Best air cooling heatsink

[mcvigo]

On a dfi ultra d which of these or suggest others
Thermaltake big typhoon
Thermalright xp120
Thermaltake beetle(heard good things)

[HousERaT]

Big Typhoon hands down. Other options are the Tuniq Tower and the Skythe Ninja.

[Thrilla]

I believe there's a new heatsink that pwns them, argh can't remember it off my head, it's some not-so-famous company in Austria.

[celemine1Gig]

I believe there's a new heatsink that pwns them, argh can't remember it off my head, it's some not-so-famous company in Austria.

Noctua ;)

[jmke]

Tuniq Tower 120 with active high/medium speed fan - http://www.madshrimps.be/gotoartik.php?articID=419

[Houdini]

Tuniq is the best air cooler on the marked imo, after tuniq then schyte and noctua, zamlan etc.

[Serra]

Thought I'd just mention one thing though as you make your decision. That's that the BT also happens to cool down memory and caps, due to it's shoving the air down. If you plan to OC heavily and choose a tower model, I would suggest investing some money in cooling soultions for those. I know I personally saw an increase of over 10 degrees when I stopped using my Big Typhoon on my caps and that my memory OC had become *slightly* more limited as well. Not that I would have really minded... but it didn't OC well in the first place.

Serra

[Makubex_GB]

Thought I'd just mention one thing though as you make your decision. That's that the BT also happens to cool down memory and caps, due to it's shoving the air down. If you plan to OC heavily and choose a tower model, I would suggest investing some money in cooling soultions for those. I know I personally saw an increase of over 10 degrees when I stopped using my Big Typhoon on my caps and that my memory OC had become *slightly* more limited as well. Not that I would have really minded... but it didn't OC well in the first place.

Serra
Serra took the words out of my mouth. I also would recommend the TT Big Typhoon or the Thermalright SI-120, because not only they both perform extremely well, the fan on them also cools down the components around the cpu. :thumbsup:

[mcvigo]

yea i dont need to have the best of all i just need it to be high end, i like the thermalrights because you put whatever fan you like and it small and slight. Typhoon is big but can cool your everything around it. I dont really like those huge tower. Will these perform similar to a decent water cooling. I want to cut down load on my x2 with a/c on and very low room temp it idles at 34 but loads at 55 while priming both cores. I have increased the voltage from 1.36 to 1.39 but if i want to give more bolts like 1.45 dual priming will be around 60 so i need better cooling. Which would be better a xp 120 with 80 cfm fan or tt typhoon

[lawrywild]

yea i dont need to have the best of all i just need it to be high end, i like the thermalrights because you put whatever fan you like and it small and slight. Typhoon is big but can cool your everything around it. I dont really like those huge tower. Will these perform similar to a decent water cooling. I want to cut down load on my x2 with a/c on and very low room temp it idles at 34 but loads at 55 while priming both cores. I have increased the voltage from 1.36 to 1.39 but if i want to give more bolts like 1.45 dual priming will be around 60 so i need better cooling. Which would be better a xp 120 with 80 cfm fan or tt typhoon

I can vouch for xp-90c :)

it's small, easy to install and VERY good.

priming my X2 in a hot, small, closed case @ 1.55 only reaches 46'C..

1.4v loads around 39 :D

[HousERaT]

yea i dont need to have the best of all i just need it to be high end, i like the thermalrights because you put whatever fan you like and it small and slight. Typhoon is big but can cool your everything around it. I dont really like those huge tower. Will these perform similar to a decent water cooling. I want to cut down load on my x2 with a/c on and very low room temp it idles at 34 but loads at 55 while priming both cores. I have increased the voltage from 1.36 to 1.39 but if i want to give more bolts like 1.45 dual priming will be around 60 so i need better cooling. Which would be better a xp 120 with 80 cfm fan or tt typhoon
One cooler you haven't mentioned which I think deserves consideration is the Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro. It's the cheapest one of the lot and cools almost as well as a Big Typhoon. Not really much to mod with it but it doesn't need modding. Very quiet also.

[RPGWiZaRD]

Whatever cooler you choose, Big Typhoon, Noctua, Scythe Ninja, Tuniq, Zalman 9500, Arctic Cooling 64 Freezer Pro, XP90C they are all damn good, you wouldn't have to worry tempwise. It's hard to make any really fair review of all these coolers which is the best one since they perform different in different conditions and have different advantages/disadvantages, they have different noise lvl & price and some can be modded for better result than others etc.

I like my Big Typhoon for price/noise lvl/performance combo. Some ppl doesn't mind noise, some doesn't mind the price so much etc, but I do. I lapped it, used AS5 and remounted 5 times for best result. It's one of the more silent competitors (which should be included in a fair review, I mean rated 16dB Big Typhoon, my guess around 20dB, vs Tuniq with a delta fan 50dB or sth isn't a fair comparision and neither pricewise).

