Anyone oc-ing X1800GTO?

[TopGear57]

not too bad TopGear57

I think the voltage problem might be a driver one

Are you sure u cant go higher with the core?



yeah i have tried going 637 on the core at that same voltage but have only had a couple times where it would pass 3dmark05 with that, i need to be able to give it more voltage but everytime i go above 1.2 volts it will always lock up in 3dmark no matter what i am at on the core even at stock, if its over 1.2v then it will lock up.

Anyway there seemed to have been a good amount of people with xl's who had the same problem as me with not being able to go more than around 1.2v give or take .05 without locking up, here is the thread.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=78054&page=46

None of them seemed to figure out exactly why that was the case other than maybe the cores were weaker and couldn't take the voltage. So i am hoping that it is somehow not a bad core and that its something i can fix, but i don't know. I am using the catalyst 6.3 drivers ever since i did pokey's bios flash technique which made it detectable as an xl i suppose, since before when i just force flashed the xl bios with winflash i was not able to install the 6.3's and when i installed the 6.4's it said gto in 3dmark. I will probably try out the 6.4's again or maybe wait for the 6.5's but i am not counting on them helping.

[KoHaN69]

topgear54- heat prblems?

[kosmonova]

Hi, I'm using x850xt@ 605/605 now. Am I buy x1800gto ? which is faster ?

[KoHaN69]

Hi, I'm using x850xt@ 605/605 now. Am I buy x1800gto ? which is faster ?

x1800gto will give you equal or better performance with smart shader3

If you get connect3d, u can flash to 16 pipes, and that will deffiently pwn the x800

[Coustang]

If you get connect3d, u (can:nono: ) flash to 16 pipes, and that will deffiently pwn the x800


You may be able to flash to 16 pipes if you're lucky. Don't purchase a GTO thinking 16 pipes is a sure thing.

As seen here.http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=4457429&postcount=49 A connect3d that is not unlockable.

[KoHaN69]

You may be able to flash to 16 pipes if you're lucky. Don't purchase a GTO thinking 16 pipes is a sure thing.

As seen here.http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=4457429&postcount=49 A connect3d that is not unlockable.

Yeah, let me correct that.
As of 4-28-06 ALL (3 so far) CONNECT3D X1800 GTOs ARE UNLOCKABLE FROM www.MONARCHCOMPUTER.COM ($188 AR)

copy and pasted from ocworkbench post:

NEW FINDINGS!!

Ok, after finding out that some people got the DEVICE ID to change, and thus enable all the controls in ATI Tools, I thought I would give it a shot.

WARNING: This involves clearing your BIOS. There is good chance that you may not be able to recover your card from this if something goes wrong. Make sure you have a spare PCI video card or something for backup, in order to reflash.

I downloaded the empty bios from techpowerup.com and the sapphire xl bios from there as well. i wrote a batch file to flash the empty bios and then the sapphire bios from DOS using ATIFlash. Copy and paste the following lines to a new text file and then rename is as flash.bat or something:
atiflash -newbios -f -p 0 empty.bin
atiflash -newbios -f -p 0 sapxl.bin

save atiflash, the empty.bin and the sapphire bios to your boot disc. rename the sapphire bios to sapxl.bin (unless you like using the "~1" in the file name -- edit the .bat accordingly, of course). reboot to DOS using your disc, cross your fingers, and run the .bat file.

ATIFlash 3.09 (http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/bios/atiflash309.zip)
Empty.bin to clear bios (http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/100/images/empty.bin)
Sapphire X1800 XL bios (http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/Sapphire.X1800XL.256.Samsung14_050923.bin)
Thanks to Techpowerup.com for providing the bios images and the tools!
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/7023/deviceid5cf.jpg

now, ATITool recognizes the sensor chip and is able to change the voltages. I will play with it more soon..


question:
wouldnt this render the card useless?

i mean, u just flashed it with xl bios, and its 1.4ns ram, while the gto is 2.0ns ram,

correct?

[pokey006]

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/4720/100007qm.th.gif (http://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?image=100007qm.gif)


10K with 12pipes finally:woot:

[TopGear57]

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/4720/100007qm.th.gif (http://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?image=100007qm.gif)


10K with 12pipes finally:woot:



thats a great score for only 12 pipes, it makes mine look like crap dangit, however i would think yours would still be a little higher with such high clocks.
what voltages were you running for those clocks? Were you running all those applications in the background when you did the test? Were you using the ati tray tools tweaks? What speed were you running on your cpu?

[Winterwind]

ordered myself PowerColor X1800GTO
it should be here in a week or so - and if it gets here then ill give you results:)

[KoHaN69]

ordered myself PowerColor X1800GTO
it should be here in a week or so - and if it gets here then ill give you results:)

NN:eek: :eek: :eek: !!!! should of got Connect3D from monarch!!

[Winterwind]

NN:eek: :eek: :eek: !!!! should of got Connect3D from monarch!!
what? i live in europe, i cant buy cheap stuff like u us guys:mad:
and its not sure i can unlock that disabled quad so i dont count on it:)

[emo]

:p: Here comes my HIS X1800GTO which running with 12Pipeline only now. I will try flashing in a X1800XT bios in it later:cool:

[althes]

good luck probably wont work though

[pokey006]

thats a great score for only 12 pipes, it makes mine look like crap dangit, however i would think yours would still be a little higher with such high clocks.
what voltages were you running for those clocks? Were you running all those applications in the background when you did the test? Were you using the ati tray tools tweaks? What speed were you running on your cpu?

1.5v on the core, 2.011 on Mem. Yes, those services and programs were running I forgot to disable them before I started, the CPU is running AT 334X9.

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8417/101007iw.th.gif (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=101007iw.gif)

This one's a little better.

[Winterwind]

insane results:eek:
2.0ns mem @ 1650mhz - this is phuckin unreal:woot:

[KoHaN69]

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/kohan69/x1800gto/boxtop.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/kohan69/x1800gto/boxbottom.jpg

Yes, it's on the f---ing box


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/kohan69/x1800gto/nb_heatsink.jpg

I had to rape my heatsink even more to fit. The card is as long as the width of my motherboard :slapass:


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/kohan69/x1800gto/boot.jpg

I heard that's normal


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/kohan69/x1800gto/topcard.jpg

The heatsink isn't too great of a design, but the artwors is awesome!
Hot chicks with Katanas, the best marketing ever ;)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/kohan69/x1800gto/mem.jpg

2.0ns


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/kohan69/x1800gto/core.jpg

R520 (I'm keeping the pics 56k-friendly, I have much higher resolution originals, if anyone would like)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/kohan69/x1800gto/x1800gto_stock_atitool.jpg

0x27E4 is the magic number

System:
2ghz opteron, 200mhz 2x512 ocz ram, all stock
win2k sp4


Stock benchies:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/kohan69/x1800gto/att_x1800gto_stock.jpg

3dmark03
500/500 11856

3dmark05
500/500- 6639


After bgnome's flash:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/kohan69/x1800gto/x1800gto_stock16_atitool.jpg

0x3FE4 is the magic number

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/kohan69/x1800gto/att_x1800gto_stock16.jpg

3dmark03
500/500- 15266

3dmark05
500/500- 7321

530/590- 8077


Ati tool goes nuts on overclocking, the screen flicks, and it never detects artifacts (even on the 'old mode', instead it just artifacts in windows and/or freezes)

I want to control the voltages but I dont get the XL flash, how can i flash to xl when the XLs ram is 1.8ns?!

[pokey006]

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/kohan69/x1800gto/boxtop.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/kohan69/x1800gto/boxbottom.jpg

Yes, it's on the f---ing box


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/kohan69/x1800gto/nb_heatsink.jpg

I had to rape my heatsink even more to fit. The card is as long as the width of my motherboard :slapass:


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/kohan69/x1800gto/boot.jpg

I heard that's normal


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/kohan69/x1800gto/topcard.jpg

The heatsink isn't too great of a design, but the artwors is awesome!
Hot chicks with Katanas, the best marketing ever ;)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/kohan69/x1800gto/mem.jpg

2.0ns


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/kohan69/x1800gto/core.jpg

R520 (I'm keeping the pics 56k-friendly, I have much higher resolution originals, if anyone would like)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/kohan69/x1800gto/x1800gto_stock_atitool.jpg

0x27E4 is the magic number

System:
2ghz opteron, 200mhz 2x512 ocz ram, all stock
win2k sp4


Stock benchies:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/kohan69/x1800gto/att_x1800gto_stock.jpg

3dmark03
500/500 11856

3dmark05
500/500- 6639


After bgnome's flash:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/kohan69/x1800gto/x1800gto_stock16_atitool.jpg

0x3FE4 is the magic number

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/kohan69/x1800gto/att_x1800gto_stock16.jpg

3dmark03
500/500- 15266

3dmark05
500/500- 7321

530/590- 8077


Ati tool goes nuts on overclocking, the screen flicks, and it never detects artifacts (even on the 'old mode', instead it just artifacts in windows and/or freezes)

I want to control the voltages but I dont get the XL flash, how can i flash to xl when the XLs ram is 1.8ns?!


It's the same timing as the GTO

[KoHaN69]

pokey- no, the bios says 1.4ns

http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/Sapphire.X1800XL.256.Samsung14_050923.bin

from
http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/?search=x1800&Submit=Search

Is techpowerup wrong??

[MiCr]

Hello all

I have a few questions and i hope you can help me.

I have a club3d card and the pipe select is 0x227e4 so it is not flashable to 16 pipes right? And what are the max with stock cooling for you?

I have flashed the bios like pokey006 said with the xl bios and newbios and then without newbios and it worked fine. :)

Now i can push the voltage a little but what should be the max?

I have testet with ati tool and with stock voltage my pc crashed @ 598,5.
then i give 1,25v to the core and it goes up to 640.

But the temp of the voltage regulator is going up to 70* is this normal?

Core temp the same max 72 is this too hot?

And whats with the mem can i give it 1,95v 24/7 with stock cooling or is it to much the mem can go up to 630 with stockv.

And with 1,93 just 648 this is not much i think with 1,95 it can do 650 max :(

Sry for the bad english

greetz :)

[pokey006]

pokey- no, the bios says 1.4ns

http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/Sapphire.X1800XL.256.Samsung14_050923.bin

from
http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/?search=x1800&Submit=Search

Is techpowerup wrong??

Yes the XL is 1.4ns but they didn't make a new bios for the GTO with 2.0ns timings it has the same timings as the XL at 1.4 which is probably why I can clock so high in the ram.

[pokey006]

Hello all

I have a few questions and i hope you can help me.

