Cat 6.4 is out

[Eastcoasthandle]

It appears to be specifically geared towards synthetic benches and a few games.
http://www.ati.com:stick:

[don_vercetti]

Tried it yet?
Notice any improvements?

[5150 Joker]

Just so you guys know, the 6.4 doesn't have the "Chuck" oblivion changes that allow for HDR+AA. The "Chuck" patch was made after 6.4 so we probably won't see it incorporated until the 6.5's.

[krille]

Just so you guys know, the 6.4 doesn't have the "Chuck" oblivion changes that allow for HDR+AA. The "Chuck" patch was made after 6.4 so we probably won't see it incorporated until the 6.5's.But does it matter? Can't the "Chuck" patch just be applied over 6.4?

[Eastcoasthandle]

OK this update is either funky or I got a bad download. I had to uninstall 6.4 then clean my registry, then use driver cleaner. My problems started when XP hung during the "shutting down" phase after the initial install. I should have known there was more problems ahead of me. I could run 3d06 fine...even a nice bump in performance from 5800s to 5900s. But it would not run BF2. And, I would get artifacting with a black/white screen when in the XP bootup screen (which I never modified). After uninstalling 6.4 I have no more artifacting and that black/white screen during bootup. I am attempting to reinstalling a fresh download of 6.4 now.

Come to think of it I did have memset adjust my ram. This time I will leave memset alone and see what happens this time.

[Eastcoasthandle]

OK this update is either funky or I got a bad download. I had to uninstall 6.4 then clean my registry, then use driver cleaner. My problems started when XP hung during the "shutting down" phase after the initial install. I should have known there was more problems ahead of me. I could run 3d06 fine...even a nice bump in performance from 5800s to 5900s. But it would not run BF2. And, I would get artifacting with a black/white screen when in the XP bootup screen (which I never modified). After uninstalling 6.4 I have no more artifacting and that black/white screen during bootup. I am attempting to reinstalling a fresh download of 6.4 now.

Come to think of it I did have memset adjust my ram. This time I will leave memset alone and see what happens this time.

Ok it's official Ct 6.4 is pure crap. It's messing everything up on my system. I am getting a lot of "flashes" across text within popup screens on the desktop like windows task manager, etc. I am going back to 6.3. And, Cat 6.4 renders ATI TOOL useless now. It will not work at all. It will no longer close the CCC services on startup and when you try to run a game all I got was artifacts. Try Cat 6.4 at your own risk...

[Eastcoasthandle]

Ok it's official Ct 6.4 is pure crap. It's messing everything up on my system. I am getting a lot of "flashes" across text within popup screens on the desktop like windows task manager, etc. I am going back to 6.3. And, Cat 6.4 renders ATI TOOL useless now. It will not work at all. Try Cat 6.4 at your own risk...
Ok I am back to 6.3 again...all is well once again. Man what's up with Cat 6.4?? Was it release to early or something? That was the first time since I started using Cat I ever had a problem like this, ever!

[Eastcoasthandle]

I'm curious has anyone else tried Cat 6.4?

[Marioace]

i just recently donwloaded it, will tryit tomorrow

[16floz470ml]

I just installed them and noticed that you can no longer set 3D clocks with the Overclocker Tool.

[Lane-k]

I have install it.. no prob and sorry to say BF2 work perfect on my sys (Special forces too..) try a reinstall..

[Eastcoasthandle]

I have install it.. no prob and sorry to say BF2 work perfect on my sys (Special forces too..) try a reinstall..
I did reinstall it (with driver cleaner along with registry mechanic), 2x already and I always reboot with a black/white screen instead of the normal XP screen bootup. Then ATI TOOL no longer works for me. I get artifacts if I use it in BF2 at the main menu screen. When I install 6.3 all is well again. BF2 plays fine. XP boots up as normal again.

[Eastcoasthandle]

link (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=453913)

I am not the only one having problems here

[Lane-k]

lol.. don't know...i just have play with this one.. any yes i have the welcome screen do strange thing too.. with and blue line.. but it's have disappears then.. I have not try OC yet..
Are you using an OC speed for play?..

