Conroe 2.4Ghz on 965G mobo, brief test...

[VictorWang]

Conroe 2.4Ghz/1066fsb/4mb L2 /9x
965G mobo
DDR2 533 256m*2 @ 4-4-4-12
80G/8M/7200rpm/SATA

just some breif test
more benchmark result will come out later.


is that tooooooo fast :eek:

1. pi_1m/32m testing
http://vic.expreview.com/attachment/1144486036.jpg
http://vic.expreview.com/attachment/1144486148.jpg



2. sisoft sandra cpu_multimedia test
http://vic.expreview.com/attachment/sis+media.jpg



3. 3Dmark Benching
http://vic.expreview.com/attachment/1144485920.jpg

http://vic.expreview.com/attachment/3dmark06+610_1880.jpg



4. Science Mark 2.0
http://vic.expreview.com/attachment/1144486257.jpg



５. PCMark05
http://vic.expreview.com/attachment/pcmark05+cputest.jpg



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compare to my AM2 X2 4600+ with C51G rigs:
cpu @ 225*12=2700mhz (multiplier cannot be changed in the bios)
AMD's Stock cooler , vcore=1.32v~1.36v varies
ram @ 333mhz 5-5-5-5-15 1T 1GB*2 dualchannel
mobo = nv C51G
OS=xpsp2 with patch + nv 8.252 drivers


pi_1m=39.6sec(conroe 2.4G=21.25sec)
pcmark05 cputest=5510(conroe 2.4G=6101)
3dmark03 cputest=1073(conroe 2.4G=1413)
3Dmark05 cputest=5582(conroe 2.4G=9015)
scienmark2.0=1454(conroe 2.4G=1550)
pi_fast=46.03/58.44(conroe 2.4G=32.55/40.41)
sisoft alu=24220/11022
sisoft multi=51287/55489
sisoft mem=6919/6826
sisoft cache=7432
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For More test pictues, plz come to my blog:
BenchMark Result #1 all on stock (http://vic.expreview.com/read.php?1)
BenchMark Result #2 with 6600LE (http://vic.expreview.com/read.php?2)
BenchMark Result #3 with 78gtx 512m (http://vic.expreview.com/read.php?3)
BenchMark Result #4 with 512m*2 (http://vic.expreview.com/read.php?4)

[Net_Devil]

Now that`s impressive. What`s the real voltage ?

[FoxaS]

:eek:

Impressive superpi :banana:

Keep up showing us what that Conroe can do :D

[mzs_biteme]

Now that`s impresing. What`s the real voltage ?

Dual core CPU = 2 cores 1.5v each.

Mike
PS

FAST...!!!!!

[agenda2005]

Impresssive pi score! What happen to the Vcore? 3.072V? Is that an ASUS 965G Mobo?

[Kalero]

impressive!

[bobov]

:) Than's super fast. Great!!!

[Waffles]

any mods required on the 965 to get conroe working?

[RyderOCZ]

:eek: :clap:

[StixxX]

wow:eek: that is just sweet..Imagining it on phase.Prolly gets down lower than 15 sec..:slobber: Are you using a prototype mobo. 965?

[RimRam]

Fugger should have deleted this thread :rolleyes:

[railer]

21sek on just 2.4:woot: So wht MB and bios? I want to see this cpu overclocked:D

[Plaicd]

What motherboard brand-model did you use?
Did you need to modify it to get the conroe to work?

[freecableguy]

nice Victor, looks like you beat me by about 6 hours! pls share your MB and BIOS version. :)

[2fink]

great results..

[Fixxxer]

Seems like Intel rocks again! :D

[StyM]

impressive..

[NiCKE^]

Victor strikes again! Nice work mate! Really astonishing!
That's how the cookie crumbles :P Good job! I will stay tuned for more results and hope for a 3ghz superpi round :D

[Donni]

give me more baby !!!! :D :D :D

[lhman]

good job !body

[jebo_4jc]

While these pi results are fun, I want to see some real benchies

[lapdog]

Wow, your the king.:toast:

You snooz, you loose!

[coldpower27]

3 GHZ at 1333FSB should be a doable overclock and a possible extreme edition grade, current clock represents the E6600 at 316US you guys, so basically everyone will get 21 PI stock!!!! Woot!

[RimRam]

or your post :)
more like your post. that was supose to be a joke, if you have a sense of homor.

[mikeguava]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :YIPPIE: :YIPPIE: :YIPPIE: :YIPPIE: :YIPPIE: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :sonic: :sonic: :sonic: :sonic: :bounces: :bounces: :bounces: :bounces: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:


Man this is fast - awesome Victor!

[Raiden Zero]

omg thats so damn fast :slobber:

[chrisf6969]

:party: Conroe's coming out Party!! :party:

Please Overclock That Chip! NOW!!!!

[DrJohn]

Nice work victor, ring her out at little lets see what she can do.

[nCrusader]

Leap ahead, litterary.
But we need more, 3DMark05.

[AndreYang]

wow~~~~AMD dead.:woot:

[LoKi2k]

give us some game-benches :D

[mikeguava]

Come Victor - the other test should take seconds with all this power - let us see!

[Dumo]

Nice Victor:toast: ...Could you run 2 SP1 simultaneously?
Thank you:)

[NiCKE^]

We want to se 32M stock also :D That would be freakin' awsome!

[StyM]

nice work...

http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/5261/untitled2jd.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[DilTech]

wow~~~~AMD dead.:woot:

Wouldn't say that, but this year AMD is in deeeeep.

65nm with their new silicon method(40% faster transistor switching) should even out the odds.

[DaWaN]

I feel like it's over for AMD till their 65nm proces :)
Wicked cool CPU and motherboard VictorWang !!!! Really sick :)

[NiCKE^]

Haha Victor you really kicked the AMD forums with this :D

[gillll]

damn fast !!!!!!!!!!!

go intel (i would have never thought..................)

AMD you have the ball now.

[CRUSH-ER]

:toast: :toast: :toast:

[Tyrou]

:woot:

[El Snorro]

What are the memtimings/memspeed?

[Waus-mod]

w0000t.. those are sick results... :D

Congrats on first run!

[LenniZ]

O_O

I would kill the president for a Conroe.

[sergiu]

Impressive results. How about some 64bits benchmark, like Cinebench 64bits version?