I have 8x case fans since Big Typhoon likes good airflow, and it performs amazingly well, SD3700+ @ 2.7GHz 1.65V gives 29 - 30C idle temp and 43 - 44C prime temp, stock speeds 26 - 27C idle and 36C prime. Couldn't be more happy, bought it for $50 back in august last year, today I could get it for $40, very good bang-for-the-buck cooler but Freezer Pro also looks good for it's price and Tuniq Tower is only slightly expensier than Typhoon. Ninja & Noctua, XP90c doesn't even come with a fan, making them expensive. :)

If I had to make a Top5 list of my fav coolers it would be: 1st: Big Typhoon, 2nd: Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro, 3rd: Tuniq Tower, 4th: Noctua NH-U 12, 5th: Scythe Ninja. When taking into account price, noise lvl, performance and modability.

[jmke]

Serra took the words out of my mouth. I also would recommend the TT Big Typhoon or the Thermalright SI-120, because not only they both perform extremely well, the fan on them also cools down the components around the cpu. :thumbsup:

actually, by blowing hot air onto the motherboard the components (PWM area, memory, chipset) heat up more because of it...

[Serra]

actually, by blowing hot air onto the motherboard the components (PWM area, memory, chipset) heat up more because of it...

Blowing HOT air would cause them to heat up more, however the air that comes off of the heatsinks in question is often much cooler than the components themselves. As such, the air is able to effectively cool them down. When you consider that a processor can be held at a stable 30 degrees, and some of the outlying components may be 50 degrees, you will find a huge differential that makes it worth using this already warmed up air.

Serra

[SamHughe]

I like my tuniq tower. It improved load temps 5C comparing with SI-120.

It's a big BIG boy though. Check these out:

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/4369/compareson0dx.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=compareson0dx.jpg)

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/9481/inthecase12rd.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=inthecase12rd.jpg)

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/6006/inthecase21xe.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=inthecase21xe.jpg)

[Nanometer]

That barilly fits. Looks like a good fit though, it looks like all the hot air is flushed out.

[Makubex_GB]

actually, by blowing hot air onto the motherboard the components (PWM area, memory, chipset) heat up more because of it...
LoL, I knew it was just a matter of time before someone posted this nonsense! :lol:

Like Serra said, if the was HOT air then it would be true, but the air coming out of the bottom of the heatsink will never be as hot as the components on the mobo. :rolleyes:

[r3w4]

yea i dont need to have the best of all i just need it to be high end, i like the thermalrights because you put whatever fan you like and it small and slight. Typhoon is big but can cool your everything around it. I dont really like those huge tower. Will these perform similar to a decent water cooling. I want to cut down load on my x2 with a/c on and very low room temp it idles at 34 but loads at 55 while priming both cores. I have increased the voltage from 1.36 to 1.39 but if i want to give more bolts like 1.45 dual priming will be around 60 so i need better cooling. Which would be better a xp 120 with 80 cfm fan or tt typhoon
If you want some kind of water cooling performance that's not 100 dB, you'd have to go with the Tuniq Tower. The problem with those HSFs that direct airflow onto the cpu is that they're harder to install. As long you have good airflow in your case, you don't need a fan directed at the MB components.

[shaolin95]

As far as my research shows, the Tuniq seems to be the top dog now doing about 2C better than the Ninja which comes in second place.

[jmke]

LoL, I knew it was just a matter of time before someone posted this nonsense! :lol:

Like Serra said, if the was HOT air then it would be true, but the air coming out of the bottom of the heatsink will never be as hot as the components on the mobo. :rolleyes:

tsssss :slap:

how many hours did you test to verify the difference?
I used ~100 HSF for a total test time well over 500 hours before stating what I stated.

:fact:

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=419


check PWM temps Scythe Shogun (tower) vs XP-120 with same fan:
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8273/heatsinksroundupq42005holidaye.th.png (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=heatsinksroundupq42005holidaye.png)

note that MY TESTS are done in a LOW AIRFLOW case - if you have AMPLE caseflow (large 120mm fans blasting away) you'll have good temps no matter what CPU cooler

When it comes down to Scythe Ninja / Tuniq Tower / Big Typhoon / SI-120 here are my results - all tested with the same fan

Name -- CPU°C -- PWM°C

Ninja --------- 59 - 65
Tower 120 ---- 57 - 58
Big Typhoon --- 62 - 67
SI-120 -------- 62 - 66

Ambient temp is ~22°C
Case is Sonata II from Antec with 1x120mm@5v in the rear, and a PASSIVELY cooled PSU at the top, VGA card is low-end TNT2 passively cooled.