[5150 Joker]

But does it matter? Can't the "Chuck" patch just be applied over 6.4?


The "chuck" patch isn't actually a patch, it's modified drivers so no you can't install it over the 6.4.

[Eastcoasthandle]

lol.. don't know...i just have play with this one.. any yes i have the welcome screen do strange thing too.. with and blue line.. but it's have disappears then.. I have not try OC yet..
Are you using an OC speed for play?..

If I didn't know any better its acts a filter to prevent you from using ATI Tool or overclocker. Neither of them worked for me. And during regular clocks I could not get it to work in games. Like I said, I was able to run 3d06 fine but after that everything went bonkers

[Lane-k]

Need addtion one thing, for BF2 i use this settings, 16xAF HQF, AA adaptative but in controled by appliccations,6xAA set in game..
All settings max inin games 1280x1024 75hz...

But if i have problem then with ATI tool for OC.. i go back to the beta Hotfix Chuck patch: real increase in games and 3DMark..

welcome screen was in boot of windows... but it's ok.. don't know.. do you think a temp increase?..


Edit:....
Something is really strange, you're right: this blue /white weird corruption when enter windows, this is normally the screen with the "welcome"... something is crap, .. perhaps just the refresh but it's weird..
I reinstall 6.3 before have more info..

I m on the Innercircle and beta tester of XG driver (warcat for ATI) plz if peoples will share prob.. do it.. we will do test on this 6.4.. but the most info we have can perhaps permit us identify the problem..

[Eastcoasthandle]

Need addtion one thing, for BF2 i use this settings, 16xAF HQF, AA adaptative but in controled by appliccations,6xAA set in game..
All settings max inin games 1280x1024 75hz...

But if i have problem then with ATI tool for OC.. i go back to the beta Hotfix Chuck patch: real increase in games and 3DMark..

welcome screen was in boot of windows... but it's ok.. don't know.. do you think a temp increase?..


Edit:....
Something is really strange, you're right: this blue /white weird corruption when enter windows, this is normally the screen with the "welcome"... something is crap, .. perhaps just the refresh but it's weird..
I reinstall 6.3 before have more info..

I m on the Innercircle and beta tester of XG driver (warcat for ATI) plz if peoples will share prob.. do it.. we will do test on this 6.4.. but the most info we have can perhaps permit us identify the problem..

Mine turns black and white with multi colored pixels. Do me a favor hit control alt delete...go to processes. Does it flicker and change color??? Give it a minnute first...

[VoRtAn_MaDgE]

I've just downloaded and installed the 6.4.

Didn't check in games cuzz it's 4a.m in portugal:p: butt i have the same issue entering in windows...the messed up screen, with dots and crazy color, like 3d corruption screen...

will test them tomorrow

[ugp]

I am getting screen corruption between the Windows XP Loading screen and the Windows XP Logon screen.

[Eastcoasthandle]

I am getting screen corruption between the Windows XP Loading screen and the Windows XP Logon screen.

this is only the start of many sorrows...

[ugp]

I have switched back to the 6.3s and everything is well now. I am sure there will be a fix for this very soon because it seems that it is a big problem right now.

[Eastcoasthandle]

I have switched back to the 6.3s and everything is well now. I am sure there will be a fix for this very soon because it seems that it is a big problem right now.
Same for me when I reverted back to 6.3 all is well again...

[Marioace]

Tomorrow i will receive an answer form a guy at ATI for these problems with the Cats 6.4
now he is not at the office. :P

[Eastcoasthandle]

Tomorrow i will receive an answer form a guy at ATI for these problems with the Cats 6.4
now he is not at the office. :P
tell him that it's folks with x1900xtx...not sure of the x1900xt...but the x850xt folk seems to have no problems...not sure of the x1800xt

[MuMiXaM]

im getting the boot corruption on a x1900xt

[loc.o]

Same here with 6.4. Messed up screen at boot. Back to 6.3

[Jupiler]

Same for me, card is an X1900XT.
Went back to the 6.3 drivers.