[Unrealcpu]

My athlon FX 55BN at 3.4 gighertz was getting 26-27sec 1meg superpi

YOU KNOW WHAT I SOLD THAT CRAP 4 MONTHS AGO LOL.

When i get home from Iraq i will be putting a conroe EE into my Vapochill LS
with a top of the line vid card from ATI.

LOL


AMD is dead

[metro.cl]

lol did you see the generation that has to fight conroe?
No? then don't say bs like that :)


i think he knows what amd has....

[waddupmm]

pretty damn fast... gl amd

[K.I.T.T.]

i think he knows what amd has....
QFT.

AMD are feckin' pwned....

[s7e9h3n]

Wow :clap:

[Waus-mod]

Victor... i sure hope you have a lot of ln2 or dry ice this evening :P

What an day!

[metro.cl]

QFT.

AMD are feckin' pwned....

QFT???

i didnt understand.

by the way Victor do you have oc options? clockgen works? could you shou the ram configuration and latencies.

:woot: :woot:

[Unrealcpu]

QFT.

AMD are feckin' pwned....

This is AMD :slapass: :slapass:


FCG ABD FUGGER where are u :stick: :confused: :D :nono:

[crotale]

Would we need to wait 3 more months for these chips now? Insane!
I hope they release them early, or FCG/Wictor or other people get a steady supply of ES chips.

[K.I.T.T.]

QFT???

i didnt understand.

by the way Victor do you have oc options? clockgen works? could you shou the ram configuration and latencies.

:woot: :woot:

QFT = quoted for truth ;)

:)

[34th_H.uGe]

Conroe comes ^o^

[Razor_Sniper]

This is a revolution :O

[Noldor]

A Conroe 2.4GHZ stock, beats out a P4 at 6GHz or an AMD at 3.5GHz NICE! Can't wait to see some 3D or some mem-benches and some OC-results! :toast: Nice work!


QFT= quit :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing talking! hehe :woot:

[Jester FPS]

Freaking awesome.

[cl4w]

incredible...
i want to have this now!!!!!

[Absolute_0]

I wouldn't mind seeing some 3dmark and dual 32M or something. Very impressive benchmarks Victor, congrats on being the first. 21.5s at 2.4 Ghz :drool: i wonder what the 3.33 Ghz model will be like...

[garkon]

O_O

I would kill the president for a Conroe.

You do know the secret service seriously frowns on that kind of talk.;) More info on conroe/mobo por favor!

[cpuz]

wow nice CPU.
Someone knows about the definitive name of Conroe ?

[Mr. Tinker]

The pendulum swings...I want to know everything.

[agenda2005]

wow nice CPU.
Someone knows about the definitive name of Conroe ?

Rare visitor.:toast: Nice to see you around. :D

[RimRam]

Yeah, I wouldn’t jump the gun on AMD or make those nasty remarks.
Hell, Intel owes it to AMD. If it wasn’t for AMD, you all would be sweating 60 pipelines P5,6,7 or P8 for another 2-3 years. I mean sweating.

[Siki3d]

:stick: is it just me or is the vcore a little too high on the cpu z screen
cpuz is defnintely not reading it correctly...

[Fabius88]

OMFG:eek: :eek: :eek:

the power is here
cant't wait for oc'ed results:banana:

[metro.cl]

No he doesn't.

Overclockers with normal sense wouldn't sell the skin of the bear before it's even shotten.

I see the half of this thread saying amd am2 got owned?
may i ask where i already can buy this and can you give me proof of this?
I don't give a :banana::banana::banana::banana: about amd getting pwned or not..
But so far nobody is getting pwned except the previous generation of cpu wich is already there for years..

:stick:

you are telling me that the fx-62 is gonna beat this cpu?? look what would take to a s939 to get to 21s. do you really think that a fx-62 am2 is gonna be clocked at 3.5ghz+? and this isnt even top of the line conroe. So far amd has problems.

[Jamo]

holy makeral batman, i'm impressed, i knew they were fast but 21sec is insane and to think i laughed my mate out of town when he told me last year that 2006 will be intel's year, i guess we shall see...

[VictorWang]

hey everybody , I've just try to make it run on ASUS P5WD2-P (955x)
but failed.

I'll try P5WD2-E P and Intel 975xbx tomorrow if I have some time.

The CPU in hand for a long time but no mobo to run my baby untill today.

The mobo has no overclk function, I've tried several softwares but all failed :(

Now , the system aren't very stable 'cos there are still many bugs in the bios.

will be solved somedays later.



I'm shocked by Conroe, just 2.4Ghz with 256m*2 DDR2_533 4-4-4-12 can break 21s.
AMD ... all dead, and maybe the same words to Yonah :(

Let's waiting for Conroe/Meroms and more great 975x mobos with good OC features.

Time for us to break into 10sec now. :D :D

[RyderOCZ]

@ Willis and Metro.Cl,

Can we please keep this thread focused on congrats and more results? Let's not start the ever present war on who owns who yet again.

Thanks

[VictorWang]

The real volt. for Conroe= 1.2v
and 965G cannot be recongnized by CPUZ 1.33.
So I didn't post any mobo/ram info.

[K.I.T.T.]

Victor, what are temps? and what heatsink are you using? :)

[metro.cl]

@ Willis and Metro.Cl,

Can we please keep this thread focused on congrats and more results? Let's not start the ever present war on who owns who yet again.

Thanks

i'm not out of topix im saying this cpu is freaking good....


hope you can get a mobo with oc features victor

@ willis this isnt 24/7 systems.org ...

[dpa]

any clocking possible on the card? a 3Ghz run would be awesome, way to go Victor!

[savantu]

Yeah, I wouldn’t jump the gun on AMD or make those nasty remarks.
Hell, Intel owes it to AMD. If it wasn’t for AMD, you all would be sweating 60 pipelines P5,6,7 or P8 for another 2-3 years. I mean sweating.

We know what AMD will have this year :

X2 5000+ 2.6/512KB
X2 5200+ 2.6/1MB ( Q4 )
FX 62 2.8/1MB

Which one will beat the 315$ Conroe 2.4GHz ? Should I even mention the 530$ Conroe 2.66GHz ?

