40k 3dmark03 with Intel 975i and 7900GTX SLi

[zakelwe]

Big Sam just got his 7900GTX cards and has sent this link

http://www.steffbard.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=140&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

:toast:

Very nice work Sam considering you only got them this morning.

I'm sure with Conroe around the corner and a lot of new motherboards you will be putting a lot of big scores up in the coming months.

:clap:

Regards

Andy

[AndreYang]

good news:toast:

[massman]

intel is really going to ROCK the orb :)

[2fink]

sli on intel-chip? :woot: thought it wouldnt work!

[Vapor]

That's incredible...975 and only single core (okay, this is 03--loves Intel and cares more about memory bandwidth than CPU MHz or cores, I know)....and only on air....wow.

How'd he get it to work so well on 975?

[White]

Good news, and good results! I believe, that it will be much more in future.

[Kunaak]

SLI on a 975 Board?

How?

[lawrywild]

just like evryone else.. HOW!!!

edit: it says he just installed 84.43's and it worked!

[AndreYang]

I cannot work SLI on my 975X.:confused:

The scores are always single card..........


I use driver 84.43.

[dpa]

dont you guys know..?

Big_sam are getting modded drivers from china, but he wont publish them..

So basically he is fighting against him self on the orb..! Nobody can run the same setup..

[Kunaak]

dont you guys know..?

Big_sam are getting modded drivers from china, but he wont publish them..

So basically he is fighting against him self on the orb..! Nobody can run the same setup..

modded.... drivers from china.... that he won't share...

ok, whatever.
for a moment I thought this was real.
fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me...

reminds of that post...

hey look, DDR 617 at cas 2-2-2-5-1T at 4.05 volts 1M stable...

great, can you show us some more info...

oh I would, but uh.. .that ram was my friends, and I don't have it anymore, infact... its dead, so I can't, sorry.

I am not saying he's a liar, he obviously wasn't when they got the 6600 GT's to work...

but so far, I either its exceptionally petty to have drivers that do work, then never let anyone use them...
or, he's pulling my leg.

at the moment, I am inclined to think both are the case. :slapass:

[zakelwe]

dont you guys know..?

Big_sam are getting modded drivers from china, but he wont publish them..



Apparently he also gets Duke Nukem Forever as well from a little Chinese man in Hwangan but will not share that either :(

:D

Regards

Andy

[crotale]

Very intressesting, good work Sam! :up:

[SoF]

gonna have to agree to kunaak even the numbers are really impressive it is kinda strange thing how he did it.
If a driver mod would be possible I'm sure we would have seen it somewhere else. And if he really got one and does not share it - kill him and grab the driver, I'll spread it all over the world (I'm experienced in that hrhr)

[Cooper]

Hey guys - how about this

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4757334

And drivers used are 84.24 -of course modded to remove NVidia`s "security" for enabling SLI on different chipsets

Nice work Big_Sam

[SoF]

one serious question: isn't it the case that modified drivers will not be recognized on the orb?
or is the orb just looking for the version number not if the driver is original or not?

[Cooper]

Just look for yourself - it`s WHQL and FM aprooved. Otherwise it would be marked as not aprooved drivers, isn`t it ?

[maverik-sg1]

Hey guys - how about this

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4757334

And drivers used are 84.24 -of course modded to remove NVidia`s "security" for enabling SLI on different chipsets

Nice work Big_Sam

Where can I find such a mod? I already have the chipset EXE that was forceably removed a few weeks back by the green machine.

I am looking to possibly upgrading to conroe, but having 2x 7900GTX I will need something like this to run them both on the Intel chipset.

Cheers

Mav

[SoF]

Just look for yourself - it`s WHQL and FM aprooved. Otherwise it would be marked as not aprooved drivers, isn`t it ?

I saw it and this is what wondered me - is it a "special" modded driver now or not? If he is the only one having it this is kinda ridiculous competition imo.

[Big_Sam]

Greetings guys! :)
Today business go better. :) I have taken for tests the first got dual core processor (thanks to my friends from http://www.cross-chel.ru/ ) and here that has turned out:

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/9830/2790004d4ul.gif

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4758746

I have made only two attempts. First time on 5100, but right at the end of the test comp has hung. I think that I know in what direction it is necessary to work. :)

[speed bump]

Nice job sam.

