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Unrealcpu
06-06-2006, 03:33 AM
Directly outside of Intel’s lair in Hall 4 here at Computex, you will find an entire wall packed with new motherboards, many supporting the upcoming Intel Core 2 Duo processor. We managed a few moments to snap pictures of our favorites, from ABIT, ASUS, ECS, EPoX, Foxconn, Gigabyte, Intel, and MSI

Intel officially introduced the Intel® P965 Express Chipset, formerly code-named "Broadwater," and said future versions, including one with graphics built in, will ship over the next two months. Combined, the Intel Core 2 Duo processor and Intel P965 Express Chipset will enable breakthrough PC performance, greater power efficiency, quieter systems and theatre-like sound quality, among other benefits.




To significantly increase PC performance, the chipset incorporates Intel® Fast Memory Access, an updated Memory Controller Hub backbone architecture that optimizes the system's memory bandwidth. It also supports DDR2 or double-data rate computer memory with data transfer speeds up to 800 MHz, enabling speedy access to files and a highly responsive PC. Chandrasekher also discussed a future integrated graphics chipset, called the G965 Express Chipset. This product will include a new feature called Intel® Clear Video Technology, which enhances high-definition video playback including those from personal video recorders and digital camcorders for sharper image viewing quality. All of the 965 Express chipsets enable users to add a second external drive to a PC for extra data protection, Intel® High Definition Audio for theater-like sound quality and Intel® Quiet System Technology to reduce system noise and heat for a much quieter, yet higher-performing PC.



These chipsets will form the basis of systems supporting the Intel® Viiv™ Technology and Intel vPRO™ Technology platforms that will be increasingly powered by Intel Core 2 Duo processors. Chandrasekher also disclosed that Intel will introduce the Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme processor at speeds of 2.93 Megahertz in July, and a faster 3.2 megahertz version later in the year.


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hicookie
06-06-2006, 03:39 AM
hehehe, looking at "gigabyte" 12phase, lol

Vric
06-06-2006, 04:06 AM
none of them have space arount the socket for something a bit "bigger"...

Unrealcpu
06-06-2006, 04:08 AM
:toast:


I dont like how the caps are so close to the socket on the Asus. Not goot for phase?

Schlotkins
06-06-2006, 04:09 AM
Is the 965 chipset shipping already? I'm just trying to figure out when to expect these boards in retail. I have some funds that I have to spend by the 30th and I was hoping to get a conroe compatible motherboard.

Vric
06-06-2006, 04:10 AM
Is the 965 chipset shipping already? I'm just trying to figure out when to expect these boards in retail. I have some funds that I have to spend by the 30th and I was hoping to get a conroe compatible motherboard.
They will be available this month, don't worry.

Fixxxer
06-06-2006, 04:24 AM
Only i965 boards? What about RD600 and i975x boards? :D

LUCI5R
06-06-2006, 04:37 AM
Ave,

Asus posted new information on the P5B Deluxe today
Asus P5B (http://usa.asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=3395)

ost_2005
06-06-2006, 04:39 AM
They will be available this month, don't worry.
I know this month but can you specific a bit?

Middle month or end Month?

ost_2005
06-06-2006, 04:41 AM
By the way , when can We see the review of those MBs?

ost_2005
06-06-2006, 04:43 AM
Only i965 boards? What about RD600 and i975x boards? :D
RD600 havent be released yet.

i975x is everywhere.

Fixxxer
06-06-2006, 04:49 AM
RD600 havent be released yet.

i975x is everywhere.

Yes, I know all that.

I just want pics of mobos w/ i975x supporting Core2Duo @ Computex.

Skyline GT-R
06-06-2006, 05:05 AM
Fixxxer search for Asus P5W DH Deluxe, DFI 975X Infinity or Asus P5WD2 WS Professional ;) Those are 975X boards supporting Core 2 Duo at Computex ;)

Plaicd
06-06-2006, 05:06 AM
Intel has the 965 chipset on their site now and new .inf downloads to support it.
"Added device IDs, INFs and signature files for Intel® P965 Express Chipset"
Yay!

CompGeek
06-06-2006, 05:08 AM
How soon "in the next month" will we see these? Any news on OC ablilty?

qdemn7
06-06-2006, 05:12 AM
snip It takes a lot of balls to blatantly rip-off another 'sites article ( [H]ardOCP ) WITHOUT giving them credit, PLUS hotlink directly to their images. :mad: :soap:

davefr
06-06-2006, 05:50 AM
Their website shows a heat pipe cooling arrangement but this image doesn't.

I'm curious if they abandoned it at the last minute??

3NZ0
06-06-2006, 05:54 AM
It takes a lot of balls to blatantly rip-off another 'sites article ( [H]ardOCP ) WITHOUT giving them credit, PLUS hotlink directly to their images. :mad: :soap:

:nono: :slapass: :slap: :stick:

just noticed as well!