You can go here and compare prices :

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=1601


Btw , long pipelines are the future.Even if short pipeline rule now , all studies made have shown ideal pipeline length should be around 30+ ( Intel ) and ~50 ( IBM ).Problem is if process and transistors evolution will be fast enough to allow a improved Netburst to make a comeback...

[mikeguava]

:(



I'm shocked by Conroe, just 2.4Ghz with 256m*2 DDR2_533 4-4-4-12 can break 21s.
AMD ... all dead, and maybe the same words to Yonah :(

Let's waiting for Conroe/Meroms and more great 975x mobos with good OC features.

Time for us to break into 10sec now. :D :D


Victor - any chance you can run a lower multi - so we can compare Conroe VS Merom @ 2.0GHZ

TY

[Merkor]

hey everybody , I've just try to make it run on ASUS P5WD2-P (955x)
but failed.

:( :( :(

Does it make a beep or completely nothing? BIOS version?

[Getttosmurf]

Damn thats fast ! thanks for sharing your results.
cant wait to see what amd will do next

[mine]

Victor - any chance you can run a lower multi - so we can compare Conroe VS Merom @ 2.0GHZ

TY

absolutely.............. don`t forget :


stock merom @2,0 .......25 sec PI
stock conroe @2,4....... 21,4sec PI

[comrad]

Wow... That is insane. I guess I am waiting till these to come out...

[gillll]

just noticed ........ but no x86-64 extenstions ?

is that a new policy ? to make microsoft choose ? x86-64 or em64t ?

[mascaras]

It makes no sense to compare something that isn't here yet or something that is still an illsion, at this point that's what am2 is...



i think not even AM2 will get this results :rolleyes:


and AM2 prices already out:


Pricing and availability for AMD's desktop AM2 offerings


We have received some rather interesting info on AMD's new range of Socket AM2 processors. According to internal AMD documents, system builders will be able to purchase the new AM2 processor starting on May 15th. Dual core and single core Athlon 64 processors will be available as well as 64-bit Sempron processors.


According to our previously published roadmaps, AMD's Athlon 64 FX-62 will be the company's top desktop offering for the remainder of the year. It is not until Q1 of 2007 that we will see the FX-64 hit the market. All other AM2 processors are officially under embargo until June 6, 2006.

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6788/am29kw.jpg

The SSBP above denotes the Suggested System Builder Price. Actual manufacturer purchase prices are approximately 10% less. And of course, you can be sure those new CPUs will come with heatpipe coolers and new packaging. AMD insiders have confirmed to us that AM2 motherboards will be shipping for several weeks before the launch to assure widespread availability at launch.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=1601

[StixxX]

Conros is prolly better now because of bandwith but when merom gets a good board then it should do a little better than conroe

[mursaat]

Definitely I won't buy another 165 to see if it gets to 2.9 or 3ghz :D:D:D:D

BTW someone around has a 2.4 DC Opty superpi time to compare the gap? My 165 at 2600 does 30.5s :woot: with tweaked memory @ 260mhz RAM 2-2-2-5 yes I know it's a different generation but that doesn't hurt the fact that's the increase we're going to feel when going DC Opty -> Conroe.

[VictorWang]

Victor - any chance you can run a lower multi - so we can compare Conroe VS Merom @ 2.0GHZ

TY


sorry mike, the bios now have no oc fucntion.
and not software can support 965G chipset.

I think, their performance must be close to each other, just different socket and deafult_fsb.

[StyM]

nice job... :clap: :clap: :clap:
how about at 32m??:D :D :D

[NiCKE^]

Tried any 32M when you were at it Victor?

[2fink]

wow nice CPU.
Someone knows about the definitive name of Conroe ?

intelinator? ;)

[njkid32]

Guys as Ryder already asked please keep this thread ontopic and not turn it into an Intel AMD battle. I am sure Victor doesnt like that his thread turned into a war. Thanks!!

[Nazu]

So Fugger still has problems with the mobo? 21s and 2.4GHz, thats quite amazing :slobber:

[VictorWang]

Tried any 32M when you were at it Victor?


wait , I'm trying to plug my 78gtx 512m to see it's 3D performance.

will try pi_32m and more test later.

[Absolute_0]

Yeah i was curious as well, what are the temps like, idle and load, and what cooling? 65nm and 1.2v it should run very cool! :)

[nCrusader]

wait , I'm trying to plug my 78gtx 512m to see it's 3D performance.

will try pi_32m and more test later.
Please try out 3DMark05, we know that Intel are strong already in 03 and 06.

[StixxX]

Can't wait.:p:

[shuRe]

wait , I'm trying to plug my 78gtx 512m to see it's 3D performance.

will try pi_32m and more test later.

good to see we will have some 3d benches, would be no good to most regular users if it could pull 21s @ 1M but not top an a64 at 3d. (pressuming it will beat an a64, but results might not be as exciting as superPI results)

[crotale]

Congrats to the results Victor!

As many other people are requesting, can you please run some more benchmarks at that speed, preferable multi-threaded benchmarks, as well as 3DMark. :)

[Pirated]

Oh!
My Holy gosh...
The super saiyan proc ever i see.

Lemme test that one here.. :D

[PMAer]

All i can say is.. Amazing :O

I wonder if this would be a good move for intel.. Since all their procs (single or dual) priced above $300 would become obselete just like that.. :P

[NiCKE^]

Can only imagine the 79GTX nature score :O

[Unrealcpu]

good to see we will have some 3d benches, would be no good to most regular users if it could pull 21s @ 1M but not top an a64 at 3d. (pressuming it will beat an a64, but results might not be as exciting as superPI results)


lol you dont know much about super pi

the conroe will kill the athlon 64 in 3d processing

[tsuehpsyde]

I want to see some Aquamark3 and 3DMark01 tests, and a 3DMark05/6 just for kicks. :) But very nice to see some results finally trickle down to show us, thanks Victor!

[thegreek]

VictorWang, can you run PC Mark05, 3dMark05, and some more benchmarks with the Conroe at 2.4?

[Dumo]

Guys...Please post your AMD's comparo/opinion in AMD's section. Anyone with FX60 can do comparo with Victor's result and post in their own thread:toast:

[shuRe]

lol you dont know much about super pi

the conroe will kill the athlon 64 in 3d processing

if you would be so kind as to enlighten me on where i am wrong in what i posted, instead of just being plain rude.