[shaolin95]

The thing to note is that the Ninja fan orientation can vary so when I had my dfi nf3 I had the fan blowing up thus my pwm was very cold as well. That tower looks great too.

[ugp]

ThermalTake Big Typhoon.

[Clay]

XP90's are cheap and they work pretty good. Works well enough for me.(Til' summer) But the 92mm "Vantec Tornado" fan,I use to keep it cool enough kinda' annoy's others.(Maybe they'll help me finance a solution.) Currently 80f room 84f (29-30c)surfin'.(Idle sorta')@2.8ghz 280X10,1-1,Vid=1.325*110 (24/7) It hasen't loaded up past 42c that I can recall at these settin's. It's okay I guess for now anyway. OK a Quick 32m superpi so we know for sure. AC set for 80f. Side off the case 32m superpi. Seems to be stayin' @38c(100f) It's touched on 41c twice.(but allways backed back down to 38c during the load) Never stayed that high. So full load currently we can safely call it between 38-41c.(@80f) On my rig anyway. 90% of the time was 38c though. The cool off after load is alarmingly instant! Hehe good lil' sink for the $$$$. Plus an old Tornado offa' onea' my ol' nf2's work's good I'm pleased. LOL
Edit: The Vantec Tornado pull's air off the memory-mosfets-heatsink,ect and blow's it into the room.(Seems to work backwards from other fans)
Edit2: Because the fan is held in by spring clips it's easy to clean.

[WC Annihilus]

Keep in mind for the BT about clearance with the side of your case. It can hamper performance by quite a bit. Here's my findings: http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.php?type=3&id=41&page=1&desc=thermaltake_big_typhoon

Course, my stuff is in a Raidmax case that isn't exactly the widest thing around. Still, something to keep in mind

[AgentVX]

Keep in mind for the BT about clearance with the side of your case. It can hamper performance by quite a bit. Here's my findings: http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.php?type=3&id=41&page=1&desc=thermaltake_big_typhoon

Course, my stuff is in a Raidmax case that isn't exactly the widest thing around. Still, something to keep in mind

Interesting point. Most ATX cases would have around the same width as yours too, no?

[jmke]

but the 92mm "Vantec Tornado" fan,I use to keep it cool enough kinda' annoy's other

no sh*t ;) with that fan it doesn't matter what heatsink you use, even a small piece of ALU is enough with that amount of airflow.

[biohead]

no sh*t ;) with that fan it doesn't matter what heatsink you use, even a small piece of ALU is enough with that amount of airflow.
a fan just blows the air away that the heatsink releases. heatsink = biggest role.

[jmke]

*zucht* ... if you strap a delta/vantec to any old heatsink it will perform like crazy. fact.

[shaolin95]

thats NO fact at all my friend. I have a 156cfm delta and my temps would be the same if I used a stock HS instead of my Ninja... If it was the same then must of us here are really stupid spending money on HS when the key was the fan. Have you check HS reviews and comparisons... wouldnt that mean that with the same fan all HS will perform the same? Lets separate fact from fiction here as there are way too many myths already regarding computers as to start creating new ones...
Regards

[Nazu]

How is the Zalman 9500 compared to the other coolers mentioned in this thread?

[humeyboy]

I dont see buying a better heatsink as stupid, we dont all want to go deaf using them PIA loud delta fans, If I can cool my amd 32bit mobile at 2750mhz(500fsb) with a TT Silentcat120mm (16db) it must be cause my TT-BT is so good.

[biohead]

*zucht* ... if you strap a delta/vantec to any old heatsink it will perform like crazy. fact.
well why dont u back up ur fact..

no improvement:60cfm vs 220cfm on a big typhoon. yea, maybe 2 degrees, but that's it.

*zucht* belg.

[Tasselhof]

I have tried titan vanessa L, TT BT & Scythe Ninja on my rig
Best results with Scythe Ninja (and it real likes high cfm)
Second - TT BT(there is no real difference in temps between 1400 and 2000 rpm fans...only noise)
Third - Titan Vanessa L (but it has less compatibility issues than others).

But i think that TT BT is very good solution for price/noise/value, especialy if you can polish them and solder heatpipes+base...

[Serra]

How is the Zalman 9500 compared to the other coolers mentioned in this thread?

While I don't have any specific numbers to toss out comparison-wise, the 9500 is generally a lesser competitor against the big guys like the BT, Ninja, etc. It's certainly better than a stock cooler, but it's more of a mid-range performer.

Serra

[RPGWiZaRD]

Madshrimps CPU heatsink roundup review is very nice, many well hours spent there and nice that PWM temps were included.

However it would yet be interesting to see a review with a system with 2x120mm as intake and 1x120mm (back) 1x92mm (top) exhaust (CM Stacker/TT Armor case for example) or similiar, all at 12V if it's silent ~16 - 23dB rated fans or 5V if high rpm fans are used, to see how they compare to each other then, I'm pretty sure the gap would be much smaller between the topend coolers and perhaps a few suprising results. Honestly, how many ppl here that uses aircooling setup use only 1x120mm fan at 5v as their case cooling, prolly less than 5%.

