Futuremark have signed a deal with Microsoft Corp

[Pinnacle]

Futuremark, creators of world's most widely used benchmarks for PCs and handhelds, today announced they have signed a deal with Microsoft Corp (NASDAQ "MSFT"). The contract covers online services and performance analysis tools in support of Microsoft Windows XP and the upcoming Windows Vista operating systems

More:

http://www.pcstats.com/releaseview.cfm?releaseID=1447

[OmegaMerc]

Looks like MS gave up in making their own benchmark tool?

[[XC] leviathan18]

they developed a bench before....

[nn_step]

And they can do it again..

[OmegaMerc]

but they rather have someone else do it

[nn_step]

because Microsoft doesn't know how to make anything well

[thunderstruck!]

because Microsoft doesn't know how to make anything well
I never get what all the M$ bashing is all about..

[nn_step]

I never get what all the M$ bashing is all about..
Two terms for you, Greed and DRM

[comrad]

I never get what all the M$ bashing is all about..
The own the O/S market so they can do what ever the hell they want... :(

[zabomb4163]

The own the O/S market so they can do what ever the hell they want... :(

1) they have by far the best office productivity tools. but im sure that doesnt matter to you

2) they spend CONSIDERABLY more money on operating system developement than any other company. several billion $ per year.

3) MS sever is considered the best sever software bar none. but of course your not going to acknowledge it. correct?

4) xbox360.....(they are selling them like crazy. a conversation with anyone who works in electronics will fill you in)

[nn_step]

1) they have by far the best office productivity tools. but im sure that doesnt matter to you

2) they spend CONSIDERABLY more money on operating system developement than any other company. several billion $ per year.

3) MS sever is considered the best sever software bar none. but of course your not going to acknowledge it. correct?

4) xbox360.....(they are selling them like crazy. a conversation with anyone who works in electronics will fill you in)
1) ever heard of OpenOffice?
2) no they spend considerable money on stock options and getting middle aged men into tacky suits
3) Ever hear of Unix or BSD? so You are WRONG.
4) they actually are losing money on every sale of the Xbox 360 but they intend to make up the loss with the sale of Lots of games

[zabomb4163]

1) dont try to pretend open office is an equal to office. maybe YOU dont know how to use the advanced features of office but many of us do.

2) really? who spends more on R and D?

3) link me to this linux or BSD that matches windows in support and functionality. i have the feel its what i'd like to refer to as BS

4) ........

[nn_step]

1) dont try to pretend open office is an equal to office. maybe YOU dont know how to use the advanced features of office but many of us do.

2) really? who spends more on R and D?

3) link me to this linux or BSD that matches windows in support and functionality. i have the feel its what i'd like to refer to as BS

4) ........
http://www.freebsd.org/
http://www.openbsd.org/
http://www.netbsd.org/

[Absolute_0]

I don't have a problem with MS but i'm used to people bashing them, it's all a matter of money and whoever has the most is "bad."

[Ouchy]

Two terms for you, Greed and DRM

Corporations want to make money. DRM lets them make more money.

Why are you singling out MS?

[nn_step]

Corporations want to make money. DRM lets them make more money.

Why are you singling out MS?
Because they are the best at it

[Ouchy]

Because they are the best at it

They're not though, so I pose the question once more: Why MS?

[BSill]

I don't have a problem with MS but i'm used to people bashing them, it's all a matter of money and whoever has the most is "bad."

Agree fully nice/fair guys finish last.

[comrad]

1) they have by far the best office productivity tools. but im sure that doesnt matter to you

2) they spend CONSIDERABLY more money on operating system developement than any other company. several billion $ per year.

3) MS sever is considered the best sever software bar none. but of course your not going to acknowledge it. correct?

4) xbox360.....(they are selling them like crazy. a conversation with anyone who works in electronics will fill you in)
1) OpenOffice is just as good as M$'s office.

2) They spend that much because they own the market and no other company even has a chance to compete so microsoft charges how much ever it wants for its crappy o/s. If MS has some competition we would be using better O/S's.

3) Sever? Do you mean server? If you do, you are TERRIBLY wrong.

