooltechnica.com a Black Ice Xtreme Rev.2, and 10 feet of clearflex 60 1/2

total cost=all my months pay heh :toast: actual around $300-350 then I need to get the powersupply but I think I will get that localy.

hope this gets me close or into the sub temps or really damn near it :banana:

[Method Man]

Update.......I ordered just about everything (costed more than what I expected) I ended up spending $344.02 shipped and still don't have the tubing, 450W PSU, and some dielectric grease.

I hope this cools really well or I will feel like I have just been :smileysex

Good news is that I got the Black Ice Xtreme Rev .2 , the Mean Well S-320, MCW50-T, the thermoelectric upgrade kit, and some 1/2 fittings on there way :)

From the way it looks now I don't think I will be able to afford that 450W PSU so I was wondering if I can still run that 80W TEC off of my current 350W PSU??? It dosn't look like I will though because I got ALOT of crap running off of it.

Also when I get that upgrade kit and put the 226W tec on do I just screw it all together or do I need to add some AS3 to both sides of the tec then screw it all together?

:toast:

[fredgod]

Originally posted by Method Man
Update.......I ordered just about everything (costed more than what I expected) I ended up spending $344.02 shipped and still don't have the tubing, 450W PSU, and some dielectric grease.

I hope this cools really well or I will feel like I have just been :smileysex

Good news is that I got the Black Ice Xtreme Rev .2 , the Mean Well S-320, MCW50-T, the thermoelectric upgrade kit, and some 1/2 fittings on there way :)

From the way it looks now I don't think I will be able to afford that 450W PSU so I was wondering if I can still run that 80W TEC off of my current 350W PSU??? It dosn't look like I will though because I got ALOT of crap running off of it.

Also when I get that upgrade kit and put the 226W tec on do I just screw it all together or do I need to add some AS3 to both sides of the tec then screw it all together?

:toast:

yes u do need some As3 both the sides of the tec.

[bldegle2]

tasty little extractor.

b:D

[bldegle2]

running in this, cpu @2*c at idle, ambient under full load.

NO HOT AIR IN BOX AT ALL, very cool.

P4 2.53 @3.3gig, 3.5 gig max.

:D

[theonetheycall]

Ummm my posts got erased on the switch.. But good Luck with yer setup once again...

Pfff @ posts :(

[Method Man]

That really sucks....all my posts got erased too.....

I guess I will post what arived sofar again...

[Method Man]

MCW50-T

[Method Man]

ANd the Mean Well PSU...:slobber:

[gtcrispy]

Ah yea that does suck. Ok next question. For filling my system what would be better? A resivoir or a Swiftech Fill and bleed setup? I think i would rather use something like the F&B but don't know. Lets say I wanted to cool the water down some temporarilily with Ice or something would using the F&B make this pretty much impossible to do?

[Method Man]

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Here are some pics of what she looks like right now :) the 2nd attempt after I fried my 8RDA+:rolleyes:

The graphics card and cpu and t.e.c. cooled and the graphics card had heatsinks all over.....and the MB has that vantec copper nb cooler on there with the abits fan and top because the vantec's fan was going dead and the sb also has a copper heatsink.Thats pretty much it for right now...soon I hope to be doing the 9700 Pro volt mods:slobber:

[Method Man]

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And there are some pics of my 1st setup before it tragicly died...:stick:

Since then I have gotten heatsinks on my 9700 pro's memory, 2 enermax ajustable fans on the big bix radiator, an NF7-S Rev 2.0, and a 1700+ UPMW

[gtcrispy]

Your pics don't work :(

[Method Man]

You see them now?:toast:

[gtcrispy]

Yep they do. Looks nice. Now you just need it in a case ;) I really got to test mine lol. Its all on the floor:)

[full loaded]

I was planning to get a 172W pelt for my mcw50-t.
but how big is the standard 80W pelt in this block and can I just change de standard for my 172W our do I need to do some special thinks (pelts are new for me ;))

[Method Man]

I heard you need to take the whole waterblock apart to replace the 80W...:slobber: a big pain...but if you really want to do it then go for it ;)

[hedge]

Very nice looking (and messy :D) setup you have there method man.
Full loaded,
I believe you have to find a 172 watt pelt that is 40 mm X 40 mm to fit in the gpu cooler. You will also have to pull the whole thing apart because the block is designed to let the water directly cool the hot side of the pelt. As method man said, a "real pain," but it could be worth it if you get another 10 or 20 mhz out of it.

hedge