Too early for Conroe RIG SPECS?

[charlie]

2 months out...

But what will the best choices be for a Conroe rig:

Mobo: Model XXX

Conroe: Model XXX

Cooling:

Ram:

Videocard(s):

PSU:

[althes]

I am sticking with my x1900xt for my games.
ram 8000ul

[Salvador]

Too early to tell isnt it? :P

But I've thought about Conroe + G80, or Dual Woodcrest + G80, or something in that direction ! ;)

[S&M]

Dunno what about ya charlie , But I started picking up stuff ...

Bought Super Talent DDR2 Kit on ebay - PC2-8000, T1000UX2G5, 2X1GB.
As for mobo, will wait for Dfi to come out with their products.
conroe model and psu still too early to decide.

[Absolute_0]

I think we've got this figured out

Mobo: Albatron
Conroe: XE :D
Cooling: phase
Ram: high end 2x1gb
Videocard: x1900 CF
PSU: Zippy 850

Or more likely in my case, 200$ board, whatever Conroe i can get, 1gb mediocre DDR2 (prolly going to upgrade it in ~7 months when DDR2 gets much better), keepin my 7900GT, was thinking about a new PSU but don't know whats hot these days.

[Waffles]

doesn't apply to conroe specifically, but check out this 750w silverstone w/ 4x 12v rails @18 amps apiece. only $210 too.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817256006

[Absolute_0]

Heh, but for people like me with a single GPU and a Conroe, i don't think we will need too much power. 170 @ 3+ Ghz and 7900GT run great on 485w PSU, Conroe will consume LESS power, i think non CF/SLI guys won't need 600+w.

[charlie]

Ok Conroe and RAM........

Deep subject. So Conroe will have low multi's like 7-10? Maybe 11?

That means the boards will need to clock well. And the ram... the ram will fly. Looks like everyone will run 400-450mHz (DDR800-900) prob at 4-4-4 because there IS NO D9.

Oh yeah... on Vapo LS the Conroe will be SOOO ridiculously fast. 10 sec superPi?

Mmmmmm... Conroe XE :slobber:

[cirthix]

Mobo: Model XXX (unknown, will wait and see)

Conroe: Model e4300 (9x mutli for cheap)

Cooling: 7700cu probably (have one now)

Ram: 2x1gb, whatever's cheap and fast (no ddr2 atm)

Videocard(s):7800gtx (or x1800xt if a can swap with someone)

PSU:coolmax 450w (should be more than enough)

should be good :)

[charlie]

will conroe XE be 10 x 333 = 3.33gHz??

Will it have UP unlocked multi's?

[Salvador]

will conroe XE be 10 x 333 = 3.33gHz??

Will it have UP unlocked multi's?

Or 9 x 333 = 3Ghz.

Noone knows what the XE's speed will be ATM i think.

Woodcrest 5160 is 9 x 333 :)

[perry_78]

7800gtx cards will be the way to go for me. cheap as ice cream these days.

[Vassili]

That means the boards will need to clock well. And the ram... the ram will fly. Looks like everyone will run 400-450mHz (DDR800-900) prob at 4-4-4 because there IS NO D9.
Doesn't SuperTalent have D9? Though it's no fatbody it can preform pretty good, seeing what FUGGER did with it.

But on-topic:
Mobo: Abit, Asus or DFI(most likely), though if there any other good brands I'll pick that one.
Conroe: 6600 or 6700 or something like that.
Cooling: Single Stage Phase Change (by unkown_road, he is making one for me at the moment.:banana: )
Ram: 2x1 GB Supertalent D9 or 4x1GB Supertalent D9, don't know if it is usefull...
Videocard(s): X800GTO2 T.E.C. cooled, since the conroe takes up al my money.:p:
PSU: Don't know yet, OCZ GameXStream looks tempting, or just a normal Tagan would do it.

[Johnny Sack]

Mobo: Model XXX Abit, ASUS, (first good brand I can) DFI :crossfingers:

Conroe: Model XXX 2.13GHZ E6400

Cooling: Air XP90/Si-120 + 2 120mm Panaflos

Ram: Last minute

Videocard(s):7800gtEVGA

PSU: (Overkill) Fan Modded Sparkle FSP550-PLG-SLI 550W Single/36A+12v

[the farmer]

AFAIK there will be an E8000 3,33Ghz FSB 1333Mhz 4MB L2 cache TDP 95W. This beast is scheduled for Q4 and will cost $ 1199.

[Salvador]

AFAIK there will be an E8000 3,33Ghz FSB 1333Mhz 4MB L2 cache TDP 95W. This beast is scheduled for Q4 and will cost $ 1199.

Do you have a link to that? Then I want it :)

My guess is that the XE version will cost 999$ as every other Intel XE's.