I would tend to say these are recognized by the orb becuase its like running W1zzards patch to turn 9500n/ps into 9700s.

Although I can't wait until someone can share them with the rest of us;)

[zbogorgon]

Big Sam, looooooooooots and loooooooooooots of people here would jump from joy if you could share your secret with us.

[White]

zbogorgon
I think its imposible, yet.

[Cooper]

From the first... nothing has earned. Smile I have install the latest driver 84.37 and computer has refused to load OS with it Smile I have thought that a problem with PS and have put the additional power supply. But the system refused to work Smile. I have lost a lot of time finding out the reason but so anything has not found. When I have installed other driver of a problem have ended.

Something tells me it`s not just drivers. IMO drivers are completly untouched. Some OS/HW tweaks

[Supertim0r]

Something tells me it`s not just drivers. IMO drivers are completly untouched. Some OS/HW tweaks
agree

[zbogorgon]

do you think it is possible to trick videocard's drivers to think i975 is actually nf4?

[railer]

I'm thinking registry and device Id was moded. But who knows maiby it could be a hardware mod. Anyway my congrats and respect for such an achivement. :clap:

[2fink]

uli-patch?

[LarsK]

Nice results there Big_Sam :clap:

It just goes to prove that Nvidia's lame excuse that Intel chipsets don't have enough bandwidth to run SLI is just plain bullocks.:rolleyes:

[freecableguy]

Undocumented MSR for 975X/NF4 chipset is what I think.

[althes]

would love to get that patch it would be fun

[Tasselhof]

Great result :)
Congratulations !

[georgekh]

INTEL all the way baby!!!!!

[xooler]

2fink , no ULI patch .

[wtkprol]

Wow! Really nice results with Intel there.

[FireDragon]

So umm if i might ask HOW DID HE DO THIS i would have thought that if it could be done like this then Intel and Nvid would have done it MUCH larger sales for both dont u think?

Dragon

[zbogorgon]

nvdia could have enabled SLi on intel chipsets in a blink of an Eye if they wanted to, everybody knows that.

[wa77ss]

This is no fun. We shouldnt have to play guessing games on how in the world he runs SLI/Intel. He should just tell us ...

[vanovich]

nice scores sam .;) what about 05 and 06 scores?

[ahmad]

Hmmm

http://www.ocworkbench.com/ocwbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/29/1358.html

I don't get this at all. Some people can and some people can't? Or is that ocworkbench screenshot photochoped?

[vanovich]

Hmmm

http://www.ocworkbench.com/ocwbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/29/1358.html

I don't get this at all. Some people can and some people can't? Or is that ocworkbench screenshot photochoped?

well only the people with moded drivers can,which is not much ,

[Big_Sam]

It seems to me that I has found where I had a mistake and has tried to correct it. :)

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2673/2790003025bl.gif

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4763912

I think that my "Wings of Fury" the fastest among cards from NV - 618.3 fps ! :D Memory is also nice. :) Now it is possible to start videocards OC. :)

[Sneaky]

please contact me with the drivers - i have 7900GTX's coming and would like to use em on a P5WDG2-WS if possible...


sneaky@wi.rr.com

[easypanic]

So why is there only one person who can use SLI on his 975 system?

And then what is he doing here?

[Sneaky]

he's the only one has has hacked drivers that work with the newer nvidia cards on intel chipsets...

[easypanic]

And therefore my second question...

Showing off is not the way to go ....
We all can learn from one another here, that's what is making this site big.

[k|ngp|n]

:woot:

[nfm]

he's the only one has has hacked drivers that work with the newer nvidia cards on intel chipsets...

There's no way that orginal drivers are modified. If they were modded, there is no way that they could be still WHQL (any modification to main .inf, .sys will result in broken file signature and therefore .cat will not protect installed files making drivers non-WHQL) apparently his drivers are WHQL which only means 2 things to me:

1. He has a good friend that send him those drivers.
2. He modified them after normal driver install.

Anyway, great work Sam :toast: you should make your drivers available to all XS members who want SLI on Intel.


