Asus P5W DH Deluxe [Over-View] LOL

[Jagz64]

Asus P5W DH Deluxe [Over-View]

Source: Link (http://world.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=fr_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.overclex.net%2fhardware%2f2 10%2f1%2fcartes-meres%2fAsus-P5W-DH-Deluxe)

Enjoy :D

[Nasgul]

It's a sweet looking board.

Problem? No ICH8-R.

[vapb400]

Very nice board, well featured. However I doubt it will be the best overclocking board and that is what I am looking for.

LOL altavista certainly does some rough translations (yes I do understand that translating is ridiculously hard)

[Ad1tya]

Its quite and awesome board.

Mostly, ill be buying this, as I need a damn Crossfire Supporting board. RD600 isnt supp to release till like August/Sep.. Which is sad :(.

[Stelios]

I can't believe they put a 4pin power connector .... :(

[syne_24]

Why crossfire only on the good looking asus boards? I dont feel like doing a complete changeover and get rid of my vid card aswell.

[Skyline GT-R]

Because Crossfire is only for the 975X chipset. And those are the premium boards...

[Vric]

if it wouldn't have an heat-pipe and a parallel port, I would get it.

[FischOderAal]

that's my board man!

just ordered one and it should be shipped on 21. June! :banana: (some shops equal with their dates).

and for ~200€ excl delivery it's right at my price! *yeeehaw*

[Skyline GT-R]

Great let us know how it clocks! :banana:

[DaWaN]

ROFL the babelfish translation:

8 stages of the food
:ROTF:

But the 4 pin power is holding me back and it wonders me if this board is as good as P5WD2-E Premium

[Jack]

Problem? No ICH8-R.
What's so great about the ICH8-R?

[FischOderAal]

ROFL the babelfish translation:

:ROTF:

But the 4 pin power is holding me back and it wonders me if this board is as good as P5WD2-E Premium

somewhere in the article it is mentioned that they asked Asus why the only used the 4-Pin and the answerded that it is Intel Spec and due to the fact that the Core 2 Duos do not need that much Power.

sounds stupid for me... because some people will use Preslers or Prescotts on that Mobo...


What's so great about the ICH8-R?

not much. advanced hardware monitoring features and "Intel Fast Memory Access" technology are the biggest points. the last technology is senseless. because latencys do not have such a big effect on Intel based systems...

[Skyline GT-R]

No, that fast memory access has nothing to do with the ICH8R ;) Memory access is controlled by the Northbridge and the ICH8R is a southbridge... That Fast Memory Access you are talking about is a feature of the new P965 chipset ;)

[Mortal]

3 tablecloths

Damn, that just seals the deal for me! :p:


even if your PC is extinct

God, it gets better!

[jdam]

i like that fan you can put at the end (or the beginning) of that heatpipe/fins mechanism. should work well.

[JoeBar]

somewhere in the article it is mentioned that they asked Asus why the only used the 4-Pin and the answerded that it is Intel Spec and due to the fact that the Core 2 Duos do not need that much Power.

sounds stupid for me... because some people will use Preslers or Prescotts on that Mobo...


Intel prescotts and preslers do not require EPS12V (the 8 pin power connector) this is required only for XE cpus (955,965).

[FischOderAal]

No, that fast memory access has nothing to do with the ICH8R ;) Memory access is controlled by the Northbridge and the ICH8R is a southbridge... That Fast Memory Access you are talking about is a feature of the new P965 chipset ;)

ah, sry. screwed this up :( thanks for your correction ;)



Intel prescotts and preslers do not require EPS12V (the 8 pin power connector) this is required only for XE cpus (955,965).

didn't knew that. sry once again :toast:
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but, the one Heatsink is senseless (for Mosfet cooling), because with it only half of the Mosfets are cooled. I think it might be a try to transport the heat faster away from the chipset, plus having bigger cooling surface.

[DaWaN]

Intel prescotts and preslers do not require EPS12V (the 8 pin power connector) this is required only for XE cpus (955,965).

So you can't run 955's and 965's on this board :stick:
I think i'm sticking to the new P5WD2-E Prem. rev then :)

[Gautam]

A food hard disk? This will do perfectly with my lunch date with Conroe, can't wait to pull out the tablecloths. Stable food delivery too, how can you go wrong?

On a serious note, that 259 Euro pricetag ain't pretty.

[jrw]

"Core 2 Duet" :D

[illidan]

Intel prescotts and preslers do not require EPS12V (the 8 pin power connector) this is required only for XE cpus (955,965).
preslers do require EPS12V (the 8 pin power connector) :)

[GQJesus]

I gotta say...I'm really likin' that remote that you can power your PC on with.:banana:

[PcCI2iminal]

sweet !!!!!

but they will costs 300us$ in JP

http://www.ocworks.com/motherboard/asus_p5wdhdw.html

:(

[GQJesus]

Does anyone know the MSRP for the US? (or the range expected)

[Anemone]

Would prefer the 975X revised with the ICH8-R on it. Digital pwm shouldn't be something Asus is last on board for too.