[Waus-mod]

charlie.. it will be dfi cf i975x for sure for the board.
non XE will be the highest clocked 2.67ghz (E6700)
and cooling :) just wat you like ;)

[FischOderAal]

I think we've got this figured out

Mobo: Albatron
Conroe: XE :D
Cooling: phase
Ram: high end 2x1gb
Videocard: x1900 CF
PSU: Zippy 850

Or more likely in my case, 200$ board, whatever Conroe i can get, 1gb mediocre DDR2 (prolly going to upgrade it in ~7 months when DDR2 gets much better), keepin my 7900GT, was thinking about a new PSU but don't know whats hot these days.

Mobo: Albatron PXP965 (looks very interesting to me) - might be around 200€
Conroe: I will go for the E6400 I think (70$ less than 6600, but I still don't know how much 2mb L2 will affect the performance) - 240€
Cooling: Water (Triple Swiftech/Cooltek -> quiet) - already here
Ram: 2x1 Gig - best bang für app. 200 €
Video: 7900GT - under 300€, looks delicous! or due to costs 7600GT
PSU: huh, I don't know :(

All I want is a nice, fast, quiet and cost effective (don't know a better description *doh*) rig ;) I don't want to pay much more than 1k€ (especially because I will be a student soon).

but I really think that CF and SLI is useless for most people, especially as I saw some people running SLI with 19" CRT (*helloooooo?!* :slapass: )

furthermore I've had MCI/MDT DDR1 Ram for several years, and they came out fast enough for my needs (always the first choosing the sides in CoD2 *kehkeh*) with decent OC (e.g. 225 with 2,5-3-3-5 or 200 with 2-3-2-5 ; stock 200 and 2,5-3-3-8). today 2 gig of MCI/MDT DDR2-667 only cost about 140€!

but still, the E4300 looks interesting too (9*Multiplier...)

[the farmer]

Do you have a link to that? Then I want it :)

My guess is that the XE version will cost 999$ as every other Intel XE's.

E8000 (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/41855/?highlight=conroe)

Price is a bit early to say i think :).

[Salvador]

charlie.. it will be dfi cf i975x for sure for the board.
non XE will be the highest clocked 2.67ghz (E6700)
cooling :) just wat you like ;)

Yes. And No. To give it all:

Launch in Q3'06
E6300
E6400
E6600, en 2,40Ghz Dual Core 4Mb L2 cache 1066MHz FSB. TDP 65W
E6700, en 2,67Ghz Dual Core 4Mb L2 cache 1066Mhz FSB. TDP 65W

Launch in Q4'06
E4200
E6200
E6500
E6800, 2,93Ghz Dual Core 4Mb L2 cache 1066Mhz FSB. TDP 65W
E6900, 3,20Ghz Dual Core 4Mb L2 cache 1066Mhz FSB. TDP 65W?
E8000, 3,33Ghz Dual Core 4Mb L2 cache 1333Mhz FSB. TDP 95W

[FUGGER]

I will ask to when I can release my machine specs, you will all be surprised.

[cupholder2.0]

Mobo: Bad Axe rev 304 or some other high end Intel board
Conroe: probably E6600
Cooling: Tt Big Typhoon (already have)
Ram: 4x512 PC4300 (already have) might upgrade
Video: eVGA 6800 GS OCed (already have)
PSU: Antec Trueblue 2.0 480 Watt (more than enough)

[Salvador]

E8000 (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/41855/?highlight=conroe)

Price is a bit early to say i think :).

Yeah, i forgot my self. Look at my post over this one.

Don't think that Intel will charge more than 999$ as far as I'm concerned. Rather that the Q3 models will have price cuts when Q4 models arrive :)

But sorry OP, for all the Off topic;)

Most certain that I will cool my Conroe/Woodcrest with quiet Air :stick:

Edit: To compare, a Woodcrest 5160 (9x333) I have heard to cost 851$, or somewhat around there.

[rozzyroz]

im thinking e6600, corsair xms 2x 1gb pc 6400 (or whatever is proven at the time), x1800xt in cf ($650 new) or x1900xtx (unless nvidia decides to support conroe, then its up in the air), 250gb hd(seagate), new power supply and cooling (air). the motherboard is what i am uncertain on yet. i like abit, but asus and dfi will also be an option.

i think these conroes will have no problems hitting 3.3ghz+ on good air cooling. 400X9 would just rock however :slapass:

the whole setup should cost about $1400-$1500 depending on what i do for video cards... i can hardly wait :explode:

[charlie]

So the E6700 will be the first high ender to hit our dirty paws. That's a 10x multi... I'd expect maybe 3500mHz on AIR. I mean if the E8000 will hit 3.33 Intel certified to run in a closet in Kuala Lumpur... how high in a cool room with a BT?
That's like 4.3ghz fx-60, lol...

