Intel EE just for marketing?

[jbizzler]

If I set my Pentium D 930 to Pentium EE 965 levels, would they be different other than heat? Would they eprform the same or is there another difference in the EEs? I want to compare my 930 to an E6600, and I thought since there's no side-by-side comparrison of the 930 and E6600, that I could have my 930 be a 965 and just replace it in the banchmarks.

[savantu]

Hyperthreading in the case of 965 and unlocked multipliers for both.

[jbizzler]

So my Pentium D 930 at 3.73GHz will perform differently from the EE because of HT? I can't decide if it's worth it to upgrade my CPU and mobo for an E6600. I need some in-game percentages. Forget SuperPi, that's not a game!

[M.Beier]

So my Pentium D 930 at 3.73GHz will perform differently from the EE because of HT? I can't decide if it's worth it to upgrade my CPU and mobo for an E6600. I need some in-game percentages. Forget SuperPi, that's not a game!

SuperPi is single threaded :rolleyes:

[jbizzler]

Okay, well, how does my 930 doing 1M pi in 32s, and an E660 in 15s, translate over to games?

[M.Beier]

Okay, well, how does my 930 doing 1M pi in 32s, and an E660 in 15s, translate over to games?

You cant... SuperPI uses mem + CPU.... - Games uses GFX as well... But some games it'll make quite some difference..

[Lestat]

in case you havent noticed there is a MASSSSSSSSSSSSSSIIIIVVVVVEEEE performance boost when switching to games using the Conroe chips.


if you are thinking about it,, and cant decide then you dont have a clue what the conroe is about and capable of.


ther eis no choice.

that chip you got now is a turd compared to the conroe.. and my 955 EE chip.... yup.. same thing..
my Venice 3200 @ 2.85ghz was faster than this cpu is..

[jbizzler]

I had always known Conroe would blow away Presler. It's just everything I find is based on CPU benchmarks like SuperPi, and few game benchmarks. I know it helps like crazy in FarCry, but I don't play FarCry. Quake 4 is one of the few games that massively benefit from multi-threading. Anyone out there with Quake 4, a Conroe, and a Presler, want to compare framerates for me? It's just... I have such a high-end GPU that I wonder if its performance will overshadow the CPU.

I knew Presler was crappy when I bought it. I just couldn't wait for Conroe for a new machine and didn't want to get a high-end 939 system becasue of DDR2. Plus, I was really hoping my D975XBX was gonna be rev 304, but now I'm glad becasue it gives me a chance to get an RD600 or P965.

[Lestat]

even though benchmarks are synthetic.

people need to understand that they still show which cpu's are better than others

to thats bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: is like saying that an Athlon XP is the same performing cpu as an Athlon64..

all it takes is one or two benches and you can clearly see what cpu is the better.

[grimREEFER]

its alot faster than a presler, but if ur really worried about fps in gaming, u should spend that money for another ati card so u can crossfire

[CPLB]

Here is one site I found that compares a mid-range Conroe with the 965EE:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2006/06/04/intel_conroe_performance_preview/5.html

I know there are more, I'll try to find some...

[Lestat]

ah yes but getting another ATi card will do absolutely nothing since that cpu he has is just holding him back all the way.


we've all seen the data showing what happens when you stick a conroe in a system single or sli or XFire.. its night and day why even discuss it.

like i said if you have to sit here and question it ? man.. dont even bother cuz you will buy it and it will be jsut a waste of money for you.

a stock conroe STILL beats that cpu.. and it doesnt take alot of time or effort to overclock it to the point where nothing currently on the market other than another conroe cna compete with it.

[jbizzler]

CPLB, that is exactly what I was looking for. So twice as fast in SuperPi means about a 50% increase in these games maxed at 1280x1024. Dang, that's way more than I expected. And I'll be able to OC it like crazy. Should I expect similar results at 1680x1050? Yeah, I want an E6600 REAL bad now, and I want to OC it to 3.2GHz. Instead of letting me sleep, I think I'm gonna sleep less. With my current cash flow, I'll be seeing this by Christmas:

ATI RD600
Intel E6600 @ 3.2GHz
ATI R600

SOO many sixes. I might use my X1900XT as a PPU, depending on how all that ends up going. If not, I'll sell it. WOW. And we won't see Conroe replaced until 08 by Wolfdale and Ridgefield, right? Kentsfield won't be mainstream at all, right?

[Anemone]

Back on topic - the EE's have open multipliers which is useful to some.

Conroe is pretty much the chip to own if you do any gaming, with a second place to the A64 X2's and a vastly distant last to Presler's.

:)

[pcoffman]

everything I find is based on CPU benchmarks like SuperPi, and few game benchmarks ... Anyone out there with Quake 4, a Conroe, and a Presler, want to compare framerates for me?

See here (http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2771&p=5)for some Core 2 Extreme / A64 FX-62 benchmarks. You will have to cross-reference A64 FX-62 benchmarks with a Pentium Extreme Edition to get a feel for the difference between Core 2 & PEE. A64 FX-62 should outperform PEE by alot.

[Foxie3a]

SuperPi is single threaded :rolleyes:

Well, the other processor(virtual or physical) could be used for the OS which would make a difference... But I'm wondering if u would actually see a hit because u already have another processor(physical) free. The performance hit is already tiny, I guess u won't really benefit from having 3 more free. I would think the OS doesn't need to do too much simultaneously.

But back to the subject at hand, I'd agree with everyone else that there won't be much competition, and upgrading the Pressler would only be a waste of money, unless if u have a lot of it to spend and are interested in the comparison. I wouldn't mind seeing ur results though.

[sealion]

See here (http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2771&p=5)for some Core 2 Extreme / A64 FX-62 benchmarks. You will have to cross-reference A64 FX-62 benchmarks with a Pentium Extreme Edition to get a feel for the difference between Core 2 & PEE. A64 FX-62 should outperform PEE by alot.


You play games at 1024x768?

[jbizzler]

Back to the main point though. Does my 930 at 3.74GHz perform differently from a 965? I know the 965 has more features, but do they affect performance?