Why 4 case fans? cuz that's very common amount of case fans people with aircooling setup use, and 4 case fans can still keep the system very quiet depending on fans and 12V or 5V. According to a poll I saw recently 4 case fans was most commonly used and a few ppl used even 9+. Myself have 8x silent case fans @ 12V and would never plan to use less than 4 in an aircooling setup. Then it would give a clear picture of which coolers perform better in bad & good airflow. Also a big chart with noise level, pwm temp and cpu temp at an overclocked speed would be interesting but yea this is a lotta work. I would gladly do it myself if only some1 sponsored and shipped the heatsinks to me. :D

[Nephilim]

tsssss :slap:

how many hours did you test to verify the difference?
I used ~100 HSF for a total test time well over 500 hours before stating what I stated.


I would like to see the motherboard temperatures measured directly using an IR thermometer rather than the sensor in the PWM chip which is only ONE of the many components there, and rather inaccurate in my experience.

The layout of the DFI NF3 250Gb really doesn't give large diameter conventional flowing heatsinks much advantage, whereas DFI NF4 & Expert series do, as most hot components are spread around the CPU and the main mosphets have heatsinks on these newer boards.

The scientific fact, that cannot be changed, is that blowing air that is cooler than the components over said components, will lower their temperature.

[Nazu]

I bought the 9500 Zalman from a finish hardware forum :) According to quite many reviews it's pretty damn good.

[safan80]

On a dfi ultra d which of these or suggest others
Thermaltake big typhoon
Thermalright xp120
Thermaltake beetle(heard good things)

get the SI-120 it's the updated version of the xp-120.

[mcvigo]

I heard xp 90 c and all of those are good with single core but not with dual core, the guy recommended me big typhoon or tuniq tower 120.

[yuckfou]

from my experience, xp90c can outperform big typhoon.

[mcvigo]

it might with a huge and loud cfm fan but i think 2 or 3 degrees tops, plus the xp 90 is a pretty ugly heatsink since you only see a fan on top. The big typhoon is more good looking but i think none has the looks as a tuniq tower

[raju]

I bought the 9500 Zalman from a finish hardware forum :) According to quite many reviews it's pretty damn good.


Best performance I've managed to squeeze from mine is about 6 degrees celsius under lapped stock cooler under full load. Stock fan 52 degrees Zalman 47 degrees.. I thiink the mounting mechanism lets it down for socket 939, it's always a little loose.

Raja

[r3w4]

The XP120 is outdated. It's better just to get a XP90 if you have single core or Big Typhoon dual core if you like those type of HSFs.

[mcvigo]

i really didnt like tower until i meat the tuniq tower 120 and its cooling capabilities, those who own it, how does it perform with an upgraded fan and also does it look cool with a led or uv fan inside, How can i make it perform even better

[BigDov]

I'm still happy with my Arctic Cooling Freezer64 Pro that I acquired for 25 bucks..... quiet enough for me and cools really well *shrugs*

[jmke]

1) how does it perform with an upgraded fan
2) also does it look cool with a led or uv fan inside,
3) How can i make it perform even better

1) the included fan at High speed is quite high end already no need to swap it out IMHO
2) does it matter? do you look at your PC monitor or at the inside of your case when you are behind your keyboard?
3) ducting, with cardboard set up ducts to direct airflow towards the rear of your case

[ShaneHm2]

I like my tuniq tower. It improved load temps 5C comparing with SI-120.

It's a big BIG boy though. Check these out:

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/4369/compareson0dx.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=compareson0dx.jpg)

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/9481/inthecase12rd.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=inthecase12rd.jpg)

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/6006/inthecase21xe.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=inthecase21xe.jpg)
thats one crazy heatsink, do u get much bending on the board when in the case or not and have u tried mounting another 2 x 120mm on each side of the heatsink

[mcvigo]

i dont think it will bend if your mobo is screwed correctly and you dont move case a lot.

Please answer my question, will it have problems with a gigabyte board a k8nsc, my friend wants 1 too?

[ElAguila]

I heard xp 90 c and all of those are good with single core but not with dual core, the guy recommended me big typhoon or tuniq tower 120.

Not true. I have a system with an x2 3800 oc'd right now and the xp-90c keeps it at a very nice temp while under load.

[jmke]

XP-90C will only keep your CPU cool if you have excellent airflow inside your case; in a low airflow case the Tuniq Tower 120 will excell.