Gotta see some reviews, just can't order blind .. :(

[CornerJack]

I make test this week-end :D

[Benny Lodewijk]

just got this board today.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/b3nnylase/ResizeofIMG_1081.jpg

but the problem is vcore is locked !!! i can't change the vcore at all. Waiting for the update BIOS

some test

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/b3nnylase/dualpi1m3ghz.png

[vanovich]

congrats on the board , would love to know how it handles high fsb .where did you buy it from?

[Benny Lodewijk]

congrats on the board , would love to know how it handles high fsb .where did you buy it from?

i'm not buying it. It's a sample from ASUS.

[Pt1t]

i'm not buying it. It's a sample from ASUS.


try with a lower multi to find max FSB plz :p

[Benny Lodewijk]

try with a lower multi to find max FSB plz :p

I'll do that after ASUS send me the newest BIOS to fix vcore problem

[Eastcoasthandle]

yea, I have read reports that the bios is having difficulty registering the cpu correctly. Or, the bios is not fully compatible with the cpu creating missing functionality that is needed to OC it at the moment...

[BulldogPO]

How high are those caps near socket?
I`m interested cos I want to use Scythe Ninja with it.

[Pt1t]

I'll do that after ASUS send me the newest BIOS to fix vcore problem


You dont need vcore to do it :stick:

[LoKi2k]

what is the temp of the nb, when the board is lying?

[mine]

loki2k

you mean for sure ......if the board is in horizontal position

because of the heatpipe ? This is an interesting question for me as well

[JoeBar]

preslers do require EPS12V (the 8 pin power connector) :)
Maybe that's what u think but it's not correct. Pls give me an evidence of your opinion.
To clear this out for u my psu isn't EPS12V compatible and my 940 runs flawlessly @ 4.52ghz... ;)

[LoKi2k]

sorry 4 my bad bad english... :(

but yes, you are right. thats what i want to know ;)

grüße

[EvilMoe]

Hello Loki!

Nice Board. I orded it for next week.
The Asus P5WDH looks very nice.

[stummerwinter]

Hello EvilMoe!

Welcome on XS!

:toast:

Sry for OT...:D

[mine]

hey this thread seems to be dominated mostly by europeans
:banana:

actually if we spell Benny Lodewijks in its origin

Bernhard Ludewig

:banana: :banana:

hey benny did you get the latest asus beta bios ??

[fr4nc3sco]

but at the moment the max fbs settabile from bios or aiboster it is 400 or 450?

[Schlingel]

all guys from forumdeluxx appearing here ;) sry for OT

[Evilsizer]

hope this thing does fsb-400mhz ocing min on air.
the black pcb is a nice change.

[CornerJack]

Information of the Conroe E6600 with the Asus P5W DH Deluxe.

http://www.overclex.net/data/images/articles/hardware/cartes-meres/2006-06-14/cpu-z1.jpg

And information bios :)

http://www.overclex.net/data/images/articles/hardware/cartes-meres/2006-06-14/bios1.jpg

[mine]

nice CJ ...you are the very first

more :clap:

[FischOderAal]

thanks for sharing Infos.

but what exactly is "FSB Termination Voltage"?
but good to know that you can overvoltage the Northbridge itself ;) on my P4C I have to rise the AGP Voltage to do so...

and: would you be so kind and tell me if you can disable SATA2 Legacy (you know, this thingie that SATA2 drives are recognized as IDE drives in Windows). that was the reason why my Abit Serillel 2 didn't work properly (only worked with PIO...)

€: seems like the Germans are most interested in this Mobo :D
greetz to all forumdeluxxers :D

[Benny Lodewijk]

this is mine with new BIOS :D, cooling with Air.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/b3nnylase/pi1m3500e6600.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/b3nnylase/pi16m3500e6600.png

[mine]

thanx @ lot B.

nice benches !

we have a group buy of the P5W DH here in Germany so you will attract
a lot of interested people...




some virtual

:toast: :toast:

[principino1984]

what's the highest fsb you can set by bios and by aibooster?

thanx

Marco

[Waus-mod]

max fsb please.

[CornerJack]

In Bios : 450 :)

[Benny Lodewijk]

I noticed some divider option didn't works. It always freeze after reboot.

[Waus-mod]

Can you please lower youre mp and find out what is max fsb.. not only the bios option please.

[skuliaxe]

this is mine with new BIOS :D, cooling with Air.

Nice Over Clock in AIR...
What are your temps in full LOAD?

What cooler are you using?
(I might not need Water Cooling after all...hehe)

[Benny Lodewijk]

Nice Over Clock in AIR...
What are your temps in full LOAD?

What cooler are you using?
(I might not need Water Cooling after all...hehe)

thanks. According to AI Booster the temp is 38 degree vcore 1.5 volt. I'm using HSF Gigabyte G-Power Pro

[CornerJack]

Nothing is optimized, my objectif is to see until where I can go in aircooling.
For the moment, the processor running at 3510MHz with 1.4125v (I know CPU-z and Asus says more):D

http://www.overclex.net/data/images/articles/hardware/cartes-meres/2006-06-14/3d2006-8632.jpg

[|-jokker-|]

The board is looking good till now .
Good mhz indeed .
Can we need now some fsb max and hardcore oc :P

[CornerJack]

Tomorrow prommy :D

[georgesod]

The problem for me is the low vdim

[Rovtar]

omfg great mobo :D

[Benny Lodewijk]

The problem for me is the low vdim

2.4v is not enough ?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/b3nnylase/P5W_DH_bios02.jpg

[|-jokker-|]

Tomorrow prommy :D

Tomorrow no .
Today :P

[georgesod]

2.4v is not enough ?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/b3nnylase/P5W_DH_bios02.jpg

Well comparing it with the new dfi 975 it is

[phobos]

€: seems like the Germans are most interested in this Mobo :D
greetz to all forumdeluxxers :D

Skoal bro' :toast:

Can't wait to get my new toys together and play around ;)

What about VCore droop on that board?

