View Full Version : Chilly1 single stage issues...
tardbus2
05-11-2006, 12:48 PM
So i've had this chilly1 vapo for a while (will update with pictures this evening) and it's my first unit i've ever messed with so kinda uncertain what i'm doing.
I've currently got it mounted on the following:
Asus P5WD2-E Prem
Intel 670 (3.8/2m/800)
1gb XMS2 8000ul
BFG 7800gtx 512mb
A friend and I were setting it up the other night and everything was working fine it'll run just fine in bios and idle at about -40c but once benching/gaming starts to begin then it slowly begins to heat up until it reaches about -17c and then the vapo simply shuts down on it's own leaving system running. We had filled the socket with dielectric (super corona dope from frys) and painted the surrounding area of socket with some nail polish. We're using the standard chilly1 mounting that came with the unit, but maybe some more insulating foam is needed around the socket as well? What would cause this to happen? The vapo has been through 2 owners now so maybe there is some sort of recharge or maintainence needed to the unit? The board was brand new out of the box when we started so doubting any issues with that.
Thanks!
n00b 0f l337
05-11-2006, 12:52 PM
Do you have a ge froster or the like?
Vincentvega18
05-11-2006, 01:02 PM
Sounds like an issue with the unit, not the comp.
ayrtonsenna
05-11-2006, 01:10 PM
sounds like its undercharged if the temps slowly rise untill the pc bsod's and resets.
misread, its the unit that restarts and not the pc.then it must be a control issue or compressor problem.
n00b 0f l337
05-11-2006, 01:13 PM
I dont think he said the pc was BSOD'ing. The Vapo's just turning off at -19C and leaving the comp on.
tardbus2
05-11-2006, 01:25 PM
Ok, then pretty much what I thought with something to do with charge or whatnot. I don't think I have a GE froster, tried googling it but seems that it might be an XS thing?
Just curious but how hard is it to recharge the unit, as I have no familiarity with how to maintain the unit but would be willing to ship off for a fixup. Also, think it's possible to upgrade it at all, might be hard to tell without pictures of the unit and whatnot but maybe there's a better mix than what i'm running currently?
Thanks for fast responses, need to get this thing up and running for some conroe ES action in the next week or so = P
EDIT: Pictures
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/8374/vapofront3rg.th.jpg (http://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vapofront3rg.jpg)
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/1613/vapofront25dk.th.jpg (http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vapofront25dk.jpg)
gclg2000
05-11-2006, 10:11 PM
It could be hard to troubleshoot this on the net....the next questions we need answered are pressure measurements and the like....that being said...i would contact chilly1 via PM...
My guess is though....i doubt any gas has leaked out, i'm sure its brazed up fine...maybe some damage in shipping could make a pin hole leak, but i doubt it, it would prob be all leaked out now...
Contact chilly like i said...
on a side note....if it needs to be recharged for whatever reason (and a potential leak rebrazed or "re flowed")...that type of work could be done by any local experienced HVAC technician.....but chilly1 has great service, just the shipping cost back and forth is what sucks...
tardbus2
05-12-2006, 09:58 AM
Yeah, really wasn't getting my hopes up on getting it figured out on thread, more just figuring out what might be the problem before I ship off. Shooting him a PM now to see what he says. Thanks!
eshbach
05-12-2006, 12:53 PM
Well, your location says Texas... Runmc is also in Texas (though I don't know where, and I realize Texas is huge). If you guys are pretty close, Runmc might be able to fix you up... I don't want to volunteer him for the job or anything, though. I'm just saying he's in the same state as you and he's an accomplished phase change builder.
runmc
05-12-2006, 02:00 PM
Yea I live in Arlington which is about an hour away at the most. Maybe I can help you. I'll shoot you my number.:)
Revv23
05-12-2006, 02:02 PM
wierd that it just shuts off like that...
tardbus2
05-12-2006, 04:47 PM
Yea I live in Arlington which is about an hour away at the most. Maybe I can help you. I'll shoot you my number.:)
AWSOME! Just shot you a PM then read your msg here, but yeah, i'm in Carrollton and arlington isn't far at all! Thanks!
jinu117
05-12-2006, 05:30 PM
it shuts off if evap temp is too high with froster value, xe, etc.
I guess the unit wasn't tuned for that load he is subjecting it to.
runmc
05-12-2006, 07:34 PM
You might want to PM Ssilencer and ask him if that is a Golden Froster in your cooler.
It also sounds to me like the controller is shutting of the cooler, but the controller should also cut off the PC at the same time.
pazza316
05-13-2006, 09:42 AM
Hey Run Mc, Thats a Golden Froster Value in their for sure and yes under normal operation it should indeed shut down the PC at the same time.
runmc
05-13-2006, 09:46 AM
Hey Run Mc, Thats a Golden Froster Value in their for sure and yes under normal operation it should indeed shut down the PC at the same time.
Thank you -pazza :)
Golden_Eagle
05-13-2006, 10:07 AM
As pazza already said, that´s a G-Froster Value 1.1.
The compressor never is shut down by the controller before making sure the pc-psu is in stand by.
In normal conditions, if evap temp > 0ºC the pc will be shut down, and after that, the compresor will no longer receive any power.
If the compressor stops working for any other reason, the thermal protection will still be shuting down the pc when reaching 0ºc.
Regards.
tardbus2
05-15-2006, 11:15 AM
So basically it sounds like there might be something wrong or misadjusted with the controller? I had bought the unit used and the other user was using it on AMD and said he had no problems at all. How would I go about adjusting the GE froster chip to meet my systems needs?
Golden_Eagle
05-15-2006, 12:14 PM
So, the pc doesn´t turn off when the evap reading is over 0ºc?
tardbus2
05-15-2006, 12:22 PM
Not sure, the unit powers down and then begins the countdown from 300 seconds again.
jinu117
05-15-2006, 12:52 PM
I will comment... do you plug your pc psu to phase unit? If not, it won't happen.
tardbus2
05-22-2006, 01:07 PM
So now the unit just powers on, counts down from 300, begins to cool down for about 5-10*c and then completely powers down while not even connected to a processor, just sitting there. I have pictures of the parts i will post later.
Revv23
05-22-2006, 07:57 PM
personally i think its a leak, i mean, a pinhole leak, my thinking is that because it couldnt hold load before and now it cant even pull down that the charge is getting less and less... if that is that case runmc should be able to hook that up for you really easily.
Ssilencer
05-22-2006, 09:56 PM
I sent you a pm to see if you have the controller connected to the pc correctly and also to help you.
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