EDIT: OK, I got something for XS, hopefully it does work :confused:
nfm_nv4_disp84.56_mod.rar (http://www.zeroangel.ch/XP64_ua_cd_pack/nfmfiles/missc/nfm_nv4_disp84.56_mod.rar)
Follow this instructions to see if this will make SLI to work on x975
Make sure that you have 1 card plugged in. Get my drivers and extract them somewhere.

1. Power on system, keep pressing F8 as you would press Del to go into the BIOS, then choose "Enable VGA Mode"
2. Have extracted drivers ready, now, right click on "My COmputer" icon either on your desktop or in STart Menu.
3. Choose "Properties", then "Hardware", then "Device Manager", and navigate your single nvidia card.
4. Right click on your device, choose "Properties", "Driver", "Update Driver", then do the following:
click on "No, not this time", next
click on "Install from a specific location (Advanced)"
click on "Don't search...."
click on "Have Disk"

now navigate extracted folder, and click on nv4_disp.inf
FINISH INSTALLING, do not restart!

Now, SHUT DOWN THE SYSTEM
Plug in second card
Boot Windows XP normally, let it load completely

And lastly reboot system, and let me know if it works.

EDIT2: Com'on guys somebody test it out, it may be a simple reg entry that we need to export from nf4 SLI system and integrate it into drivers to enable SLI on Intel. If somebody is willing to help, PM on how to export that reg entry.

Does anybody have a screenie on Intel showing how SLI cannot be enabled?

[easypanic]

....not working...

Aopen i975 + 2x7800GTX

[s7e9h3n]

he's the only one has has hacked drivers that work with the newer nvidia cards on intel chipsets...
He's not the only one anymore ;)

His driver works and his results are real. Good job Big Sam! :toast:

...and please don't ask me for a copy.......

[Big_Sam]

His driver works and his results are real. Good job Big Sam! :toast:

Many thanks ! :)

[massman]

Big_Sam, what chipsetdrivers do you use ?

I'm on my way to find out this little 'mod', I get the SLI-tab, but no checkbox to enable sli :(

[Big_Sam]

Big_Sam, what chipsetdrivers do you use ?
First I tried on OS istalled since P5WD2 (i955X) :) , then tried chipsetdrivers from original disk which was together with P5WD2-E (I do not remember number of the version) . In both cases result identical.

[massman]

Ygpm

[TaPaKaH]

Nice work, Big_Sam ... :toast: :clap:
43000+ in 03 without ANY serious GraphicsOC and with "middle end" CPU (forgive me, but I think that some 955/965XE will perform much better:D ) ... that`s :eek:
I imagine what score you`ll get if you`ll get some 6GHz (or at least 5.5) Intel CPU and crank the GPUs to 900-1000MHz :rolleyes:
P.S. It would be really nice to see 05 & 06 scores (if it`s possible) ;)
P.P.S. It`s bad that you don`t share modded ForceWare... Do you know how many people (for example, me ;) ) have an Intel Mobo and want to go SLI but for the drivers... :D (I know that it`s hard work to hack the drivers and you don`t want to give them away "for free":D )

[massman]

drivers are NDA ;)

[massman]

Well, I'm trying to get the SLI working, yet it won't start :@

where's the checkbox ?? (http://users.skynet.be/fa505044/SCORES/sli.JPG)

[nfm]

@easypanic, thanks for quick test.

Well, I'm trying to get the SLI working, yet it won't start :@

where's the checkbox ?? (http://users.skynet.be/fa505044/SCORES/sli.JPG)

Well, checkbox isn't there. Somebody with working SLI on any platform should check if the SLI is enabled in registry. You could use a regshot v1.72 to find out what and where the entry is changed by simply unchecking SLI, dumping reg image, checking SLI back, dumping reg image and finally compare them.

...and please don't ask me for a copy.......
I don't get it, if you and Sam have that driver or reg entry why not share them to XS members?

[s7e9h3n]

I don't get it, if you and Sam have that driver or reg entry why not share them to XS members?
Because it's NDA. It's not my place to be freely handing out the result of someone else's hard work without their permission........The reason I posted here was to confirm Big Sam's work with this driver, that's all.

