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Dumo
03-17-2006, 08:18 PM
What the difference between these CF cards? 3DConnect has 2 DVI connectors whreas the others have 1.
Any info about performance?
Thanks.

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/7286/cf0ks.jpg

eva2000
03-17-2006, 11:06 PM
dont think it would affect performance at all ?

chew*
03-17-2006, 11:12 PM
Hmmm good question DUMO. BTW is that going on manta? Come to think of it werent you looking for a good mobo to run crossfire on?

RyderOCZ
03-17-2006, 11:19 PM
The CF edition card is the Master card, there is a special "Dongle" that goes over to the secondary card that goes on that connector.

The second card is just a "regular" XXXXX Radeon Card.

Dumo
03-17-2006, 11:39 PM
@ Ryder....These are the accessories with DVI dongle cable:confused: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814142065

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5774/xx14pc.jpg

@ Chew...Waiting for Yonah's board to run CF with T2600 box and ES:)

RyderOCZ
03-17-2006, 11:44 PM
It says that it is the Crossfire Edition, yes.
So that would mean "master card" but, the picture is wrong.
AFAIK, all master cards look like the other 3 cards on this page, I think the picture for the Connect3D card is wrong, but the description does say it is the CF edition.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048+1067919676&Subcategory=48&description=&srchInDesc=&minPrice=&maxPrice=

EDIT: Yes those are the correct accessories for CF card....cable on the right is the "special dongle" for running CF :)

Dumo
03-17-2006, 11:48 PM
Thanks for info Ryder:toast:
Whew, as long as its mastercard then its ok:)...I think all 1900s are the same ATI's reference card.

chew*
03-18-2006, 12:01 AM
Interested in a 06 record dumo on a64? I think I have the cpu and board to do it if your cards are up to the task :) I don't live that far away, not close but R.I. isn't that far.

Dumo
03-18-2006, 12:15 AM
I would like to try, but all my strong winbonds all gone:(

chew*
03-18-2006, 12:24 AM
I would like to try, but all my strong winbonds all gone:(

How's some 273 2x256 bh-5 sticks or some strong 2x256 2.5-3-3-7 ddr 300 tccd sound :) Hehe I kept mine for a little bit longer. And if we can keep this cpu colder than -50 loaded......3.5+ dual core benchable...........No cold bug to -56 cpu temps so far.

Dumo
03-18-2006, 12:27 AM
Keep it..@ least till AM2 comes out...

On the bright side...I'm ready to torture those 1900s with these pots:) ...

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/7568/picture0204zy.jpg

chew*
03-18-2006, 12:31 AM
Keep it..@ least till AM2 comes out...

On the bright side...I'm ready to torture those 1900s with these pots:) ...

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/7568/picture0204zy.jpg

Hmmm those would fit nice on the manta sitting here right now. And people wonder why it has large spacing between the vidcards...............

Dumo
03-18-2006, 12:36 AM
I'll test it and send it to you for a review:) ...I hope that 3Dconnect CF card will run as quick as Sapphire xtx.

chew*
03-18-2006, 12:40 AM
Probably not which is why I bought just the regular x1900xt. Interestingly you dont need a master card for x1800xt or lower x1xxx series cards on this board.

If i could find another x1800xt that matched mine at 823/981 on water................imagine that on phase or your DI tubes in 01 or the trifecta for that matter.

G H Z
03-18-2006, 01:19 AM
Nice tubes Dumo, who made those beauties? Hopefully your CF card is a screamer to match up with the XTX :)

Dumo
03-18-2006, 07:08 AM
Nice tubes Dumo, who made those beauties? Hopefully your CF card is a screamer to match up with the XTX :)They're Mousepots:)
Anyone try 3Dconnect master?

Dynasty
03-18-2006, 07:24 AM
I'll test it and send it to you for a review:) ...I hope that 3Dconnect CF card will run as quick as Sapphire xtx.

Get an Sapphire X1900 CF card, not the Connect 3D one.
Trust me on this.
Even if you can find BBATI X1900 CF get one,
latest pcb revision -50 should be same as XTX with 1.1ns ram and the
card is suppose to fly compared to first 1900 CF revison -20 with 1.25ns.

;)


Anyone try 3Dconnect master?

Yes, and sent it back within three days with some minor issues.

varzmaster
03-18-2006, 07:32 AM
AFAIK there are 2 versions of the master (CrossFire edition) card. I've had for a couple of days the C3D that looked just like the one in the first pic and the manual illustrated the second verison (which had a CF connector much more DVI-looking than the regular one, showed in the first pic). The manual also mentioned the existence of the two versions. ;)

Dumo
03-18-2006, 07:42 AM
Any difference in performance in between those 2 versions?

@Dynasty...Thats interesting..Thanks for info:) ...I will check my local Compusa for bba card, I'm pretty sure they have in stock.

perkam
03-18-2006, 07:42 AM
Even if you can find BBATI X1900 CF get one BBATI X1900 Crossfire Edition CHEAPER THAN NEWEGG: http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=321347

EDIT: Its the same link I sent you Dumo...though if you find a cheaper one go for it :) As of right now, the above link from ZZF is $50 cheper than the egg.