XS Janus
06-06-2006, 06:20 AM
I see all the new boards reall do have caps very close to the socket . And just when i was about to design my own first waterblock.:mad:

Maybe they are low profiled, but fat chanse of that:(
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qdemn7
06-06-2006, 06:27 AM
I see all the new boards reall do have caps very close to the socket . And just when i was about to design my own first waterblock.:mad:

Maybe they are low profiled, but fat chanse of that:(Yeah, I don't like that at all. At least they're solid caps, not the liquid ones, so they won't leak. :(

Torin
06-06-2006, 07:01 AM
Caps don't seem to be any closer than the 975X boards..

What makes me wonder is why some boards have passive cooling on the power components, and some don't.

For instance, compare the ABIT board to the ECS/MSI/FOXCONN board.

Is the power draw on these boards just significantly lower than the 975X boards, thus they don't need the heatsinks?

Pandamonia
06-06-2006, 07:33 AM
after reading i think the asus will be the one to get.

ethernal
06-06-2006, 07:43 AM
Chandrasekher also disclosed that Intel will introduce the Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme processor at speeds of 2.93 Megahertz in July, and a faster 3.2 megahertz version later in the year.

Hrm, I guess Intel won't be reclaiming the performance crown from AMD afterall. :rolleyes:

DaWaN
06-06-2006, 07:43 AM
The gigabyte looks crazy !! I think they wanted to be sure it didn't have Vdrop :p:

Torin
06-06-2006, 07:59 AM
Hrm, I guess Intel won't be reclaiming the performance crown from AMD afterall. :rolleyes:
Intel already reclaimed the performance crown with it's ES E6600 processor, not to mention the X6800. They don't need the 3.2Mhz part to let Conroe own the FX-62.

dqniel
06-06-2006, 08:29 AM
Hrm, I guess Intel won't be reclaiming the performance crown from AMD afterall. :rolleyes:

Sarcasm? 2.4ghz is enough, much less 2.9+

ethernal
06-06-2006, 08:38 AM
Sarcasm? 2.4ghz is enough, much less 2.9+


Maybe this will help:

Chandrasekher also disclosed that Intel will introduce the Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme processor at speeds of 2.93 Megahertz in July, and a faster 3.2 megahertz version later in the year.

(also love the capitlization of a SI unit prefix.. quality editing, to say the least ;))

FischOderAal
06-06-2006, 08:39 AM
The gigabyte looks crazy !! I think they wanted to be sure it didn't have Vdrop :p:

the vdrop isn't just a problem of the boards. asus could produce Mobos without vDrop without any problems, but the Drop is Intel Spec since Northwood... if Silicon is under load it just doesn't need that much Volt any more to keep its status (read a articel about this, pretty sure I retold it correctly)

Torin
06-06-2006, 08:50 AM
Power draw for the NB and SB on the P965 seems to be up from the 975X.

According to the Inq (I know, I know), it's up 6.3W total, 5.5W of that coming from the NB. I'd assume this is from the fact that it can officially handle 800Mhz memory. Power draw aside, the P965 boards might be able to pull significantly higher performance numbers if are able to push beyond the 450Mhz wall present on the 975X boards.

madgamer
06-06-2006, 12:02 PM
that abit board (the 1st one pictured) has one of the strangest layouts. look at the sata headers between the pci and pci-express slots

Torin
06-06-2006, 12:20 PM
LOL, that ABIT board is cracked out. It's got SATA slots put randomly around the board, the IDE channel in the middle of the PCI slots, and what's with the random 12V molex connector on the ABIT, MSI and ECS boards?

WildEye
06-06-2006, 12:23 PM
that abit board (the 1st one pictured) has one of the strangest layouts. look at the sata headers between the pci and pci-express slots

Looks like they just took some components, tossed them up in the air and fitted them where they landed... I mean, how do you manage to fit a IDE flat ribbon cable in the middle of the board, between PCI and PCIe slots??? :slap: :stick:

majestik
06-06-2006, 12:29 PM
No digital PWM?
Awwww...

Helmore
06-06-2006, 01:00 PM
Maybe DFI might do that, I hope....

Jagz64
06-06-2006, 01:17 PM
lets just all hope "fingers crossed" that some of these mobo'hoez LOL
will be less the £100 or £80 smacks.

zillaoc
06-06-2006, 01:26 PM
Ave,

Asus posted new information on the P5B Deluxe today
Asus P5B (http://usa.asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=3395)


i like the Q-Connector on that board... as i get older reading those little buggers is a b i tch lol...