[maverik-sg1]

Would it be fair to say that these drivers will be released by Nvidia on or around the same time as conroe?

Or is the NDA with some other company?

Mav

[zakelwe]

he's the only one has has hacked drivers that work with the newer nvidia cards on intel chipsets...

and Ati chipsets as well it seems ( check out Coolaler thread in Intel section ).

Nice improvment in score Sam :toast: great GT1 score.

Regards

Andy

[Big_Sam]

Nice improvment in score Sam :toast: great GT1 score.


Thanks :)
New result with delta of GPU blocks equal 0 : http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4768037
Frequencies - 740 / 935 Mhz, no volt mod.

[GoriLLakoS]

Some results here with T2600ES@3303 and SLI 7900GTX ~700/900

http://www.thelab.gr/attachment.php?s=&postid=384123

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4768603

8443 is not approved yet

I get ~ the same score with an 955XE @4.6 on air..:D

2005 here

http://www.thelab.gr/attachment.php?s=&postid=384125

only mhz and nothing more...:D

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1992736

[massman]

Well, checkbox isn't there. Somebody with working SLI on any platform should check if the SLI is enabled in registry. You could use a regshot v1.72 to find out what and where the entry is changed by simply unchecking SLI, dumping reg image, checking SLI back, dumping reg image and finally compare them.

I'm certain that my regestry is ok, so I'll try a format later on the day

[Big_Sam]

only mhz and nothing more...:D

I think that the some people will agree with me, SLi on intel - something is remarkable in it. :D

[GoriLLakoS]

Hehe...yes...for sure..:D

[maverik-sg1]

Would it be fair to say that these drivers will be released by Nvidia on or around the same time as conroe?

Or is the NDA with some other company?

Mav

Any news?

Mav

[massman]

no, drivers are still NDA.

Some people have those drivers, some people modded reg correctly, but SLI won't work (:D).

Just wait 'till the drivers are official

[easypanic]

But I have no patience :D

[easypanic]

Well, I found some regtweaks, see it in the attachment.

But how come temperature monitoring is suddenly gone???

[zbogorgon]

It would be really nice, If those drivers/tweak would become somewhat available to ordinary people, like me for eg., cause it seem a lot of people here got their hands on them and it just isn't an exclusive anymore.

[massman]

I'm certain that my regestry is ok, so I'll try a format later on the day

same results ... :(

[xooler]

Guys, these reg keys wouldn't work. I know.

[easypanic]

Ok.
Fine.

Any suggestions then??

[Big_Sam]

Any suggestions then??

I know the person who did it... Turns on SLi by editing the register. His nick is - defecator ( http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/member.php?u=27193 ) It's not a joke, I saw screens with results.
Several months ago I communicated with him on this theme, but I did not have not enough time to understand it...

[easypanic]

Thx for your help Big_Sam :)

I messaged him :).

[CornerJack]

Easypanic, news for the drivers for SLI ? :D

[easypanic]

No :/.

I haven't got further myself too :(.

[massman]

No :/.

I haven't got further myself too :(.

The regs are correct, but I think there's one think you're missing :(

[Big_Sam]

Several days ago has made Vgpu mod. The best result which was possible to reach at 1.53V is 770/950Mhz. The further attempts do not bring success. :(
A following stage will be new cooling videocards. :)
And now today's result:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4774506

http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/1035/2790003056kt.gif

[Cooper]

What cooling do you use for GPUs ? Water ?

[Big_Sam]

What cooling do you use for GPUs ? Water ?

I did not touch cooling. This is on stock cooling.

[massman]

any idea when the drivers will be released ?

[\Karting_freak]

Cooper
he'll be using his pc/ch for vids and hope to see some ln2 on cpu

[Cooper]

How about this lil` thingy :D

http://img307.imageshack.us/img307/1/0012qv9to.th.jpg (http://img307.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0012qv9to.jpg)

[GoriLLakoS]

What the hell is this???:p:

Phase change solution for a butcher???:hehe:

[zabomb4163]

when he says "official" does he mean intel or another manufacture will release the drivers?