Perkam

SIOUX
03-18-2006, 07:42 AM
DUMO# Is that a 660w Enermax PSU on the pic??:)

Dumo
03-18-2006, 08:07 AM
@Sioux..Yep, I just got it from rma. This one comes with 2 pci-e connectors.
The old one died by natural cause:) Too much stress from oc and it was fatal when running FX60 and CF:(

SIOUX
03-18-2006, 08:09 AM
@Sioux..Yep, I just got it from rma. This one comes with 2 pci-e connectors.
The old one died by natural cause:) Too much stress from oc and it was fatal when running FX60 and CF:(


oh okay...so you wouldnt recoment it for heavy use??:)

Dumo
03-18-2006, 08:20 AM
I will test it. I hope it will fare better than the old version (2 years old).
Then again this is split rail psu:)

@Perkam...Thanks for the link.

SIOUX
03-18-2006, 08:33 AM
I will test it. I hope it will fare better than the old version (2 years old).
Then again this is split rail psu:)

@Perkam...Thanks for the link.

yes..the splitrails dont seem to good for heavy load. I realy dont know what PSU to get lol:)

Dynasty
03-18-2006, 08:35 AM
Any difference in performance in between those 2 versions?

@Dynasty...Thats interesting..Thanks for info:) ...I will check my local Compusa for bba card, I'm pretty sure they have in stock.


Look for an X1900 CF card with this
revision on top of PCB 109-A52031-50 its same one that
XTX is based on they play nice under SS or controlled ln2.

Right now I am using three 0cz 520w psu (1 520w per card :p: ).

For some rdx200,fx60 & Xfire testing.

Dumo
03-18-2006, 08:41 AM
Look for an X1900 CF card with this
revision on top of PCB 109-A52031-50 its same one that
XTX is based on they play nice under SS or controlled ln2.I will look for this particular card. Thanks Dynasty:toast:

@Sioux...Get Zippy700W or better yet the 850W version:)

SIOUX
03-18-2006, 08:44 AM
I will look for this particular card. Thanks Dynasty:toast:

@Sioux...Get Zippy700W or better yet the 850W version:)


yes..i would love that, but they are nowhere to be found here in denmark:(

Dynasty
03-18-2006, 08:45 AM
I will look for this particular card. Thanks Dynasty:toast:

@Sioux...Get Zippy700W or better yet the 850W version:)


No, problem, happy looking. :toast:

@ Dumo any luck on Aopen for Yonah cpus ?

Rumor has it DFI is planning something for Yonah. ? :)

perkam
03-18-2006, 08:57 AM
yes..the splitrails dont seem to good for heavy load. I realy dont know what PSU to get lol:) The seasonic you have handles CF just as well as the PCP&C 510 SLI.

Am I the only one who thinks this thread is gonna start moving fast? :D

SUBSCRIBED :)

Perkam

Dumo
03-18-2006, 09:00 AM
@ Dumo any luck on Aopen for Yonah cpus ?

Rumor has it DFI is planning something for Yonah. ? :)DFI goes yonah would be interesting:) ECS PE23 hopefully by first week April.....Aopen seems not really enthusiastic that their modt mobo will be used other than 'home digital' purpose...@ least Aopen San Jose.
If you had an access to Ingram Micros probly can check next week.

Dumo
03-18-2006, 09:15 AM
yes..i would love that, but they are nowhere to be found here in denmark:(Heres for Europe...
http://www.zippy.com.tw/P_PRODUCT_SEARCH_KEYWORD.asp?lv_rfnbr=2&pp_code=PSL

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/3827/screenshot0031vb.jpg

irev210
03-18-2006, 09:23 AM
get a zippy! VERY awesome powersupply, especially for the price.

Dumo
03-18-2006, 09:26 AM
@Irev, don't forget to update us when you get your Aopen board:)

SIOUX
03-18-2006, 09:44 AM
The seasonic you have handles CF just as well as the PCP&C 510 SLI.

Am I the only one who thinks this thread is gonna start moving fast? :D

SUBSCRIBED :)

Perkam


The Seasonic would not boot any of my DFI Boards, so i sold it to a user that dont have DFI. Right now i´m using a 680w Thermaltake until i have found a good benching PSU. the TT stays in mky 24/7 gaming rig:) Its an ok PSU.

Thanks Dumo:)

perkam
03-18-2006, 11:18 AM
The Seasonic would not boot any of my DFI Boards, so i sold it to a user that dont have DFI. Right now i´m using a 680w Thermaltake until i have found a good benching PSU. the TT stays in mky 24/7 gaming rig:) Its an ok PSU.

Thanks Dumo:)Must be an incompatibility, that is the first time I'm hearing of this. Maybe the newer revs are better Dunno, but I wouldn't put a Tt psu anywhere near an X1900 :p Unless its one of those new Toughpower ones.

If you want something that isn't too expensive and is tried and tested with huge Amps on the rails, my second choice would be the Enermax 620W Liberty.

Perkam