Ok anyways so assuming a 3500mHz target we'll need 10 x 350. What divider you gonna run? 2:1 throws you into 700mhz land... what will run there? So shall we hit it with a divider that allows us to run as high as we can @ 4-4-4?? Maybe shoot for 500mHz? 3:4? Or higher @ cas5?

[Waus-mod]

thats one of the problems.. would conroe love 1:1 and tight timings or massive memmory mhz's with loose latency's. we dont know yet

[Rustafur]

Don't know about you guys, but I've been too busy praying that my old lady will let me spend the money to build a new Conroe/Celly-M-DFI Cross Fire-Dual X1800XT-Crucial RAM-Danger Den wc'd-WD Raptor HD rig that I haven't had much time to think about what parts I want :eek:

Today after 10 years of faithful service to AMD I am renouncing my loyalty to the Green Machine and announcing my alliegence to Intel.

Everyone else who feels the same, you are welcome to come to my house next saturday night for a flag burning cerimony, and the raising of a new Intel flag in my back yard.

[JimboJoe43]

Forget D9 chips.

Did you all see Victor's post of the new OCZ modules he has?

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=98387

550+ mhz at 4-4-4-4

Does anyone still care about microns old chips knowing we can get memory like that!?

[Alex08]

Forget D9 chips.

Did you all see Victor's post of the new OCZ modules he has?

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=98387

550+ mhz at 4-4-4-4

Does anyone still care about microns old chips knowing we can get memory like that!?

don't be so quick, you can see The Stilt's D9's doing 570 @ 4-3-3 in the same thread. yes i know its only 2x512mb.

[Absolute_0]

Forget D9 chips.

Did you all see Victor's post of the new OCZ modules he has?

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=98387

550+ mhz at 4-4-4-4

Does anyone still care about microns old chips knowing we can get memory like that!?

:eek:
Good ram

Unfortunately i tried looking up the price and its going for 300 GBP...

@ Alex 2gb is pretty much the only way to go for gamers IMO :), i was planning on getting cheap 1gb kit and upgrading to a good 2gb kit because they're improving so fast, maybe i can get good 2gb kit right off the bat because it's lookin so good. I don't care about performance 1gb kits.

[Alex08]

:eek:
Good ram

Unfortunately i tried looking up the price and its going for 300 GBP...

@ Alex 2gb is pretty much the only way to go for gamers IMO :), i was planning on getting cheap 1gb kit and upgrading to a good 2gb kit because they're improving so fast, maybe i can get good 2gb kit right off the bat because it's lookin so good. I don't care about performance 1gb kits.

You're right I would go with 2gb's if I were gaming, so I agree with what you're saying, but I was thinking in terms of benching instead of running a gaming rig.

[Absolute_0]

Yeah totally for benching D9s are still doing great. I was just amazed to see such good stuff in a 2gb package! I'll probably still get 1gb and upgrade to 2gb towards the end of the year. these good 2gb kits are just TOO expensive.

[mesyn191]

AFAIK there will be an E8000 3,33Ghz FSB 1333Mhz 4MB L2 cache TDP 95W. This beast is scheduled for Q4 and will cost $ 1199.

I could understand if you wanted to leave things at stock to pay these prices, but if you're going to OC it doesn't really make sense to get the highest possible stock chip. It won't help you OC better at all, and usually just means that the chip will have less headroom to OC vs. the lower clocked versions of the same core.

The 6600 seems to be the one to get for OC'ing as its the cheapest one with a 4MB L2 and the 1066Mhz FSB (vs. starting out trying to OC from 1333Mhz...) should pretty much garantee an easy OC on air and phase change.

I doubt you'll be needing any sort of special low latency RAM for Conroe either, that huge L2 and the memory disambiguation hardware will probably make any sort of low latency gains even more negligable than they already are. If it turns out that memory dividers have a performance penalty than all we'll need is RAM capable of hitting very high clocks regardless of latency.

Personally I hope that mem. dividers don't really effect anything, like I've said before I've never had any real luck OC'ing RAM and it seems like you're going to need some real impressive stuff to be able to OC the FSB high enough where the CPU starts to become the limting factor and not the RAM (this is all assuming that we get overclocks like those with ES's have been getting though...).

[kyleslater]

I will ask to when I can release my machine specs, you will all be surprised.
I was suspicious there was something like that going on. Well I appreciate you bending the rules where you can :D

[metro.cl]

ram: soon to be announced :)

[the farmer]

I could understand if you wanted to leave things at stock to pay these prices, but if you're going to OC it doesn't really make sense to get the highest possible stock chip. It won't help you OC better at all, and usually just means that the chip will have less headroom to OC vs. the lower clocked versions of the same core.

... huge leap of text

I agree totally.
About the oc'ing. RAM was never the problem for me, the X2 4400 (first batch in Holland) was the bad guy. Won't do more then 200Mhz overclock :slapass: .