[blind_ripper]

so the drivers are not ready yet to use i see :( , no bench marks ? dos it not give a little boost in 3dmark

[don_vercetti]

I've got them DL'ed, i'll try them out and see what boost they give 03 and 05 for an x1800xt.

[Lane-k]

Mine turns black and white with multi colored pixels. Do me a favor hit control alt delete...go to processes. Does it flicker and change color??? Give it a minnute first...

you talk when you are in BF2?... this remember me something i was having specially with the X1800 ( when i had one)... sometimes after changing the driver the games have need be reinstalled.. other it can come from the AA.. be sure have the same refresh sync in games and desktop, and set the AA by controllled appliccations and use the cfg in game.. ( you can play with no prob at 6x, and set the adaptative in CCC..)

I can quit the game ( ctl alt+del), it take allways some times for return to desktop, but then. no prob when i come back to BF2..( during a party, not in menu of the games..)

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But i see we have all this corruption at boot.. what do you think? detection of display.. refresh rate in desktop.?.. i have set in manual detect display but this is same...
I have bench in 3D05.. a little gain.. but not really a big boost.. need see if this is up my score in 3D06 too..

[Eastcoasthandle]

from reading a few threads a lot of people with a x1900 series are having problems with the Cat 6.4...it should be pulled from the site until they fix it...

[pancake]

Had problems with 6.4 on x1800xt 512mb, kept setting my core clock to 475 on boot instead of 600.
Would of had some bench results with them if i had realised it was set to 475 when i ran 3d mark
Back to 6.3 now, all is good again

[ugp]

It seems ATI didn't fully test these drivers before releasing them did they?

[k0nsl]

tell him that it's folks with x1900xtx...not sure of the x1900xt...but the x850xt folk seems to have no problems...not sure of the x1800xt

X1800XT, also. I have the strange occurance spoken about regarding the loading of Windows. Everything else works fine, though.

-k0nsl

[Stelios]

I'm also having problems with my X1900XTX . I'cant even run dxdiag ... It gives thousands FPS and all i can see is something like blur ! :D
3dmark can'r run at all.

I'm going back to 6.3 ... :(

[ahmad]

They added all these AVIVO features, and broke the main part of the drivers... how many did ATI fire from their QA team?

[Marioace]

ATI's Cats Beta testers didn't find any issues with this drivers, so they are working to find the problem.

Ok I will have to get it checked when I'm at work tomorrow. Its nothing we seen in
our testing labs, and no beta tester has seen it. Requires research from us


an extract from an answer from ATI guy

[Stelios]

Marioace , thanks for the update . Please inform us in case you have any news.

[Marioace]

ok ;)

btw with an X1800XT and a X1600XT dont have any problems.

[Jamo]

everything seems fine here with an X800 pro, no problems to report. 3d mark scores all within margin of error for me

[Eastcoasthandle]

IMHO if you get a distorted bootup screen I wouldn't mess with them. You don't know how these drivers are interacting with your VC. Remember, your computer consumes the most current during bootup. Although unlikely it's possible to damage your VC (artifacting is still caused be overheating). Yes, the artifacting can be driver only but it could also be do to overheating during bootup that is pronounced in XP because thats when the Cat drivers kick in (during post there are no drivers thus no artifacting). This artifacting you are seeing could be result of a timed heatup of your VC. This is just an opinion...

5927 using Cat 6.4 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=241987)
5898 Cat 6.3 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=238761)

but I never watched it so I don't know if it artifacted through or not. I have no problems though :shrug: Remember this was the first thing I did when I installed the drivers the first time. After 3d06 everything went nuts..

[einCe]

boot corruption here

[ben805]

this 6.4 driver is complete junk and stay away at all cost, completely trashed my XP, corrupted screen everywhere, I didn't bother to fix it....only takes 10min to reimage the entire raid array with my backup image that has cat 6.3 on, all is well now, I'll stick with 6.3 till ATI find a fix for it.