[JoeBar]

Also if the restart/shutdown prob still exists?

[bogdannovaceanu]

In Bios : 450 :)
wrong !!! max fsb is 400 mhz!look on asus site !

[CornerJack]

wrong !!! max fsb is 400 mhz!look on asus site !

:nono:

http://www.overclex.net/data/images/articles/hardware/cartes-meres/2006-06-14/bios2.jpg

[mine]

wrong !!! max fsb is 400 mhz!look on asus site !

i think people , who actually are testing the board will know it better
my friend

[bogdannovaceanu]

specifications from asus : max fsb=400.......http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1198&l1=3&l2=11&l3=0

[CornerJack]

specifications from asus : max fsb=400.......http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1198&l1=3&l2=11&l3=0

Aircooling just now... 1.6v
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=100619

http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/100619.png

[mine]

very nice ..
3,7@410 fsb on air with a 6600 stepping 4 and so lala cooler ;-)
impressive !

[Skyline GT-R]

Apparently Asus site is wrong... don't guys understand that? If someone who actualy has the board tells is it's 450 and he shows a picture to proof it... Then I know what to think....

[Iconyu]

specifications from asus : max fsb=400.......http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1198&l1=3&l2=11&l3=0

I can't believe you're arguing with someone that owns the board.

Edit: CornerJack, I would have thought your ram would run 1:1 even at 410fsb, why is your CPUZ saying 4:3?

[ost_2005]

What about Vdroop? This is which I care most.

So please tell me.Thank in advance.

[CornerJack]

I can't believe you're arguing with someone that owns the board.

Edit: CornerJack, I would have thought your ram would run 1:1 even at 410fsb, why is your CPUZ saying 4:3?
Sorry, I must edit my signature because the Corsair memory is on the road, for the test actually it's OCZ 5400 4-4-4-12

[elec999]

The board look good. But whats that Asus ez backup, there like a small plate on the board, that says Asus ez backup
Thanks

[generics_user]

The board look good. But whats that Asus ez backup, there like a small plate on the board, that says Asus ez backup
Thanks
from asus-page:

ASUS EZ-Backup™
Others guarantee your hard-drive, EZ-Backup guarantees your data on the hard-drive.
No driver, no configuration, just plug and play RAID to backup your data instantaneously. Exclusive to ASUS EZ-Backup™, users can utilize SATA2 technology to arrange RAID1 (default) or RAID0 system without BIOS or any other setup. EZ-Backup™ is ideal for anyone who wishes to secure the data on the hard-drive but doesn't want the hassle of complicated software configuration. EZ-Backup™ looks after your data for you.

[freestylercs]

Skoal bro' :toast:

Can't wait to get my new toys together and play around ;)

What about VCore droop on that board?

lol


@2,4V looks good, but not good enough, i think.

free

[phobos]

@2,4V looks good, but not good enough, i think.


Mods are on their way ;) (Or actually already here?)

[mine]

Sorry, I must edit my signature because the Corsair memory is on the road, for the test actually it's OCZ 5400 4-4-4-12

CJ do you have a link to the beta bios 0065 ?

[CornerJack]

Tomorrow no .
Today :P

News from my test today with Prommy.
The resuslt is no good :(

Impossible to have a FSB > 422MHz ? Max is 9 x 422MHz, 423MHz = freeze.
I have make a test with a multiplicator 8 and 8 x 422 = perfect, 8 x 423 = freeze...

I installed Clock Gen and it's possible to have a FSB 500MHz but even if I take 450, it remains blocked to 422...

My best score today with SuperPI is 13,594. My bios is 0065 and I have see Kyosen with fsb 450MHz and bios 0401.

[mine]

9x423 is :stick: more than 3,8 GHz on air with a 6600

without any mod....

this is great CJ !!!

[toddm27]

this board is looking promising, can't wait for some to start hitting the shelfs in the us

[fr4nc3sco]

it is possible to know where to download bios 0065 and 0401?
default that bios there is?

[FischOderAal]

it is possible to know where to download bios 0065 and 0401?
default that bios there is?

http://members.inode.at/p.damjanovic/0065.rar :toast:

[fr4nc3sco]

http://members.inode.at/p.damjanovic/0065.rar :toast:

tnx :toast:

[Benny Lodewijk]

yes, max FSB i got is 420 MHz.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/b3nnylase/420asusp5w_dh02.png

[CornerJack]

Benny Lodewijk, you have the same problem ? It's not possible to habe a FSB > 420 ?