[Big_Sam]

How about this lil` thingy :D

http://img307.imageshack.us/img307/1/0012qv9to.th.jpg (http://img307.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0012qv9to.jpg)

LoL :D
How you have found this photo? I already have forgotten about it for a long time. :D

BTW
I think I can run CPU with LN2...
I still think about cooling of videocards. If not so small distance between PCI-E, I already would make all.

[s7e9h3n]

I'm gonna give these drivers a go after I get my autocascade back. Hopefully, I'll be able to mount the heads on a pair of 7900GTX's and then move my gpu cooler over onto the cpu. So.....-70C on the yonah @ 3.6+ and -120C x 2 on the 2x7900gtx = Orb Ownage :D

[Cooper]

LoL :D
How you have found this photo? I already have forgotten about it for a long time. :D

BTW
I think I can run CPU with LN2...
I still think about cooling of videocards. If not so small distance between PCI-E, I already would make all.

xooler pointed me to steffbard ;)

btw here`s good example of SLI containers (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=96739)

[Big_Sam]

btw here`s good example of SLI containers (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=96739)

Thanks
But I think that their thickness enough greater, approximately same as my SLi-evaps: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1212961&postcount=159

[Cooper]

Man this does look awesome - can`t wait till results with these babies:slobber:

btw is there any chance of you to try some crossfire action on NF4 board ? :)

[I_G]

Several days ago has made Vgpu mod. The best result which was possible to reach at 1.53V is 770/950Mhz. The further attempts do not bring success. :(
A following stage will be new cooling videocards. :)
And now today's result:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4774506

http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/1035/2790003056kt.gif

Very nice, Big Sam!!

:YIPPIE: :YIPPIE:

[Big_Sam]

btw is there any chance of you to try some crossfire action on NF4 board ? :)
Oh, No... I absolutely precisely do not have such drivers for ATI ;)

[vengance_01]

I wish I could get my hands on these drivers. Oh well. Anyways great score:D

[easypanic]

Big_Sam, have you tested a Yonah setup with these drivers?

I'd love to see what the yonah is capable of ;).

[Big_Sam]

Big_Sam, have you tested a Yonah setup with these drivers?

I'd love to see what the yonah is capable of ;).

Unfortunately - NO. :( I do not have such devices.
But I saw one very interesting message: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1434104&postcount=69

[easypanic]

Indeed, that looks very promising :)

[maverik-sg1]

I really really really want these drivers - is there an ETA of when we can expect top see an official release?

You dont really wanna see a grown man cry.......... do you?

Mav

[CornerJack]

No news for drivers :para:

[expanse520]

i just used aopen i975xa-YDG &T2500,&XFX 7300GT*2 ,how to work on sli mode?

[Sneaky]

bigsam here on XS is the only person with the hacked SLI drivers for use on platforms with Intel chipsets...

and the select few who he has chosen to give the drivers to (under certain terms and conditions), otherwise his hacked drivers are under a very strict NDA

[Big_Sam]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1462260&postcount=1

http://steffbard.com/drivers_old/FW81.85_mod.exe

This is old WHQL/FM driver without 7900/7600/7300 support, but with 7800/6600 it works perfect. It allows to use SLi on intel 955/975 chipsets.

Enjoy ! :)

PS
Concerning about new versions of drivers address in PM.

[friky]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1462260&postcount=1

i cant believe that you posted the drivers and not one person has said a thank you... THANKS Big_Sam, i ordered my p5wd2-e board and will be getting it shortly. gonna get rid of this nforce based board which sux major ass

[Big_Sam]

i cant believe that you posted the drivers and not one person has said a thank you...

So... :)
I have received more than 200 Private Messages on this theme :)

[zbogorgon]

many thx Big Sam, really looking forward to test drivers.

[BulldogPO]

Any news?
When NDA is going to end?

[massman]

Any news?
When NDA is going to end?

are you being serious ?? :stick:

[Big_Sam]

Read here: :)

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&id=20060602040135229&board_id=1&model=P5WD2-E%20Premium&page=1&count=21

it's especially interesting on the third page:

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&id=20060602040135229&board_id=1&model=P5WD2-E%20Premium&page=3&count=21

[zbogorgon]

too bad

[Piotke]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1462260&postcount=1
THanx !

Anybody tested these drivers already ? My yonah is coming in this week, as wel as two 7800 GTX cards.