[mesyn191]

I agree totally.
About the oc'ing. RAM was never the problem for me, the X2 4400 (first batch in Holland) was the bad guy. Won't do more then 200Mhz overclock :slapass: .

Yea, early adopters usually get screwed regardless of wether they buy Intel or AMD.

That is why I'm not going to jump on AM2 or Conroe when they first become available. I'm gonna wait at least a month or 2 for the bugs to get worked out of the motherboards (or at least a fixed BIOS release) and the drivers til' I buy.

Hopefully by then I'll have my phase change setup back from chilly1 to play with to keep me from letting my money burn any holes through my pocket.

[Durzel]

I agree totally.
About the oc'ing. RAM was never the problem for me, the X2 4400 (first batch in Holland) was the bad guy. Won't do more then 200Mhz overclock :slapass: .Depending on what is possible on Conroe under phase, then the XE might be the best chip to get simply because of the unlocked multi (12x - 60x), otherwise you could be limited to about 3.5Ghz (10 x 350) on a E6700, which may even be possible on air... therefore the phase change would be wasted.

Imagine if Conroes will do 4Ghz - 5Ghz under phase? :cool:

[[cTx]Philosophy]

Depending on what is possible on Conroe under phase, then the XE might be the best chip to get simply because of the unlocked multi (12x - 60x), otherwise you could be limited to about 3.5Ghz (10 x 350) on a E6700, which may even be possible on air... therefore the phase change would be wasted.

Imagine if Conroes will do 4Ghz - 5Ghz under phase? :cool:

I woulda thought that they would be able to do 4-5ghz, it would surely be a good thing..

[Daveb2012]

What do you guys think an E6400 compares to in AMD terms. I am parting out my system now and putting the $ into a savings account until the E6400 or E6600 comes out. not sure which I will get yet.

I will be selling:
dfi ultra-d MB
2gb of Mushkin xp4000
Opteron 148
xp90 w/ delta fan
old x-navigor aspire case.

I already have everything else I need, i know I won't get much $ for my current hardware. But I don't want to spend hundreds more then I need to get similir performance.

[the farmer]

Hopefully by then I'll have my phase change setup back from chilly1 to play with to keep me from letting my money burn any holes through my pocket.
Looking forward to it :).

Depending on what is possible on Conroe under phase, then the XE might be the best chip to get simply because of the unlocked multi (12x - 60x), otherwise you could be limited to about 3.5Ghz (10 x 350) on a E6700, which may even be possible on air... therefore the phase change would be wasted.

Imagine if Conroes will do 4Ghz - 5Ghz under phase?
If dividers doesn't hurt performance on Conroe then you don't need a high multi. I hope like mesyn191 that's the case. Normally I buy the lowest number of the highest cache (the E6600 in this case).
9x350 with divider 3/5 make 5250Ghz looks fine to me :).

What do you guys think an E6400 compares to in AMD terms. I am parting out my system now and putting the $ into a savings account until the E6400 or E6600 comes out. not sure which I will get yet.

I will be selling:
dfi ultra-d MB
2gb of Mushkin xp4000
Opteron 148
xp90 w/ delta fan
old x-navigor aspire case.

I already have everything else I need, i know I won't get much $ for my current hardware. But I don't want to spend hundreds more then I need to get similir performance.
I would say it's to early to call. We don't know if dividers and cache hurts performance.

[Waus-mod]

similir perfomance LOL.... the E6400 will smash everything.. then again your opty 148 is no competition for conroe ;) so sell all of it

[savantu]

Or 9 x 333 = 3Ghz.

Noone knows what the XE's speed will be ATM i think.

Woodcrest 5160 is 9 x 333 :)

I hope it will be 10x333 , after all Conroe XE has higher TDP freedom ( 95w ) compared with 9x333 Woodcrest ( 80w) .

[Donnie27]

2 months out...

But what will the best choices be for a Conroe rig:

Mobo: Model XXX

Conroe: Model XXX

Cooling:

Ram:

Videocard(s):

PSU:

Asus i965, maybe Deluxe
E6600 with plans to overclock to 3GHz but will settle for 2.7GHz.
OCZ DDR2 667 since we already saw 5-5-5-15 can do.

Antec TP 2.0 SLI 550W I already have, I think Conroe systems will use less power.Use my X800XL until the rumored price cuts on the 7900GT or X1900XL. Might look at Crossfire.

[incurable]

My current plan is to get the following for Conroe:

CPU: Core Duo E6600

mobo: prolly an i975X-based mobo, though not the Intel one (slot arrangement doesn't fit my needs)

GPU: If ATi ever comes around to add Master-less CF for my current X1800XT, I might consider getting another one now that they're below 300 Euros. This might effect my motherboard choice, too.