I have a club3d card and the pipe select is 0x227e4 so it is not flashable to 16 pipes right? And what are the max with stock cooling for you?

I have flashed the bios like pokey006 said with the xl bios and newbios and then without newbios and it worked fine. :)

Now i can push the voltage a little but what should be the max?

I have testet with ati tool and with stock voltage my pc crashed @ 598,5.
then i give 1,25v to the core and it goes up to 640.

But the temp of the voltage regulator is going up to 70* is this normal?

Core temp the same max 72 is this too hot?

And whats with the mem can i give it 1,95v 24/7 with stock cooling or is it to much the mem can go up to 630 with stockv.

And with 1,93 just 648 this is not much i think with 1,95 it can do 650 max :(

Sry for the bad english

greetz :)

First, you need to look into some aftermarket cooling but with stock cooling I wouldn't go more than 1.3 on the vcore and 1.95 on the mem. The heat from the core is what's holding you em back.

[KoHaN69]

Yes the XL is 1.4ns but they didn't make a new bios for the GTO with 2.0ns timings it has the same timings as the XL at 1.4 which is probably why I can clock so high in the ram.

But... if the timings are the same (internal mem timings) What is the 1.4ns and 2.0ns, not timings?
I'm confused :confused:

[megatron]

But... if the timings are the same (internal mem timings) What is the 1.4ns and 2.0ns, not timings?
I'm confused :confused:
Its like the difference between 200Mhz fsb and 2225 for BH-5 ram or 3448 for high latency DDR500 (250Mhz).

Ive spotted a place selling the x1800xt for the same price as x1800gto, 625core 1500mem vs 500core 1000 mem and 12 pipes. Its still got 256Mb - I looked at some reviews and for the games I play atm mostly America's Army based on UT2004 engine; the speed was the same. Based on that Im still happy with my x800gto @16 pipes 550/550. When UT2007 comes out hopefully there will be a x1900gto. I heard some talk of this too: http://sg.vr-zone.com/?i=3577

[KoHaN69]

Its like the difference between 200Mhz fsb and 2225 for BH-5 ram or 3448 for high latency DDR500 (250Mhz).


I'm sorry, that does not make it any clearer for me :(


Ive spotted a place selling the x1800xt for the same price as x1800gto, 625core 1500mem vs 500core 1000 mem and 12 pipes. Its still got 256Mb - I looked at some reviews and for the games I play atm mostly America's Army based on UT2004 engine; the speed was the same. Based on that Im still happy with my x800gto @16 pipes 550/550. When UT2007 comes out hopefully there will be a x1900gto. I heard some talk of this too: http://sg.vr-zone.com/?i=3577

X1800XT for $190?! Don't think so...

The X1900GT/GTO launch was delayed til August, to get rid of R520 cores.
Unfortunetly, the x1900GTO might be 256mb. All, in all, there won't be a segnificant performance increase between the 256mb x1800 and 256mb x1900.
I would not get a new video card (unless you are on x700/6600) til' mid 2007.
Since Vista will come with DirectX 10, and a whole new generation of cards to support it.

[mascaras]

the officialy launch of x1900GT is in 9 May , but some ppl already got one .


the one that will be launch in august its the x1900GTO with new chip (RV570) .

regards

[KoHaN69]

the officialy launch of x1900GT is in 9 May , but some ppl already got one .


the one that will be launch in august its the x1900GTO with new chip (RV570) .

regards

methinks
New chip = bad
since they can be made 12pipe only :eek:

[megatron]

I'm sorry, that does not make it any clearer for me :(



X1800XT for $190?! Don't think so...
Since Vista will come with DirectX 10, and a whole new generation of cards to support it.
In the UK, that is and its £170 for either; which probably means the x1800gto is overpriced anyhow. I wouldnt pay £170 for a cut down previous gen part in any case though.:fact:

Ill need to see some games I want to play that my current card cant handle for me to upgrade; or I see a complete bargin.

[Winterwind]

methinks
New chip = bad
since they can be made 12pipe only :eek:
no its not if it oc-s better thanks to 80nm and is cooler + faster + cheaper:rolleyes:

[KoHaN69]

no its not if it oc-s better thanks to 80nm and is cooler + faster + cheaper:rolleyes:

Hmmm... ok. If it's under $230, it may be a consideration.

[althes]

i hope so also

[kosmonova]

hi,

all connect3d x1800gto's unlock 16 pipes ?? is it unlock %100?

[quake6]

I dont know how to mod bios,so does anybody have modded gto 16 pipes bios?Can you sent at email: quake@email.t-com.hr. Thanks

[KoHaN69]

I dont know how to mod bios,so does anybody have modded gto 16 pipes bios?Can you sent at email: quake@email.t-com.hr. Thanks

Read this thread before asking :slapass:


Connect3D x1800 GTO UNLOCKED

i think i have had success unlocking my connect3d x1800gto. i have tried to post my results at ocworkbench.com but there isn't much activity there relative to videocards. since you guys seem to be pretty interested, i thought i would let you know about my findings.

since my registration on this site hasn't gone through yet, i thought i could try PMing some of yall. i have posted the details in a gaming forum that i moderate, including a snapshot of the ATITool readout and the newly edited bios. it turns out that my original bios was exactly the same as pyr0's, so yall may have some luck.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1222326





As of my progress, I flashed my card with bnomes, then to 'enable temo control'
i did

atiflash -newbios -f -p 0 empty.bin
atiflash -newbios -f -p 0 s18xl.bin

however, when i try to glash it back to
atiflash -newbios -f -p 0 stokbios.bin
or
atiflash -f -p 0 stokbios.bin

i get no video at and after boot.

???????

Another thing, I can change the voltages with ati tool, but 1.075 and 1.3 does not make me gain 1mhz, and rivatruner doesnt see them changed

:help:

[B]
edit:

I GOT IT!!

TO enable voltage control
i used ati flash 309

atiflash -newbios -f -p 0 empty.bin
atiflash -newbios -f -p 0 s18xl.bin

then in windows, using ATIWinflash106
I flashed it back to the modified connect3d 16 pipe bios
and now i can change my volts :woot:

[KoHaN69]

As my post above states, I was finalyl able to enable my temps (aim me: kohan69, I'lll help u personally if u need)

however, i ran into the 1.2v problem with the core as well:

yeah i have tried going 637 on the core at that same voltage but have only had a couple times where it would pass 3dmark05 with that, i need to be able to give it more voltage but everytime i go above 1.2 volts it will always lock up in 3dmark no matter what i am at on the core even at stock, if its over 1.2v then it will lock up.

Anyway there seemed to have been a good amount of people with xl's who had the same problem as me with not being able to go more than around 1.2v give or take .05 without locking up, here is the thread.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=78054&page=46



Currently, I'm abusing my mem:

700mhz @ 2.2v mem, i/o: 2.0v

Running on stock heatsink, with the fan 100% duty and another 20mm fan blowin at the voltage regulaotrs at full speed.

Will post some results soon (unless my card dies :p: )

update:
max mem clock at stock volts (1.9/1.9) is 684mhz, not too bad for stock cooling

Start artifacting at 693mhz ram, even at 2.2v/2.2v :( Seems that 700mhz mark was a stroke of luck
Possibly heat-related, although the top of the heatsink (my mobo is horizontal) is barely warm


update2:

Stable clocks for core and mem together:

http://img280.imageshack.us/img280/3050/x1800gto165506501cq.jpg


Something is very wrong with that score, I got higher with lesser clocks....

[TopGear57]

Use ati tool, ati overclocker sucks and loosens the timings of your ram

[KoHaN69]

Loosening the timings kills the performance in most games, afaik
I'll try CCC later with the 6.4gtos

I really wish I could do more than 1.11v on the core, sometimes 1.2 is ok, but most of the time it crashes in 3dmark, so im stuck under 570mhz >.<

Ati tool kept crashing the card, I got older version (beta 12 instead of beta 14)

Here are some results:

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6162/x1800gto165556806kr.jpg

I may not need that high of voltage on the ram

[saboya]

So, most Connect3D X1800GTOs are moddable after all? Where did you guys bought yours? Newegg has 60 bucks rebate, Monarch doesn't, anyone got theirs at Newegg by any chance? tia

[KoHaN69]

So, most Connect3D X1800GTOs are moddable after all? Where did you guys bought yours? Newegg has 60 bucks rebate, Monarch doesn't, anyone got theirs at Newegg by any chance? tia

Monarch did have the rebate last week, you missed it :(

From the 3 people I spoke with who got theirs on NewEgg, they did not unlock,
but 3 (me, bnome, and some1 else on this forum) who got theirs from monarch, did unlock

I do not know what to suggest for you now, maybe wait and see the price og the x1900gto/gt in 4 days

[saboya]

Monarch did have the rebate last week, you missed it :(

From the 3 people I spoke with who got theirs on NewEgg, they did not unlock,
but 3 (me, bnome, and some1 else on this forum) who got theirs from monarch, did unlock

I do not know what to suggest for you now, maybe wait and see the price og the x1900gto/gt in 4 days
I'm kinda lost on video cards, I don't wanna get something too expensive because that seems to me like throwing money out of the window, but I also want to run my games decently. I'll probably stick to a 7600GT, although I'd really like to get back to ATI, miss my 9800se@xt+. I was on a 6800GT, sold it, now I got a 6600GT... It's ok, but pretty weak =P

Thanks for the fast answer.

[KoHaN69]

I'm kinda lost on video cards, I don't wanna get something too expensive because that seems to me like throwing money out of the window, but I also want to run my games decently. I'll probably stick to a 7600GT, although I'd really like to get back to ATI, miss my 9800se@xt+. I was on a 6800GT, sold it, now I got a 6600GT... It's ok, but pretty weak =P

Thanks for the fast answer.

I'd stick with ATI
even if it doesnt unlock to 16pipes, the gto for $180 is much better than 7600gt for $160

Due to the fact that it's 256bit, and 7600 is 128bit memory bandwidth.

If you got good cooling, and are lucky the 7600 will make up for the bandwidtrh in MHz

But all in all, I'd go with a X1800, even at all stock, at 1280x1024 almost all games are at the highest settings.

[SkeptiKal]

What aftermarket cooling do you guys suggest for this card?

I can get 700Mhz on the core without a problem but my memory seems to be topping out at 650ish.

Breaking 9k in 05 wasn't too hard (even with my moderately clocked system).

[KoHaN69]

What aftermarket cooling do you guys suggest for this card?

I can get 700Mhz on the core without a problem but my memory seems to be topping out at 650ish.