[Razor_Sniper]

wrong :)
dothan doesn't kill fx60 in 3d although it owns it in spi ;)
but yeah prolly it will own lol :D

Depends, 3d01se is mostly CPU based and DOTHAN PWNS! And 3d05 has benefit of the two cores of a FX60. So that's not fair. Dothan pwns FX60 :)

[Waus-mod]

to bad it wont let you oc :(
Or this would be a night to remember

[HousERaT]

Congrats Victor..... 21 seconds is awesome at only stock. Hope the bugs get worked out soon enough. Looks like Intel might have a real winner this time.

[VictorWang]

really bad news.
bios has some problem , I cannot add addtional PCIE vga_card or change ram to 1GB*2.

Now pi_32m running

[tsuehpsyde]

really bad news.
bios has some problem , I cannot add addtional PCIE vga_card or change ram to 1GB*2.

Now pi_32m running

I'll check back in 15 minutes for results. :p: :toast:

[Nordling]

Really astonishing!

[NiCKE^]

really bad news.
bios has some problem , I cannot add addtional PCIE vga_card or change ram to 1GB*2.

Now pi_32m running
:( We need to find you a better board for sure! Try to bug FCG and FUGGER about what they will use and if you got same HW maybe they can hand over the bios to you if yours isn't working?

[s7e9h3n]

:( We need to find you a better board for sure! Try to bug FCG and FUGGER about what they will use and if you got same HW maybe they can hand over the bios to you if yours isn't working?
I think you've got it backwards :p:

[RoyaL]

Victor put that babe under dice/ln2!

WR 4 sure!

[VictorWang]

:( We need to find you a better board for sure! Try to bug FCG and FUGGER about what they will use and if you got same HW maybe they can hand over the bios to you if yours isn't working?

FCG will try ASUS P5WDG2-WS later (when he came home)
I'm expecting.

[Absolute_0]

I'll check back in 15 minutes for results. :p: :toast:

Haha, yeah 15 minute 32M :eek: :D :toast:

[RimRam]

We know what AMD will have this year :

X2 5000+ 2.6/512KB
X2 5200+ 2.6/1MB ( Q4 )
FX 62 2.8/1MB

Which one will beat the 315$ Conroe 2.4GHz ? Should I even mention the 530$ Conroe 2.66GHz ?

You can go here and compare prices :

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=1601


Btw , long pipelines are the future.Even if short pipeline rule now , all studies made have shown ideal pipeline length should be around 30+ ( Intel ) and ~50 ( IBM ).Problem is if process and transistors evolution will be fast enough to allow a improved Netburst to make a comeback...
This is conroe thread and I would like to keep it that way. We are not discussing core architecture of AMD vs Intel and hijack this thread related to intrguing results of this new chip.
We will discuss your claim about "longer pipe line are the future" and
the FAQ that "longer pipeline means longer instruction latencies" in another thread if you wish. thanks.
I would like to see 32M Spi if possible.

[Donnie27]

any mods required on the 965 to get conroe working?

No mods are needed 965G Chipset.

[Veritas.no]

That's very nice victor :D Lets hope you, fcg and fugger get some boards that are more stable/ocfriendly ;)
I'm crossing my fingers for you!

[BrownTown]

id have to predict that the 32M will be slightly less impressive since the chip can probably fit the whole frikin 1M test in its gigantic cache...:slobber:

[raju]

nice to see these cpu's are so fast.


Does anyone lnow the predicted price range for these cpu's?

[NiCKE^]

I think you've got it backwards :p:
FCG said something about that he should have the right HW today 5 EST so I just supposed he got a P5WD2 board with the right bios and maybe Vic could get the bios from him ;)

It's always a pleasure to see a AMD Fanboy over here in the Intel forums ;)
Enjoy your stay, maybe it will be permanent :P :stick: :toast:

[georgesod]

How about temps? Dosn't this mobo have any sensors?
Next good thing i wanna hear is the best overclockability of this babe
Nice work Victor :toast:

[mackanz]

I think you've got it backwards :p:

;D

I badly need a new cpu to play with. To bad Conroe won't be available for 6 months. I have a feeling AMD just dropped the prices on the Opterons to get them selling again just like before christmas. Otherwise, they could sit on a lot of silicon soon.

[tsuehpsyde]

It's always a pleasure to see anybody over here in the Intel forums ;)

Fixed. :slap:

[kone]

Nice day... HOHO
Yonah, AOPEN i975XA-YDG, Conroe .....:woot:

[neoman]

ou my god!! thats inzane .... woot

[breakfromyou]

what are the temps like? conroe is supposed to be wicked cool...so im just curious.

[mesyn191]

;D

I badly need a new cpu to play with. To bad Conroe won't be available for 6 months. I have a feeling AMD just dropped the prices on the Opterons to get them selling again just like before christmas. Otherwise, they could sit on a lot of silicon soon.

Nah, clearing inventory for socket F which will be released soon.

Great job with the chip OP, too bad you can't OC it. Personlly I'd like to see how well it does on air and phase, dice scores are always fun to gawk at too.

All those saying AMD=dead, you keep forgetting they'll have thier .65 process in volume in Q1 2007, that is only about 3 months or so from the launch date of Conroe. I don't think they'll be able to take the lead back on performance but I'm pretty sure reduce it significantly, at the same price point vs. Intel counterparts. Things will get interesting again when K8L comes out in late 2007 for AMD, til' then they'll have to compete on price I think, which should help keep Intel prices from getting to high. Either which way it sounds like I'll be able to get a good chip for a reasonable price, go competition go!!

[Mowgli]

finally, the results everybody has been waiting for its over...

i guess XS is the first to receive the news?

[freeloader]

Nice results on the SuperPI run! :D

What's all the fuss about Conroe for anyhow? Intel has had the better part of two years to develop new cores. There lead will last until AMD's next architecture comes out (K10?), then you'll all be spending money to switch again. LOL...

[BrownTown]

everyone knew it would pwn at SuperPi, the question most people have is overclocking and games, and it looks like we will be waiting a little longer for that to be answered.

[mikeguava]

Any chance you can lower the multi - or are you stuck with the multi?

Would love to see how far off this would be compared to the Conroe

EDIT: Just saw you earlier post - too bad you can't change multi - just like me...



http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5559/merom1mpi7je.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Gamer]

wow, thanks for sharing !!!

great results.