RAM: not sure which company, but 2x1024MB modules, PC6400-rated

cooling: Cathar's Storm G4-based water cooling sys, already in use

PSU: Enermax Liberty 480W, got it only a couple of months ago, works nicely.

[Mowgli]

Yes. And No. To give it all:

Launch in Q3'06
E6300
E6400
E6600, en 2,40Ghz Dual Core 4Mb L2 cache 1066MHz FSB. TDP 65W
E6700, en 2,67Ghz Dual Core 4Mb L2 cache 1066Mhz FSB. TDP 65W

Launch in Q4'06
E4200
E6200
E6500
E6800, 2,93Ghz Dual Core 4Mb L2 cache 1066Mhz FSB. TDP 65W
E6900, 3,20Ghz Dual Core 4Mb L2 cache 1066Mhz FSB. TDP 65W?
E8000, 3,33Ghz Dual Core 4Mb L2 cache 1333Mhz FSB. TDP 95W

are all these conroes? or Kentsfield? in Q4 more conroes coming out? n then in Q1 Kentsfield Quad core scheduled to be released?? isnt thing moving too fast? i mean, new batch of procs almost every half yr...:confused:

[jdam]

my budget is limited as a poor student :P

so i probably will go for the:
E6700 : 2,67Ghz cus it has the same multi as the XE
a 7900GT probably
ram is still pretty vague, some ddr2-800?
i allready have a silverstone 560W (i think it will hold (12v line =38A)

[Der_KHAN]

I will ask to when I can release my machine specs, you will all be surprised.i bet 10 pounds of beef that its an elitegroup board :hehe:

[vanovich]

yea, wouldnt we all like to know .:D i dont think people will be gettinng much more overclock with phase cooling ,then water . when i played with dothan and phase , i could only oc the cpu 200 mhz more , and im suspecting conroe ,will be maybe just a bit better , but since the pipelines are shorter ,i doubt they will oc so high , hope im wrong though .

[mesyn191]

Depending on what is possible on Conroe under phase, then the XE might be the best chip to get simply because of the unlocked multi (12x - 60x), otherwise you could be limited to about 3.5Ghz (10 x 350) on a E6700, which may even be possible on air... therefore the phase change would be wasted.

Imagine if Conroes will do 4Ghz - 5Ghz under phase? :cool:

Based on what we've seen so far 4Ghz miiight be possible with phase, but 5Ghz? Even with LN2 I don't think you'll be able to get to that speed.

Anyways, I'd rather have working FSB dividers with no performance penalty than have to get crazy high FSB speeds to OC. Makes things soooo much easier and saves money too as you can get away with using the value RAM DDR2 instead of spending a bundle on OC'ing RAM.

[Mindfield]

How will Conroe and its supporting chipsets handle 4GB(4x1GB)? That's what I'm hoping for in a Conroe build.

[FUGGER]

I am running a next generation ATI chipset. (hearing brakes lock up)

This will be the hot board this summer.

That is all the information I can give at this time.

4GB is fine with Conroe

With Conroe, it is possible to disable one core from bios and force all 4MB cache on one core. This will yield a higher overclock of a few hundred Mhz.

[vanovich]

I am running a next generation ATI chipset. (hearing brakes lock up)

This will be the hot board this summer.

That is all the information I can give at this time.

4GB is fine with Conroe

With Conroe, it is possible to disable one core from bios and force all 4MB cache on one core. This will yield a higher overclock of a few hundred Mhz.
is nt he a teaser :woot: nice to know fugger

[WildEye]

OMG! :slobber:

Thats great news Fugger. :toast: New ATI chipset huh? Maybe wait on that Bad Axe...

[Absolute_0]

With Conroe, it is possible to disable one core from bios and force all 4MB cache on one core. This will yield a higher overclock of a few hundred Mhz.

One core is going to be faster than the other, can we expect the worse core to be disabled?

Of course i've got single threaded benchmarks @ maximum speed in mind ;)

[rozzyroz]

I am running a next generation ATI chipset. (hearing brakes lock up)

This will be the hot board this summer.

That is all the information I can give at this time.

4GB is fine with Conroe

With Conroe, it is possible to disable one core from bios and force all 4MB cache on one core. This will yield a higher overclock of a few hundred Mhz.

:chicken: oh you tease! :banana:...

*has visions of crossfire without a master card*

[zakelwe]

New Ati chipset faster and/or more overclockable than Intel? Would be interesting if true.

I have decided nothing yet but I tend to favour the 900w Tagan psu

Regards

Andy

[illidan]

would it Seasonic S-12 430BH be enough for Conroe rig?