[grimREEFER]

scythe ninija is pretty good, i think its the best all around

[Reefa_Madness]

scythe ninija is pretty good, i think its the best all around

Hey man...are we related somehow? :D

grimREEFER meets Reefa_Madness

[wa77ss]

Tuniq Tower > All

And I have a XP-90c as we speak. Cools my 930D @ a miserable 54/70c

[jmke]

Tuniq Tower > All


if you for complete passive CPU cooling the Ninja will take a nice lead over the Tower;

with active cooling the Tower is slightly better

[xerogenesis]

whys noone talking about the stock opteron cooler? has anyone actualyl tried lapping it? replacing the thermal compound? replacing the fan? even without replacing the fan and turning cool n quiet off and then setting in the bios to have fan full on when over 25*C you will yeild surprising results. this is coming from someone who went from a stock hsf to xp-90c to stock hs panaflo fan

[jmke]

whys noone talking about the stock opteron cooler?

most likely because once you start overclocking and you DONT WANT A NOISY PC, you have to switch to a 3rd party solution; that 4-heat pipe small copper block heatsink can only remove so much heat quietly;

[Nazu]

Actually the better boxed cooler that comes with FX cpus and dual core models up from 4200+ is quite good. It was reviewed at some site which name I don't remember but it wasn't far from XP90 in performance.

[jmke]

"some site" hihi check link in my signature and also notice the nick and the author/editor field:
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=9&artpage=1656&articID=406
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=399

:D

[HousERaT]

Actually the better boxed cooler that comes with FX cpus and dual core models up from 4200+ is quite good. It was reviewed at some site which name I don't remember but it wasn't far from XP90 in performance.
no matter what you think it's still a 80mm heatsink. 92mm & 120mm heatsinks will be able to do the same job quieter and in many cases better. I'm not saying it's a bad cooler, it's just not extreme...... unless of course you have it mounted on your videocard.:D

[Nazu]

no matter what you think it's still a 80mm heatsink. 92mm & 120mm heatsinks will be able to do the same job quieter and in many cases better. I'm not saying it's a bad cooler, it's just not extreme...... unless of course you have it mounted on your videocard.:D
I was trying to say that it's good for a boxed cooler. Ofcourse there are better aftermarket solutions like TT BT, SI120, Zalman 9500....

[HousERaT]

I was trying to say that it's good for a boxed cooler. Ofcourse there are better aftermarket solutions like TT BT, SI120, Zalman 9500....
Indeed, one of the best boxed coolers I've ever seen. However the thread title is "Best air cooling heatsink" and the AMD heatpipe, as good as it is shouldn't even be mentioned in that category. Xerogenesis was asking why no one mentioned it. My response was addressed to both of you although I didn't address him/her directly. Sorry for my confusion.

[zakelwe]

The Scythe is easier to fit than the BT that's for sure. Both perform well. The Artic Cooling is on my Fx-55 at the moment and it is doing the job well for a games machine and is quiet --and dirt cheap.

To be honest there is a lot of choice now of great air coolers, we never had it so good. When heatpipes came out I laughed and thought they were just a gimick ..how wrong I was. With heatpipes and manufacturters not worrying about size now it is a real nice time to get a good air cooled heatsink. They are starting to catch up with watercooling and along with cheapish phase putting the pinch on the liquid coolers to some extent.

Regards
Andy

[mcvigo]

does tuniq tower bring back plate for 939 , does it work fine with gigabyte mobos for my friend.

[Marlowe]

No backplate in the package.. you use the standard one. I can't speculate if it will fit but I bet it will.

It's the best aircooler availible today, end of discussion :)

[jmke]

well why dont u back up ur fact..

no improvement:60cfm vs 220cfm on a big typhoon. yea, maybe 2 degrees, but that's it.

*zucht* belg.

dude; it doesn't matter where I'm from, don't be an :slapass: and try to act as if nationality has anything to do with what/why I posted.

here's the FACT : http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=12&artpage=1292&articID=224
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=4&artpage=701&articID=181

now 60CFM is already a lot and that fan is not really silent compared to a low noise 120mm which only pushes <30CFM.

if you already have 60CFM fan strapped to the BT you are close to achieving maximum cooling performance, increasing it 4xfold will not give you the expected performance increase. the performance bottoms out, however at those HIGH fan speeds the difference between different heatsinks will be SO SMALL it doesn't matter which heatsink you have, the performance will be stellar because you are pushing that much air through the heatsink fins...

I applaud the fact you have a 220CFM 120mm fan, but you can't say it really enjoyable to hear it spin ;)


keep it cool, Dutchie!