[fullup3]

Damn that is fast. Nice job....can't wait to see some overclocked scores!

[Athens[2004]]

Holy damm stock @

[Gautam]

:eek: VictorWang delivers! My life has literally be ruined the past 3 days waiting for Conroe results- thanks for putting me out of my misery. :p:

Let's see some 3D!

[VictorWang]

aboard pi_32m, starts sisoft.


cpu multimedia :

[NiCKE^]

Nice a Merom ;) Can't you change the fsb any mike?

[Nazu]

everyone knew it would pwn at SuperPi, the question most people have is overclocking and games, and it looks like we will be waiting a little longer for that to be answered.
According to the preview from Anandtech 2.66GHz does beat FX60@2.8GHz in games and other applications.

[Leon2ky]

That is infreaking sane!

[arisythila]

No he doesn't.

Overclockers with normal sense wouldn't sell the skin of the bear before it's even shotten.

I see the half of this thread saying amd am2 got owned?
may i ask where i already can buy this and can you give me proof of this?
I don't give a :banana::banana::banana::banana: about amd getting pwned or not..
But so far nobody is getting pwned except the previous generation of cpu wich is already there for years..

Agreed. This is Intels next generation of CPU's, We havent seen crap from AMD yet... which sucks... but nice work... this processor looks nice.

~Mike

[Donnie27]

really bad news.
bios has some problem , I cannot add addtional PCIE vga_card or change ram to 1GB*2.

Now pi_32m running

Very nice work VW, nice indeed. This is the model I'm waiting on.

[Leon2ky]

Do what I'm doing, wait till 2008 to buy a new rig ^_^.

[ceevee]

Do you guys think



it is time



to buy stock in Intel??? (looks like the stock price has gone down a lot)

what do you think?

[Leon2ky]

Do you guys think



it is time



to buy stock in Intel??? (looks like the stock price has gone down a lot)

what do you think?

Go ahead, I want AMD's to go down a tad anyway so I can pick more up. :p

[xgman]

How is Intel achieving the superpi advantage at lower speeds like that though?

[nachthymnen]

This is a CPU monster!!!And no CB...
No chance for AMD to beat this beast:eek:

[RimRam]

Do you guys think



it is time



to buy stock in Intel??? (looks like the stock price has gone down a lot)

what do you think?
short AMD, margin buy Intel. and then wait till AMD's 65nm come out, then do it again in reverse order.
Rambus's stock was around $15 before they signed w/ AMD 3 months ago. Now it is around $38.79. I also look into OEM stocks. specially Dell.
Edit: Just a tip. Not responsible if you lose your shirt in Stock Market.

[arisythila]

Go ahead, I want AMD's to go down a tad anyway so I can pick more up. :p


Me too, I got 1000 shares in AMD, when they were 14 dollars a few years ago.. I want them to go down again.. :-)

[mikeguava]

How is Intel achieving the superpi advantage at lower speeds like that though?

The large L2 cache should have a fair amount responsibility of the performance leap in 1Ms

[Disposibleteen]

The large L2 cache should have a fair amount responsibility of the performance leap in 1Ms
The conroe used in this test has the same amount of L2 cache as the 9xx series dual core CPUs have so that cannot be the reason. Im thinking the reason is the shortend 14 stage pipeline Intel used in Conroe and this made it more efficient per clock than their older CPUs with the longer 31 stage pipeline.

[Donnie27]

Do what I'm doing, wait till 2008 to buy a new rig ^_^.

I'm getting Conroe soon as it ships. I will replace my 3500+ with an X2 after their becoming dirt cheap after being made low value by much cheaper and faster Conroes.

[VictorWang]

very very very good news...

conroe 2.4Ghz can runing more fast.
I saw even when sys dle, there are 25% cpu_load.
that's a bios issue.

I believe that... some days later, 2.4ghz stock running can break 19s ;)

[BitpowerPM]

can you do Cinebench 2003 please. ? :) :) :) :)

[mikeguava]

The conroe used in this test has the same amount of L2 cache as the 9xx series dual core CPUs have so that cannot be the reason. Im thinking the reason is the shortend 14 stage pipeline Intel used in Conroe and this made it more efficient per clock than their older CPUs with the longer 31 stage pipeline.


You right - this architecure is mostly responsible for this - but having 4MB L2 vs 2MB ( 9XX) helps quite a bit for 1Ms - that's all I wanted to bring across

[BrownTown]

The conroe used in this test has the same amount of L2 cache as the 9xx series dual core CPUs have so that cannot be the reason. Im thinking the reason is the shortend 14 stage pipeline Intel used in Conroe and this made it more efficient per clock than their older CPUs with the longer 31 stage pipeline.

incorrect, the 900 series has split L2 chache, so SuperPi only gets 2MB, on Conroe it gets all 4MB, or twice as much as any other CPU to date.

also, about that 25% in BIOS, woudl that really affect it that much? cant it just be running on the other core that SuperPi isn't using?

[CRUSH-ER]

Holy moly Victor. Good stuff. July can't come fast enough damnit. :slobber:

[ozzimark]

aboard pi_32m, starts sisoft.


cpu multimedia :
so much much more integer power a huge drop in floating point. :D

[Kjaks]

very very very good news...

conroe 2.4Ghz can runing more fast.
I saw even when sys dle, there are 25% cpu_load.
that's a bios issue.

I believe that... some days later, 2.4ghz stock running can break 19s ;)

It could be the other way, that it really IS idle, and that the 25% cpu_load is a bug within the os.

[PMAer]

73K on Sisandra Mmedia???

That's Insane :O

[Sentential]

o_0 ... woa

[SoulGG]

lol, 370 toooo ohhhhhhh sayyyy 90?

Jump ship time!

[Ad1tya]

Awesome!!!!!
Conroe 4TW!
I wanna see this monster @ 3.5 GHz + !!!!

[n00b 0f l337]

I wanna see at 5ghz.

[pik-ard v1.1]

lol, 370 toooo ohhhhhhh sayyyy 90?

Jump ship time!
what are you reffering too? people viewing the intel vs. amd forum? it's over 400 now viewing intel. :D

and what happened to the 32M super pi? or did the image not load and i missed it somewhere? i thought he said he started it?