[BitpowerPM]

I'll take:

Asus P5B Deluxe :)
Core Duo E6600 :slobber:
2048 MB SyncMax DDR2-800 (Elpida based) 4-4-4-12 @ 1,9 V
+ my 7800 GTX
+ 4x250 Gig Samsung RAID5 + 2x160 Gig Samsung RAID0

http://home.htp-tel.de/wknappe/yonahstuff/DSCN0737.JPG

cu, BitpowerPM

[Mowgli]

i have a question, a silly it might be, but would someone mind explaining, why people are choosing the PC6400 RAMs instead of those PC8000 ones? shouldnt the PC8000 ones would be able to yield higher overclocks? somethin like PC4800 DDR1 which guarantees u 300Mhz?

[Waus-mod]

why asus if we can get dfi ;)

[ORCBEAST]

I am running a next generation ATI chipset. (hearing brakes lock up)

This will be the hot board this summer.

That is all the information I can give at this time.

4GB is fine with Conroe

With Conroe, it is possible to disable one core from bios and force all 4MB cache on one core. This will yield a higher overclock of a few hundred Mhz.

Man Im glad I joined up. Loadz happening on XS :toast:

Cant wait to hear what that chipset can do.

[JimboJoe43]

I am running a next generation ATI chipset. (hearing brakes lock up)

This will be the hot board this summer.

That is all the information I can give at this time.

4GB is fine with Conroe

With Conroe, it is possible to disable one core from bios and force all 4MB cache on one core. This will yield a higher overclock of a few hundred Mhz.

Would that be the R600 chipset?

I was reading a bit about that chipset and somewhere it says that motherboards with this chipset can handle physics while a video card could do everything else. This in turn would eliminate the need for those extra physics cards.

Do you know anything about that?

Also read that ATI has already sent out Directx10 devkits to video game creators. ATI seems to have gotten really cozy with Microsoft :smileysex At the moment it looks like ATI is doing alot of things right. Haven't heard too much out of the nvidia camp except that my future intel based system I invest in will not have enough bandwidth to support SLI :rolleyes:

[vanovich]

looks good with the asus board ,but lacking 2x8 or 2x16 when running crossfire ? its simalar to 955 chipset with one at 8 and other at 4 .when in cf mode . im not sure though.

[M.Beier]

I am running a next generation ATI chipset. (hearing brakes lock up)

This will be the hot board this summer.

That is all the information I can give at this time.

4GB is fine with Conroe

With Conroe, it is possible to disable one core from bios and force all 4MB cache on one core. This will yield a higher overclock of a few hundred Mhz.

Uhm Charles, that sure sounds like a killer in 01/03/AM3 when disabling :)

[BitpowerPM]

why asus if we can get dfi ;)
When DFI releases their Conroe board we can say "merry christmas"... :rolleyes:

[thecoldanddark]

I am running a next generation ATI chipset. (hearing brakes lock up) :eek:

This will be the hot board this summer. :cool:

That is all the information I can give at this time.

4GB is fine with Conroe :woot:

With Conroe, it is possible to disable one core from bios and force all 4MB cache on one core. This will yield a higher overclock of a few hundred Mhz.
:fact:

:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :eek: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

That's awsome, maybe I should wait to build a computer this summer...

[Vassili]

When DFI releases their Conroe board we can say "merry christmas"... :rolleyes:
I didn't known Christmas was in August? ;)

[over@locker886]

My best deal ever! = 2x512MB OCZ PC3500 Limited Edition Brainpower B6U808 *Winbond BH-5* for 90 euro!
Where? Please help, I now wanted new bh5 ram pair. thx
Sorry ,my oFF:rolleyes:

[Rickster_64]

So what is the NDA date for Conroe specs's officially? Also I heard this morning that it will run on existing I865 motherboards (yes, AGP, DDR1, etc.) Can anyone confirm or deny this information? I believe the INQ posted the story this morning.

[BitpowerPM]

I didn't known Christmas was in August? ;)
Do you REALLY think DFI Conroe Board is avaible in August ? :rolleyes:

I believe it first, when I see it. ;) :stick:

[thephenom]

So what is the NDA date for Conroe specs's officially? Also I heard this morning that it will run on existing I865 motherboards (yes, AGP, DDR1, etc.) Can anyone confirm or deny this information? I believe the INQ posted the story this morning.
I believe Intel is launching Conroe at Computex.

I'm surprised there has been no details for an nvidia chipset for Conroe, delays perhaps?

[automagic]

I believe Intel is launching Conroe at Computex.

I'm surprised there has been no details for an nvidia chipset for Conroe, delays perhaps?


That was no wiseman, he was a fool
:slapass:

[FischOderAal]

I am running a next generation ATI chipset. (hearing brakes lock up)

This will be the hot board this summer.

That is all the information I can give at this time.

4GB is fine with Conroe

With Conroe, it is possible to disable one core from bios and force all 4MB cache on one core. This will yield a higher overclock of a few hundred Mhz.