Breaking 9k in 05 wasn't too hard (even with my moderately clocked system).

nice! :clap:

What card do you have?
Details please :)

I suggest water :p

[saboya]

I'd stick with ATI
even if it doesnt unlock to 16pipes, the gto for $180 is much better than 7600gt for $160

Due to the fact that it's 256bit, and 7600 is 128bit memory bandwidth.

If you got good cooling, and are lucky the 7600 will make up for the bandwidtrh in MHz

But all in all, I'd go with a X1800, even at all stock, at 1280x1024 almost all games are at the highest settings.
The thing is, I live in Brazil, so if I want something from newegg, I have to import with someone, since I can't buy directly because I'd have to pay 60% tax over the price. And there's a 7600GT that I could buy herer that is much cheaper (would be like US$ 60,00 cheaper). 128-bits isn't really a problem since it has enormous memory clock, and I'll definetly have good cooling, I'm gonna adapt one of these:
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/35-106-030-01.JPG

Hope to get a good clock. If the 16 pipes thing was guaranteed, I'd stick with the GTO, but I think my return to ATI will take a little longer hehe

[SkeptiKal]

nice! :clap:

What card do you have?
Details please :)

I suggest water :p


Its a saphire card. I dont have water cooling so thats out of the question. Was looking for something cheap but effective (is there such a thing?).

[Winterwind]

http://www.vihanepc.com/x850xt/keiss.jpg
Volcano12 Extreme..
its Socket A cooler with adjustable fan
if u like to oc then just turn it to 6k rpm and u got a killer:D
http://www.artmodding.com/images/TTvolcano12.jpg

[margusser]

my Pc, my pc:slapass: :slapass: :woot: :woot:

[KoHaN69]

Winterwind- clocks/temps/benches?
c'mon this is XS, not hardocp

[SkeptiKal]

Would slapping a stock X2 heatsink on this card be beneficial? Anyone do such a thing?

[jkyle]

Thanks for a great thread found this post on google search and when I first flashed my 1800gto all I got was a black screen (ick) After flashing the empty bios and the xl bios bingo :) wouldnt have got it unless I read up on what you guys accomplished. Mine is a HIS card which has the gto sticker over a xl label.

[KoHaN69]

Thanks for a great thread found this post on google search and when I first flashed my 1800gto all I got was a black screen (ick) After flashing the empty bios and the xl bios bingo :) wouldnt have got it unless I read up on what you guys accomplished. Mine is a HIS card which has the gto sticker over a xl label.


Good to hear mate!
And welcome to XS :toast:

[nunchucka]

hi all.

i had a powercolor 1800GTO which didnt mod either, but i hit 9000 in 3dmark05 with it at 685/700 clocks. but i got the chance to upgrade to a 1800XT for $100 canadian so i did heh..

all i can say is that even tho the GTO was powerful, it cant touch the XT's 512meg of ram which ingame does help ALOT.

i was one of those that said the diff between a 256meg and 512meg card was minimal but i now have to say i am very inpressed by the 1800XT which i also have stock with the saphire PE bios kicking it to 700/800 in 3D.

sits at about 68 degrees at that in my very full case ingame.

[KoHaN69]

hi all.

i had a powercolor 1800GTO which didnt mod either, but i hit 9000 in 3dmark05 with it at 685/700 clocks. but i got the chance to upgrade to a 1800XT for $100 canadian so i did heh..

all i can say is that even tho the GTO was powerful, it cant touch the XT's 512meg of ram which ingame does help ALOT.

i was one of those that said the diff between a 256meg and 512meg card was minimal but i now have to say i am very inpressed by the 1800XT which i also have stock with the saphire PE bios kicking it to 700/800 in 3D.

sits at about 68 degrees at that in my very full case ingame.

512mb x1800xt? you should invested $50 more and gotten a x1900 ;)

[nunchucka]

well up here $370 is a great price for the x1800xt. the x1900xt is going around 600+ so i only have so much budget :(

[Winterwind]

could anyone make a short guide to flash GTO
how to verify if its unlockable and so on..
how to flash and what bios use.

i should get my PowerColor tomorrow

[quake6]

I agreed with Winterwind.Small guide how to flash x1800gto to xl

[Winterwind]

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7772/05def8su.th.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05def8su.jpg)
7k is def @ 05
btw my card has 06 core:)

someone please guide what to do for giving it more voltage..
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/5494/img37595ch.th.jpg (http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img37595ch.jpg)
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/3551/img37618ho.th.jpg (http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img37618ho.jpg)
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8928/img37639is.th.jpg (http://img130.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img37639is.jpg)
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/8995/img37644dx.th.jpg (http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img37644dx.jpg)
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9557/img37660hw.th.jpg (http://img130.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img37660hw.jpg)

[fast76]

I've finished my mod today - I'm very gratefull to Bgnome and TopGear57 - my results:
HIS X1800 GTO 500/500 Stock cooler => X1800 XL 643/693 Zalman 900Cu
3D marks - 01:33 594 - 03:17 605 - 05:9775
Aquamark - 94 916 - GFX 14 430, CPU 14 040

Voltages: GPU 1.250, mem 2,201, 2,001

All that with Intel Dothan 750 (OC to 2.8GHz - 13x215 FSB) on AIR not waterblocks - See you later AMD :-)))))

How to do it? http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=454158&page=2 - post #45

And finally some advice - when you rising voltage, take a look to rivatuner monitor of "voltage regulator output" - when it does'nt change, nothing changes - sliders in AtiTool means nothing.

[tvdang7]

these still unlocking thinking about getting the connect 3d one from newegg. brand new.

[KoHaN69]

these still unlocking thinking about getting the connect 3d one from newegg. brand new.

:nono: GRAMMAR POLICE!! :slapass:

The NewEgg ones don't unlock, from what I heard (~3-4 people)


Pokey has the volting procedur in previosu pages - look for it.

[mascaras]

i sell my 7900gt and receive a X1800XT 512mb just 1 hour ago for 260€ :D

its just more 60€ than x1800gto and its better .



1st 3dmark 2005 run without format hard drive got 9500marks @default :D


Opty 165@2700mhz || X1800XT 512Mb @ Default @ stokcooler||
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5089/x1800default2no.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


regards

[Winterwind]

How to do it? http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=454158&page=2 - post #45


doesnt work..
ok, now i got that voltage adjustment in atitool
but voltages still wont change atleast not according to rivatuner monotoring:(
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/228/img37670jx.jpg

no luck...
flashing it with empty.bin doesnt work
i can see voltage control with atitool but changeing voltages dont make any diffrence at all

[higgins]

i sell my 7900gt and receive a X1800XT 512mb just 1 hour ago for 260€ :D

its just more 60€ than x1800gto and its better .



1st 3dmark 2005 run without format hard drive got 9500marks @default :D


Opty 165@2700mhz || X1800XT 512Mb @ Default @ stokcooler||
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5089/x1800default2no.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


regards

Nice mate.

I've got to choose between an X1800XT 512MB and a 7900 GT for the same price. It's hard... The 7900GT clocks really good esp with the vmod but the x1800 has 512MB. I'm limited to 1280x1024 though so...

[Winterwind]

CPU: Intel Pentium D 920 2,8GHz 2X2MB L2 cache @ 4,2GHz
MB: Asus Socket 775 P5WD2
RAM: 4 x 512MB Kingston DDR2 PC2-3200 400MHz @ 450MHz
GFX: PowerColor X1800GTO 500/500 @ 666/666

3D Mark 2005 Score 9024
http://img316.imageshack.us/img316/3333/6666665kq.th.jpg (http://img316.imageshack.us/my.php?image=6666665kq.jpg)

ok, got it work, but im stuck with 12 pipes..
nevertheless nice card:)

edit:

CPU: Intel Pentium D 920 2,8GHz 2X2MB L2 cache @ 4,2GHz
MB: Asus Socket 775 P5WD2
RAM: 4 x 512MB Kingston DDR2 PC2-3200 400MHz @ 450MHz
GFX: PowerColor X1800GTO 500/500 @ 702/702

3D Mark 2003 Score 18251
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/555/7027028xm.th.jpg (http://img396.imageshack.us/my.php?image=7027028xm.jpg)


edit:
whats the best X1800GTO score @ 3dmark 03? :)

[megatron]

doesnt work..
ok, now i got that voltage adjustment in atitool
but voltages still wont change atleast not according to rivatuner monotoring:(
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/228/img37670jx.jpg

no luck...
flashing it with empty.bin doesnt work
i can see voltage control with atitool but changeing voltages dont make any diffrence at all
To me it doesnt look like u are using the correct files. It looks as if you are trying to flash 2 empty bios'?:confused:

I read the artical and file 1 was saphxl
and file 2 was modded x1800gto@16 bios or original bios (if non-moddable).

Thats if I havent got the wrong end of the stick - cause that looks pretty far off the mark from what the tutorial said...

[Winterwind]

nono - XL bios went on just fine but it didint like that empty bios..
anyways - ATiWinflash helped and i can change voltage now:)

[Winterwind]

ok, best that i can do for now:

3D Mark 2003

CPU: Intel Pentium D 920 2,8GHz 2X2MB L2 cache @ 4,5GHz
MB: Asus Socket 775 P5WD2
RAM: 4 x 512MB Kingston DDR2 PC2-3200 400MHz @ 482MHz
GFX: PowerColor X1800GTO 500/500 @ 765/724

3DMark Score 19643
orb: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4783672
screen:
http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/2412/765724030qv.th.jpg (http://img506.imageshack.us/my.php?image=765724030qv.jpg)


3D Mark 2005

CPU: Intel Pentium D 920 2,8GHz 2X2MB L2 cache @ 4,5GHz
MB: Asus Socket 775 P5WD2
RAM: 4 x 512MB Kingston DDR2 PC2-3200 400MHz @ 482MHz
GFX: PowerColor X1800GTO 500/500 @ 765/724

3DMark Score 10026
orb: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2011345
screen:
http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/1958/765724059xl.th.jpg (http://img438.imageshack.us/my.php?image=765724059xl.jpg)


3D Mark 2006

CPU: Intel Pentium D 920 2,8GHz 2X2MB L2 cache @ 4,5GHz
MB: Asus Socket 775 P5WD2
RAM: 4 x 512MB Kingston DDR2 PC2-3200 400MHz @ 482MHz
GFX: PowerColor X1800GTO 500/500 @ 702/702

3D Mark Score 4783
screen:
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/865/765724064ax.th.jpg (http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=765724064ax.jpg)

pretty nice for 12 pipe card:D

[megatron]

I've finished my mod today - I'm very gratefull to Bgnome and TopGear57 - my results:
HIS X1800 GTO 500/500 Stock cooler => X1800 XL 643/693 Zalman 900Cu
3D marks - 01:33 594 - 03:17 605 - 05:9775
Aquamark - 94 916 - GFX 14 430, CPU 14 040

Voltages: GPU 1.250, mem 2,201, 2,001

All that with Intel Dothan 750 (OC to 2.8GHz - 13x215 FSB) on AIR not waterblocks - See you later AMD :-)))))

How to do it? http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=454158&page=2 - post #45

And finally some advice - when you rising voltage, take a look to rivatuner monitor of "voltage regulator output" - when it does'nt change, nothing changes - sliders in AtiTool means nothing.