[BrownTown]

315$ is the price of this chip :slobber:

so, now that 3 people have these chips we need a Conore overclocking competition thread!!

[freecableguy]

We'll see if the Asus P5DWG2-WS can handle the Conroe soon....

[n00b 0f l337]

4050 is the max for 9x @ 450fsb :(

[VictorWang]

what are you reffering too? people viewing the intel vs. amd forum? it's over 400 now viewing intel. :D

and what happened to the 32M super pi? or did the image not load and i missed it somewhere? i thought he said he started it?


I interupt the pi_32m benching 'cos of the bios problem.
i now working with some good guys for some software Overclk tools.

[Donni]

We'll see if the Asus P5DWG2-WS can handle the Conroe soon....

mhhhh.... ? I hope it !

[StixxX]

sweett..This puppy is going to shows scores never been heard of.I can see 60K for 3dmark1 and 25k coming 4 3dmark 2005.Let the madness beginng and hopefully the P5DWG2-WS works.Since I aw sure quite a few people have that board n would luv it f was conroe proof:p: Guess you can only tell us FCG:D

Intel nice job on the conroe.Makes my Dothan seem slow:clap:

[Vapor]

What's the current 1M WR?

Me thinks it's in reach of an air OC with these beasts :slobber:

[BrownTown]

4050 is the max for 9x @ 450fsb :(
oh no, only 4G, that would be very disapointing...:slap:

[zakelwe]

I interupt the pi_32m benching 'cos of the bios problem.
i now working with some good guys for some software Overclk tools.

It would be good for at least 1 of 3 ( VW, FCG, F ) to get some overclock so fingers crossed, a lot of pople want to see how well these do at least on air so we can judge how Intel is going to roll them out and which to go for.

Is it possible to do a pifast test, Hexus flavour ? Traditionally pifast has liked the AMD over Intel so it would be nice to compare.

Also, not sure what you meant about the pcie slot but 2001 car low and lobby high, is that a possible?????

Regards
Andy

[vapb400]

Conroe E6600 2.4GHz ------ $315
256x2 DDR2-533 4-4-4 ---- $39
965G mobo with buggy bios--$~100

21s superpi @ stock.....priceless

[n00b 0f l337]

Conroe E6600 2.4GHz ------ $315
256x2 DDR2-533 4-4-4 ---- $39
965G mobo with buggy bios--$~100

21s superpi @ stock.....priceless
O RLY?

[proth]

Damn.. 3:00AM Shanghai time. Thank you Victor

[i found nemo]

No he doesn't.

Overclockers with normal sense wouldn't sell the skin of the bear before it's even shotten.

I see the half of this thread saying amd am2 got owned?
may i ask where i already can buy this and can you give me proof of this?
I don't give a :banana::banana::banana::banana: about amd getting pwned or not..
But so far nobody is getting pwned except the previous generation of cpu wich is already there for years..


yep preach it brother.

[vapb400]

It would be good for at least 1 of 3 ( VW, FCG, F ) to get some overclock so fingers crossed, a lot of pople want to see how well these do at least on air so we can judge how Intel is going to roll them out and which to go for.

Is it possible to do a pifast test, Hexus flavour ? Traditionally pifast has liked the AMD over Intel so it would be nice to compare.

Also, not sure what you meant about the pcie slot but 2001 car low and lobby high, is that a possible?????

Regards
Andy
i think he meant that the BIOS will not allow the 16x GFX card to display anything.

Im excited for some DI/LN2 action on the 2.66 chip.....400x10? 450x10? :)

[railer]

I interupt the pi_32m benching 'cos of the bios problem.
i now working with some good guys for some software Overclk tools.
Looks like you might have corupted OS. I sujest a clean install. Did you just drop the cpu in into the sys that already had OS wiyh other Cpu? I remember Dothan killing my old OS, it had same effect as yours at idle my cpu load would show 20-30%

[freecableguy]

9x should not be the max multi with an ES chip (I hope). Also, I think the chips that FUGGER and I have may infact be 2.4Ghz chips also as the 2.13Ghz 4MB cache Conroe is not going to be a production chip (it will be the highest single core with 2MB cache).

[n00b 0f l337]

Maybe we'll see 600fsb eventually.

[K.I.T.T.]

Any idea how much the fsb on the new generation of intel mobos will go to? eg, on my DFI nF4, you can select upto 450 MHz, but doubt it'll go much over 400....

Hopefully atleast 450 MHz can be done stably :)

[freecableguy]

FSB needs to go to AT LEAST 333 for stock 1333Mhz XE Conroes. I think we will see in the 600Mhz range (maybe even more). Think 2.4Ghz FSB or higher. :)

-FCG

[mikeguava]

Any idea how much the fsb on the new generation of intel mobos will go to? eg, on my DFI nF4, you can select upto 450 MHz, but doubt it'll go much over 400....

Hopefully atleast 450 MHz can be done stably :)


450 will be a stretch - 350FSB seems to be the norm , 400mhz the max - 450+++ mhz only with vmods and cooling on current platforms

EDIT: but FCG is right - I assume the next gen mobos should make hopefully a big step forward in that departement

[adeoliver]

Great news keep the intel coming.

[K.I.T.T.]

howabout if you think about it % wise rather that absolute mhz wise? Eg, most NF4 mobos will go around 280 Mhz = 40% increase over stock, and the best ones will do 350 MHz = 75% increase.

So theoretically, most will do ~370 FSB with the best ones doing maybe 450 MHz if you consider % increases.

No evidence, but just a thought that i had :)

Hopefully Victor, FUGGER or FCG will be able to confirm this once they try other mobos :)

[mr_knowitall15]

*wants to see 666fsb speeds! :devil:
Aslo i nearly shat myself when i saw <<<<< What i made my new sig.
cant freaking wait for these to be availiable retail.

[Zeus]

If 21seconds comes this easily, any guesses what a Conroe at 3GHz will do?
16seconds? 15?:slobber:

[NiCKE^]

Comeon FCG give us some reports on the P5WDG2-WS + Conroe booting.

[Siki3d]

If 21seconds comes this easily, any guesses what a Conroe at 3GHz will do?
16seconds? 15?:slobber:

my guess would be 15-16

[NiCKE^]

15ish 16ish? Nah more like 17 I bet, but I'm probably wrong.

