20K with 3.2ghz

[Creative]

20084 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5846717)

I finally did it!!! Ive put the Aussies on the map...err ORB :D

Specs;
2.4B @ 3240
240mhz @ 2-5-2-2 @ 3.10vdimm
9700 @ 463/378


Im now bidding fairwell to the Intel rig and have today bought myself a new 8RDA+(with A3 NB Stepping) and a 2100+ 0303VPAW so we will see how that goes. Just waiting for the AMD kit for the vapo :)

So proud to be the only Aussie on the ORB over 20K.....so proud :)

[isp]

Nice job ! :toast:

I hope you have good luck with the AMD, and don't crack it! :D

I want to see how it goes for you...

[PiLsY]

Big time congrats m8 - 20k is a real milestone. Remember when I first hit 10k - all of 12 months ago - lol. For some reason the 10k and 20k benchmarks always feel like much more of an achievement :).

Congrats again m8 - and good lick with your AMD :).

PiLsY.

[BTW - you looking to get rid of that 2.4? ;)]

[Creative]

Hey guys thanks heaps :)

isp, for sure, check the amd forum this weekend for my amd posts :)

PiLsY, funny u mention the 10K thing cos i was talking about that today too....17th July I got 10K;

Date: 2002-07-17
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 1470 MHz
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600
OS: Microsoft Windows XP
Res: 1024x768 32bit
:D:D

and now 6-7 months later the score has doubled....just shows how fast technology can move :)

[Alexandrus]

Originally posted by Creative
20084 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5846717)

I finally did it!!! Ive put the Aussies on the map...err ORB :D

Specs;
2.4B @ 3240
240mhz @ 2-5-2-2 @ 3.10vdimm
9700 @ 463/378


Im now bidding fairwell to the Intel rig and have today bought myself a new 8RDA+(with A3 NB Stepping) and a 2100+ 0303VPAW so we will see how that goes. Just waiting for the AMD kit for the vapo :)

So proud to be the only Aussie on the ORB over 20K.....so proud :)

Congratz about the score.

As for switching to the 8RDA+, BIG mistake. All nForce2 boards suck IMO because of the very bad IDE driver.
Unless you only care about 3DMark scores, that's going to make your life harder, the IDE performance that is.
I know I was highly dissapointed with the nForce2.

[OPPAINTER]

Creative,

Cograds on the Score:toast:

AMD will be fun though :) I find them much more fun then Intel, there are so many mods and tweaks and different ways to approach the best Benches with AMD, challaging :)

Have fun,

OPP

[Alexandrus]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
AMD will be fun though :) I find them much more fun then Intel, there are so many mods and tweaks and different ways to approach the best Benches with AMD, challaging :)

For some it's fun, for some is not.
Depends on what you use the PC for. If you actually use it(to work on it, watch movies and play a few games), there's no way to beat an Intel.
If you only use the PC for OC and benches, then AMD is all you said it is, and even more.

[Walrusbonzo]

Alexandrus, what IDE problems are you talking about?

I have none at all.... Did you install the NVidia IDE Drivers?

What I did was to install the NVidia IDE drivers when prompted. Reboot, and then device manager says they are SCSI, this is ok.

Once you have installed the Unified Driver Package Go to Device Manager>IDE/ATA Atapi Controller Under this it should say "Nvidia Nforce MCP2 IDE Controller".

If not right click and update driver. Click Advanced, click don't search, Click have disk, then browse to folder C:\NVIDIA\nForceWinXP\2.0x\IDE\WinXP now choose "Nvidia Nforce MCP2 IDE Controller"

When it's done installing that, reboot and now your IDE drives will show as IDE but you'll be using the proper NVidia IDE drivers. The performance of my 80GB IBM 120GXP is up there with the other 7200rpm UDMA 100 drives in Sandra, so I'm pleased :)

[KnightElite]

Nice score creative, very well done :toast:.

[LORD]

Already congratulated at the other place. Once again good on ya buddy!