4) We are not talking about game consoles, but even if we were:

4) they actually are losing money on every sale of the Xbox 360 but they intend to make up the loss with the sale of Lots of games


The main point I have is that no other company can compete with microshaft because it owns the market and no other company can come near it, sooo microsoft over charges for crapyp products that can be alot better. Did you notice videocards and cpu's keep getting better... All windows does is add features and a new interface... Why dont they work on the errors in their code? Ill tell you why, they dont care!

[comrad]

I don't have a problem with MS but i'm used to people bashing them, it's all a matter of money and whoever has the most is "bad."
No, MSoft isnt bad, they just dont play it like everyone else, again: NO COMPETITION.

[mursaat]

Sorry but isn't this the same news as this:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99735

(Just to stop the MS-BSD war :D)

[Vapor]

Wow, post 6 sure did turn this thread for the worst.

Microsoft probably realized it would cost less to pay a very experienced team to do it rather than have it done internally. Besides, if it's late, they can also blame someone else. There are many reasons why a company will contract out work; if Microsoft deemed it worthwhile, it'll probably turn out for the better and I applaud that decision.

[Daveb2012]

The own the O/S market so they can do what ever the hell they want... :(

I agree, I think gates is really concerned with quality too se he wanted to hire the best company for the job. I say thumbs up for anything they are doing that will beneit us.

[Clint]

Ms is to big to be concerned about moral and ethics as we know it, they simply "buy" moral and ethics "credits" with donations and other actions that are taking place either visible or unvisible for us simple people.
That in itself is nothing new, it has been like this for quite some time now...and we all know it.

But, the danger lies within the new concept of "safe" computing we are about to experiencing....TCP, DRM, Fritz Chip...and all that comes with it.

The fact that Ms are in the front of this development and that their OS's runs in 90% of the computers will allways and forever make them a allowable target for bashing and scrutinizing....I can't believe people that sits like a fish on dry land and just gulp everything in that they throw at you.

A company of that size don't give a rats ass about your integrity, for the company you are just a number...a number as any number they will work on to improve.

They do have the best office package, but thats about it...the rest is merely because the fact that 90% uses windows...so the market lies there for the program makers.

[MaxxxRacer]

1) ever heard of OpenOffice?
2) no they spend considerable money on stock options and getting middle aged men into tacky suits
3) Ever hear of Unix or BSD? so You are WRONG.
4) they actually are losing money on every sale of the Xbox 360 but they intend to make up the loss with the sale of Lots of games

1) they have by far the best office productivity tools. but im sure that doesnt matter to you

2) they spend CONSIDERABLY more money on operating system developement than any other company. several billion $ per year.

3) MS sever is considered the best sever software bar none. but of course your not going to acknowledge it. correct?

4) xbox360.....(they are selling them like crazy. a conversation with anyone who works in electronics will fill you in)


1. Office is a great software suite, and openoffice sucks compared to office. Ive used both quite a bit.

2. MS does spend a carpload of money on development. While they do have a ton of cash lying around, they do more software development than any other firm in the world.

3. MS server software is useful for small servers and where the IT deparment is not familliar with Linux. In short its easy to setup and maintain... BUT (and this is a huge but), if you have a Linux/Unix friendly IT department (and most large companies do, barring MS) a Unix server will walk all over a MS server any day of the week, assuming the IT guys are good at setting it up and whatnot.

4. X360's are selling VERY well in the U.S. but have lackluster sales in Asia. yes, they are loosing money on every console, but there hasnt been a console released in a very long time where this has not been true. So in short, the X360 is doing very well on a whole and if they can get some Jap game developers on board, sony can kiss their market share goodbye.

[Sam666]

What annoys me is people like nn_step that bash windows and MS 24/7 but still use windows?

[nn_step]

What annoys me is people like nn_step that bash windows and MS 24/7 but still use windows?
except I don't use windows I just mod it for other people to use :rolleyes:

[don_vercetti]

so what do you benchmark with then?

Seems likely to me that this deal is something to do with the inbuilt computer ranking thing that Vista is gonna have. Their last scoring system looked rather basic, so hopefully futuremark can come up with something a bit better. They are already moving that way, with their modular PS 2.0/ PS 3.0 benching contributing to the total score.