Asus is where ill be going i think

GoldenTiger
06-06-2006, 01:34 PM
Will the mATX boards be coming out at the same time as the normal ones? I need mATX! :D

NapalmV5
06-06-2006, 01:35 PM
i just hope there are better/more mobos than those.. i need 4-5 x16 pci-express slots damit! :D

Extera
06-06-2006, 02:16 PM
this pic is different but same mobo?
http://www.hardware.info/images/artikelen/000198-23.jpg

looks realy interesting. high quality caps, 12 phase power ect.

Durzel
06-06-2006, 02:18 PM
My money is on the Asus too I think, they look to be the real innovators with the P5B Deluxe.

Is the 965 chipset any worse than 975 then? What's the difference? Are none of these boards Crossfire compatible or something?

-Sweeper_
06-06-2006, 02:23 PM
Crossfire + i975X/RD600 = All :banana:

Ps: Nice pics. :toast:

:woot:

qdemn7
06-06-2006, 02:36 PM
lets just all hope "fingers crossed" that some of these mobo'hoez LOL
will be less the £100 or £80 smacks.Don't count on it. I'm afraid these things are going to go for premium prices. At least for the first few months.

[XC] riptide
06-06-2006, 03:12 PM
Maybe this will help:

Chandrasekher also disclosed that Intel will introduce the Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme processor at speeds of 2.93 Megahertz in July, and a faster 3.2 megahertz version later in the year.

(also love the capitlization of a SI unit prefix.. quality editing, to say the least ;))
Gigahertz even.... ??:rolleyes:

vanovich
06-06-2006, 03:12 PM
My money is on the Asus too I think, they look to be the real innovators with the P5B Deluxe.

Is the 965 chipset any worse than 975 then? What's the difference? Are none of these boards Crossfire compatible or something?
dont know about asus ,on this one .weve not seen any asus boards reaching over 380 fsb . or im i missing something? rd600 looks nice to me ,shame theirs no room around the socket for ls or mach II though .

lutjens
06-06-2006, 05:26 PM
I really like the Asus board with the fully-fledged PCI-X slots...the P5WDG2-WS Pro. That thing gives me warm fuzzies...:D

cronic
06-06-2006, 05:38 PM
I really like the Asus board with the fully-fledged PCI-X slots...the P5WDG2-WS Pro. That thing gives me warm fuzzies...:D

agreed, with what has been seen so far that is the best for me. However I am very interested in the ati 600 chipset.

Vric
06-06-2006, 06:03 PM
Don't count on it. I'm afraid these things are going to go for premium prices. At least for the first few months.
Don't drama everything. I have never seen a premium price because a chipset was new.

Sure it might be $20-$40 higher, but hey... what is $40 in a $2000 ring ?

I' sure there will be sub $120 board at launch.

qdemn7
06-06-2006, 06:22 PM
Don't drama everything. I have never seen a premium price because a chipset was new.

Sure it might be $20-$40 higher, but hey... what is $40 in a $2000 ring ?

I' sure there will be sub $120 board at launch.I have. When the A8N32X-SLI came out back in November the boards commanded a premium price. I know I paid $250 + tax for my board.

Now the fact these aren't the highest end boards doesn't mean they will be $250, but I bet many will be in the $175-$200 range. If they're not, well great. The price won't deter those who have to have the latest and best.

vintage_guitar
06-06-2006, 06:25 PM
I just can't get why they would ever charge more for 965 than 975..when 975 is supposedly the "enthusiast" board. If they do, I'll just get the 975 =/ :confused:

Vric
06-06-2006, 06:59 PM
I just can't get why they would ever charge more for 965 than 975..when 975 is supposedly the "enthusiast" board. If they do, I'll just get the 975 =/ :confused:

True.. Most 975X board are already released (waiting new revision) so If there is a shortage of P965 that increase the price, just get a good "old" 975X....

Now the real problem might be the Core 2 Duo CPU itself. This might be hard to find after Dell eat everything available..

If I can't fins a Core 2 CPU, I might upgrade anyway and get a 805 while waiting.. by this time, the 805 will be sub $100..

Jagz64
06-06-2006, 11:27 PM
The ATi RD600 mobo will cost $150 U.S and £80 Smacks U.K. So it looks like
i got my eye's set on that mobo.

Can't wait for the E6300 & ATi RD600 mobo :)

Johnny Bravo
06-07-2006, 05:33 AM
The ATi RD600 mobo will cost $150 U.S and £80 Smacks U.K. So it looks like
i got my eye's set on that mobo.

Can't wait for the E6300 & ATi RD600 mobo :)


Interesting, can you provide backing for these figures?

Stelios
06-07-2006, 07:45 AM
975x comes with ICH7R , while 965 with ICH8R .
What are the differences between 7R & 8R ???? more sata ports as i saw and what else ???

Vric
06-07-2006, 07:56 AM
http://www.matbe.com/images/biblio/computex_2006/000000040302.jpg

Asus P5N32-SLI SE, Nforce 5 Intel edition..