:toast:

[FUGGER]

Grats, nice card clocks.

[charlie]

Creative,
Congratulations! Super Score!
great numbers, especially Nature score;)
C

[muzz]

Creative would you do me a favor and run a few hd benches with that intel setup?
Like Sandra, atto,hd tach???........ Whatever you have will be fine, and much appreciated.

muzz

[Alexandrus]

Originally posted by Walrusbonzo
Alexandrus, what IDE problems are you talking about?

I have none at all.... Did you install the NVidia IDE Drivers?

What I did was to install the NVidia IDE drivers when prompted. Reboot, and then device manager says they are SCSI, this is ok.

Once you have installed the Unified Driver Package Go to Device Manager>IDE/ATA Atapi Controller Under this it should say "Nvidia Nforce MCP2 IDE Controller".

If not right click and update driver. Click Advanced, click don't search, Click have disk, then browse to folder C:\NVIDIA\nForceWinXP\2.0x\IDE\WinXP now choose "Nvidia Nforce MCP2 IDE Controller"

When it's done installing that, reboot and now your IDE drives will show as IDE but you'll be using the proper NVidia IDE drivers. The performance of my 80GB IBM 120GXP is up there with the other 7200rpm UDMA 100 drives in Sandra, so I'm pleased :)

Hehe, I may be an idiot but I am not that big of an idiot.
Of course I nstalled the IDE drivers, but have you checked the CPU utilization with the MCP2 driver ?
The other one is even worse, as it identifies the devices as SCSI and burners work like hell.

And one more thing, not everybody uses WinXP, so how about IDE drivers for Win2k and Win98 ?

[muzz]

And if you do do the hd tests on the intel, do me a favor and do them at a pci speed of 33 mhz..... the nforce boards run in spec, hence the hd's are running at that speed.

Thanks

[Alexandrus]

Muzz, if you are interested, I did those test already, and compred to the Intel chipset, the nForce2 IDE has 3-4 time more CPU utilization. The average sustained trnasfer rate is the same though, or very close, anyway.

[muzz]

I'm not going to get into this with you again Alex, maybe their support for Win98 is weak, I don't know because I don't run it.

I just did HD tests in sandra with the cpu USAGE on the dashboard running intervals of 1 second( I did this test 3 times in a row), and the most it hit was 10%. that was for a about 2 seconds( near the end of the test)... the rest of the time it was between 1-6% , with the MAJORITY of the time running under 4%.
When I run Sandra Aritmetic burn in's I tell it to use 50%, and the usage always shows right around 50% , so I know it is not too far off.

That was with XP home without all the extra garbage running(I'm talking Xp's extra bs.. I am running it like I always do- nothing different).

[Alexandrus]

muzz, could you please post some pics of the HDTach test and say with which IDE driver you got that result ?
Who knows, maybe my board is damaged, thus the very high CPU usage results.
I am getting more than 12% with the MCP driver and more than 49% with the MCP2 driver(the one you need to install manually).

As for the Win98SE drivers and stuff, except for the security, Win98 is in many ways better than XP.
And I am very puzzled to why nVIDIA cannot at least port the IDE drivers from XP to Win98 and Win2000. For Win200 all they would need is a changed INF file for crying out loud.

[muzz]

Does HDTach run on XP?
I thought I heard it didn't........ I'll go look around.

[Alexandrus]

I can *EDITED BY N8*.

Alexandrus,
Please keep this discussion off of Xtreme Systems forums. Thanks,
N8. :)

[PiLsY]

Do NOT use the forum for distributing warez or cracked programs.

PiLsY.

[muzz]

I found a shareware benchmark called Passmark, you can use it for 30 days free.........

Go here and run this program and sere what ya come up with( if ya want).

http://www.passmark.com/

[Alexandrus]

Sorry Pilsy, but I did not crack it and I don't make proffit from it, so that's not software piracy.
Plus, I found the program w/o much effort on the net, so it's available to anyone.