[Benny Lodewijk]

Benny Lodewijk, you have the same problem ? It's not possible to habe a FSB > 420 ?

yes and i'm still go on air with it.

[ost_2005]

yes, max FSB i got is 420 MHz.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/b3nnylase/420asusp5w_dh02.png
What about Vdroop? This is which I care most.

So please tell me.Thank in advance.

[LoKi2k]

fsb 420 is good for me. i hope i can run my 6700 @ 4,2 ghz 24/7 rockstable with singlestage...

[FischOderAal]

http://members.inode.at/p.damjanovic/0065.rar :toast:

this one is uploaded by a german Forumdeluxx Member called DonniPredi (http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/member.php?u=11718). ;) thank him ;)

[CornerJack]

YES ! Good news, I put the tension of the chipset to the maximum (1.65v)
And SuperPI : 12.891
Tomorrow, I have Corsair PC8500 :D
But, I have bug with CPU-z ??? an idea ?

http://www.overclex.net/data/images/articles/hardware/cartes-meres/2006-06-14/pi12.891bis.jpg

[sierra_bound]

Nice clocks on that E6600. :up:

CPU-Z has trouble reading Conroe speeds. Try using Crystal CPUID instead.

http://crystalmark.info/download/index-e.html

Just click on the left-side screen for the latest version.

[vanovich]

just disable eist in biose .its becouse iest jumps in when idle . to save energy .is it 2xprime stable there? nice clock .what voltage you feeding the cpu ,1,7?

[sierra_bound]

On some boards like the Bad Axe, EIST can't be disabled in BIOS, at least not to my knowledge. I'm not sure if the Asus board has a setting.

Crystal CPUID will read the correct speed, even at idle.

[LoKi2k]

how far can you go with prime? would you please so kind and test 15 or 30 minutes?

[i||uSi0n^]

first of all hello to every'1, this is my first post here, been arround for a while reading on conroe etc and thought its really time to join in on the fun :)

P5W DH sure looks like a nice board but now im not sure about either to get a P5B Deluxe or P5W DH especially the difference between both is arround +/-15 euro, btw does the board feature that "asus cpu multiplier unlock" thingy...?

thanks,
i||uSi0n^

[LoKi2k]

welcome to xs.org ;)

[i||uSi0n^]

welcome to xs.org ;)

thank you :)

[Anemone]

Indeed welcome. I'm thinking P5WDH as well but also heavily considering the NF5 board that Asus will bring to the table.

[lawrywild]

Indeed welcome. I'm thinking P5WDH as well but also heavily considering the NF5 board that Asus will bring to the table.

I reckon it'll definately be an improvement over Intel NF4 but IMO it won't threaten the i975x though. So prove me wrong Nv :D

[Schlingel]

new bios 0502

ftp://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/P5WDH502.zip

[fr4nc3sco]

very good

it qualifies of fsb the higher or various voltages?

[CornerJack]

new bios 0502

ftp://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/P5WDH502.zip
The bios 0502 = Bios 0065 ;)

[BulldogPO]

So, how does it look? Can I install Scythe Ninja to this board or not?

[426hemi]

Looks like a promising board:) I'm subscribed!

[JoeBar]

I'm interested in this board but i have some questions:
1. Does it have the v-drop prob and by what margin?
2. Does it have the restart/shutdown prob above a certain fsb?
3. In a normal ATX case with 7 pci slots, does the first vga sits on slot number 1 or 2 (counting from up)?

[vanovich]

I'm interested in this board but i have some questions:
1. Does it have the v-drop prob and by what margin?
2. Does it have the restart/shutdown prob above a certain fsb?
3. In a normal ATX case with 7 pci slots, does the first vga sits on slot number 1 or 2 (counting from up)?
the restart problem seems to be solved. from what they say

[JoeBar]

Thanks. :)
So 2 more to go...

[phobos]

Thanks. :)
So 2 more to go...

I'm not sure about that but I read in a German forum that Vcore drops only about 0.02-0.03V under load, so it's not too shabby ;)

[CornerJack]

News bios from Asus : 0504 with FSB max 500MHz ! :D

http://www.overclex.net/data/images/articles/hardware/cartes-meres/2006-06-14/bios0504.jpg

[hookid]

News bios from Asus : 0504 with FSB max 500MHz ! :D

http://www.overclex.net/data/images/articles/hardware/cartes-meres/2006-06-14/bios0504.jpg

score!:banana: lets see some CPU-Z screens of it actually running, at above 420

[M3kk]

News bios from Asus : 0504 with FSB max 500MHz ! :D

http://www.overclex.net/data/images/articles/hardware/cartes-meres/2006-06-14/bios0504.jpg

Please post your max SPI 1M stable FSB with this Bios :D

[CornerJack]

Please post your max SPI 1M stable FSB with this Bios :D
445MHz :( but monday, I have a E6700 :D

[fr4nc3sco]

News bios from Asus : 0504 with FSB max 500MHz ! :D

http://www.overclex.net/data/images/articles/hardware/cartes-meres/2006-06-14/bios0504.jpg

but where is found this bios 0504?