:shock: when can we expect more infos about that board/chipset? :stick:

[alexio]

Unless for benching I don't really see the need for a high-end Conroe. Maybe a dual-G80 or dual-R600 setup can really stress it, but even then I doubt that at high resolutions the Conroe will be limitting performance any time soon.

[panumas05]

Mobo: ASUS or DFI (Maybe)

Conroe: E6600 (I think is new 2.4C) or E6300

Cooling: Zalman 7000Cu (already have)

Ram: 512MB x2

Videocard(s): Gigabyte GF6200 (already have)

PSU: Enermax 535W

[Der_KHAN]

Unless for benching I don't really see the need for a high-end Conroe. Maybe a dual-G80 or dual-R600 setup can really stress it, but even then I doubt that at high resolutions the Conroe will be limitting performance any time soon.never underestimate the inefficiency of code :D

[pumero]

Also I heard this morning that it will run on existing I865 motherboards (yes, AGP, DDR1, etc.)
the i865 chipset can do it with oc' but the problem is the older vrm spec on the currently shipping boards.
so the answer must be: no
new boards with proper vrm: yes

is no one else sceptical about the la grande thing in the i965/ich8 chipset? :hm:

Mobo: ? with i975x or ati RD600
CPU: E6600
Mem: 2x 1GB
GPU: X800 XT (still good enough)
Cooling: Water

[d@rkn1ko]

mobo : i975x asus? abit? dfi?
ram 2x512 d9 fatbody
CPU: E6600 or E6700
GPU:x800xl (already have)
cooling: water and my chilly 1 dod:D (already have)
PSu: enermax liberty 620 or antec neo he 550

:toast:

[Burdman]

never underestimate the inefficiency of code :DQTF ...there's a huge difference from getting a code that makes something happen, and getting one that does it with the fewest lines.

Anyway, on to my hopeful specs.

MOBO:: (undecided.. maybe ASUS with whatever chipset looks to be the best)
CPU:: E6600
RAM:: 2x1gb pc8000
GPU:: x1900xt (or better depending on what's out and what mood I'm in)
PSU:: OCZ Powerstream 520W

I won't be buying until late Q4'06 for various reason, so I'll have plently of time to figure out what chipset runs well and see if the next generation of GPUs are worth buying (or make the current ones dirt cheap).

This surely will be a massive upgrade from my P4 2.6 northwood, I knew there was a good reason I was waiting till I couldn't stand it any more to upgrade, I'm going to have some fun with conroe :D.

[Blacklash]

Hmm I wonder which ASUS nforce board will support Conroe. Perhaps one with the new nforce 5.

[GoldenTiger]

Who thinks an mATX motherboard for Conroe will be available at or near the time of Conroe's launch?

[GoldenTiger]

I'm thinking I'll wait till a little closer in to sell off my CPU/Mobo/RAM... just gotta hope there aren't any X2 3800+ price cuts in the meantime of any significance!

[flakpyro]

im thinking about the Bad Axe board myself, though i tend to lean towards stability over mad OCing. Last thing i want is a hiccup during a heated BF2 match :)

[GoldenTiger]

im thinking about the Bad Axe board myself, though i tend to lean towards stability over mad OCing. Last thing i want is a hiccup during a heated BF2 match :)

Yeah, I know the feeling... I still clock high for fun, but then find a very stable setting so my everyday usage and gaming don't crash on me ever due to the overclock :). The last thing I want is a crash during a round of fun :D !Overclocking to me is having fun and then getting more for your money out of the CPU, not a competition to be the fastest in the world at all costs, stability be damned :). However, both ways are valid if you ask me :cool: .

[jumanji969]

These Conroes sure look exciting, I can't wait to see what unfolds this summer.

[Bennah]

No idea, what board, cpu and ram to get... Let you all have a play around then I will make up my mind :D

Intresting too see FUGGER using next gen ATi Chipset. That could well be the one to get.

Glad that 4GB also works...

[Skyline GT-R]

Mine will be something like this:

CPU: Core 2 Duo E6600
MB: 975X, maybe the Bad Axe, don't know yet, or maybe the Asus or the Abit
RAM: 2x1GB PC2-6400
GPU: XFX 7600GT xXx (standing next to me.. darn AGP board I have atm)
PSU: Enermax Liberty 500W (500W should be enough)

[Tasselhof]

E6600 + 7900GT + mobo ???
all other, i hope, will be enough from my current rig

[charlie]

Me personally I'm thinking:

E6700 (need the high multi)

1) Vapo LS - Black with PC65B case

2) XXX Motherboard

3) Memory... some good PC8000, Maybe OCZ Extreme Stuff if available... or the Patriot XBLK PC8000

4) PSU, I like the new Mushkin 650W unit...

5) 2 x X1900XTX

[\Karting_freak]

@charlie
mushkin to supply 2 x1900? FAR NOT ENOUGH

[charlie]

@charlie
mushkin to supply 2 x1900? FAR NOT ENOUGH

OK, you twisted my arm... PC Power and Cooling 1K :D then!