@Marlowe; if you have only a plastic mobo bracket on the K8 motherboard, I strongly suggest to find a metal one, the cooler is close to 1kg and you don't want that to break off:)

[biohead]

I actually got the 220 vs stock fan TTBT from someone else on these forums. His temps even went up a little with the 220, which probably was caused by a higher room temperature.
No way im gonna get 60dB in my room. Ive had a tornado for 2 years running at full speed. Have now got a completely new setup and its dead silent, love it.
Anyways, sure CFM is a good factor when it comes to cooling, but what you're saying is that an SI-120 vs TTBT, both with a 220cfm fan would give almost similar results. I doubt it. Sure the SI-120 will perform good. But material, base and amount of heatpipes play a big role too. Transfering the heat from the base up to the fins is part one. Part two is where the fins get cooled down by the fan. And copper does a well better job than aluminium in tranfering heat.

lawl.

[jmke]

but what you're saying is that an SI-120 vs TTBT, both with a 220cfm fan would give almost similar results. I doubt it.

that is in fact exactly what I'm saying more than 3°C difference you won't see:)

[xerogenesis]

most likely because once you start overclocking and you DONT WANT A NOISY PC, you have to switch to a 3rd party solution; that 4-heat pipe small copper block heatsink can only remove so much heat quietly;

I have a panaflo M1A on my stock hs and it works nicely :D oced to 2.9 with it so far has NEVER hit the 50*C mark

and i dunno about how silent u want ur pc but 35.5 db isnt killing my ears

[jmke]

where do you get the "30.5db" value from?

[Nazu]

Today I installed the Zalman 9500 and man did it suck, temps at idle were 50 and in load 68 until it crashed. That was 3.8GHz at stock volts and the Zalman was at minium rpm setting. Cpu at 3.0GHz same thing :( Now back with the boxed cooler and better temps. I'm selling this and getting a better cooler and I would like to know is the Sonic Tower good. I have Antec tri speed 120mm fan that I would install to it.

edit: The base of the heatsink looked flat but I was wrong.

[tHe_jOkeR]

i have the TT BT with a 110cfm fan 35°C +11 full load@ 1,36V

[Nazu]

i have the TT BT with a 110cfm fan 35°C +11 full load@ 1,36V
Nice but I didn't ask how the BT performs rather the Sonic Tower. So everyone who has this cooler please post some results or tell me is it any good.

[mcvigo]

dont know much about it but heatpipe coolers most are good, instead of that get the tuniq tower which is arguable the best air cooling heatsink.

[humeyboy]

Only because its so big, not exactly rocket science in its making, base is worste Ive ever seen, looks like it could be used to grate cheese, If big is cooler then WTF is the limit ? 1mm gap from side panel on case, or cut a blowhole in side panel not for a fan but to let a cooler stick out LOL :-P
I stick to my TT-BT thanks :)

[xerogenesis]

sry i meant to type 35.5

[mcvigo]

depends if you have a small case, for me is no trouble plus i get better cooling, and better looks for even better price. The tuniq costs 48 and i think tt costs 55

[Navig]

Just thought I'd inject some of my actual numbers here.

Thread here. (http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?t=103462)


Summary graph:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v363/navig/XP120%20Ninja%20Tuniq/Overall2.jpg


Testing was done on an OPEN rig, so plenty of fresh air delivery. Some things I'll note:

1) Among the range of 25mm fans, the Tuniq Tower and TTBT seemed to perform the best

2) The TTBT continued to improve significantly with larger fans

3) The Scythe did not seem to improve as much with larger fans

4) XP120, even lapped, definitely falling behind in performance.


navig

[MaSell]

Scythe ninja ;)

[TrancëJay]

What about TT Mini-Typhoon and Alligator 1200CU+?

What is the difference between Scythe SCMN-1000 and Scythe SCNJ-1000P?

[neoplan]

i like scythe Ninja+Vantec tornado :p:

[mcvigo]

i bought my tuniq at amazon so i will give you heads up. Hopefully will reach 2.8 on my rig

[SamHughe]

I strapped 220cfm delta fan to my Si-120 (see here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=92731) . It improved my load temps but the noise was simply too much for desktop use.

Tuniq w/ 64cfm silen-x fan (my current setup) gives me the same load temps with si-120 w/ 220cfm delta fan setup. Too bad the Delta fan won't fit in to the tuniq ;)

[mcvigo]

i find the tuniq best of all and thats way it won my heart and has the looks too. big typhoo is the other option but i rather have tuniq because it looks better in my opinion and beats the typhoon. Typhoon is more silent but tuniq is very silent + has a controller.

[SaFrOuT]

i find the tuniq best of all and thats way it won my heart and has the looks too. big typhoo is the other option but i rather have tuniq because it looks better in my opinion and beats the typhoon. Typhoon is more silent but tuniq is very silent + has a controller.

from ur words i udnerstand that u used both, can u tell us the diff in load temp between both fo them on the same system ?

[Nazu]

Now I ordered TT BT and some AS5 :) Let's see how these perform.

[RPGWiZaRD]

Now I ordered TT BT and some AS5 :) Let's see how these perform.