OK guys i have got it, thanks to pokey006's help from another forum, i now have the exact method that should get all your voltage changing option working in ati tool. You can check in rivatuner when you increase your gpu voltage and it should now change as its supposed to.

Get atiflash 3.09 and put both files on a floppy
Next download sapphire xl bios from techpowerup.com and throw that on the floppy as well, i changed the name of my bios to a short name so it works easy in dos such as sapxl.bin
Next you can download Bgnomes modified bios from here if you have a card that unlocks to 16 pipes like mine.x1800GTO Modified Bios

If yours does not unlock to 16 then you can just use your default GTO bios for this step.

Anyway copy that bios to your floppy as well, i named mine gtomod.bin
And last thing you can make a flash.bat file by just making a new text document and inserting the lines exactly as shown here

atiflash -newbios -f -p 0 sapxl.bin
atiflash -f -p 0 gtomod.bin

after you put those 2 lines in the text file, save it and then rename it to flash.bat and of course throw that onto the floppy as well

You should now have 5 different files on the floppy, 2 bios's, 2 files from ati flash 3.09 and also the flash.bat file.

That's it now you can go boot to dos and run the flash.bat file and if all goes well you should have a x1800Gto thats able to change all voltages and show temps in AtiTool.

Thanks Goes to Pokey006 and Bgnomes for their help on Getting this all to work.

Last but not least Flash At Your Own Risk!

Have A Nice Day!

There

[Winterwind]

CPU: Intel Pentium D 920 2,8GHz 2X2MB L2 cache @ 4,5GHz
MB: Asus Socket 775 P5WD2
RAM: 4 x 512MB Kingston DDR2 PC2-3200 400MHz @ 482MHz / 3-3-3-8
GFX: PowerColor X1800GTO 500/500 @ 765/751 (12 pipelines!)

3DMark 2005 Score 10141
link: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2017036
http://img414.imageshack.us/img414/1994/05best6cf.th.jpg (http://img414.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05best6cf.jpg)

best that i can do...

[hixie]

Sorry, if it's been asked already, but what cooling are you using?

[Winterwind]

Sorry, if it's been asked already, but what cooling are you using?

custom made watercooling with 480L/H pump and custom radiator + 2 x 120mm fans + waterchill gpu block and custom made cpu block..
i have both Presler and Radeon cooled by same system:)

messy system:
http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/4940/img37070kp.th.jpg (http://img326.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img37070kp.jpg)
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5561/img37016yo.th.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img37016yo.jpg)

cpu block on right:
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6123/dhgjkjjfda5kw.th.jpg (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dhgjkjjfda5kw.jpg)

[hixie]

Hmm .... i know someone that did 108XX points on a opteron CPU and GTO. Both CPU and GPU were watercooled. Can you get that score? I don't know exactly what it is but on the picture he posted there was something dodgy about it.

[Winterwind]

10.8k is impossible for me cos i have 12 pipes and i cant enable that closed quad:(
but nevertheless 10.8k sounds too high to me but maybe im wrong
and amd gives such a great boost..

but that 10.8k dude should run other marks aswell, like 2003 and 2006.
then well see if hes right or wrong.. he should go over 20k and 5k on those marks if hes 2005 score is correct...

and i want orb links not some xxx screens

[hixie]

His was a GTO with 12pipelines, not unlocked.
I'll add you on MSN so we can talk about it. Cause this involves a competition and i don't really want to name people in public.

[pokey006]

I get about 10.5k on 3DMark05 with my GTO which is only 12pipe, but it's OC'ed like hell. 801/900:woot:

[Winterwind]

I get about 10.5k on 3DMark05 with my GTO which is only 12pipe, but it's OC'ed like hell. 801/900:woot:

wtf? 2.0ns mem @ 1800mhz? what cooling and what voltages?:eek:

[pokey006]

wtf? 2.0ns mem @ 1800mhz? what cooling and what voltages?:eek:

1.55v on the core 2v on the mem, watercooled

[Winterwind]

orb links? sond like xxx to me:nono:

[KoHaN69]

orb links? sond like xxx to me:nono:

stfu and read this whole thread

[pokey006]

stfu and read this whole thread

Don't worry KoHaN, i'll humor him this time....
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2019179

[KoHaN69]

Don't worry KoHaN, i'll humor him this time....
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2019179

You're a lucky man Poke, my connect3d x1800 gto is stuck at 560MHz core, even with 16 pipelines (any overvolting on core, even at stock speeds, makes it crash)
My memory might go that high though, did you loosen the timings?

[Winterwind]

quite interesting - no clocks on orb..
might aswell use 16 pipes and lower clocks to say it has 12 pipes and higher clocks

stfu and read this whole thread
eh? u seriuosly belive that 2.0ns mem can do 1800mhz with 2.0v?
excuse me but i dont

ok maybe im wrong but maybe im not..
it might aswell be some other radeon than GTO..
orb cant make a diffrence between them

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1796507
if there wouldnt be clocks and i wouldnt have filled description
then how could you say which card im useing?

so pokey006 show your voltage settings(exact!!!) and clock..
make a screen or somth
and run other 3dmarks aswell - you should be over 20k @ 03 with ease

[KoHaN69]

ok maybe im wrong but maybe im not..
it might aswell be some other radeon than GTO..
orb cant make a diffrence between them

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1796507
if there wouldnt be clocks and i wouldnt have filled description
then how could you say which card im useing?

so pokey006 show your voltage settings(exact!!!) and clock..
make a screen or somth
and run other 3dmarks aswell - you should be over 20k @ 03 with ease

:slapass:


Ok, I didn't notice you had 16 pipes unlocked, insead of the stock bios flash with a GTO bios modded for 16 pipes with out the -newbios command line to retain the 16 pipes. The only thing you want is to be able to adjust the voltage, in ATiTool, which for some odd reason can't be done with just the XL bios. It has to be flashed to XL fully then back to GTO without -newbios to preserve the ROM settings of the GTO.

:slapass:

http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/1383/untitled0855383vv.gif


:slapass:


Please, we're trying to help each other, not stop your useless scepticism

[Winterwind]

730/730 is common to GTO
i have seen few guys having mem almost up to 800mhz
but now one guy is talking about 900mhz..
well if one can do it then others should aswell!
ok, maybe not me but i havent seen any other dude with mem clock over 900mhz.
thats whats fishy about!

what bios, what timings, what voltages
even not all 1,2ns XT-s can do 900mhz for mem

and KoHaN69 before u start saying stfu look who made this thread!
im not saying that pokey006 is liar but i want more info and proofs

[user0001]

So....

Buy? (http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=190827&Category_Code=atihq)

[KoHaN69]

So....

Buy? (http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=190827&Category_Code=atihq)


YaY! rebate's back

But you will most likely get the connect3d that unlocks to 16 pipelines, and is at 560/700 than a card that stuck at 12, but does 700+/700+

[user0001]

Could someone (or a few peeps) throw up some 3DMark06 shots? I'd like to see the difference in the graphics score between something like a 12p 700/700 and a 16p XL-ish.

05 scores dont help when everyones got different CPUs, RAM, etc.

I'm on the fence with this card and I almost bought it from NewEgg when they had it for $174 AR

[|SiLA|]

worth changing my gto2 to this 1800gto?this one Radeon X1800GTO 256MB PCI_E Sapphire Lite Retail

[KoHaN69]

worth changing my gto2 to this 1800gto?this one Radeon X1800GTO 256MB PCI_E Sapphire Lite Retail

Same or slightly better performance as x800gto2, but with smartshader3
Unless you get a freaky card like pokeys, that performs on x1900xtx levels :toast:

[ArcTan]

Same or slightly better performance as x800gto2, but with smartshader3
Unless you get a freaky card like pokeys, that performs on x1900xtx levels :toast:hmm what about going from a x1800xl with 2ns ram?

[Winterwind]

hmm what about going from a x1800xl with 2ns ram?
16 pipeline GTO

[|SiLA|]

Same or slightly better performance as x800gto2, but with smartshader3
Unless you get a freaky card like pokeys, that performs on x1900xtx levels :toast:


thanks

but if the average of these new gto's are 700/700 it's not bad

dunno what happenned to my gto

went 6 months away for vacation and my gto2 acts like crap

barely can do 530/560 on water :mad:

[KoHaN69]

hmm what about going from a x1800xl with 2ns ram?

That would be a downgrade


thanks

but if the average of these new gto's are 700/700 it's not bad

dunno what happenned to my gto

went 6 months away for vacation and my gto2 acts like crap

barely can do 530/560 on water :mad:


Get latest omega drivers

Underclock it, run 3dmark03 for 5 hours
do that for 3 days
then increase the clocks back up by 20mhz a day, and run 3dmark05 for 5 hours, everyday from then on, until ur back to ur overclock

The core is liek a car engine, but less predictable

[zakelwe]

Don't worry KoHaN, i'll humor him this time....
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2019179


But that says your cards clocks are reported as

N/A
N/A

:confused:

Regards

Andy

[Shadowmage]

Not to thread-crap, but the X1800XL 256MB cards are selling for roughly $200 now (one was for $170 refurb) on Newegg... a small premium for guaranteed unlocks.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?DEPA=0&type=&Description=x1800xl&Submit=ENE&Ntk=all&N=0&minPrice=&maxPrice=&Go.x=0&Go.y=0

[pokey006]

But that says your cards clocks are reported as

N/A
N/A

:confused:

Regards

Andy

I know, i'm not the only one on ORB with clocks at N/A, there are a whole bunch on there like that. I can't help that it doesn't read the clocks correctly.:slapass: http://http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/4291/untitled28wv.th.jpg (http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled28wv.jpg)


http://www.fileshack.us/files/2091/Bios%20Files.rar
Here is the link to the two bios file I used apparently it loosens the mem timings a little. One is Sappxl.bin that should be flashed first using the -newbios command line, the r520.bin without the -newbios command using atiflash3.09. Flash at your own risk, but be sure you're using something other than stock cooling, the trick to getting the mems that high is to get rid of some of the heat off the pcb. Also set votages in atitool to around 1.525 on vcore, and 2.054 on vdimm.