Damn heatpipe...

The Stilt
06-07-2006, 08:07 AM
DFI Infinity 975X/G doesn´t impress me much :rolleyes:
http://img2.zol.com.cn/product/4/277/ceS5spITNaj6.jpg

Asus P5W DH Deluxe will probably be the choice of a overclocker (until LanParty "Zeus" boards are available) ;)

P5W DH Deluxe should hit the shelves by end of the month.

FischOderAal
06-07-2006, 08:43 AM
DFI Infinity 975X/G doesn´t impress me much :rolleyes:
[IMG]http://img2.zol.com.cn/product/4/277/ceS5spITNaj6.jpg[./IMG]

Asus P5W DH Deluxe will probably be the choice of a overclocker (until LanParty "Zeus" boards are available) ;)

P5W DH Deluxe should hit the shelves by end of the month.

everybody tell different stories... someone in a german forum just phoned Asus and they said they will hit the shelves at the mid of July...

onewingedangel
06-07-2006, 08:57 AM
Are there any pricesfor the conroe compatable boards yet? prices on par with current 945/975 boards or higher?

The Stilt
06-07-2006, 08:57 AM
everybody tell different stories... someone in a german forum just phoned Asus and they said they will hit the shelves at the mid of July...

Well, few of the largest distributors in Germany give 26.6.2006 ETA for this board ;)

FischOderAal
06-07-2006, 09:05 AM
Well, few of the largest distributors in Germany give 26.6.2006 ETA for this board ;)

yes, I know ^^ hope they are right :D price is very good for such a Mobo (~200€, nearly the same as the Bad Axe).
we've seen often enough that the persons who are in charge to answer the questions don't know everything...

@onewingedangel: prices for 975X will remain the same, but the 965 is about the same price.

sierra_bound
06-07-2006, 10:36 AM
I wish these motherboard makers didn't put so many caps near the socket. I think some users may encounter clearance problems, depending on the type of cooling they're planning to use.

qdemn7
06-07-2006, 10:50 AM
DFI Infinity 975X/G doesn´t impress me much :rolleyes:
I agree, that is one UGLY board.

Shpoon
06-07-2006, 11:04 AM
Ewwww, screw the DFI then, Asus until a LP comes out :/

JoeBar
06-07-2006, 11:54 AM
Asus all the way! :up:

Unrealcpu
06-07-2006, 09:31 PM
Asus all the way! :up:


I am going for Asus all the way too :)

AgonxOC
06-07-2006, 09:37 PM
Asus... or Giga-Byte if they make a good Ocing mobo like their 8KNXP....


Alex

stoner
06-08-2006, 01:04 AM
www.vr-zone.com



AW9D

http://resources.vr-zone.com/computex06/day1/hard/abit/IMG_0589.jpg
http://resources.vr-zone.com/computex06/day1/hard/abit/IMG_0590.jpg

Fatal1ty

http://resources.vr-zone.com/computex06/day1/hard/abit/IMG_0601.jpg
http://resources.vr-zone.com/computex06/day1/hard/abit/IMG_0602.jpg

overclocker.at
06-08-2006, 01:25 AM
AW9D with only 4 SATA :stick:

AB9 Pro -> 10 SATA :confused:


*edit*
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/9219/aw9d2zm.th.gif (http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aw9d2zm.gif)

look @ red circle ;)

Stelios
06-08-2006, 02:06 AM
No Abit for me ... I need 6 Sata & 4 ATA and 2 PCI slots at least .

What was that thing about DFI 975X "Zeus" that Stilt wrote ????

R101
06-08-2006, 02:18 AM
Just hope Intel don't put some kind of FSB limit (via dividers or pcie lock or whatever) on 965 chipset..

Hazzan
06-08-2006, 02:24 AM
www.vr-zone.com



AW9D

http://resources.vr-zone.com/computex06/day1/hard/abit/IMG_0589.jpg
http://resources.vr-zone.com/computex06/day1/hard/abit/IMG_0590.jpg

Fatal1ty

http://resources.vr-zone.com/computex06/day1/hard/abit/IMG_0601.jpg
http://resources.vr-zone.com/computex06/day1/hard/abit/IMG_0602.jpg



Nice !! Abit still a life !!!

FischOderAal
06-08-2006, 02:29 AM
AW9D with only 4 SATA :stick:

AB9 Pro -> 10 SATA :confused:


*edit*
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/9219/aw9d2zm.th.gif (http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aw9d2zm.gif)

look @ red circle ;)

what's up with the red circles?

Stelios
06-08-2006, 02:41 AM
FischOderAal > Power connector or Firewire/USB ???

The Stilt
06-08-2006, 02:58 AM
No Abit for me ... I need 6 Sata & 4 ATA and 2 PCI slots at least .

What was that thing about DFI 975X "Zeus" that Stilt wrote ????