[C Stat B]

Conroe seems amazing then ... 21 seconds is insane ...

[integral]

here in Israel, @hwzone, we are looking at this thread, totally amazed, and awaiting to see results at 3+ Ghz.

:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

http://hwzone.co.il/community/index.php?topic=174896.0

[Eastcoasthandle]

very very very good news...

conroe 2.4Ghz can runing more fast.
I saw even when sys dle, there are 25% cpu_load.
that's a bios issue.

I believe that... some days later, 2.4ghz stock running can break 19s ;)

That's nothing I posted before that I saw an intel slide (photos of it) of a Conroe doing a Super PI in 17.xx secs. I couldn't see which version of conroe it was. I assumed it must have been the XE model.

[Doctor Ice]

^^ agreeing with my friend here

lifting my jaw from the floor and drooling all over

[K.I.T.T.]

Dont quote me on this, but i reckon ~13 secs should be doable on air ;)

[Repoman]

I don't know, that would require a 54% increase over 2.4GHz, maybe add 100-200MHz since it's MHz:pi times aren't linear, that would be >3.6GHz on air cooling

Maybe it's possible though, who knows :)

[Harshal]

Thank you VW... Killer @ Stock and can think of a serial-killer @ oc. Also hope to see it work with atleast one asus board available right now...

[prox51]

Congrats Victor. :toast:

Have u any picture of this little toy? :D

[DeMagH]

@victor
just wondering why dont u edit the first post with new results and answers of the many questions here?

[the farmer]

Maybe because he's in bed.

Time in Shanghai (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=237)

[Dragex]

Conroe E6600 2.4GHz ------ $315
256x2 DDR2-533 4-4-4 ---- $39
965G mobo with buggy bios--$~100

21s superpi @ stock.....priceless
I am expecting something like this:

Conroe 2.4Ghz - - - - $350
2Gb DDR2 (or maybe 4 for vista?) - - - - $150-200
Mobo - - - - $200

Thats what I expect it to be for me in the end. Sorry to disrupt this thread tho :slap: . Also I wanted to ask, if anyone would be so nice as to PM me the type of mobo that will be needed for Conroe (Fugger? FCG? VW?) and the type of recomended ram, as im totally new to the Intels and DDR2. Thank you for your patience.

And ofcourse, sweet score VW have fun with your Conroe and please keep us posted :banana: .

[mine]

nice Victor, looks like you beat me by about 6 hours! pls share your MB and BIOS version. :)

now its about time
let the magic happen

6 hours....... (and 4 days now )

hundreds are eagerly waiting

opened another sixpack
fresh pizza napoletana
gave the dog a walk




:stick: :stick: :stick: :stick:

[vapb400]

I am expecting something like this:

Conroe 2.4Ghz - - - - $350
2Gb DDR2 (or maybe 4 for vista?) - - - - $150-200
Mobo - - - - $200

Thats what I expect it to be for me in the end. Sorry to disrupt this thread tho :slap: . Also I wanted to ask, if anyone would be so nice as to PM me the type of mobo that will be needed for Conroe (Fugger? FCG? VW?) and the type of recomended ram, as im totally new to the Intels and DDR2. Thank you for your patience.

And ofcourse, sweet score VW have fun with your Conroe and please keep us posted :banana: .
lol yea i was talking about his current conroe setup, that is a far from optimal setup for me.
http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/1023_large_conroe_pricing.jpg
latest conroe pricing^^

[rozzyroz]

wow, with some decent cooling we may even see some single digit spi 1m times :eek:

cant wait for a good bios for these. what is the 985 chipset supposed to offer over the 975/965?

[Eastcoasthandle]

wow, with some decent cooling we may even see some single digit spi 1m times :eek:

cant wait for a good bios for these. what is the 985 chipset supposed to offer over the 975/965?
I've only seen the 985 mentioned in threads only. Someone show me an article or link that says intel is making a 985chipset? They made it clear that they are making a 965 chipset....where is the 985 chipset information at?

[vapb400]

wow, with some decent cooling we may even see some single digit spi 1m times :eek:

cant wait for a good bios for these. what is the 985 chipset supposed to offer over the 975/965?
just guessing

support for 1333 FSB
ICH8 southbridge
complete conroe support from the beginning
dual real 16x slots??
probably some other nifty stuff as well.

[althes]

very good results

[Doctor Ice]

965 supose to have "native" support for conroe as well
they're only there to support the conroe, or the 945 would of been sufficient

[breakfromyou]

how does merom compare to conroe?

AMD is going to have to do something crazy to keep up with this.

[AkXb70]

Victor - any chance you can run a lower multi - so we can compare Conroe VS Merom @ 2.0GHZ

TY
conroe and merom are identical cores (merom is just the 'mobile version' and so will likely be made with slower switching, cooler running transistors, or perhaps just be binned conroe processors), so performance difference will be nill provided the fsb/supporting hardware is the same.

[boostedevo]

Nice Victor! I hope we'll be able to see some OC results soon. Can you shed more light the mobo? I was going to wait and see if Asus put a new 975 board for Conroe, but if the 965s are looking good, I'll get a P5B Deluxe (P965). I was just worried they wouldn't OC as well.

Thanks for coming through on this Victor, I think a lot of people were starting to climb the walls ;)

[Maxxpower]

Intel rulez....this cpu is a real revolution....

[Pinnacle]

At over 3 volts wow. Thats alot of volts

[Absolute_0]

It's 1.2v actual, CPUZ is off...

[PMAer]

@Pinnacle: Ah.. CPU-Z cannot get accurate info on the Conroe.. since it (conroe) hasn't been really released yet ;)

VW said that he only used the stock Vcore of 1.2V..

[demek]

@victor
do you can do something for me ?
please run s_pi 16mb and cinebench 2003

[Pinnacle]

It's 1.2v actual, CPUZ is off...


Oh I see

[AkXb70]

@victor
do you can do something for me ?
please run s_pi 16mb and cinebench 2003
something thats always bugged me...its NOT megabyte...

[demek]

something thats always bugged me...its NOT megabyte...
sorry, my bad
16M :)

[ubi]

Cinebench 2003 would be really great!

[kiwi]

I feel like throwing my yonah to recycle bin :p: :D

[demek]

:woot:

[n91htmare]

OR this.