You shouldn't be dissapointed,TT Big Typhoon slightly lapped (org fan) + AS5. Please disregard the SD3700+ clock, there's a wall @ only ~2.7GHz no matter volt/cpu multi/ram settings. This is what I did sometimes during winter, SD3700+ @ 1.71v (1.72v in BIOS):
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/613/clipboard023dp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Nazu]

Now I've had the BT for couple of days and it seems to be better than the Zalman, but not that much. 3.8GHz@stock voltages and idle temp is about 48 and load 63 and the Antec 3 speed fan set to medium which produces more airflow than the BT's stock fan. Fan at low speed=1200rpm and temps at idle 50 and load after 5min prime 67 :( Is it possible that didn't tighten the bolts enough? The installation of this cooler was PITA with those little bolts and I had to use pliers to tighten the bolts.

[Navig]

I'd expect some better temps--my testing was done with an overvolted Prescott.

1) I'd recommend running to your local hardware store, I picked up M3 wingnuts or kurl nuts, makes life so much easier.

2) Make sure the fan is getting decent fresh air delivery, or consider swiching to suck.

navig

[mcvigo]

i can only campare tuniq to a zalman 7000 alcu, it will beat the crap outta of it.

[Nazu]

I'm thinking about getting a new case. Now I have Antec SLK3000B with two Nexus 120mm fans and the case gets hot as hell :mad: I think it's cos the 5 hd's are heating the chassis of the case a lot and the psu is very hot too. It's pretty cramped with all the wiring of the psu and I can barely fit my hd's to the case and cool them.

[SaFrOuT]

just today got the typhoon for a friend of mine

i can say that it is more than awesome , decreased his laod temp on an opty from 47 using stock heatsink to 39C

also ya it is 800gram but the wieght is centered @ the block itself so it is mroe than safe for the mobo not like the Tower112 for example where the wieght was focused @ the fins and i was very careful with it not to break my mobo

so yes i do recommand the Typhoona and nothing else for the most important factors

[1] one fo the best h/s in the market for perfromance beside the Tuniq tower
[2]Silent enough to sleep beside it
[3] wieght is not an issue like other h/s
[4] good enough to cool hot dual cores not like the zalman 9500 where it is not good enough for them while it rocks for single core
[5] i like how it looks in the case

[CPLB]

just today got the typhoon for a friend of mine

i can say that it is more than awesome , decreased his laod temp on an opty from 47 using stock heatsink to 39C

also ya it is 800gram but the wieght is centered @ the block itself so it is mroe than safe for the mobo not like the Tower112 for example where the wieght was focused @ the fins and i was very careful with it not to break my mobo

so yes i do recommand the Typhoona and nothing else for the most important factors

[1] one fo the best h/s in the market for perfromance beside the Tuniq tower
[2]Silent enough to sleep beside it
[3] wieght is not an issue like other h/s
[4] good enough to cool hot dual cores not like the zalman 9500 where it is not good enough for them while it rocks for single core
[5] i like how it looks in the case

I think the TTBT is a good heatsink, but to recommend it and nothing else is wrong I think.

1. Scythe Ninja is right up there too!
2. Silence has to do with the fan you choose, my Ninja is completely quite.
3. Weight is an issue, the TTBT is very tall and therefore torques the MB.
4. The Zalman 9500 is generally not considered to be one of the best I think. The Ninja and Tuniq Tower are both in the same league as the BT for dual cores.
5. Looks are a matter of opinion.

Also, my experience with the TTBT was not very good. I use an old Antec Sonota case and it has no cut-out on the side pannel for CPU intake. Because the TTBT is so tall it was almost touching the case! This greatly hindered air flow. My temps were not much better, and switching the fan to suck didn't help much. With the Ninja and the Tower air is not pulled vertically but horizontally, so for my case they were much more effective.

[mcvigo]

I cant wait for my tuniq, couple ?? wHAT can i do so it doesnt break the mobo or bend it?

[Marlowe]

I cant wait for my tuniq, couple ?? wHAT can i do so it doesnt break the mobo or bend it?LOL that won't likely happen :D Just follow the instructions!

I understand people here are trying their best to justify their purchases.. it's always like that.. and I bet I'm like that myself even though I wouldn't like to think so. BUT here I go at it :D

The best performing air cooling heatsink today is the Tuniq Tower120. This is not a matter of taste or anything else, as the results are the only thing that matters when it comes down to this :fact:

The base looks grimm as hell, so lots of potential there for those that wants to fiddle with things like that! And the fan can be controlled between 1000 and 2000 rpm, giving you max performance or the best performing silent air cooled rig availible.. Whatever suits you! Mine is always at 1000 rpm ;)

If you want the best, stop flocking to the Ninja and BT! :nono: :D
With the BigTyphoon this is nearly growing into group mentality!! :eek:

[-aDaM^]

LOL that won't likely happen :D Just follow the instructions!