"Zeus" has nothing to do with 975X.
It is ATI RD600.

Johnny Bravo
06-08-2006, 03:04 AM
"Zeus" has nothing to do with 975X.
It is ATI RD600.


This is what I'm interested in, seems to have more futureproofing, better OC capabilities and features than the 975x. Time will tell on this front!

overclocker.at
06-08-2006, 03:19 AM
what's up with the red circles?looks like sata holder place for AW9D-MAX

*edit*
comparison

ABIT AW8D SATA position:
http://www.geizhals.at/img/pix/203017.jpg

(sry for my bad english)

Jagz64
06-08-2006, 03:22 AM
The link is below geeza for the ATi RD600 @ £80 smacks

Source: Link (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2645)

Will cost £80 then we have [VAT 17.5% = VAT Needs a :slapass: + Delivery lolz


"ATI RD600 motherboards are expected to retail for approximately $150 according to internal documents".

FischOderAal
06-08-2006, 03:22 AM
looks like sata holder place...

*edit*
comparison:

http://www.geizhals.at/img/pix/203017.jpg

ah, you mean Silkscreens for SATA-Connectors?

yeah, Geizhals roxXx ^^

Jagz64
06-08-2006, 03:32 AM
Conroe Mobo's 4 Sale

Moved: Link (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1501873#post1501873)

overclocker.at
06-08-2006, 03:37 AM
in german: "bereits vorbereitete lötstellen oder lötpunkte für weitere SATA anschlüsse"

i think its for the AW9D-MAX version...

here you can recognize it better:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/700/img06017mu.th.gif (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img06017mu.gif)

qdemn7
06-08-2006, 04:24 AM
ATI RD600 motherboards are expected to retail for approximately $150 according to internal documents".My gawd. :eek: That's incredible.

LUCI5R
06-08-2006, 04:43 AM
I'm lovin' the ASUS & Gigabyte Board.... would have loved the ABit Board as well, but 4 SATA's -> NO!! Only thing is, does any of these ASUS/Gigabyte/ATI motherboards support Crossfire? That's my biggest concern right now.

FischOderAal
06-08-2006, 05:42 AM
I'm lovin' the ASUS & Gigabyte Board.... would have loved the ABit Board as well, but 4 SATA's -> NO!! Only thing is, does any of these ASUS/Gigabyte/ATI motherboards support Crossfire? That's my biggest concern right now.

every 975X supports Crossfire. Atis new Chipset RD600 does as well. the 965 has 2 * x16, but one is only 4x mechanically, so no CF on 965.

overclocker.at
06-08-2006, 06:20 AM
sry for my abit spam... (i'm a abit fan :D)

but i have found a new image with much better quality:

http://img429.imageshack.us/img429/4488/0000000405124mv.th.gif (http://img429.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0000000405124mv.gif)

it is definite prepare for AW9D-MAX Version...

but I don't understand why the Fatal1ty has only 4 SATA :confused:

davefr
06-08-2006, 06:26 AM
http://www.matbe.com/images/biblio/computex_2006/000000040538.jpg

ABIT AB9 Pro Chipset 965

Terrible location for an IDE connector!!

FischOderAal
06-08-2006, 06:36 AM
Terrible location for an IDE connector!!

Abit :rolleyes: think they would have won prices for worst PCB-Layout...

ost_2005
06-08-2006, 06:44 AM
Abit :rolleyes: think they would have won prices for worst PCB-Layout...
I agree with you.
So bad layout.

LUCI5R
06-08-2006, 07:17 AM
every 975X supports Crossfire. Atis new Chipset RD600 does as well. the 965 has 2 * x16, but one is only 4x mechanically, so no CF on 965.

Ave,

I guess i need to look at 975X Boards then... Crossfire is a requirement for me. I'll look at ATI Boards as well, you said they support Crossfire as well.

Thanks,
Mickey

XS Janus
06-08-2006, 08:06 AM
I'll take "THE FATAL1TY" because it's got NO usefull slots.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :slap:
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JoeBar
06-08-2006, 09:04 AM
Abit :rolleyes: think they would have won prices for worst PCB-Layout...
I think it's one of the worst mobo layouts i've ever seen... :p:

NicoOCZ
06-08-2006, 09:30 AM
sry for my abit spam... (i'm a abit fan :D)

but i have found a new image with much better quality:

http://img429.imageshack.us/img429/4488/0000000405124mv.th.gif (http://img429.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0000000405124mv.gif)

it is definite prepare for AW9D-MAX Version...

but I don't understand why the Fatal1ty has only 4 SATA :confused:

I like the red design. However, I don't feel like supporting Mr. Pro Gamer. Heatpipe cooling with 2 (probably) noisy 40mm fans. No thanks.