[nav3]

For the people who say it impossible to unlock a sapphire x1800gto they are wrong I have unlocked mine, since my floppy drive did not want to work for some reason I had to use ati win flash and it wouldent let me flash the empty bios so I just flashed the xl bios and it worked I got 7500 3dmarks in 05 with it unlocked at stock speeds.
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6707/frednugent2lz.th.jpg (http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=frednugent2lz.jpg)

[ArcTan]

That would be a downgrade
yeah I sorta know that but 2ns ram won't go far I think
I had a x700pro with samsung GC20 which only did 520

[KoHaN69]

yeah I sorta know that but 2ns ram won't go far I think
I had a x700pro with samsung GC20 which only did 520

no-no-no these are complete different generation of ram chips, they're uncomparable

[ArcTan]

no-no-no these are complete different generation of ram chips, they're uncomparablenot sure what you mean?
I've got GC20 on my x1800xl as well

[nav3]

So I guess no one really cares that its possible to unlock a sapphire card.

[Marty Shaw]

So I guess no one really cares that its possible to unlock a sapphire card.

yeah I care !!

I have 2 of the X1800GTOs that I'm using in Crossfire mode, sure would like to get more of a boost,
You are using sapphire X1800 XL BIOS????
and it opened the other 4 pipes??

Power.....

need more powahhh:cool:

I've been peeping here for a while, and I am ready to try & flash these boys. Have Arctic cooling's Accelero X2 on them....I am ready, who's bios did you use??

[pokey006]

So I guess no one really cares that its possible to unlock a sapphire card.

I care. How did you do it?

[KoHaN69]

Anyone bipass the voltbug? (Running a gto's core on anything higher than 1.1volts ?)

[nav3]

I am using the bios they showed a while back the sapxl.bin bios, it seemed to work for me Im sure if more people tried it it would work I brought the volts up to 1.2 but it didnt seem to up my overclock at all, stable Im at 580 core 1200 mem Im tryn' to get my floppy to work so when I do I will be able to up the vdimm Im sorry I was just at a party so you know I will write back properly when Im sober.

[quake6]

I`m using gto bios and i can change voltages and monitor temp.

[KoHaN69]

I`m using gto bios and i can change voltages and monitor temp.

I doubt it. Use rivatuner, to see if your volts are actaulyl changed.


My problem is not that I cannot CHANGE the volts, my problems is that 3D apps become UNSTABLE on anything higher thna 1.05v, on ANY clock

[Winterwind]

kohan u flash with sapphierxl bios and then in windows with atiwinflash to modded gto bios?
i can only change voltage with that modded gto bios..
no other bios works

[TopGear57]

I am using the bios they showed a while back the sapxl.bin bios, it seemed to work for me Im sure if more people tried it it would work I brought the volts up to 1.2 but it didnt seem to up my overclock at all, stable Im at 580 core 1200 mem Im tryn' to get my floppy to work so when I do I will be able to up the vdimm Im sorry I was just at a party so you know I will write back properly when Im sober.



if upping our voltage doesn't help your overclock, you more than likely are not actually changing voltage, it was only after using the flash method pokey006 told me about that i was able to actually properly change the voltage on my card. I have the volt bug on my gpu of course, i can't go above 1.2 without lockups, but my 2ns memory overclocks fine, i have had it to 740 stable, it would probably even go higher if i wanted to up the voltage even more. My core because of the volt bug would only go to 634. Anyway i wrote a little tutorial about the flashing method at ocforums and someone posted it on here a couple pages back, and that would probably get your voltage to actually change for real.

[nav3]

The voltage went up I used rabit to mod the unlocked gto bios and I put it to 1.2 volts it even showed it in rivatuner it just didnt help.

[quake6]

Without changed voltages,i can oc to 595,when i change voltage to 1.175V i can hit 680 and it is stable

[KoHaN69]

OK- everyone please post the card u can change voltages without crashing (his, sapphire, etc)

My card, Connect3dx1800gto unlokc to 16 pipes, can change voltages, but no matter what clock, the core always crashes on anythin more than 1.05v

[Winterwind]

it works with my PowerColor but i can only change voltages with that Connect3D 16p modded GTO bios..
no other bios works - they will enable voltage adjustment but voltage will remain default

[quake6]

I have gecube x1800gto.I flashed empty.bin and then flashed my old gto bios.In atitool i can change voltages,monitoring temp.,before flashing i couldn`t do that.I`ll post pic later beacuse my pc is not working now (waiting new cpu)

[nav3]

I have a sapphire x1800gto and I can change the vcore but it does not help my oc. I cannot change the memory voltage because I cant flash my bois properly(no floppy)

[SkeptiKal]

I have a Sapphire and can change voltages on the core and memory. Both work as they should.

[nav3]

Is anyone here having problems with the ut2004 demo and the x1800gto because everytime I play the demo vpu recovery comes on even when the card was stock and im pretty sure its not the card its self because the first one I got was doing this so i returned it and got another one.

[KoHaN69]

Is anyone here having problems with the ut2004 demo and the x1800gto because everytime I play the demo vpu recovery comes on even when the card was stock and im pretty sure its not the card its self because the first one I got was doing this so i returned it and got another one.

Yeah, many games do that for me.
Driver problems, methinks

[nav3]

Thats good to hear sort of, but now I have a problem I flashed to the unlocked gto bios but it put it back to 12 pipes and now I cant get it back to 16 pipes my 3d mark scores went down to about 6700 and in ati tool the fps on the 3d thing used to be about 225 average and now its 165.

[5n1p3r]

I got a Sapphire. Flashing didn't help at all. It's not a bad XL, because I have BC20 memory. I change my voltages with Overclocker.exe with no problems. on 12 Pipes I reach 720 on the core and 700 on the ram. That's stable. It can go higher but then after half an hour or so of 3D gaming it goes back to factory settings. My Venice E6 3500+ is clocked at 2800Mhz. Altogether I get 30 frames with all eyecandy on in Oblivion. =))) W00T

edit: for anybody interested, that's 1.45V on GPU, 2.2V on GDDR3, and 1.6V on Venice. All aircooled, works like a charm.

[FE4R]

OK, I wanna know off the Bat, I have read thru most of this and I jus wnat to know, how I of an overclock could I get with this card? possible 700 or even 750 on the core? Thats the only reason I can see that will justify me getting a X1800GTO. I can buy one on the egg for 200US, but I can get a 7600GT for 170US.

[heikis]

all the Gecube x1800gto onwer please tell me if you had got the card to change voltages? and what bioses you have used. i will get one gecube in 6 days and would like to skip the unnecessary hassle

[Gunbuster]

tried your method nav3 with my sapphire and still in 12 pipes :(

[atix900]

THANKS POKEY 006

MY X1800GTO O/C

http://img8.picsplace.to/img8/15/3dmark_03_18277_x1800gto_756_900.jpg (http://picsplace.to/)

http://img8.picsplace.to/img8/15/3dmark_05_10050_x1800gto_760_900.jpg (http://picsplace.to/)

http://img8.picsplace.to/img8/15/3dmark_06_4915_x1800gto_756_900.jpg (http://picsplace.to/)

TRY TO O/C THE CORE TO 800 LATER!

[Winterwind]

holy crap - so 900mhz mem is possible?:eek:

[atix900]

holy crap - so 900mhz mem is possible?:eek:
Yes, off cause!:thumbsup:

[FE4R]

and u done all of this without actually Volt Modding the card????

[Pyr0]

very nice :up:
what voltages were you using on the card?
have you changed the cooler?

[atix900]

and u done all of this without actually Volt Modding the card????
YES , SOFTWARE MOD ONLY!:toast:

[KoHaN69]

BASTARDS!!!!!!!!

I'd rather have a 12 pipe card at 700+/700+

than a POS 16 piper at 560/650

BASTARDS!! >.<

(sorry for slight tone of rudeness, but really tho, we need to get past the 1.05 volt limit somehow )

[atix900]

very nice :up:
what voltages were you using on the card?
have you changed the cooler?
GPU:1.5V
RAM:2.2V
I/O VOLTAGE:1.9V
I AM USING OCQQ VGA WATER BLOCK!
FROM:
http://ocqq.com/osc/

http://img8.picsplace.to/img8/15/OCQQ_VGA_WATER_BLOCK.jpg (http://picsplace.to/)

[Winterwind]

and exact instructions of getting 900mhz mem?:)

[Winterwind]

ok, flashed with those pokey006 bioses
no good - sure mem goes now 870 but theres really no point.
with modded GTO bios i scored 200p less in 3dmark 03 and 50p less in 3dmark 06...

pokey006 3dmark 05 score is so good because of that 800mhz gpu clock.
my card wont go so high so i will flash my bios back cos it is faster/colder that way:)

CPU: Intel Pentium D 920 2,8GHz 2X2MB L2 cache @ 4,5GHz
MB: Asus Socket 775 P5WD2
RAM: 4 x 512MB Kingston DDR2 PC2-3200 400MHz @ 482MHz
GFX: PowerColor X1800GTO 500/500 @ 762/864(1746) (12p)

3DMark Score 10209
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2035322

new pb in 05 ~70 points more than older score but mem is 115mhz higher...
is it worth the hassle? :P

[KoHaN69]

Well, at least ur 700+ I CANT BREAK 550 >.<

[nav3]

I can get 580 but now my card wont flash back to 16 pipes.