But you're right, this is not the place to exchange that kind of software.

[N8]

Yes please take that kind of discussion to email or something of the sort :)

[muzz]

OK I ran that test(twice) and here are the results........ the only units( Baselines) I used to compare were 2 P4's they had listed.
I also showed the device manager with IDE/atapi and disk drives ( I have a Seagate barracuda 4 which isn't the fastest, but very quiet).
Like b4 I set the cpu usage to show every second, and the most it showed this time was 16% , and that wasn't very long....... most times it was <10( and sometiimes under 5).



http://home.attbi.com/~gpl08/Passmark_disk_showing_device_manager.jpg

[Xenogias]

Creative,

you got some Nature madness going on there :/

[muzz]

Creative.....

Sorry for the hijack, I personally thought what I did was relevant to the thread.

20K !!!

Good job man.

muzz

[k1114]

Originally posted by PiLsY
For some reason the 10k and 20k benchmarks always feel like much more of an achievement :).


I am at 9990 with my setup :(

The 10k mark is so close I can taste it! :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:

[Jupiler]

:thumbsup:
Excellent score m8. Glad to see you passed the magic 20k mark.
Have fun with your AMD setup.

[Creative]

Thanks Jupiler, Oppainter and others. It really humbles me to get praise from guys like you :)

Muzz, No problemo I will run some HDTACH, ATTO, and Sandra for you no problemo :) My PCI is always at 33/66 even for benching so thats no problem either :)

Alexandrus, please dont hijack my thread...just a case of RTFM dood ;)

ps
yep the nature score is sorta bugged, apologies for that, but you must do what you have to do to get to your goals.....some agree with it, some dont....as I said, I just do what I have to...:)

20K with AMD and no bugged runs.....Im going to love that :banana:

[Xenogias]

yeah, the whole nature thing is 3dmarks's fault...Most of the time its unavoidable if you're overclockin the raddy. Great score though. I have a similar system and have really been inspired by the fact that you're getting such an awesome score for 3.2ghz. Maybe with a vmod to my radeon and this new xms 3500, I'll be up there...

[Creative]

Xenogias Its all about patience and persistamce.

I tihnk I had about 10 complete runs of 3dmark in the past 2-3 weeks....it gets very very frustrating but you have to keep going and fight thru the frustartions :D

YOU CAN DO IT!!!! :banana:

[Alexandrus]

Originally posted by Creative
Alexandrus, please dont hijack my thread...just a case of RTFM dood ;)


Sorry about that dood.
But think about what I said, the 8RDA+ was a very dissapointing experience for me.

[charlie]

Creative,
It's cool. If I had a 23k bugged run...I'd publish it.
C

[Creative]

Originally posted by Alexandrus
Sorry about that dood.
But think about what I said, the 8RDA+ was a very dissapointing experience for me.
Its all good. :)

muzz, I was able to get some HDTACH and Sciencemark for you and Hexus. Super_Pi wouldnt run the 1M test.

Here we go;

http://users.bigpond.net.au/creat/intel/Hexus-180fsb.JPG

http://users.bigpond.net.au/creat/intel/Sciencemark-180FSB.JPG

http://users.bigpond.net.au/creat/intel/HDTACH-180fsb.JPG

They prob wont be the best numbers cos this was an everday OS install. I quicly ran them before shutting down and bidding the Intel rig goodbye :)

Hope this was what u were after :)

Cheers

[muzz]

Thanks Creative.. tha'll do it.:D

[Alexandrus]

Hmmmmm....low CPU usage for the HDD, you don't see that on nFocrce2 ;)

[vertices]

Hey Creative, first of all, congrats on 20K!!!

Did you mod the mem on that card? I have a BBA Rev 3.0. I managed to get to 429 mhz with just the core mod. I took it up to 1.86 volts but it didn't give me anything over 1.78 volts.

My mem only goes to 345. 350 is a fireworks show. I'm thinking about doing the inner mod as I think I remember seeing that on the new 3.0 cards you cant do the outer mem mod.