[kiwi]

See? It is already 20-80 ratio. I predicted 10-90 or more :D

[ewitte]

something thats always bugged me...its NOT megabyte...

actually megabit

mb=megabit
MB=MegaByte

[Gonwee]

:woot:

It was 406/90 earlier.

Can we stop with all the useless post? I just want to read about conroe, i don't actually care how excited all of you are.(and i don't think i speak only for myself)

Can't there be one thread about the 3 conroes that doesn't get filled with useless post, drowning out the actual results(that people really want to see)

[incurable]

actually megabit

mb=megabit
MB=MegaByte
:stick: Actually, actually:

Mb = MegaBit, MB = MegaByte


PS: Rather lame way to subscribe to this thread, I know. :woot:

[pik-ard v1.1]

actually megabit

mb=megabit
MB=MegaByte
wouldn't mb be millibit? :D

Mb = megabit.

ya know, if we were gonna actually follow standards or something. (pah, the computer industry doesn't need standards)

in other news, the conroe looks freakin awesome. i was GOING to look into an X2 in a few months, but now i may have to reconsider.

[Durzel]

Awesome results there... can't wait for Conroe! Q3 2006 cant come quick enough!

[boostedevo]

Victor, can you please tell me/us what the max FSB in the BIOS is on that board? With such low multis on Conroes, I've been dying to know if the PLL chips have been replaced with faster ones....I know there's at least 500MHz PLLs are out there and was wondering if the new boards would step up with those to go along with the low multis ;) Thanks!

[integral]

VICTOR,

you are becoming famous here in Israel (Home of the CONROE).

http://hwzone.co.il/news/1144186949/58172/

[dinos22]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :YIPPIE: :YIPPIE: :YIPPIE: :YIPPIE: :YIPPIE: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :sonic: :sonic: :sonic: :sonic: :bounces: :bounces: :bounces: :bounces: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:


Man this is fast - awesome Victor!
what he said ^^^^^^^^^^^

this is ABSOLUTELY amazing to say the least

[cirthix]

Wow

[BrownTown]

not really sure why everyones going so crazy over some SuperPi scores. We already knew based on Yonah that Conroe would own in SuperPi, and Merom already proved this. But what we should also all realise is that these SuperPi 1M scores are not very indicative of average performance increases. They are probably the strongest point for Conroe, so of course it owns everything in SuperPi. However there are also things it is weak at where the gains will not be very good at all. Don't be expecting Conroe to own everything just cause it does at SuperPi.

[perry_78]

What happened to the Conroe @ 3.4ghz thread :confused:

[jebo_4jc]

not really sure why everyones going so crazy over some SuperPi scores. We already knew based on Yonah that Conroe would own in SuperPi, and Merom already proved this. But what we should also all realise is that these SuperPi 1M scores are not very indicative of average performance increases. They are probably the strongest point for Conroe, so of course it owns everything in SuperPi. However there are also things it is weak at where the gains will not be very good at all. Don't be expecting Conroe to own everything just cause it does at SuperPi.
This is true. As somebody pointed out to me, Conroe's adaptave cache means that one of the cores has access to all of the cache for single threaded apps, like superpi. Superpi likes cache. So, the 4MB cache certainly helped superpi an extraordinary amount.

[kiwi]

No, it is not just SuperPI. It ownz in 3d as well and I am sure it will do very well in other appz :D
It was 406/90 earlier.

Can we stop with all the useless post? I just want to read about conroe, i don't actually care how excited all of you are.(and i don't think i speak only for myself)

Can't there be one thread about the 3 conroes that doesn't get filled with useless post, drowning out the actual results(that people really want to see)

I am afraid this is not possible, there've always been like this before and probably will be. For pure results threads must be locked. And I don't think moderators would spend time deleting 400 useless posts in one thread :)

[jebo_4jc]

What happened to the Conroe @ 3.4ghz thread :confused:
What happened to all of the Fugger/FCG Conroe threads? :eek:
I'm thinking we've been dramatically letdown here......:nono:

[integral]

How do you pronounce "conroe", does it sound as "conroy" or more like "conro"? We have an argument here :D

[EZClock]

Impressive results. I cant wait to see if it works on the P5WD2-WS. If so, we will see the SPI1mb record broken w/o breaking a sweat. *Subscribes*

[WeedJunk]

How do you pronounce "conroe", does it sound as "conroy" or more like "conro"? We have an argument here :D
My guess is "conro" :banana:

[mikeguava]

not really sure why everyones going so crazy over some SuperPi scores. We already knew based on Yonah that Conroe would own in SuperPi, and Merom already proved this. But what we should also all realise is that these SuperPi 1M scores are not very indicative of average performance increases. They are probably the strongest point for Conroe, so of course it owns everything in SuperPi. However there are also things it is weak at where the gains will not be very good at all. Don't be expecting Conroe to own everything just cause it does at SuperPi.


agreed - but we can expect nevertheless a big improvement in Intel previous weaknesses.

That combined with most likely being immune to coldbugs - makes this a very attractive platform for overl:banana::banana::banana::banana:ers and Xtreme benchers - hence a lot of us being very excited

[Leon2ky]

OR this.


That crap is plain out getting old. :slapass:

[perry_78]

That 4mb cache access would explain a deal, but makes perfect sense architectually why they would do that.

I'm just guessing Intel asked FCG/FUGGER to remove their own results?

[BrownTown]

agreed - but we can expect nevertheless a mayor improvement in Intel previous weaknesses.

That combined with most likely being immune to coldbugs - makes this a very attractive platform for overl:banana::banana::banana::banana:ers and Xtreme benchers - hence a lot of us being very excited

eh, last I checked Yonahs werent going much over 3G, but don't think i've seen any Xtreme cooling on them yet. So far I'd say its way to early to expect good overclockability from this chip.

[dinos22]

not really sure why everyones going so crazy over some SuperPi scores. We already knew based on Yonah that Conroe would own in SuperPi, and Merom already proved this. But what we should also all realise is that these SuperPi 1M scores are not very indicative of average performance increases. They are probably the strongest point for Conroe, so of course it owns everything in SuperPi. However there are also things it is weak at where the gains will not be very good at all. Don't be expecting Conroe to own everything just cause it does at SuperPi.
SPI is all i care about :D