$1200 to spend

[Delirious]

building some computers for a lan/cafe, computers need to be able to play games like bf2, cs, maybe fear and the like.

Only thing is the limit is 1200 for EVERYTHING (monitor,os, keyboard etc.....)

just wondering what everyone would get?

Another question? Is it worth getting a x1800xt if the computer has a 3000+ venice and will the venice bottle neck the vid card?

[Reinvented]

1200 doesn't leave you a whole lot for options...especially if you have to build more than 10 computers or such.

There is a Cafe here where I live, and they just bought a bunch of Dell's for around that price. And hey, it works...it's whatever the kids are willing to pay to use it you know? Since they *don't* have that opportunity for such a thing at home.

My advice to you, do the same...especially if you want cheap stuff that will work. Or start scrounging around trade forums and such and see if you can find good deals on Athlon XP machines.

I have a friend that plays on my CS:S server, and he's running an Athlon XP 2100+, 1GB Corsair Value Memory, a 6800 GT, and everything is fine. It's certainly got down in price, but can help you end up in the right direction if enough revenue is generated you know?

Just my 2 cents...

[i found nemo]

i say you take this to socket a's and o/c all the processors to 2.2 ghz that should be doable with some decent ocz ram ... i'm sure one of the guys here could get you a hook up 6600gt's run pretty good too

[vengance_01]

your talking about 1200 per? IMO you don't need much.

Opteron 146 with coupon
Asus/DFI NF4 non SLI
1GB of ram to start
250GB SATA
DVD reader
7600GT
Decent case/cooling/and PSU

[v0dka]

With some budget RAM and motherboard, a mid-range vid card, 17"LCD and small harddrive a Venice 3200+ or 3500+ should be easy to get. You will be able to play all modern day games and leave you with some upgrade oppurtunity, with pci-e etc. where the older stuff doesnt. Buying AXP's is a bad idea, overclocking them for commercial use is even worse.

[sealion]

Motherboard: asrock dual sata 2

New:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813157081

Refurbished:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813157085R

cpu: athlon64 3700
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103539

Video card: Ati X850xt
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102688

Monitor: ACER CRT AS-900-BK
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824002248

Hard drive: western digital 80gb 7200 rpm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144122

Ram: gskill value
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231039

Keyboard: logitech deluxe
http://store.yahoo.com/justdeals/9674470403kb.html

Mouse: Logitech mx300 and 500
http://store.yahoo.com/justdeals/9307620403.html

http://store.yahoo.com/justdeals/9307630403nr.html



The rest is up to you

[Schmetterling]

Something i made up in a hurry for you: http://www.geocities.com/elfownage/shoppingCart.htm

If you play around a bit you'll be able to add the keyboard/mouse aswell :)

- Schmetterling

[faruquehabib]

could get these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16856115021

they come with a free sempron 2800+ through april 30th

[mursaat]

Something i made up in a hurry for you: http://www.geocities.com/elfownage/shoppingCart.htm

If you play around a bit you'll be able to add the keyboard/mouse aswell :)

- SchmetterlingI would change the Venice to a 3000 -> 60$ less
Motherboard to anything not so OCable (ASRock)-> around 40-50$ less


Because your cart is without taxes...

[Schmetterling]

I would change the Venice to a 3000 -> 60$ less
Motherboard to anything not so OCable (ASRock)-> around 40-50$ less


Because your cart is without taxes...

Ah ok, didnt know about that ... i'm dutch and don't exactly know how these american shops do the stuff with prices ;)

- Schmetterling

[mursaat]

I'm spanish, but if the newegg cart says "without taxes" there must be some taxes somewhere :D:D

[Schmetterling]

I'm spanish, but if the newegg cart says "without taxes" there must be some taxes somewhere :D:D

Read my post then,


Something i made up in a hurry for you: http://www.geocities.com/elfownage/shoppingCart.htm

If you play around a bit you'll be able to add the keyboard/mouse aswell

- Schmetterling


Told you i made it in a hurry lol :P back on topic now again ;)

- Schmetterling

[Delirious]

1200 doesn't leave you a whole lot for options...especially if you have to build more than 10 computers or such.Just my 2 cents...

Sorry if i confused anyone, i meant 1200 per computer(x5) including monitor, keyboard and mouse. Here is what i thought of getting.