[CornerJack]

but where is found this bios 0504?
If you want, send me a mail and I send to you ;)

[fr4nc3sco]

445MHz :( but monday, I have a E6700 :D
probably the 445 fbs it is the limit of the chipset with that voltage you must try to make the vmod and to use 1,725v or advanced
tnx for bios

[k0nsl]

Can somebody please confirm whether or not Asus P5W DH Deluxe is compatible with Pentium D 805? I might buy this board and a P-D 805 until Conroe comes...

Pentium D 805 are so damn cheap now its hard to resist them.

-k0nsl

[Stelios]

445MHz :( but monday, I have a E6700 :D

445Mhz wiith 1.65Vchip ???

[Anemone]

I sadly noted that it only has 4 SATA coming off the ICH7R or so Asus specs say. Oh well seems to be a great board in all other respects

[vanovich]

Can somebody please confirm whether or not Asus P5W DH Deluxe is compatible with Pentium D 805? I might buy this board and a P-D 805 until Conroe comes...

Pentium D 805 are so damn cheap now its hard to resist them.

-k0nsl
yes it should do,try there support.www.asus.com

[phobos]

Can somebody please confirm whether or not Asus P5W DH Deluxe is compatible with Pentium D 805? I might buy this board and a P-D 805 until Conroe comes...

Pentium D 805 are so damn cheap now its hard to resist them.

-k0nsl

Of course it will work. It supports the whole Pentium D and Celeron line. Boards are most likely backwards compatible, as there would be no reason to drop the support for current CPUs. You can also download the manual from asus now and double check that.

EDIT: I will also use a D805 on it, till Conroe arrives. But I won't have my hardware before the end of next week.

[principino1984]

there's a friend of mine who just got this mainboard (with a B0), but he cant chancge the vcore, I have no clue why, since he update the bios with the newst one. Does he have to make some mod like in the intel or what? Because he told me that he can see the vcore adjust option, but he can't change it.
Marco

[FischOderAal]

there are more ppl with problems like that. check this thread ;)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=104288

[426hemi]

I noticed that I only see three sata connectors grouped together for the southbridge controller on this board. Where is the fourth one? Will I be able to connect 5 sata drives on this board? 3 in raid 0, 1 for storage, 1 for backup.

[Anemone]

There are indeed 3 on ICH7 2 on the new SIL 4723 steelvine chip and a 6th internal and 7th esata as well.

If you can stand to have just 3 on the ICH7R and the rest on the SIL 4723 you are gtg.

[taemun]

There are indeed 3 on ICH7 2 on the new SIL 4723 steelvine chip and a 6th internal and 7th esata as well.

If you can stand to have just 3 on the ICH7R and the rest on the SIL 4723 you are gtg.

WTF why do Asus only have 3 from the SB? Don't _all_ ICH7R's have four ports available? :stick:

:nono: Asus ....

[Anemone]

I have a hunch they used the fourth port to run to the Sil 4723. Why? Because the Sil 4723 is supposed to run seamless raid with any ICH7 mounted disk. That leads me to think it's literally an extension of the ICH7 4th link. Seem reasonable?

[taemun]

I have a hunch they used the fourth port to run to the Sil 4723. Why? Because the Sil 4723 is supposed to run seamless raid with any ICH7 mounted disk. That leads me to think it's literally an extension of the ICH7 4th link. Seem reasonable?

Perhaps...


Intel ICH7R South Bridge:
*1 x UltraDMA 100/66/33
*3 x Serial ATA 3.0Gb/s with Intel® Matrix Storage Technology with RAID 0, 1, 5 support
Jmicron JMB363 controller
*1 x UltraDMA 133/100/66
*1 x External Serial ATA 3.0Gb/s (ASUS SATA-on-the-Go) and 1 x Serial ATA 3.0Gb/s with RAID 0, 1, JBOD support
Silicon Image 4723 Hardware RAID controller (ASUS EZ-Backup)
*2 x Serial ATA 3.0Gb/s with RAID 0, 1 support
*Support RAID 10 cross Intel® ICH7R and Silicon Image 4723 controller


Hmmmm...
/me goes in search of SII 4723 specs... bbl :)

edit: damn you're good :P
http://www.siliconimage.com/images/products/4723_front_715.jpg

Now the obvious question: why o.0 ... wouldn't it be cheaper/easier to run either an ICH8(R) or a SII3132 from PCIe to 2xSATA300 .. :S

[Anemone]

It seemed logical. I'd bet they didn't believe the ICH8 was going to be debugged enough in time to graft it onto a 975x northbridge and have the board to market by the end of June. I have a funny feeling Asus suspected Intel might be early, lol.

Now who would have wanted to be in the meeting where the exec stated "hey I think Intel will be early this time"? rofl

PS: Good hunting!

[taemun]

Hmmm ... so why not run one of the ICH7's ports over to a SiI 3726:
http://www.siliconimage.com/images/products/SiI_3726.jpg

And have :banana::banana::banana::banana:loads of SATA ports :D (or better yet, run all four ICH7 ports through 3726's, have 20 SATA ports and call it a leecher special edition :toast:)

Mmm..... 20 ports :D

On a side note ... can anyone find a device that actually uses the SII3726?? All that my googling can turn up is this: http://www.cooldrives.com/cosapomubrso.html

Sounds like it'd be the perfect device for mounting inside on of those external sata raid box type things, then you wouldn't have to worry about the processor speed etc of the box (cos its all handled by the 3726 :)).