[railer]

OK, you twisted my arm... PC Power and Cooling 1K :D then!
Damn electricity bill will get more expensive. I know here in NY the cost of electricity came up like 50% im payin $130 for 1 bdr aprtment and its not summer out:( Last monts when i used my chiller bill was $180. I'm afraid to think what it will be when il turn on two of my hoem AC units and the damn chiller:rolleyes:

[charlie]

If I have a Conroe/Vapo/Crossfire rig I think I'll turn it OFF when I'm away...that's a bit too hungry for 24/7!

[Absolute_0]

Heh

Nice sig btw charlie.

I feel a presence, something i've not felt since... Northwood.

The dark side might be stronger ;)

[lowfat]

Heh

Nice sig btw charlie.

I feel a presence, something i've not felt since... Northwood.

The dark side might be stronger ;)

ahahaha. Awesome analogy.

[XS Janus]

Ummm... Conroe shortage I foresee, high markups all around. Search for best offers we must.:p:

On the more serious side I WANT to see what ATI and Nvidia will offer in their chipsets, but I doubt I will travel down that road again.
Allmost every time I save a couple of bucks on a non Intel chipset I got burned by some stupid incompatibility down the road. :slapass:
I'm sure they will have all the fancy names for their "super" features who buys into that anyway:nono:

[desolator]

Sorry for the bump

But i was just wondering, how much will a conroe (e6600) with a decent board (asus, intel bad axe, dfi) and good memory come to be?
In the us tht is ofcourse

[vapb400]

I will be going with

1) Conroe E6700 2.66 with Chilly1 SS for 24/7, aluminum mousepot for benching, maybe XE if it is clocking alot higher and if it has unlocked multis.

2) DFI/Asus 975X or R600 Motherboard

3) Single X1900XTX (X1950XTX if that is out?) cooled by VF-900 or whatever air cooler is best at the time, cooled by Chilly1 SS for benching. Maybe something cheaper until DX10 hits.

4) 2GB of good DDR2, depends what is out when Conroe launches.

5) Sparkle 550w PSU (36A single rail goodness for cheap) or maybe Mushkin PSU

Working on designing up a solid copper CPU/VGA LN2 containers to make it really fly. :)

[Vric]

Mobo: Probably Asus P5B Deluxe (965x) or any 975 if there is a small difference price wise.

Conroe: Model E6600

Cooling: Stock**

Ram: Surely OCZ. Probably 1GB DDR800 XT (good value)

Videocard: 7600GT or 7900GT. I have to think about future DX10. a small price drop on the 7900GT would help.

PSU: This is an unknown thing. I was for a Thermaltake, but look like people don't like this. ( I have a 420W for 3 year without problem, but..)

** My computer case is a Silverstone TJ06. 2 120mm fan push and pull air in a tunnel only for the ram and CPU. In my test, it dropped the temp of 3C to 5C. Maybe will buy something other, but I don'T think the Conroe is a very "hot" chip.

Still an over $1000 upgrade.

[k0nsl]

1. Conroe XE
2. DFI 975X or R600, possibly both
3. X1900 Crossfire
4. 1GB PC8000
5. Trusty old Tagan 580W for main system and 500W of undecided brand for CF setup

All watercooled in CM Stacker 803 or Lian Li Cube.

That is probably what my rig will be like. Does somebody have any definitive details as to when Conroe will be available in retail?

My current rig will be retired as server :)

-k0nsl

[Owen1978]

I'll be going for E6600

I want to go the MATX route, any know any MATX mobo's heading this way?
Going to water cool it in a Temjin TJ08 Case, aiming for a silent, small but deadly build!

[vapb400]

Core 2 Duo S775 (i865/965/946) 'Conroe':
DFI CFX1150/G *
MSI Q965M *
Gigabyte GA-946ZM-S2 *
Gigabyte GA-965GM-S2 *
ASUS P5B-VM *
ASrock 775Twins-HDTV Rev.2 *
ASrock 775i65G *

Those are all the mATX boards

Thanks to hardforum.com

[mtzki]

1) DFI RD600
2) EE or E6700, whichever i get first
3) Vapo LS, watercooling for GPUs
4) 2*1GB OCZ PC2-8000 EE
5) X1900 CF
6) Tagan 1.1kW + Antec 480W (pump, fans, HDDs)...overkill i know

Only missing mobo and Conroe. Just sitting and waiting... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... :yepp:

Does somebody have any definitive details as to when Conroe will be available in retail?

And can anyone even confirm that EE will be out first? The DailyTech news item (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2170) gave a link to a roadmap from February...and this has no mention of Conroe EE. Can't find any confirmation from Intel web pages either. ISTM the first E6xxx versions are the only ones out before August.