1 ASUS A8N-E Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: A8N-E


1 COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UB Black /Blue Aluminum Bezel , SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail


1 Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3808110AS 80GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: ST3808110AS

1 Logitech Internet Pro Desktop 967457-0403 Black PS/2 Wired Standard Keyboard Mouse Included - OEM
Model #: 967457-0403


1 Crucial Technology Ballistix 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered System Memory Model BL2KIT6464Z402 - Retail
Model #: BL2KIT6464Z402

1 ViewSonic VX924 Black/Silver 19" 3ms gray-to-gray (avg.); 6ms white-black-white (typ)' LCD Monitor - Retail
Model #: VX924

1 Microsoft Windows XP Professional With SP2 - OEM
Model #: E85-04026

1 FSP Group (Fortron Source) AX500-A, 2.0 version, 2 SATA, PCI Express, 500W - Retail
Model #: AX500-A

1 AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 2000MHz HT Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3000BPBOX - Retail
Model #: ADA3000BPBOX

1 SAPPHIRE 100154L Radeon X1800XT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail

Total: $1215 - $60 in rebates.

The only thing i wasnt sure about was the x1800xt being over kill.

The Ballistix memory for some reason was almost as cheap as the corsair value memory.:eek:

And there is probably close to a 100 in rebates on all that stuff.

[Delirious]

Thx Schmetterling and all for taking time to go through newegg. :)

Something i made up in a hurry for you: http://www.geocities.com/elfownage/shoppingCart.htm

If you play around a bit you'll be able to add the keyboard/mouse aswell :)

- Schmetterling

I like what u have picked out, might even be able to slim it down a little with a cheaper non overclocking mobo.

[JimboJoe43]

If you decide to build the computers yourself you should think about buying items in bulk.

XP PRO OEM 3 PACK - E85-03013 ~$400
XP PRO OEM 10 PACK - E85-0008610LIC ~$1200

Don't buy software from newegg they greatly overcharge. You should be able to find OEM XP discs all over the net for ~$100

You can also contact microsoft directly and let them know that you are a system builder for a business and ask to buy just licenses or see if they will sell you the packs directly at a discount (don't forget to haggle).

Motherboards are another item that would probably be cheaper to buy in bulk.

But remember if you build a PC yourself and it breaks down the Cafe will annoy you to fix it. If buy a DELL PC and it breaks down the Cafe can go bug DELL instead ;)

[Reinvented]

Sorry if i confused anyone, i meant 1200 per computer(x5) including monitor, keyboard and mouse. Here is what i thought of getting.

1 ASUS A8N-E Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: A8N-E


1 COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UB Black /Blue Aluminum Bezel , SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail


1 Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3808110AS 80GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: ST3808110AS

1 Logitech Internet Pro Desktop 967457-0403 Black PS/2 Wired Standard Keyboard Mouse Included - OEM
Model #: 967457-0403


1 Crucial Technology Ballistix 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered System Memory Model BL2KIT6464Z402 - Retail
Model #: BL2KIT6464Z402

1 ViewSonic VX924 Black/Silver 19" 3ms gray-to-gray (avg.); 6ms white-black-white (typ)' LCD Monitor - Retail
Model #: VX924

1 Microsoft Windows XP Professional With SP2 - OEM
Model #: E85-04026

1 FSP Group (Fortron Source) AX500-A, 2.0 version, 2 SATA, PCI Express, 500W - Retail
Model #: AX500-A

1 AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 2000MHz HT Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3000BPBOX - Retail
Model #: ADA3000BPBOX

1 SAPPHIRE 100154L Radeon X1800XT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail

Total: $1215 - $60 in rebates.

The only thing i wasnt sure about was the x1800xt being over kill.

The Ballistix memory for some reason was almost as cheap as the corsair value memory.:eek:

And there is probably close to a 100 in rebates on all that stuff.

Now that changes a lot :P

[Delirious]

Good thinking, for some reason i totally over looked that, and i just bought an oem xp pro cd for someone for $69.00, lol.

Its ok if they haggle me, im getting paid to build them, install them, and maintain them.

That and my girlfriend and her dad own/run the cafe. :D


If you decide to build the computers yourself you should think about buying items in bulk.

XP PRO OEM 3 PACK - E85-03013 ~$400
XP PRO OEM 10 PACK - E85-0008610LIC ~$1200

Don't buy software from newegg they greatly overcharge. You should be able to find OEM XP discs all over the net for ~$100

You can also contact microsoft directly and let them know that you are a system builder for a business and ask to buy just licenses or see if they will sell you the packs directly at a discount (don't forget to haggle).

Motherboards are another item that would probably be cheaper to buy in bulk.

But remember if you build a PC yourself and it breaks down the Cafe will annoy you to fix it. If buy a DELL PC and it breaks down the Cafe can go bug DELL instead ;)