Anyway, enough o/t stuff
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[Anemone]

That's probably how Abit got their boatload of SATA ports.

Sleeping now. We'll learn more in testing. Probably fair to say the P5WDH shouldn't be over or undersupplied with SATA ports. Enough and that's fine by me.

[taemun]

That's probably how Abit got their boatload of SATA ports.

Sleeping now. We'll learn more in testing. Probably fair to say the P5WDH shouldn't be over or undersupplied with SATA ports. Enough and that's fine by me.

Nah the Abit has 6 from ICH8R, 2 from a JMicron JMB363, and 1+1xeSATA from a SiI3132 chip, for a total of 10 (says: http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=AB9+Pro&fMTYPE=LGA775)

nn :)

[426hemi]

There are indeed 3 on ICH7 2 on the new SIL 4723 steelvine chip and a 6th internal and 7th esata as well.

If you can stand to have just 3 on the ICH7R and the rest on the SIL 4723 you are gtg.

Thanks, that will work out fine:)

[BulldogPO]

Great, enuff SATA ports this time.

[Evilsizer]

426hemi
hope you dont mind if i borrow your car! :slobber:

[BulldogPO]

426Hemi, is that 1970 Cuda?

[426hemi]

426Hemi, is that 1970 Cuda?

Yes it is

[BulldogPO]

Great car I always wanted to buy one to play with, 383 R/T would be sweet with little bit of modernization, like uprated lowering sprigs and big alloys :)
BTW, I'm going to use P4 630 with this mobo until I have my Conroe/Allendale.

[hukhound]

Can somebody please confirm whether or not Asus P5W DH Deluxe is compatible with Pentium D 805? I might buy this board and a P-D 805 until Conroe comes...

Pentium D 805 are so damn cheap now its hard to resist them.

-k0nsl


Of course it will work. It supports the whole Pentium D and Celeron line. Boards are most likely backwards compatible, as there would be no reason to drop the support for current CPUs. You can also download the manual from asus now and double check that.

EDIT: I will also use a D805 on it, till Conroe arrives. But I won't have my hardware before the end of next week.

[edit: Update to this post - Simonmaltby confirms in post ahead that this MB runs as low as 100MHz FSB. Thanks again Simon for the good news.]

Original post:

Not so fast - I'm definitely no expert but it might not work with D805! Please prove me wrong! I was also planning to run this MB with my 805 until the Conroe pricing comes down, but now I see it may not work. Asus specs say:


Front Side Bus: 1066/800 (no 533!!:eek: )

and


Overclocking Features: SFS (Stepless Frequency Selection): allowing FSB tuning from 200MHz up to 400MHz at 1MHz increment.

It seems pretty clear that this MB doesn't run FSB below 200MHz.

The different bus speeds always confuses the hell out of me, but the D805 runs at 133Mhz FSB. At 200MHz you can sometimes succeed to get 4.0 GHz but needs water cooling. I have not been able to get my 805 above 170Mhz FSB with my Zalman CNPS9500 cooler.

It aslo looks like this MB doesn't have Native DDR2 800 support:mad: .

[m0da]

It aslo looks like this MB doesn't have Native DDR2 800 support:mad: .

whaaaaaaat. on the specs (http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1198&l1=3&l2=11&l3=248) it says "Dual-channel DDR2 800/667/ 533 max 8GB."

why wouldn't it...? :(

[Dumo]

[B][U][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="3"]Not so fast - I'm definitely no expert but it might not work with D805! Please prove me wrong!It worked with 805, at least for me:)

[hukhound]

whaaaaaaat. on the specs (http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1198&l1=3&l2=11&l3=248) it says "Dual-channel DDR2 800/667/ 533 max 8GB."

why wouldn't it...? :(

It's the memory multiplier that's in question. If you're running at 200MHz FSB, you need a multiplier of 4.0 to get "native 800". Again, I'm no expert - Tom's Hardware states:

The various memory multiplier values available in the BIOS vary by motherboard vendor. The 4.0 value isn't always selectable, so buying the wrong motherboard can lead to performance degradation. In most cases, vendors refer to a memory multiplier of 4.0 as "Native DDR2-800."

Compare the Memory specs of this board with the P5WD2-E Premium and the P5WDG2-WS. You will see both of these state Native 800 support. The P5W DH doesn't.

[hukhound]

It worked with 805, at least for me:)

Awesome! What FSB speed are you running and what is your CPU clock speed, i.e. 200MHz and 4.0 GHz?

[phobos]

A bunch of guys in a German forum are running a 805 and Celerons on their P5W-DH 'til Conroe goes retail. I also got a 805 here but I'm still waiting for my board.