I'll wait for Oskar's next presents to mankind ;)

Shpoon
06-08-2006, 11:42 AM
Ouch, with the comments I took a closer look at those boards, you guys are right, so much for neat looking cases when your Optical drive cables reach across the Mobo :/

qdemn7
06-08-2006, 11:49 AM
From Bit Tech (http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/06/08/core_2_duo_launch/)

Intel's eagerly anticipcated Conroe processor may not launch until September if the talk of the town proves to be true. We have heard many suggestions about when Intel will launch its Core 2 Duo processors, but none of the suggested dates seemed to make sense to us. The only time frame that has been officially confirmed by Intel is when it expects to ship to its OEM customers. This is expected to happen in July, but the date is not set in stone. At the same time, the company stated that it wanted to make sure its customers had ample time to build high quality machines in readiness for launch. This seems to back up what we've heard on the show floor. If Intel was to ship its products to system integrators at the end of July, it would give them over a month to make sure that they were happy with, and ready to ship, Core 2 Duo-based systems as soon as Intel waves the green flag. July also seems too soon for other chipset providers, too. This is because - apart from the reference designs - we have not seen a single motherboard design based on either ATI's RD600 / SB600 combination, or NVIDIA's nForce 590 SLI Intel Edition.

NicoOCZ
06-08-2006, 12:03 PM
This is because - apart from the reference designs - we have not seen a single motherboard design based on either ATI's RD600 / SB600 combination, or NVIDIA's nForce 590 SLI Intel Edition.


Eh? Intel is going to hold Conroe back from retail market because competitors don't have their boards ready? Poor Intel would have to sell Conroe while only boards with their own chipsets support it?

Did I get smth wrong?

CPLB
06-08-2006, 01:05 PM
That Gigabyte board looks great. I know there is not much space around the socket, but 12 phase power and solid caps is a nice feature!

overclocker.at
06-09-2006, 12:08 AM
my dreams come true :slobber:

AW9D-MAX:

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/9562/i1558863gt4bp.th.jpg (http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=i1558863gt4bp.jpg)

definitely my board :woot:

Extera
06-09-2006, 12:41 AM
OMG, that board is looking so damn good.
Only the bios battery seems a bit mislocated when useing CF.

More and more board are showing up (duh) and the choice is geting harder and harder. Lets show some reviews now!

V I P E R
06-09-2006, 12:48 AM
my dreams come true :slobber:

AW9D-MAX:

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/9562/i1558863gt4bp.th.jpg (http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=i1558863gt4bp.jpg)

definitely my board :woot:

Only one PCI slot ... no thanks :nono: :nono: :nono:

Durzel
06-09-2006, 12:50 AM
OMG, that board is looking so damn good.
Only the bios battery seems a bit mislocated when useing CF.

More and more board are showing up (duh) and the choice is geting harder and harder. Lets show some reviews now!1 PCI socket though, and it's unuseable in Crossfire.

I really don't understand why manufacturers have only 1 PCI slot on these boards, and then cripple it by putting it right next to the 2nd PCI-X slot...

I'm still using a PCI soundcard, and I imagine a lot of people are still using X-Fis, etc... so why do they do it?

Skyline GT-R
06-09-2006, 12:54 AM
The Stilt, you say that the Asus P5W DH Deluxe will be the overclockers board, but how about the new P5WD2-E Premium, the new revision with Core 2 Duo support and an 8 phase power :) It's in this (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=102246) thread :) AndreYang posted it :)

FischOderAal
06-09-2006, 12:59 AM
Ave,

I guess i need to look at 975X Boards then... Crossfire is a requirement for me. I'll look at ATI Boards as well, you said they support Crossfire as well.

Thanks,
Mickey

yeah, for sure ;) why should Ati not support their own Multi-GPU technology? :D they got 48 (?) PCIe Lanes in their RD600 and they want to introduce the third x16 Slot on their Mobos (Crossfire + one for Ati Physics)

stoner
06-09-2006, 01:02 AM
i don't understand why they put a sata connector in this place
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/6417/sata2is.gif

FischOderAal
06-09-2006, 01:10 AM
i don't understand why they put a sata connector in this place
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/6417/sata2is.gif

you will never understand Abit :rolleyes:

they like to put the Floppy connectors in terrible places, too.

Extera
06-09-2006, 01:14 AM
allright, thanks for reminding me of some more lay-out mistake's
to make that all up, the board MUST be one hell of a overclocker.

still going for an asus a this point.
well, there is enough time to wait for some reviews as i'm waiting for the retail release.

overclocker.at
06-09-2006, 01:19 AM
i don't understand why they put a sata connector in this place
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/6417/sata2is.gifbecause the e-sata ;)

stoner
06-09-2006, 01:29 AM
i read :
1 e-SATA, 7 SATA ....
but i see only 7 connectors

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2513/abitaw9dmaxsata1lr.gif

FischOderAal
06-09-2006, 01:29 AM
because the e-sata ;)

the eSATA should be at the I/O. or do you have to connect this one with another port (like on ASrock)? or is this a shared Port?


i read :
1 e-SATA, 7 SATA ....
but i see only 7 connectors

[IMG]http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2513/abitaw9dmaxsata1lr.gif[./IMG]

eSATA is ALLWAYS at the Input/Output Panel!