[atix900]

somemore 3dmark results
http://img6.picsplace.to/img6/21/3dmark03_18622_x1800gto_765_900_2.7g.jpg (http://picsplace.to/)

http://img8.picsplace.to/img8/15/3dmark05_10178_x1800gto_765_900_2.7g.jpg (http://picsplace.to/)

http://img6.picsplace.to/img6/21/3dmark06_4998_x1800gto_765_900_2.7g.jpg (http://picsplace.to/)

final 3dmark05 break 5k
http://img10.picsplace.to/10/3dmark06_5010_x1800gto_766_900_2.7g.jpg (http://picsplace.to/)

[Winterwind]

ok, atix900 your scores doesnt make any sense for me:(

first of all your 2003 score is 18,6 compared to my 19,8
second your 2005 score is same as mine with ~same clocks
but much weaker cpu(i have dualcore)
third - your 3dmark 2006 score is what i cant understand at all...
your cpu score is normal ~1000p
but your SM scores are just too high:rolleyes:

compare your scores to mine:

CPU: Intel Pentium D 920 2,8GHz 2X2MB L2 cache @ 4,5GHz
MB: Asus Socket 775 P5WD2
RAM: 4 x 512MB Kingston DDR2 PC2-3200 400MHz @ 482MHz
GFX: PowerColor X1800GTO 500/500 @ 762/864(1746) (12p)

3DMark 2006 Score 4861 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 1882 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 1909 Marks
CPU Score 2281 Marks

and u are getting 2.2k in SM2 and 2.4k in SM3?
how is that possible? what tweaks? what drivers? lod?
score is just too high for that cpu and clocks:confused:

[atix900]

ok, atix900 your scores doesnt make any sense for me:(

first of all your 2003 score is 18,6 compared to my 19,8
second your 2005 score is same as mine with ~same clocks
but much weaker cpu(i have dualcore)
third - your 3dmark 2006 score is what i cant understand at all...
your cpu score is normal ~1000p
but your SM scores are just too high:rolleyes:

compare your scores to mine:

CPU: Intel Pentium D 920 2,8GHz 2X2MB L2 cache @ 4,5GHz
MB: Asus Socket 775 P5WD2
RAM: 4 x 512MB Kingston DDR2 PC2-3200 400MHz @ 482MHz
GFX: PowerColor X1800GTO 500/500 @ 762/864(1746) (12p)

3DMark 2006 Score 4861 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 1882 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 1909 Marks
CPU Score 2281 Marks

and u are getting 2.2k in SM2 and 2.4k in SM3?
how is that possible? what tweaks? what drivers? lod?
score is just too high for that cpu and clocks:confused:
I AM USING ATi Catalyst 6.5 AND NO TWEAKS AT ALL .

[Winterwind]

I AM USING ATi Catalyst 6.5 AND NO TWEAKS AT ALL .
ok, should give them a try then:)

[FE4R]

WOW

I must say that this x1800gto is looking very atractive to me ovr the 7600GT now.

[atix900]

WOW

I must say that this x1800gto is looking very atractive to me ovr the 7600GT now.

keep going up!


3dmark03
http://img10.picsplace.to/10/3dmark_03_19077_x1800gto_765_918_3g.JPG (http://picsplace.to/)

[atix900]

3dmark05

http://img8.picsplace.to/img8/15/3dmark_05_10346_x1800gto_760_905_3g.JPG (http://picsplace.to/)

http://img6.picsplace.to/img6/21/3dmark_05_10363_x1800gto_760_914_3g.JPG (http://picsplace.to/)

[atix900]

3dmark06

http://img10.picsplace.to/10/3dmark_06_5158_x1800gto_765_918_3g.JPG (http://picsplace.to/)

http://img8.picsplace.to/img8/15/3dmark_06_5174_x1800gto_760_918_3g.JPG (http://picsplace.to/)

[Winterwind]

mwhahaha, atix900 i just relised why your 06 scores are that high..
you are running 1024x768 but its def resolution really is 1280x1024:)

[Winterwind]

ok, should give them a try then:)
no luck, i got lower scores with Cat6.5 than with Cat6.4:rolleyes:

[Inteleron]

so far only the HIS and Connect3D X1800GTO's have been able to unlock? what about Sapphire??

[Winterwind]

so far only the HIS and Connect3D X1800GTO's have been able to unlock? what about Sapphire??
one sapphire here and i know few from russian forums aswell..
and it seems like cards with older cooling(X1800XL reference) unlock and new cooling dont..
any comments about that?

[weasel]

My C3D from Newegg did not unlock. Got the voltage control working flashing new bios' in the following order:
1. empty.bin
2. x1800xl.bin
3. moddedgtobios.rom in windows

I was able to push the clocks to 657/657 with 1,2 on the core, and 2,004 on vddc and vddq. Scored http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2036378 with these clocks.

What would be the safe voltage for core and memory?

[MiCr]

Hello again :)

I got mit h2o cooling and now my temps are :banana: Max 45 on core but i have no special cooling for the mem no heatsinks or somthing like that so i don´t know how much i can give on the mem max 24/7 ?

Core is @ 695 mem 616 can go up too 630 without increase v but what should be the max for ram.


I only have 1 120mm fan blowing from the left along the card so the voltagereg. wont go over 60 whithout the fan they go up too 75 :rolleyes:

[Waxman]

My Saphire won't unlock using the sapxl bios posted.

I flashed the empty bios followed by the sapxl one.

12 pipes as usual.

At least I can change Vgpu and Vmem and already got to 620/610 with 1.2v Vgpu and 1.95v Vmem (3d Stable). But this is a hot card. I got 50ºC full load @ those clocks and vcore.

Room temp around 25º/27ºC. Card is watercooled with a MCW60 and a 120mm rad.

No benching because I can't get my cpu stable on the expert. I have an Optie 146 CABNE capable of 3ghz with 1.4v on a SLI-DR but on the expert I'm unable to get it stable over stock.

[nav3]

My video card is screwing with me I reflashed it to the xl bios again and dindnt bother checking anything and today I took apart my computer cleaned it and put it back together and now Im back at 7500 3d marks I find it pretty odd.

[heikis]

gecube x1800gto:
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/3750/15k6yn.th.jpg (http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15k6yn.jpg)

[nav3]

Uh sorry to burst your bubble but 598 on the mem is not that high I have mine at 630, and I can get my core to 580 with 16 pipes and even that isint that great.

[KoHaN69]

any1 elses card freezes in 3d apps when uping the volts at all?!

[heikis]

any1 elses card freezes in 3d apps when uping the volts at all?!

yup. me :(
590/590 is stable on 1,1V and 1,889V but when I put GPU on 1,2V (still the same clocks 590-590) then it freezes in 3dmarks
and my memory and GPU seem to be maxed out around 600 and 600 :(

[Winterwind]

yup. me :(
590/590 is stable on 1,1V and 1,889V but when I put GPU on 1,2V (still the same clocks 590-590) then it freezes in 3dmarks
and my memory and GPU seem to be maxed out around 600 and 600 :(
give me your card and ill give it a try..
i think u did something wrong

[heikis]

now I got my memory running @ 750MHz, but the GPU is stable @ 610MHz. rising the voltage freezes and rising the GPU speed: freezes.

[Evanc]

I have an HIS X1800GTO OC'd to 700/700 with 1.45V at the core... Mem voltages are unknown as I can't change them. The memory still overclocks very nicely.

I have a crappy cpu though so 3dmark scores aren't that impressive.

Heres a video stress test only using ATI Tray Tools by Ray Adams. You can see what the default score for an x1800xl is...

http://killtek.com/media/members/chron/att700700.jpg

[weasel]

9110 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2054133)

http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3d051bm.jpg

[wildcard]

I have an HIS X1800GTO OC'd to 700/700 with 1.45V at the core... Mem voltages are unknown as I can't change them. The memory still overclocks very nicely.

I have a crappy cpu though so 3dmark scores aren't that impressive.

Heres a video stress test only using ATI Tray Tools by Ray Adams. You can see what the default score for an x1800xl is...

http://killtek.com/media/members/chron/att700700.jpg


What are you using to cool this card? I imagine you managed to unlock the 16 pipes? If so, where did you get your card from?

[KoHaN69]

give me your card and ill give it a try..
i think u did something wrong

nope its the XL voltbug, in another forum:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=78054

[heikis]

nope its the XL voltbug, in another forum:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=78054

so even soldering the voltmods would not work I guess?
2 bad because it would be a very nice card w/o the voltbug :(

[KoHaN69]

apaprenlty only some have it. it's possibly a driver issue, i dont know, but it would be nice if someone told me.

[heikis]

apaprenlty only some have it. it's possibly a driver issue, i dont know, but it would be nice if someone told me.

have you tried different drivers? I have been using only the 6.4 catalysts
-edit-
6.5 and the same.

[DJ_Datte]

I have a question!

Because one can obviously run masterless CrossFire with X1800GTO,
what is stopping our computers from running X1800XT´s or X1900XT´s
masterless?

Obviously, it would not be the perfect solution because of the
performance issues with masterless C/F, but it would be a fun setup to
bench and compare.

I know for a fact that one can run X1800XTs in masterless crossfire, because
I flashed it with my GTO´s bios, and then I could run crossfire. The issue is that my GTO (and XT) can both do around 720/800 with voltage, but I cant change voltage when I have them flashed with the "GTO" bios because AtiTool doesen´t reckognize the cards and allow voltage modifications.

So, is there a way to mod the drivers (the driver gurus here) so we can run masterless XT´s, or any other idea how one could enable voltage mods on the GTO´s so one can test the real performance :)

Fun thoughts ?

/Damir

[Winterwind]

im waiting for second GTO and then ill try CF..
i have pretty bad mobo with 16x and 4x pcie lanes but well see what will happen:)

all X18 cards can do "master-less" CF as far as i know;)

[DJ_Datte]

They can in "theory" but not on paper, as the drivers won´t enable it!

/Damir

[Evanc]

What are you using to cool this card? I imagine you managed to unlock the 16 pipes? If so, where did you get your card from?

I'm using a VF1-Plus. Google it. Also, I have heatsinks on the vregulators with an 80mm fan attached to that part of the card.

[Evanc]

I have a question!

Because one can obviously run masterless CrossFire with X1800GTO,
what is stopping our computers from running X1800XT´s or X1900XT´s
masterless?

Obviously, it would not be the perfect solution because of the
performance issues with masterless C/F, but it would be a fun setup to
bench and compare.

I know for a fact that one can run X1800XTs in masterless crossfire, because
I flashed it with my GTO´s bios, and then I could run crossfire. The issue is that my GTO (and XT) can both do around 720/800 with voltage, but I cant change voltage when I have them flashed with the "GTO" bios because AtiTool doesen´t reckognize the cards and allow voltage modifications.

So, is there a way to mod the drivers (the driver gurus here) so we can run masterless XT´s, or any other idea how one could enable voltage mods on the GTO´s so one can test the real performance :)

Fun thoughts ?

/Damir


Solution: Open up your GTO bios with the new RaBiT2.0a and set voltages to 1.2125. Save the bios, then open the file again, you can then bring the voltages up another 10%. Keep doing this until you get to arround 1.45V and save it and flash it. The X1800GTO will now have 1.45v running to the core. This is the best I can do since I own a GTO. max clocks at 1.45 though are 700/700 for me. I can't figure out how to modify the memory voltages.

[KoHaN69]

So, is there a way to mod the drivers (the driver gurus here) so we can run masterless XT´s, or any other idea how one could enable voltage mods on the GTO´s so one can test the real performance :)

/Damir


yes there is:

use atiflash and do the following:

flash1.bat:

atiflash -newbios -f -p 0 empty.bin
atiflash -newbios -f -p 0 s18xl.bin

reboot

type (probably blindly) flash2.bat

flash2.bat:

atiflash -f -p 0 x18gto.bin


s18xl.bin= sappire x1800 xl bios

x18gto.bin= x1800gto 16 pipeline bios

remember to keep filenames under 8 characters!

bios links lusted in begginning of thread
if u need help finding the bioses, i'll help

[DJ_Datte]

yeah, but that removes the ability to play with masterless CF =)

I am running both the GTO and the real XT I have in XL/XT mode
and it works great for voltages, but then I can´t use CrossFire.

