Swiftech vs DangerDen

[DAK1640]

Who's got the better system between these 2? I only want to WC my 4400+, dual 120mm Rad...All will be external.

DangerDen seems easier to order, but I do want great performance too. I have no need to WC my GPU and I thin 3/8 I.D. is enuf...

Opinions?

[creidiki]

You ask about better performance and then you want to use 3/8? Countersense anyone?

Neway:

Best block: Swifty Storm - swiftnets
Best rad: Thermochill PA - dangerden
Best pump: AquaXtreme 50Z - cooltechnica

[andersson.j]

If the question is which one of them has the best performing cpu block, pump and radiator.

CPU block
Swiftechs storm block is clearly better. But if price is a factor DD will win at some point since tdx doesn't perform that much worse and it's cheaper.
Swiftech vs. DD
1 - 0

Pump
The best pump they sell is the D5 so it's a tie but if money matters DD is slightly cheaper.
Swiftech vs. DD
1.5 - 0.5

Radiator
DD sells ThermoChill rads which is the best you can buy if you're using <100CFM fans but they're expensive, they also sell cheaper BIP and heatercore rads which is allot cheaper but performs a bit worse. Swiftech doesn't even sell 3x120 rads and their 2x120 isn't very cheap and not as good as a ThermoChill rad. So DD wins in performance and price.
Swiftech vs. DD
1.5 - 1.5

Since the stormblock with a swiftech rad and a D5 probably will perform better than a tdx with a ThermoChill rad and a D5 and both cost about the same I'd say that Swiftech performs better. But if a tdx with a BIP or heatercore would be allot cheaper so at some point DD would win.

If you take this contest one step further and include GPU and chipset I'd say that Swiftech wins with their MCW60 GPU block and MC14 RAMsinks compared to DDs maze4. Swiftechs MCX159-CU chipset cooler may very well be the best chipset cooler out there. Using any of DDs chipset WBs is just a waste of flow.

In the end it all comes down to how much you're willing top pay. If you don't pay enough to peltiercool Swiftech wins, unless you don't want a really cheap system then DD wins again.

This "contest" is just for my personal amusement, the sensible thing to do would be to buy things from different manufacturers like crediki suggested. Altough I'd prefer alphacools DDC-Ultra instead of the AQX 50Z and I would consider a Cooltek 3x120 rad(same as swiftech only cheaper, at least in Sweden) instead of a ThermoChill. And I have to suggest that you buy Yate Loon D12SL-12 fans to cool your rad!

[DAK1640]

andersson.j Thank you for being so informative and taking the time to explain things. You are a credit to this Forum!!!:toast:

So if I understand correctly, (and money is secondary)

Pump = D5 or MCP655 fairly even match
CPU Cooler = Storm...What about Apogee?
Rad = Heater Core with shroud (DD seems to have a good one)
Clearflex ? as good as Tygon?

Am I on target?

[Viktor]

The D5 and MCP655 is the same pump, Storm is way better than the apogee and at last Clearflex is as good as Tygon, but much cheaper.

[lv_dicedealer]

Avoid the Apogee.... while it does perform well, the Storm is the best mass-produced wb that you can buy today...

Also, don't go with a heatercore. You can achieve the same performance from a Thermochill rad truly designed for watercooling not originally designed for warming up your footwell in your '77 Boneville.
The Thermochill rad, while not cheap is well worth it in my opinion. I would suggest the PA160 which will cool most any CPU that you throw its way, and it can be very very very quiet with a yate-loon strapped to it. Neat thing about the PA160 is that it comes with a shroud.

Tygon, Clearflex, MasterKleer... all about the same, but I would lean towards 7/16" MasterKleer from www.cooltechnica.com or www.jab-tech.com (I have purchased from both and they both are worthy of getting my money).

jab-tech.com has almost all the goodies that you want, except maybe the PA160. You will have to go to DD for that one...

[creidiki]

The MCP600/50Z would be a better pump for that rig, but were talking about 1c difference... then again most of the differences between equipments are 1-2c, it all adds up.

Heatercore is the cheap route. Unless you like screaming loud fans youll get better temps with a rad designed for pc watercooling with silent (<100CFM fans). PA > MCR > BIP.

The Storm is the best waterblock around... and the apogee the worst block i would even consider. The same base is used in the MC60 which is a great GPU block, but it doesent cut mustard as a CPU block.

I prefer clearflex to tygon.

[DAK1640]

Thank you all...Very informative. Also great point about being quiet, that is VERY important to me. Wow, I have learned so much from your responses, much gratitude. I still need to surf a few terms/equip you suggested.

Thanks Team !!!:toast: :toast:

[creidiki]

Mmmhhh, then deffo a 50Z over the D5/MPC655. ANd get yerself some Yate Loons.

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

yup, id say 50z. and if you dont wanna dish out tons for a waterblock, the tdx with #5 nozzle is close in perfomance.

[creidiki]

Or the MP-05 Pro (non-LE)?

prices are TDX->MP-05->MP-05 LE->Storm, iirc...

[ReD.SkY]

yup you remebered correctly