€:

like here (Asus P5B Dlx):
http://www.asus.com/999/images/products/1179/p5b-d_back.jpg
the one under the Firewire is the eSATA

overclocker.at
06-09-2006, 01:52 AM
@ stoner

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2972/i1558863gt1sg.th.gif (http://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=i1558863gt1sg.gif)

The Stilt
06-09-2006, 06:58 AM
The Stilt, you say that the Asus P5W DH Deluxe will be the overclockers board, but how about the new P5WD2-E Premium, the new revision with Core 2 Duo support and an 8 phase power :) It's in this (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=102246) thread :) AndreYang posted it :)

At that moment I hadn´t seen the new revision of P5WD2-E.
The new revision have much more space between the x16 pci-e slots.
Both P5W DH & P5WD2-E 1.03G should be excellent for little Conroe tweaking ;)

Unrealcpu
06-10-2006, 02:55 AM
This board looks like its going to be a killer. Look at all the sata ports :D

Hopefully Asus will make one for the conroe 2 dup chips
http://www.hispazone.com/imagenes/noticias/1956-2.jpg

FischOderAal
06-10-2006, 02:58 AM
This board looks like its going to be a killer. Look at all the sata ports :D

http://www.hispazone.com/imagenes/noticias/1956-2.jpg

*cough* AM2 *cough*

well, 6 SATA is awful normal for High-End Mainboards... all Intel Asus Boards got 8 * SATA2...

and the layout :rolleyes: no PCIe with Dual VGA? that sucks...

Durzel
06-10-2006, 03:12 AM
I don't get why you guys need so many SATA ports to be honest. I've got 2 Raptors and a 300GB drive for downloads, and that's all I've ever needed. :)

overclocker.at
06-10-2006, 03:27 AM
I don't get why you guys need so many SATA ports...
2x Raptor 73,4GB @ Raid 0
2x Barracuda 500GB @ Raid 1
1x Samsung DVD-Writer (sata)

i need only 5 ports, so 6 would be nice :)

zaracattle
06-10-2006, 04:52 AM
sorry,I have a question,I had a mobo that is old p5wd2-e revision,so I can't use conroe???
I ask myself that whether I can mod to this mobo to use conroe??

FischOderAal
06-10-2006, 05:03 AM
sorry,I have a question,I had a mobo that is old p5wd2-e revision,so I can't use conroe???
I ask myself that whether I can mod to this mobo to use conroe??

welcome :wave:

actually older board revisions don't support Conroe :(

there <might> be a mod soon, but I doubt it ;) the Bad Axe is moddable (oO), because Intel only made very small changes.

k0nsl
06-10-2006, 06:15 AM
I like the cleanliness around the CPU socket and I wish Conroe-boards would employ the same design...but most of the boards I have seen are very crowded around the CPU socket.

-k0nsl


This board looks like its going to be a killer. Look at all the sata ports :D

Hopefully Asus will make one for the conroe 2 dup chips
http://www.hispazone.com/imagenes/noticias/1956-2.jpg

FunkyRider
06-11-2006, 07:46 AM
775 boards would never be lied out like AM2's cuz AM2 socket goes to the DDR-2 sockets, but 775 socket goes to the MCH, then to the DDR-2...

Placing 775 like AM2 will almost destory the DDR-2 signal paths

syne_24
06-11-2006, 10:16 AM
http://www.matbe.com/images/biblio/computex_2006/000000040302.jpg

Asus P5N32-SLI SE, Nforce 5 Intel edition..

Damn heatpipe...

That's a nice board for Conroe if they would fine tune it a bit. It needs a PCI-X added like the P5WDG2-WS. Take out one of the PCIx1 to make room and make the other PCIx8. The heatpipe routing needs to go, that's ugly like that. Is Asus planning to make a P5WDG2-WS version for SLI?

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/syne_24/00456.jpg

Dr.Love
06-11-2006, 10:30 AM
i'm in at price tag -->145$ :)

AzraelDarkangel
06-11-2006, 03:40 PM
I think Asus is going overkill with all the heatpipes, seems like more for looks than functionality.

qdemn7
06-11-2006, 04:21 PM
I think Asus is going overkill with all the heatpipes, seems like more for looks than functionality.Agreed. The RD600 / X3200 CF looks better all the time.