I would love to get to 20K, right now I'm only at 18400. Got a long way to go.

[Creative]

muzz no probs...:)

Alex, are you 100% sure you read the readme and that part where it says in big letters....

Windows XP users must install Service Pack 1 prior to attempting to install this package. Failure to do so will result in the inability to support USB 2.0 and NVIDIA IDE drivers
Just wondering ;)

Vertices, cheers man...:) Let us know how the vmem mod goes. Ive only done the VGPU one and as u can see it got me to the ~460 range...Ive looped this card at 475 before so might let her rip again when i setup new rig.....:)

[will_perdikakis]

AMD will be fun though I find them much more fun then Intel, there are so many mods and tweaks and different ways to approach the best Benches with AMD, challaging
Totally, totally agree. Couldn't have said it better myself, except I would have spelled "challaging" correctly. :)

BTW, What is up OPP? ;)

[Alexandrus]

Creative, my WinXP comes win SP1 integrated somewhow, so that's not the problem.

Have you switched to AMD yet ?
How is it ?

[Creative]

Alex :)

Set her up tonight and this was the results after the quik hour or 2 of testing;

Cut n paste from OCAU


Tbred 2100+ 0303 VPAW and she installed windows at 2158 (13*166) @ default volts (1.65) and then Ive now got her at 2275 (13*175) @ 1.70vcore and she primes for 10 tests and then fails.

Im using Win2k also

ps
Just tried 2340 (13x180) @ 1.70vcore and got BSOD half way into windows.....ill up the volts

pps
1.75vcore and im in windows now

Just before si left the house I thought farq it ill try a ripper oc.....so I tried 13*200 and she wouldnt post at 1.75.....tried 1.80 no go.....tried 1.85.....no go.....though bugger this and put to 2.0vcore and guess what.....she booted into windows :D:D

Im pretty happy but I had to shut her down after 1-2 mins so no testing, just jumping round room excited :banana:

Havnt even played with fsb or changed muli yet....ill do this tomorrow when I have more time......this is one air.....imagine in the vapo.....I thnk I have a nice chip to welcome me back to AMD :)

[Alexandrus]

Kwel, 2600MHz is not bad at all.
When you get the chance, do some benches and let us know.
Also, let me know how you think the IDE drivers are, try HDtach and some CD burning ;)

[Creative]

Thats if 2.6 is stable :p But im sure if it lasts 1-2 mins in windows on air then the vapo should be good.....more thourough testing tomorrow :)

No burner but ill for sure run that HDtach again for you....Ive got some 12month old hdtach scores with my old kr7a too fro last summer :)

Bedtime now, 3am....ZzZzZzz :D

[Alexandrus]

Sleepy time now, play time later ;)
OK, good night.

For the HDtach scores, let me know, I have some pictures of my scores on Intel with a Seagate Barracuda ATA V.
I also can test on my rig, but it terrifies me to look at the results :(

[sysfailur]

Just went through this, bravo man! Wonderful job!

I hope to be up in the 20k club soon... 9700 should be coming back mid next week.

[jdmcnudgent]

congrats.:banana:

[Creative]

Hey thanks sysfailur and JD, appreciate it :)

On to the AMD setup now and once the problems are tuned up, then Im hoping to see 20K with AMD also :toast:

ps
Sys, hope u can get some nice speeds out of your new card when it arrives.....JD, nice cpu there bud :)

[sysfailur]

Originally posted by Creative
Hey thanks sysfailur and JD, appreciate it :)

On to the AMD setup now and once the problems are tuned up, then Im hoping to see 20K with AMD also :toast:

ps
Sys, hope u can get some nice speeds out of your new card when it arrives.....JD, nice cpu there bud :)

I am 90% sure that my mobo can do 230mhz fsb 3D as it can do 240mhz sandra.... that + 9700 + some superchilled water and I do believe 20k will be a piece of cake! :P