[macg]

Same here, screen starts showing crap on windows boot. reverted back to 6.3s... ATI :(

[macg]

thread title should be changed to "Cat 6.4 is JUNK"

[ugp]

I can think of a few other things it could be titled.

[Capt_Caveman]

Same here, 6.4's and X1900XTX don't mix. My system restarts if I try to start BF2. Back to 6.3's and no issues.

[ugp]

I am surprised there isn't a fix out for it yet.

[Marioace]

still waiting for the answer.

[Concorde Rules]

Boot screen corrupted, ATi Tool clocks reduced by more than 10%, MS FS 2004 performance crappy, BF2 doesnt start at all.

ATi WTF have you done?

X1900XT after a full reinstall :/

[ahmad]

I get corrupt load screen, but BF2 runs fine...

[Lane-k]

Ok.. if the problem is only this boot corruption scree.. it's not really a big bad problem.. have you notice the AVstream driver install?( t200 or something like that)

[PL4YD34D]

yes what is t200 avstream?

[Jamo]

just noticed something, on my x800 pro 3d mark is fine at stock, but when i clock it up to 600/1200 3d mark it freezes, yet with the 6.3's i can hit 648/1260 no probs at all, thumbs down on this one ati :(

[nicepun]

I think it has something to do with the two Ati startup files we disabled in order to properly run ATi Tool. I uninstalled ATi Tool and enabled those two files, no problems so far. Can some one else try this, or has everyone reverted back to 6.3.....LOL

[Eastcoasthandle]

yes, we have, 6.4 is crap and crap don't belong my computer.
"it's just corruption on bootup, that's all" is not acceptible.
1st I want a reason why it's doing that. If that's how the services startup during the bootup of XP when no other Cat driver has there is a serious problem here Bub!

[turbotoaster]

im running 6.4 now, on x1900 crossfire setup, dont get corruption on boot up, had to reinstall all my 3d mark stuff for them to run, went from 16272 to 16440 in 05, but think that may be down to my memory, ati tool doesnt work, opened it and made a file with 500/600, exact copy of default, and get a black screen in 3dmark, cant clock my cards any more, so i think im using ccc but to be honest i havent a clue, will be going back to 6.3 as ive got an extra 100 cpu points now so gonna put then to use in 06

[IvanAndreevich]

Here is something interesting with the "corrupt loading screen" issue. Happens when my comp BSOD's I reboot to get back into windows.

I boot up and when usually you see the 6.4corruption, it shows that BSOD that occured momentarily and then moves on to boot :)

Is that cool or what? I have no idea how or why it does that, but it does. Call it a weird diagnostic feature.

[Eastcoasthandle]

Over at another forum it was determine that the Cat 6.4 drivers changed mem timing. It's best to download Rabit from TechPowerUp and write down your mem timing, re-install Cat 6.4 and get back to XP (if possible) then see if the mem timing has changed from what it was set to in Cat 6.3. This is the only way to prove this theory. I can't take Cat 6.4 any more...it was that bad.

[Marioace]

I received an Answer today

... We have had many reports of equal situations and our Engineers are working to solve them as soon as possible. Please let me to know of any other situation with our products in the future.

Regards

[WesM63]

I have the curropt boot screen with 6.3's.. and actually any driver. Scared the crap outta me, thought my $400+ was wasted on a bad card.

[16floz470ml]

When my computer boots with the 6.4s right after the windows logo the top 75% of the screen is black and the botton 25% is white with a bunch of black specks. I seem to only be able to overclock with CCC now as well. I would like to be able to take advantage of the performance increases with the new drivers but the memory settings in CCC only go up to 800.

[loc.o]

I have the curropt boot screen with 6.3's.. and actually any driver. Scared the crap outta me, thought my $400+ was wasted on a bad card.

Do you mean the logo? Thats "normal" with X1k. Its fixed with the 6.4 cat but with those the next screen is problem..

[Baron]

My screen gets all messed up after the windows logo appears but then it goes fine afterwards, its bloody agnoying but hopefully they will have sorted it in the next one.