Hassan
06-11-2006, 05:19 PM
Did you guys see this... I mean this is the SLI board, but look at some of the features ;)

Fixxxer
06-11-2006, 05:26 PM
Looks like the nFORCE chipset will be hot, as usual... even more than i975x. Seems like the RD600 chipset will be the freshest one.

sora3
06-11-2006, 07:16 PM
Well, I'm waiting to see what the RD600 will be. But then again, the INtel board is tempting to get now...

Anjelous
06-11-2006, 08:25 PM
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2972/i1558863gt1sg.th.gif (http://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=i1558863gt1sg.gif)

I should have my hands on that board in a week or so here, i'll throw my conroe XE 2.93Ghz in there and post some results for you guys.

vapb400
06-11-2006, 08:49 PM
I should have my hands on that board in a week or so here, i'll throw my conroe XE 2.93Ghz in there and post some results for you guys.
:woot: I am looking forward to that very much.

Unrealcpu
06-12-2006, 05:01 AM
What is the purpose of having the Caps so close to the socket? Also the heatpipe is that actually worth it for cooling? or is it for show

overclocker.at
06-12-2006, 05:43 AM
I should have my hands on that board in a week or so here, i'll throw my conroe XE 2.93Ghz in there and post some results for you guys.nice :clap:
conroe xe is also nice :slobber:

FischOderAal
06-12-2006, 06:03 AM
What is the purpose of having the Caps so close to the socket? Also the heatpipe is that actually worth it for cooling? or is it for show

just looking good ;) if you look at P5WD2-E which doesn't have Heatpipes and only Aluminium Heatsinks.

I think that's a trend coming over from AMD and nVidias very hot nForce 4. if they don't want to use active cooling, they need Heatpipes to transport the Heat to more places.

but well, I'm not sad about this :D I think the heatpipes are looking good. acutally I wanted to Watercool the Chipset too. hm :( hey, I still got enough Airflow (overall 6 * 120mm Fan) so this mustn't be a problem ^^

JoeBar
06-12-2006, 07:57 AM
Heatpipes are just for looks till now for intel chipsets.

Unrealcpu
06-14-2006, 08:04 PM
Heatpipes are just for looks till now for intel chipsets.

Yeah I wonder how much of a difference there is in cooling . It seems DFI is not using them at all.

Pied
06-14-2006, 10:16 PM
I should have my hands on that board in a week or so here, i'll throw my conroe XE 2.93Ghz in there and post some results for you guys.

it's hard waiting for the mobo when i have the xe starting at me :(

Unrealcpu
06-15-2006, 08:34 AM
Abit looks like its coming back with a bang
The Abit AW9D motherboard uses the 975X chipset to support the upcoming Core 2 Duo processors and will be Abit's high end motherboards for Intel's new platform. It supports CrossFire with two x8 PCIe connections and 7.1 channel audio as well.


http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/261/abit_975xmax.jpg

.The Fatal1ty brand also rests on the FP-A9D motherboard based on the 975X chipset. It will support the Core 2 Duo processors, so this might end up being one of the best boards for gaming we'll soon see, as it has CrossFire support as well.

i like this HDMI
http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/261/asus_7600gthdmi_connector.jpg



This SFF motherboard is pretty interesting; based off of the Intel 945GT chipset, this 479-pin processor socket board currently works with Core Duo and Solo processors. Support for Core 2 Duo Merom CPUs should be pretty easy to do, as well. Even more interesting is the HDMI output connector on the board that supports 1080p output resolutions
http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/261/abit_954hdmi.jpg
http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/261/abit_fat975x.jpg


You can see on the board's back panel that both a VGA and HDMI output connector are useable, as are the range of digital and analog audio outputs. This board might be a fantastic HTPC option; we'll let you know when we get one!


http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/261/abit_954hdmi_back.jpg


The P5W DH Deluxe board seen here also uses the Intel P965 chipset but adds some other features such as a remote control and front panel device for a more HTPC style setup.


http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/261/asus_p5bdh.jpg

http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/261/asus_demo_backpanel.jpg


Finally, here we see the most ambitious product, self-contained liquid cooling on a north bridge!! Yikes!!
http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/261/asus_demo_watercool.jpg

http://http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=261&type=expert&pid=1
Go here for the news

I like this

http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/261/asus_7600gthdmi_connector.jpg

JoeBar
06-15-2006, 08:43 AM
P5W DH Deluxe is a 975X board and not 965. ;)

Vric
06-15-2006, 09:16 AM
Abit looks like its coming back with a bang
The Abit AW9D motherboard uses the 975X chipset to support the upcoming Core 2 Duo processors and will be Abit's high end motherboards for Intel's new platform. It supports CrossFire with two x8 PCIe connections and 7.1 channel audio as well.


http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/261/abit_975xmax.jpg

Would be nice you you would have at least one PCI slot available !
What a dumb layout !! :stick: