Argh! Which one?! Someone please help! Time to buy has come

[D_o_S]

So, :brick: I'm :brick: stuck :brick:...

I have narrowed my decisions to the following 2 cases:

http://www.chieftec.de/?page=products_big&id=80&k_id=2&language=uk

http://www.chieftec.de/?page=products_big&id=83&k_id=2&language=uk

And I really REALLY can't decide...

First, what I need to house:
Standard PC (in sig, but 4x Raptors)
Water cooling:
Eheim HPPS with plugon res
BIX2
Alphacool Nexxxos
(GPU blocks perhaps)

I need it to be expandable, so I can fit more rads/pumps, etc...

I need the mobo tray to be removable, so I can service parts easily... I do not want to flip a cube ;)

(How do Mountain Mods users service their PCs? Removable mobo tray?)

Here's the pros and cons of each:
1st case:
Pros
-More 5.25 bays
-Rad can be mounted upfront (in the bay area)?
-Fans can be taken out...
-At the top, there are 2x120, where separate 120mm rads could be mounted?
Cons
-How easily removable is the mobo tray?
-ATX layout (I prefer the flipped one)

2st case:
Pros:
-More easily removeable mobo tray
-Flipped ATX
-Room at the bottom
Cons:
-I'd have to redrill the back holes in order to fit my rad

The mobo tray is what concerns me most... I want my PC to be easily serviceable (I'm in there almost every day)...

Which one in your opinion should I go for?

A BIG THANKS TO ANYONE (more so to the ones who lead me to a conclusion with some logical arguments) IN ADVANCE

P.S.: I am not going to take this to lanparties (I hope you realized that, as the cases weigh 50KG and 30KG respectively)

[MaxxxRacer]

redrilling the back of the case for the rad is a small inconvenience i think. so go with the second one.

[D_o_S]

redrilling the back of the case for the rad is a small inconvenience i think. so go with the second one.

Do you think that I could re-drill the holes (is there enough room)? Also, with the second case, all I can fit is the BIX2, with the first case, I can fit the BIX2, plus 2x 1x120 rads at the top...

[Levish]

the 2nd looks better suited if you wanted most of the gear on one side, and doesn't separate out the psu the case while the 1st is better suited if you want to keep hot stuff on the other side.

the 1st is in my opinion the better of the two, it also allows the use of dual psu's.

[D_o_S]

Thanks for the replies so far, anyone else?

[physics_geek]

Definitely the second one. Besides, it have tons of fans.

[YanBooth]

I like the look of the first one personally

then again... i have to reccomend a mountain mods too

did you buy yet?

[D_o_S]

I like the look of the first one personally

then again... i have to reccomend a mountain mods too

did you buy yet?

Neither has persuaded me enough... still debating... thinking about the Silverstone TJ07 now...

[jakedeez]

you need to get a lian li :D

[YanBooth]

you need to get a lian li :D

Mountain Mods FTW!

LOL... sorry DoS, I know this isn't the advice you are really looking for.