[DEVIL_DK]

i have a problem i cant set vcore i only have auto :(

bios is 0065
cpu 6700

any help pleas

[simonmaltby]

there's a friend of mine who just got this mainboard (with a B0), but he cant chancge the vcore, I have no clue why, since he update the bios with the newst one. Does he have to make some mod like in the intel or what? Because he told me that he can see the vcore adjust option, but he can't change it.
Marco

Just had same after a bios flash. only Auto was there in the vcore.
Clear the Cmos using the jumper this will being back the vcore options :)

Can confirm 805 works and very well - at 4Ghz rock stable with silen air cooling and the ambiant air is hot in the UK atm

[fr4nc3sco]

i have a problem i cant set vcore i only have auto :(

bios is 0065
cpu 6700

any help pleas


tests to make a cmos and rebot

[Lestat]

can you guys report in about issues like vcore droop FSB limitations and such you know the usual asus bullcrap.

vcore droop is something i absolutely hate. i need to see if its bad or not.

[hukhound]

Can confirm 805 works and very well - at 4Ghz rock stable with silen air cooling and the ambiant air is hot in the UK atm

Wow, 4Ghz on air !?? What's up with that? Tom's Hardware and CPU Magazine both had to run water cooling to get this chip to that level.

So is it true that you can't set the FSB to lower than 200MHz?

Congrats on your 805's stellar performance:toast: . Give a few more details on your hardware setup (edit: I see you posted your setup in your sig).

[simonmaltby]

So is it true that you can't set the FSB to lower than 200MHz?

Not true at all. goes from 100 to 450 or anywhere inbetween

[hukhound]

Not true at all. goes from 100 to 450 or anywhere inbetween

:D Thanks for clearing that up.

[hukhound]

Simonmaltby,
Have you tried running Prime95 at 4GHz?

[simonmaltby]

Simonmaltby,
Have you tried running Prime95 at 4GHz?

I dont bother with prime. Its a working machine. I run it as my web developemnt workstation / server all day, its running Server 2003, SQL Server 2005, IIS, coldfusion server plus music.

It has run without a glitch for 2 full days at 4ghz of general use.... i would say thats as good as prime.
Just running 32M SuperPi to double check seeing as you ask :)

[Mr.X]

Question: Does this board support Crossfire only? Can a 7950GX2 run on it?
Is ASUS planning on releasing a similar SLI ready Motherboard?

[hukhound]

I dont bother with prime. Its a working machine. I run it as my web developemnt workstation / server all day, its running Server 2003, SQL Server 2005, IIS, coldfusion server plus music.

It has run without a glitch for 2 full days at 4ghz of general use.... i would say thats as good as prime.
Just running 32M SuperPi to double check seeing as you ask :)

Makes sense. I backed my 850 down to 3.4GHz because it's the highest setting that would pass Prime. I just hate buggy systems, so I'm leary to push it further.

Does Super Pi test for processor errors? I thought it was just a speed benchmark.

[cronic]

can you guys report in about issues like vcore droop FSB limitations and such you know the usual asus bullcrap.

vcore droop is something i absolutely hate. i need to see if its bad or not.


OK, I took some measurements of the vcore voltage:

set in bios: 1.6v
AI Booster: 1.56-1.58v idle
dmm idle: 1.585-1.593v
dmm load: 1.559-1.560v

so thats a .026-.033v vcore voltage drop as read via dmm
Much better than past asus intel boards I have had, but not perfect.

[phobos]

i have a problem i cant set vcore i only have auto :(

bios is 0065
cpu 6700

any help pleas

New BIOS is supposed to address that issue:
http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/P5W-DH-0602.rar

[sierra_bound]

If VCore is showing only Auto, try clearing the CMOS. This should fix the problem.

For anyone getting this board, I recommend clearing the CMOS before doing anything else.

[AndreYang]

If VCore is showing only Auto, try clearing the CMOS. This should fix the problem.

For anyone getting this board, I recommend clearing the CMOS before doing anything else.



New Bios already fixed this problem.

[theteamaqua]

yeah which one, and links??

[webwilli]

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/P5W-DH-0602.rar

[theteamaqua]

oh thanx, and should i do afudos or ez flash. i will recieve this board on monday, so ...

[gazzoom]

new review here http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=1&id=1958

"the board consistently performed slightly below the older P5WD2-E Premium in terms of CPU and memory subsystem, but it did come out ahead in graphics and game tests" ...a couple % below P5WD2-E

[m0da]

new review here http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=1&id=1958

"the board consistently performed slightly below the older P5WD2-E Premium in terms of CPU and memory subsystem, but it did come out ahead in graphics and game tests" ...a couple % below P5WD2-E

eh true. but its got one thing that d2 doesn't (at least not yet), c2d support aha. d2's got nothing on the dh

[[XC] DragonOrta]

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/P5W-DH-0602.rar
I'm getting an Error 404: Not Found for this.

[kyosen]

I'm getting an Error 404: Not Found for this.
Alternative link...I've just downloaded and not yet tested it, though:)
http://p5wdh.de/downloads/asus/bios/p5wdh602.zip

[[XC] DragonOrta]

Alternative link...I've just downloaded and not yet tested it, though:)
http://p5wdh.de/downloads/asus/bios/p5wdh602.zip
That's good enough for me. Thanks.

[Haltech]

Dragon, did you get an ES chip?

[[XC] DragonOrta]

Yeah, it's one of the stepping 4, I think. I bought it about 3 or 4 days before AndreYang started selling his stepping 5s.

[Haltech]

I ordered the Asus today.. Ill pickup a retail 6600 when they become avail since its only about 4 weeks away. Lemme know how your rosetta output is please.

