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Overclocker16
03-18-2006, 08:31 PM
Ok, I got a few questions. Right now I am thinking about all danger den stuff from their site.
First off, should I go with the TDX block or RDX? I hear both are great.
Right now this is what I am thinking about getting.
RDX CPU Block for A64.
Maze4 GPU block for x1900xt.
8 BGA Ram sinks for the memory chips.
Thermochill PA120.2
Eheim 1250 pump
5.25 reservoir (the one with dual inlets)
Fill port
AS Ceramique.
Also about 10' of 1/2" OD tubing.
All this should run around 350~365 after shipping.
How does this sound? I want it to run nice and cool (also to cut down on unwanted noise).
Biggest question is should I just go with the TDX block instead of RDX?
Systems specs:
DFI Sli Infinity
Opteron 148
1gb mushkin
x1900xt
Dvd burner, hdd etc.
johnanderson
03-18-2006, 08:42 PM
go with the tdx. also, you might want to switch to a d5.
n00b 0f l337
03-18-2006, 08:48 PM
T-line over resevoirl
Hardass
03-18-2006, 08:51 PM
Agree with T line, also 1/2 ID tubing for better flow.
Overclocker16
03-18-2006, 09:08 PM
Ok, if a T-line would be better for flow, then I'll do it, seems like an easier way anyhow, just connect a line from the fillport to the t-line instead of having it fill up a res also.
As far as the tubing, everything I currently have bookmarked says 1/2" OD sizes.
Pump wise, if the D-5 pump (from the replies on DD's site) is that good, for 5 bucks more then the eheim 1250, I'll go for it. Considering it's also small and runs off a molex, it'll keep this area clean to :)
n00b 0f l337
03-18-2006, 09:11 PM
1/2" id if u can fit it.
Overclocker16
03-18-2006, 09:19 PM
What I am saying is that all the stuff, RBX block, Maze4gpu, Res, Fillport, all that stuff says 1/2" OD. But things there say it will fit 1/2" ID.
johnanderson
03-18-2006, 09:23 PM
you should be able to order different barb sizes
Hardass
03-18-2006, 09:25 PM
What I am saying is that all the stuff, RBX block, Maze4gpu, Res, Fillport, all that stuff says 1/2" OD. But things there say it will fit 1/2" ID.
You are correct. The barb will be 1/2OD and tubing 1/2ID. Good luck with your new setup.
Overclocker16
03-18-2006, 09:50 PM
Thanks. Also going with a T-Line instead of a res will save me like 15 bucks, which is always good.
Anything else I should be looking at?
mrapples
03-18-2006, 10:29 PM
well, you can do better than some of those components if thats what you are askingyou would be much better off with a d5 instead of the eheim, and there are much better blocks out there for not too much more
personally, if was going to shell out the cash for a great radiator like a pa, i would make the other components match in quality
Overclocker16
03-18-2006, 10:52 PM
That's what I am wondering. All I looked at was danger den. I know the Swiftec Storm/Apogee is good, but what else should I be looking for? And since saying the D5 is definataly worth it, I'm planning on that.
johnanderson
03-18-2006, 11:01 PM
mp-05 and mcw6002 are probably the only other two blocks worth considering aside from the tdx, storm, and apogee. youre probably better off getting the storm if you have the money for it
Overclocker16
03-18-2006, 11:15 PM
I hear the Apogee works almost as good as the storm and is like 1/2 the price. Although I am going for nice cool temps (to overclock more) I would like to stay under what I have available to spend. And if the difference between the storm and apogee is like 1*C or something, I'm not really worried about it.
mrapples
03-19-2006, 01:29 AM
if you leave the ihs on, then the storm probably isnt worth the extra, but i would buy an mp05 before an apogee
I hear the Apogee works almost as good as the storm and is like 1/2 the price. Although I am going for nice cool temps (to overclock more) I would like to stay under what I have available to spend. And if the difference between the storm and apogee is like 1*C or something, I'm not really worried about it.
Apogee is worse than the mcw6002 so I wouldn't recommend that block. Swiftech's own test's say that it's better than Storm but those test are BS.
andersson.j
03-19-2006, 07:12 AM
GPU block
MCW60 performs better than a maze4 and since they cost about the same I suggest that you buy Swiftechs block instead. And Swiftechs MC14 RAMsinks outperforms all other RAMsinks so get those instead of the OCZ sinks. Also consider the MP-1 (http://www,cooltechnica.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=AQX-MP1-GPU-DT)and Silverprop Cyclon FusionSL (http://www.petrastechshop.com/sicyfugpuwa.html) since they both perform about the same as MCW60.
Pump
50Z (http://www.cooltechnica.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=AQX-50Z-DC12&Category_Code=P) is better than the D5 but not by much and the bigger rad you get the less difference there is. Personally I prefer the DDC-Ultra (http://www.alphacool.de/xt/product_info.php?products_id=3735&) instead.
CPU block
The best combo would be storm + PA but if that's to expensive maybe you should consider a cheaper rad and better cpu block? A storm /w BIP probably performs better then a tdx /w PA.
I don't know where you live but if you live in europe you should get the PA rad from over-clock.co.uk (http://www.over-clock.co.uk/) or ThermoChill.com (http://www.thermochill.com). over-clock.co.uk also sells the DDC-Ultra, D5, Storm, RBX and TDX.
Fans
As always I have to recommend the Yate Loon D12SL-12 fans. :)
Bloody_Sorcerer
03-19-2006, 09:16 AM
GPU Block:
No numbers at all, so pick between MCW60, maze4, and MP-1. MP-1 is the most restrictive, MCW60 is probably the least.
Pump:
50Z is nice, so is D5.
CPU Block:
MP-05 with N03 plate. It's basically the "second best" after the storm, but a good 10 or 20 bucks cheaper. However, if a more expensive block means skimping out on a good rad, then get the good rad and a cheaper block. IMHO, adequate radiatorage makes a much larger difference to performance than the block, assuming the block is one of the better ones, where performance differences become very small. A PA120.2 or 3 or PA160 rad would be ideal, but if not, MCR220QPs or BIP2s are good too.
Overclocker16
03-19-2006, 10:02 AM
I just can't really find anywhere with the storm :\. BTW, I live in the US.
My budget is high enough so I could afford the storm, but I can't find it anywhere.
**EDIT**
Seems a place called overcool.com has one. 78 bucks for it.
**EDIT 2**
Hope them two blocks are that worth it (storm and mcw60) hehe, just ordered with AS Ceramique and overnighted for 149 bucks.
creidiki
03-19-2006, 10:47 AM
could have ordred them from swiftnets.com, manufacturers site :)
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