Then I can flash to GTO bios (have to use -newbios, to reset the DevID strings) and play with masterless CrossFire, but then I cant change voltages.

I would like to play with voltages in a CF configuration :D. I know, I am needy :p

/damir

[KoHaN69]

I am running both the GTO and the real XT I have in XL/XT mode
and it works great for voltages, but then I can´t use CrossFire.

Then I can flash to GTO bios (have to use -newbios, to reset the DevID strings) and play with masterless CrossFire, but then I cant change voltages.



after doing 2 flahes I stated above (maybe use XT instead of XL bios) and using the 16 pipelines GTO bios for your XT, you will have an x1800xt that registers as a a x1800gto, with volts and CF

[ganescha]

Hi all,
finaly i made it here, i have been following this post now a few days beacuse i have this :banana::banana::banana::banana:y volt bug or what we should cal it. I was thinking that we should fix this problem. I have been testing every trick in the book about this, flshing with over 10 diff. bios and all the drivers that exsists on the net.
As i understand, if we flash bios with the XL trick we can change volt with ATItool and that works, when i rise the volt in ati tool i get higher volt on the board acording to my mulitmeter. So we do have more volt on the board, but it seems like its not getting all the way to the core ( or can the core be bad on some boards?) Can it be like something that holds it back? like a bigger, to big transistor? Im not good at this things at all.. have only done one vmod on 7600gt before. All you volt moders out there.. what are we gonna look for? what do you think? how can i get in touch with a volt moder who nows what he is doing? What do you other people with the same problem think about this "bug".

[KoHaN69]

Hi all,
finaly i made it here, i have been following this post now a few days beacuse i have this :banana::banana::banana::banana:y volt bug or what we should cal it. I was thinking that we should fix this problem. I have been testing every trick in the book about this, flshing with over 10 diff. bios and all the drivers that exsists on the net.
As i understand, if we flash bios with the XL trick we can change volt with ATItool and that works, when i rise the volt in ati tool i get higher volt on the board acording to my mulitmeter. So we do have more volt on the board, but it seems like its not getting all the way to the core ( or can the core be bad on some boards?) Can it be like something that holds it back? like a bigger, to big transistor? Im not good at this things at all.. have only done one vmod on 7600gt before. All you volt moders out there.. what are we gonna look for? what do you think? how can i get in touch with a volt moder who nows what he is doing? What do you other people with the same problem think about this "bug".

What's happening is that any increase of the voltage of the core causes instability. This is NOT due to heat or overclocking, even underclocked, any increase to the core causes instability

[ganescha]

hmm.. i wounder. But if its like you say then we got bad cores.

[KoHaN69]

hmm.. i wounder. But if its like you say then we got bad cores.


this happens to many XL cards too

[DJ_Datte]

I guess I am lucky, my X1800XT goes from 625 / 750 to 720 / 801
and my X1800GTO goes from 500/500 to 720 / 740, which is a crazy increase in performance and value!

/Damir

[KoHaN69]

I guess I am lucky, my X1800XT goes from 625 / 750 to 720 / 801
and my X1800GTO goes from 500/500 to 720 / 740, which is a crazy increase in performance and value!

/Damir

what company is the gto?

[DJ_Datte]

Both are Sapphire, "lite retail" package.

The XT cost 268$
and the GTO cost 185$

/Damir

[ganescha]

ok, maybe you are right, but i will not belive nothing els before i have hard vmoded the card, so come one help me out here to figure out how to volt mod teh card.

[DJ_Datte]

Why would you hard-voltmod it ? Any diff from the soft voltmod ?

/Damir

[ganescha]

i got some kind of volt bug.. its impossible to get more volt on core then 1.145 stable, max clock 580-590. Maybe its a bad core but idont belive anything els untill i have tryed the hard vmod.

[KoHaN69]

i got some kind of volt bug.. its impossible to get more volt on core then 1.145 stable, max clock 580-590. Maybe its a bad core but idont belive anything els untill i have tryed the hard vmod.

HUrry up and hardmod!! >.<

[ganescha]

yeah well thats why i need your expertise.. i have not a clue how im gonna do it.
please some one help me out here.

[ganescha]

how many Amps does ATI tool show when you overclock with volt v1.2 or higher and runs "show 3d view"?

[Winterwind]

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6122/img37986qw.th.jpg (http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img37986qw.jpg)
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http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/5946/img38104ae.th.jpg (http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img38104ae.jpg)


ok, got HIS and PowerColor now, both flashed with sapphire XL bios and that modded GTO bios but they dont work in CrossFire..
whats the problem?
modded bios doesnt support CF? or what:(

[Winterwind]

noone has tried CrossFire?
i still cant get it to work..
drivers/atitool shows 2 cards, both have same bios
but no CrossFire option in CCC:(

[DJ_Datte]

yes there is:

use atiflash and do the following:

flash1.bat:

atiflash -newbios -f -p 0 empty.bin
atiflash -newbios -f -p 0 s18xl.bin

reboot

type (probably blindly) flash2.bat

flash2.bat:

atiflash -f -p 0 x18gto.bin


s18xl.bin= sappire x1800 xl bios

x18gto.bin= x1800gto 16 pipeline bios

remember to keep filenames under 8 characters!

bios links lusted in begginning of thread
if u need help finding the bioses, i'll help

I did it like that (but with two 1800GTO's), and before mod (original GTO Bios on GTO cards) it worked, but after the mod, the option is there (the menu shows up) but its grayed out. Any thoughts ?

/Damir

BTW, I got two more X1800 GTOs, and both of those wont tolerate any voltage on either memory nor GPU, crashes whitin seconds.

/D

[ganescha]

yeah its bull X1800GTO cards.. sold mine cheap! dont need boring non clockable cards!

[leejsmith]

I just bought a HIS x1800gto turbo from overclockers.co.uk
it flashed to 16 pipes no problem and vcore changes are ok.
with no increase in voltages it ran 580/650 and with an increase from 1.075v to 1.15v it ran 610/650.
i got an increase in 3dmark 05 from 6700 to 9200 over stock settings.

[DJ_Datte]

New Info!!

I compared my wonderfully clocking X1800GTO to my 4 Not-so-Wonderfully clocking X1800GTOS (720/740 with voltage as opposed to lockup if frequency increased _or_ voltage applied) and I found a difference in the
part number.

The P/N for the good GTO ends in 321 / 00001, while the bad GTO's end in 322 / 00002

A change in the design ?

/Damir

BTW, Saph GTO's cost here 160$ now :)

[[XC] Lead Head]

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6122/img37986qw.th.jpg (http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img37986qw.jpg)
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http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/7578/img38007xw.th.jpg (http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img38007xw.jpg)
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/4285/img38029op.th.jpg (http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img38029op.jpg)
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/5640/img38032du.th.jpg (http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img38032du.jpg)
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/575/img38046se.th.jpg (http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img38046se.jpg)
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/4595/img38053vp.th.jpg (http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img38053vp.jpg)
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/8021/img38068xf.th.jpg (http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img38068xf.jpg)
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/2313/img38082yc.th.jpg (http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img38082yc.jpg)
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/5946/img38104ae.th.jpg (http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img38104ae.jpg)


ok, got HIS and PowerColor now, both flashed with sapphire XL bios and that modded GTO bios but they dont work in CrossFire..
whats the problem?
modded bios doesnt support CF? or what:(

Mastercardless crossfire can only be done on the Xpress3200 chipsets.

[Winterwind]

Mastercardless crossfire can only be done on the Xpress3200 chipsets.
why X1600XT and X1600PRO CF worked then?:(

[[XC] Lead Head]

8084 in 3D mark 05
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2076315
(http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2076315)

Stock air cooling
http://www.imagecross.com/images/6066804.jpg

[Evanc]

[QUOTE=Winterwind

ok, got HIS and PowerColor now, both flashed with sapphire XL bios and that modded GTO bios but they dont work in CrossFire..
whats the problem?
modded bios doesnt support CF? or what:([/QUOTE]


Dude, just mod the GTO bios. That way you'll have 16 pipes and you won't need to have a mastercard. I heard the GTO's run in crossfire now with the 6.5's without a mastercard...

[tvdang7]

8084 in 3D mark 05
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2076315
(http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2076315)

Stock air cooling
http://www.imagecross.com/images/6066804.jpg

is that unlocked? if so thats a low score for those speeds and ur cpu needs more overclocking. but if its 12 pipes nice score.

[dario03]

Alright guys I have a HIS X1800gto IceQ3 unlocked to 16 pipes and running 730 core and 730 mem with 1.55 volts on the core and 2.2volts on the mem. My temps get up to 84c on the core and 83c on the voltage regulator, is that safe?
What is the max temp and voltage for these cards?
Is there anything else I can do to get anymore of a overclock?
How long should you run a artifact checker?
Is there anything I can do to get the voltage regulator temps down? Or is that cooled by the stock cooler already?

BTW: my system is
AMD64 3000+ @ 2.51ghz
TwinMos pc3200 2x512mb @ 227mhz 2.5,4,4,9
Asus A8N-E
3dmark05 = ~10,000

[Winterwind]

Dude, just mod the GTO bios. That way you'll have 16 pipes and you won't need to have a mastercard. I heard the GTO's run in crossfire now with the 6.5's without a mastercard...
i tried diffrent bioses non of them enabled CF on intel X955..
so i sold both GTO-s and got one X1900XTX:p:

[heikis]

Alright guys I have a HIS X1800gto IceQ3 unlocked to 16 pipes and running 730 core and 730 mem with 1.55 volts on the core and 2.2volts on the mem. My temps get up to 84c on the core and 83c on the voltage regulator, is that safe?
What is the max temp and voltage for these cards?
Is there anything else I can do to get anymore of a overclock?
How long should you run a artifact checker?
Is there anything I can do to get the voltage regulator temps down? Or is that cooled by the stock cooler already?

BTW: my system is
AMD64 3000+ @ 2.51ghz
TwinMos pc3200 2x512mb @ 227mhz 2.5,4,4,9
Asus A8N-E
3dmark05 = ~10,000

get a silent fan blowing towards the thin heatsink row. that should get the temperature down quite a bit. then maybe try replacing the stock cooler with something better, for example vf900 or something custom-made?
nice card btw :D

[sponge bob]

what is WR for X1800GTO ?