[sierra_bound]

New Bios already fixed this problem.
I've used a couple of older BIOS files where this was never an issue. ;) And it only takes about ten seconds to clear the CMOS, even if it were an issue.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

I've used a couple of older BIOS files where this was never an issue. ;) And it only takes about ten seconds to clear the CMOS, even if it were an issue.

I've cleared my CMOS twice tonight,once for about 30 minutes, trying to be able to change Vcore. Shipping BIOS is 0502. I haven't been able to find my floppy drive, so I haven't been able to flash a new one yet. I'm all ready for 602 once I do find my floppy drive though.

[sierra_bound]

Have you tried using Asus Update?

[alpha0ne]

Have you tried using Asus Update?

Hehehehehe I like most ppl forget this option :)

[[XC] DragonOrta]

I don't have a good copy of XP around. I'm on fedore core 5 ATM.

[sierra_bound]

Is the floppy drive showing up in the boot section of the BIOS? If it is, make sure it's first in the boot order. Only other thing I can think of is possibly a bad floppy cable.

[simonmaltby]

I am getting issues using more than 3 sata drives on bioses above 502.

Using 602 windows will not load if using the Jmicron sata plug and using the EZ sata plugs causes a failure at bios level.

Why did asus only put 3 normal sata slots on the Intel controller??? I only need 4 drives running lol.

Lets hope its cos this is not an officialy releaced bios.

[phobos]

Why did asus only put 3 normal sata slots on the Intel controller??? I only need 4 drives running lol.

Because the Silicon Image RAID Controller (EZ-BACKUP) is connected through S-ATA to the ICH7R.

[Mr.X]

[QUOTE=Mr.X]Question: Does this board support Crossfire only? Can a 7950GX2 run on it?
Is ASUS planning on releasing a similar SLI ready Motherboard?[/QUOTΕ]

Anyone?

[Devious]

What kind of temps are you lot getting with your asus. Atm im running @3824 Ghz with 1.46v idle temp is 39Deg and goes upto 70deg with duel prime :(

This seems too high.

Does anyone know what the max vcore is for 24/7 use ?

[phobos]

Question: Does this board support Crossfire only? Can a 7950GX2 run on it?
Is ASUS planning on releasing a similar SLI ready Motherboard?[/QUOTΕ]

Anyone?

A guy in a German forum is running a 7950GX2 on that board. Asus will not release a similar SLI ready board since Intel Chipsets are not SLI certified by NVIDIA. However, it may be possible to run SLI with modded drivers and ASUS will probably release a SLI and Conroe ready board with nForce chipset.

[Metroid]

A guy in a German forum is running a 7950GX2 on that board. Asus will not release a similar SLI ready board since Intel Chipsets are not SLI certified by NVIDIA. However, it may be possible to run SLI with modded drivers and ASUS will probably release a SLI and Conroe ready board with nForce chipset.

Yes is coming one in August from Asus.

* ASUS P5N32-SLi SE - nForce 590 SLi - ATX - available in August.

[Anemone]

I hope its ready to support DDR2 800 standard and then clock up from there. Reasonably possible to hope for that since the 975 isn't default 800 capable but Asus has it working on that, so assuming the same could be done for the 590.

I don't like waiting on it, but the race for which chipset, 975 or 590 is close enough for me, I need to see testing and reasonably final boards before I'll know which direction suits me.

It is a bit worrisome that there are so many 975 and 965 boards out there for Conroe getting tested and almost none from the 590 crowd. I'm sure the engineers are working furiously to change that but that would potentially indicate the first boards could still be a work in progress, with the inherent issues that creates.

hmm

[Metroid]

I hope its ready to support DDR2 800 standard and then clock up from there. Reasonably possible to hope for that since the 975 isn't default 800 capable but Asus has it working on that, so assuming the same could be done for the 590.

I don't like waiting on it, but the race for which chipset, 975 or 590 is close enough for me, I need to see testing and reasonably final boards before I'll know which direction suits me.

It is a bit worrisome that there are so many 975 and 965 boards out there for Conroe getting tested and almost none from the 590 crowd. I'm sure the engineers are working furiously to change that but that would potentially indicate the first boards could still be a work in progress, with the inherent issues that creates.

hmm


For me the disappointment comes from the memory controller with initial tests made by 1 website that I can not remember. It made tests with a 590 reference motherboard and the lack of a good memory controller.:slapass:

I hope the engineers will change or do something to improve the memory controller as it is with with the same AM2 Asus that comes with MCP55PXE Chipset and Intel 590 reference with MCP55P Chipset that means desappointment.:(

[Anemone]

I agree. It would have been really nice if Nvidia had updated the memory controller. Now this is not to say they didn't tweak it some, and Asus may be able to coax it along a bit more too (a la ddr2800 support which is not default Nvidia). If the memory controller stinks we are better off getting a cheapo 965 board to hold over till Nvidia gets to update us, or going 975. But NF4 for Intel was pretty much a bomb, and if they didn't change things for the NF5 that inherently change that performance and stability, no one is going to touch the NF5 that knows what they are doing.

Sad but true...

[graham_h]

whats the latest most effective bios ? I've no ram timings in my 604.