I understand people here are trying their best to justify their purchases.. it's always like that.. and I bet I'm like that myself even though I wouldn't like to think so. BUT here I go at it :D

The best performing air cooling heatsink today is the Tuniq Tower120. This is not a matter of taste or anything else, as the results are the only thing that matters when it comes down to this :fact:

The base looks grimm as hell, so lots of potential there for those that wants to fiddle with things like that! And the fan can be controlled between 1000 and 2000 rpm, giving you max performance or the best performing silent air cooled rig availible.. Whatever suits you! Mine is always at 1000 rpm ;)

If you want the best, stop flocking to the Ninja and BT! :nono: :D
With the BigTyphoon this is nearly growing into group mentality!! :eek:

pft... Big Typhoon takes the Tuniq bends its over and..... well you can figure out the rest ;)

[higgins]

pft... Big Typhoon takes the Tuniq bends its over and..... well you can figure out the rest ;)

Not according to this review:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/tuniq-tower120_8.html

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/coolers/tuniq-tower120/image005.png

I'm beginning to doubt my tt typhoon... :rolleyes:

[-aDaM^]

Not according to this review:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/tuniq-tower120_8.html

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/coolers/tuniq-tower120/image005.png

I'm beginning to doubt my tt typhoon... :rolleyes:

lol every review I see is different :mad:

[higgins]

lol every review I see is different :mad:

yep, thats true. its pretty hard to compare air coolers, as the results depends on alot of factors. like case and ambient temp.

i would say that the TT typhoon, tuniq tower and ninja play in the same league.

The question is, i would say, if the NH-U12 beats all of them... :rolleyes:

[specofdust]

Sorry if this is a nooby addition. But it seems to me that many of the best results with the TTBT are had after its been lapped. Since the surface seems to be fairly poor in many cases as it's shipped, is it maybe the case that when unlapped it's beaten by quite a few of the HSF's that come with better surfaces, but once lapped edges past them in most cases?

[higgins]

hmm

http://www.virtual-hideout.net/reviews/noctua_U9_U12/index3.shtml

3000+

CPU Cooler Idle Load
Stock 35c 43c
Noctua NH-U9 Fan 34/No Fan 35c Fan 38 /No Fan 40c
Noctua NH-U12 Fan 32/No Fan 34c Fan 36/No Fan 39c
DiamondCool II 33c 39c
Tuniq Tower 120 L31/H30c L37/H35c
Kingwin BigAir 33c 38c

39C load without fan. thats pretty sweet for a passive sink. ok, we're talking bout a stock 3000+, but still, not bad

[mcvigo]

Ok put in my tuniq, got 38c and 44 load with 1.4 volts, of course roomtemp is at 30 or more, with cool room its about 35 idle and 41 load and with room very cool(a/c on more than 9 hours) its 32 and 38 load. Is it working alright, now i dont know if i did it right but i mounted springs below the h bracket thing, when i inserted directly through the springs and then screw into h bracket i couldnt screw it so i did it that way, do you use the screws, in my opinion they are way to hard, tell me your experiences with the tuniq

[macaddict]

Think I'm going with the Scythe MINE 3 this weekend:) It's giving the Ninja a close run and appears to be easy to install without mobo removal.

http://jab-tech.com/product.php?productid=3340

[p360stick]

i didn't know that tower 120 is that good

[Anemone]

Some testing variations occur from vertical cooler mounting rather than horizontal from a vertical motherboard (typical) mounting in a case. Even if not including a case, using the cooler in its normal horizontal position gives a more real indication of temps.

Remember also that Prescotts are going to show a lot more variation in temps than a cooler chip. Conroe is cooler than even AMD, and likely the top 5 coolers will be awfully close to one another.

Ninja is a great cooler but it was designed with a wide spacing high airflow fin design. Therefore just about any fan through it demonstrates it's maximum ability. A very good fan designed cooler with a tighter fin spacing is likely to outdo it, if using a good fan.

If you look at this test, and realize that an overclocked Conroe is likely to be about the same TDP as a normal A64, you begin to realize that the difference in temps on the top coolers is likely to be a degree or two at best.
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=10&artpage=1822&articID=419

But do not doubt for a minute that the tower is very, very good, as you will see in that chart.

[InSanCen]

The Sonic Tower is a good cooler, I have both that and the Big Typhoon... Put an Akasa Amber each side of the Sonic Tower, and you're all good. Put a 190CFM Delta on it, not that much better (38c load on X2-4200 ambient of 29, versus 43c Load, same conditions, all temps taken with Digital Thermometer, 2 hrs loaded).

Big Typhoon is better again (34c), but harder to mount.