How Overclockable is the E6400?

[jbizzler]

It seems I'm going to have less money that I thought by the Conroe release. I originally wanted an E6600, but might have to get an E6400. Tell me, how much could I realistically OC an E6400 with my CNP9500? And would this OC perform better than my Pentium D 930 at 4GHz?

[alpha_tot]

Id say its still too early to know what kind of OC to expect...the engineering samples seem to keep getting better and better. But whatever the OC, your 4ghz 930 will get slaughtered.

[Tyrou]

mine does 3.35 max screen, 3.27 max pi, on air, at 1.6v, everything is limited by the cpu temperature :D

[sealion]

Expect about 3.2-3.4 on air; anything more is a blessing. And Yes it would crush your 4ghz pentium 4.

[pik-ard v1.1]

is yours an A1 or B0 stepping tyrou? and is it an ES?

[SIOUX]

is yours an A1 or B0 stepping tyrou? and is it an ES?


I would also like to know what rev it is. for sure it a ES when it has 4mb l2 :)

[jbizzler]

Okay, awsome. I'll just hand down my PD930 to my parents when I get a C2D6400.

However, I'm really excited now. My brother, who's old enough to have a job, and isn't as tech savey, wants me to build him an awsome computer. He said "Nothing too much. Just like $2500." He thought mine was that much! He was so suprised it was $1300. I convinced him to wait for Vista on his machine, and he wants a setup like this:

an RD600
a C2D6700 (Let's call them these from now on. I like how it looks)
a "fine cooling soution" he says. He likes my CNPS9500.
any 2GB(2x 1GB) 1066 DDR2 pair!!!
an R600 (SOO EXCITED)
X-Fi Fatal1ty
a 74GB 10K HD!

That'll be around $2500 right? I could use this machine while he's working! All the pieces of my life are coming together! I now have a way to get these nearly-flagship parts! And he says he wants to upgrdae it semi-yearly. So I'll be seeing a second R600 and PhysX soon after that.

[theteamaqua]

maybe u wanna wait for the E6500?? 2.4 GHz but 2MB L2 cache

[farksy]

maybe u wanna wait for the E6500?? 2.4 GHz but 2MB L2 cache
For me, it's either E6400 if on a tight budget or E6600 if you want the 2Mb extra L2.


Id say its still too early to know what kind of OC to expect...the engineering samples seem to keep getting better and better. But whatever the OC, your 4ghz 930 will get slaughtered.

All chips will get slaughtered.

:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

[jbizzler]

Okay. This is my first time using SuperPi. My PD930 @ 4GHz did 1M in 32s. How fast would a C2DE6400 @ 3.2GHz do that? There are few benchmarks of the E6400 out there for me to compare.

[perkam]

Okay. This is my first time using SuperPi. My PD930 @ 4GHz did 1M in 32s. How fast would a C2DE6400 @ 3.2GHz do that? There are few benchmarks of the E6400 out there for me to compare.~15s Superpi 1M.

Perkam

[jbizzler]

Sweet. I know SuperPi doesn't translate directly over to games, but I'm guessing that's like 30% increase in games?

And to clarify, the E6400 is 266*8 right? I could just up it to 400*8, right? That's the max FSB on ASUS's P5Bs.

[pik-ard v1.1]

i dunno if you could *just* up it that far... it may be able to do that with stock voltage, i dont know. but that would probably work out fine, once you figured out what voltage it takes to get it stable at 3.2GHz

[Tyrou]

mine is an early ES, so A1 core, 4MB L2, whatever, it's as fast as my WR Yonah 2600 was, but with 600MHz less :D

[jbizzler]

I told my brother the R600 is expected to be extremely hot. He suggest water cooling himself. I don't know much about watercooling, but noticed the Coolermsater Tai-Chi has a full kit, at least for the CPU. I was wondering, with that, what would I need to cool the R600 with it? I know you have to get a VGA block, but then do you just get one more pipe? Does it just go

---Cooler---CPU---VGA---Cooler---

:confused:

[couppi]

You can mount an old cpu air cooler on it. It might block a pci slot, but would do a great job of cooling.

[Wiggy McShades]

Sweet. I know SuperPi doesn't translate directly over to games, but I'm guessing that's like 30% increase in games?

And to clarify, the E6400 is 266*8 right? I could just up it to 400*8, right? That's the max FSB on ASUS's P5Bs.


if it helps any i have an E6300 that does 2.8ghz with no increase in vcore on an gigabyte something pro heatsink (its like an xp90) and i ony have to raise the voltage on the northbridge up one notch on a revision 304 badaxe. right now im just limmited by no vcore options yet so you should be able to reach mid 3ghz range with vcore and a higher than 7 multi.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

No vCore options? Have you had a look at FCG's Bad Axe mod thread?


I told my brother the R600 is expected to be extremely hot. He suggest water cooling himself. I don't know much about watercooling, but noticed the Coolermsater Tai-Chi has a full kit, at least for the CPU. I was wondering, with that, what would I need to cool the R600 with it? I know you have to get a VGA block, but then do you just get one more pipe? Does it just go

---Cooler---CPU---VGA---Cooler---

:confused:
I'd suggest you take a little stroll over to the Liquid Cooling section and read some of the stickies. Something like the tai-chi would probably not be too effective on the R600, especially is he plans on getting 2 of them. Planning out a true water cooling loop would be a much better idea.

[andyisc00l]

I told my brother the R600 is expected to be extremely hot. He suggest water cooling himself. I don't know much about watercooling, but noticed the Coolermsater Tai-Chi has a full kit, at least for the CPU. I was wondering, with that, what would I need to cool the R600 with it? I know you have to get a VGA block, but then do you just get one more pipe? Does it just go

---Cooler---CPU---VGA---Cooler---

:confused:

Tai-chi from thermaltake is a joke..not only is it a subpar case it costs over $350 , and the water kit that comes with the over $400 one is just OK. From the sounds of your brother not being up to date on current technology, he's not gonna need all this stuff. e6700, X-Fi fatality, R600, 74gb 10k, and 1066 ram isn't worth it..thinking you could be spending over 700 bucks less on a system that would be still really fast is somethin to consider, not to mention similiar in speeds. Just cuz someone figures they'd spend 2500 doesn't mean they should. My 2 cents, I know everyone forgets about other peoples pockets when they get to build a pc:-p

[dnottis]

Sweet. I know SuperPi doesn't translate directly over to games, but I'm guessing that's like 30% increase in games

Maybe at 640 x 480 - anything 1280 x 1024 6xaa/16xaf and above won't see more than a few FPS increase as the GPU becomes the bottleneck. I wish it were 30% increase in games, only games that are CPU limited or low res will see any impact and I'm guessing while it will be faster for gaming it's not going to be a huge difference.

[Wiggy McShades]

No vCore options? Have you had a look at FCG's Bad Axe mod thread?


I'd suggest you take a little stroll over to the Liquid Cooling section and read some of the stickies. Something like the tai-chi would probably not be too effective on the R600, especially is he plans on getting 2 of them. Planning out a true water cooling loop would be a much better idea.



ya i saw it i just have to get a conductive ink pen :p:

[jbizzler]

I'm going to be running my games at 1680x1050. Are you telling me a Core 2 Duo isn't a worthwile upgrade then? Or just the E6400? I didn't know the E6400 only had 2MB L2, so I'll manage to cough up $100 more for the E6600.

[jbizzler]

If I managed to get an X1900 Crossfire Edition on eBay for the same price as an E6600, would it help in performance more? I imagine so because it's completely an add-on and not a replacement.