[sponge bob]

http://sponge.ez.pri.ee/data/media/1/9340.JPG
gecube, a64 inbox, gpu max voltage is 1,475, over that is hardlockup :S mem wount overclock :S with def voltage less than 600 mhz :O and with 2,0v 680 mhz

[Drozdov]

here is my X1800GTO 3dmark05 score

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2112750

[sponge bob]

here is my X1800GTO 3dmark05 score

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2112750
wow , give us some info, clocks etc? 16 pipe i guess?

[Drozdov]

yeah 16 pipes, clocks at 720/730 on the stock air cooler

[sponge bob]

yeah 16 pipes, clocks at 720/730 on the stock air cooler
lucky you, what manufactur card is that? and maybe u shear ur bios with us :P

[Drozdov]

its a HIS card. I modified the original bios to unlock the pipes.

post a screenshot of your GB_PIPE_SELECT info from ATI Tool

[sponge bob]

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/1644/pipehg1.png
http://sponge.ez.pri.ee/data/media/1/9605.JPG
little improvment

[Winterwind]

anyone has that relaxed bios with relaxed timings?
pokey-s link doesnt work anymore

[sponge bob]

http://ceemic.pri.ee/upp/overclockedbysponge.JPG
Still on regular aircooling.:stick:
gpu was 1,45 (1,47 :slapass: hardlock ) mem 2,3/2,3v

[AgentVX]

*** Edit: Works now ***
Just leaving this as a reference for others. Your mileage may vary but for me I had to use an earlier version of ATI Flash (3.09) to get 16 pipes AND voltage control fully working in ATI Tool.

Continuing with original post:

Hey guys, having some problems with my HIS X1800GTO which I got today. I followed the instructions given by pokey006 beginning with this post (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1416432#post1416432) and managed to enable 16 pipes, but I get no voltage adjustments with ATI Tool. Initially I wasn't 100% sure about what to do so I simply flashed to the Sapphire X1800XL BIOS which gave me 16 pipes and voltage options in ATI Tool but I soon realised that they weren't actually working (hit a wall at 540/580, no change in temps or voltage when monitored by RivaTuner). Then I followed those instructions to flash to X1800XL then back to modded GTO but ended up with no voltage options in ATI Tool, just 16 pipes. All flashing was done with ATI Flash 3.15 in DOS.

Would appreciate any help/suggestions. Thanks very much.

[sponge bob]

*** Edit: Works now ***
Just leaving this as a reference for others. Your mileage may vary but for me I had to use an earlier version of ATI Flash (3.09) to get 16 pipes AND voltage control fully working in ATI Tool.

Continuing with original post:

Hey guys, having some problems with my HIS X1800GTO which I got today. I followed the instructions given by pokey006 beginning with this post (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1416432#post1416432) and managed to enable 16 pipes, but I get no voltage adjustments with ATI Tool. Initially I wasn't 100% sure about what to do so I simply flashed to the Sapphire X1800XL BIOS which gave me 16 pipes and voltage options in ATI Tool but I soon realised that they weren't actually working (hit a wall at 540/580, no change in temps or voltage when monitored by RivaTuner). Then I followed those instructions to flash to X1800XL then back to modded GTO but ended up with no voltage options in ATI Tool, just 16 pipes. All flashing was done with ATI Flash 3.15 in DOS.

Would appreciate any help/suggestions. Thanks very much.
some results maybe ? :woot:

[AgentVX]

some results maybe ? :woot:

As you wish. :cool:
Best result on stock cooling, 9147 in '05:

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8240/059147ef4.th.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=059147ef4.jpg)

Fan speed locked at 70%, volts were 1.2 / 2.004 / 2.004

Just slapped on a VF900, load temps dropped by 20ºC :eek:

Will see what this baby can really do later. ;)

[jozzy]

@ sponge bob : post #461 is it still 12 pipelines?? using zalman vf900?

[Winterwind]

E6300 @ 2.8ghz
2 x 512mb GSkill @ 800mhz / 4-4-4-8
Asus P5W DH Deluxe
2 x HIS X1800GTO (CrossFire) @ def

3dmark 03
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/1144/03defhx2.th.jpg (http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03defhx2.jpg)

3dmark 05
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1290/05defii0.th.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05defii0.jpg)

3dmark 06
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/3756/06defkn2.th.jpg (http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06defkn2.jpg)

Doom 3 1280x1024 @ Ultra Quality
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8182/d3defka0.jpg

not bad, wonder what those cards would do @ 700/700:)

[leejsmith]

E6600 cpu
p5wdh mobo
gskill 6400hz
ninja cooler
his x1800gto unlocked to 16 pipes and at 620 cpu/650 ram at stock voltages cooling

3dmark 01
http://www.ljsnet.co.uk/core2/c35003d2k1.jpg

3dmark 05

http://www.ljsnet.co.uk/core2/3d05core2.jpg
3d05core2.jpg

[Winterwind]

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1202/untitledak9.th.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledak9.jpg)
HIS X1800GTO @ 16p:woot:
got 2 of them, identical id-s and stuff:D

[Winterwind]

3D MArk 05 @ def
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9193/05deffk2.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05deffk2.jpg)
kills

[Winterwind]

have tried 5 HIS X1800GTO, all from the same batch..
all 5 unlockable

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2697/untitleduz0.jpg

[Gag3]

I have the HIS Excalibur X1800GTO ICEQ3.

Had it flashed to the Sapphire XL BIOS for a while now.. and everything runs sweet.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a182/ZZRiddick/d1e19d4c.jpg

Thats with 16 pipes, 2.7Ghz 3800+ AM2, Corsair PC5400 @ 900Mhz Cas 4,4,4,12. (as you can see :rolleyes: ), and X1800GTO @ 575Mhz Core, 1Ghz Memory.

I must admit, these card's are GREAT.. after downgrading from an X1900XT (flogged the X1900 whilst I could still get some decent cash for it).. this card performs very well.

Mind you, after the flash.. I cannot boost the memory past stock! (500Mhz)

But core can still hit 575 with ease.

The card never break's past 60oC at full load.

[KoHaN69]

not too shabby^

I got rid of mine, looking for a $250 or less x1900xtx now

[shmoo]

after modding my original x1800 iceQ bios with hxden and rabit 2.0, the pipes unlocked but the core would only go to 560 with artifacts and my memory would not overclock whatsoever, everything would lock up, even with increasing the voltages. after reading somewhere that rabit 2.0 reads the memory timings wrong, I ran the original bios through rabit 2.1, then edited it using hxden to unlock the pipes, loaded it up in winflash and now I am making some progress. I set the volts in ATI tool beta 15 to around 1.35/2.09/2.09 and set the fan to 100%, then I open rivatuner first for hardware monitoring, then overclocking. For quick stability checks I open ati tray tools for the 3d window and artifact checking. so far I'm up to 650/650 (i don't have much time to play) but I'm sure I can reach some of the speeds that other peopleare posting finally. oh, and the omega drivers helped too.


NEVER MIND, HERE'S THE ANSWER TO ALL OF OUR PRAYERS:
ATI TRY TOOLS NEW VERSION DOES IT ALL
http://www.frazpc.pl/c/6587

[Winterwind]

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 1.86GHz @ 2.97GHz
MB: Asus P5W DH Deluxe
RAM: 2 x 512MB G.Skill DDR2 PC2-6400 HZ @ 850mhz / 4-4-4-12 / 2.3v
GFX: Club3D Radeon X1800GTO 500/1000 @ 779/706
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1408/05779706mg9.th.jpg (http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05779706mg9.jpg)
3DMark Score 10571
link: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2250260

Catalyst 6.9 / no mods.
6.6 would do better and card should go higher.
but damn that mem, it wont oc like PowerColor did:p:

[Winterwind]

anyone has that pokey-s relaxed timings bios?:(

[Winterwind]

noone?:(

[Foca]

wow this thread is still alive :D
i remember it from the time i got my x1800gto a few months ago, its from Gecube...
currently i cant get much higher than 600/600 and it crashes... ill try raising a little more the voltage as its low by now, i use 100% stock cooling and a closed case so the temps get really high, volts are 1.15 gpu / 1.94 ram and mvddq...
ill post some 3dm05 results tomorrow :)

[Winterwind]

my Club3D does 725/625 with def cooling for 24/7 (fan auto)
temp is under full load 83c and gpu voltage is 1.375v:D

but i need that relaxed timings bios :(

[Foca]

still working on the voltages to try and make it stable above 600 :(

[KoHaN69]

still working on the voltages to try and make it stable above 600 :(

keep ur card at stock clock, and if it crashes by purely voltage increase, it's the voltbug.

[Evil]

Need pokey-s bios. Anyone!!!:( This is what i got with my watercooling and low ambient temperature:
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8103/gtocf3d05hf3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I love R520, serious beasts.:D

[Winterwind]

nice score for 12pp cards:D
mu cards:)

[KoHaN69]

Evil - that's in crossfire, right?


....RIGHT!?! :eek:

[Evil]

Evil - that's in crossfire, right?


....RIGHT!?! :eek:

Of course it is, 12 pipe cards too just like Winterwind said.:)

[Winterwind]

http://img157.imagevenue.com/loc568/th_55115_untitled_122_568lo.JPG (http://img157.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55115_untitled_122_568lo.JPG)
HIS X1800GTO in action, 16pp / watercooled, this is just for teasing:)

[Winterwind]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=123205
few benches:hehe:

[Evil]

Thanks again, Pokey:thumbsup:
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/5945/gto3d05pokeybiosnm7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Beasts on water, low ambient.:D

[dario03]

Hey guys thought I would post this for anyone that cares. I just put some Artic Silver 5 on my HIS x1800gto IceQ3's memory, gpu, and voltage regulators. I'm happy to say that it help with temps and max overclock

Before:
gpu - 730mhz, 84c
mem - 730mhz
vreg - 83c

After:
gpu - 750mhz, 80c
mem - 790mhz
vreg - 77c

Now I don't run at those normally but I think the AS5 help out pretty well. My 3dmark05 went up by about 300 points and temps are lower.

Also, does anybody know how the HIS IceQ3 compares to a Zalman VF700 or VF900?

[C Stat B]

Can someone post the link to or email me the Pokey BIOS please. Thankyou

[Winterwind]

Can someone post the link to or email me the Pokey BIOS please. Thankyou
http://files.to/get/354444/48228/pokey.rar
:)

[C Stat B]

Thanks, I'll try it later today... I got a HIS X1800GTO of a friend for £25 and it has the full 6 MOSFETs so I hope it'll work!:toast: