1900XTX or 7900GTX [Archive] - XtremeSystems Forums

eva2000

03-10-2006, 05:42 AM

X1900XTX... better image quality, HDR + AA, HQ AF, AVIVO and performance that at least matches the 7900GTX.
yup.. from reviews if AA/IQ + high resolution 1600x1200 and higher is what you want = X1900XTX, lower resolutions or benchmarking futuremark apps = 7900GTX

if dual card is what you want seems 7900GTX SLI is better than X1900XT CF

perkam

03-10-2006, 07:32 AM

X1900XTX is a better card. Nvidia themselves admitted that in a meeting to shareholders.

Again :rolleyes: If you have an Nf4 rig now and wish to upgrade down the road, its the 7900GT for an SLI setup, but for a single card setup, there is no subsitute to the X1900XTX....the first and only card to

- Break 55k in 3dmark01
- Break 13k On Air in 05
- Break 14k Single Card in 05
- Break 15k Single Card in 05
- And has the current single card WR in 05 at 16.5k (Kinc)

Perkam

ugp

03-10-2006, 07:35 AM

I am sticking with my x1900XTX...I am very pleased with it and I am using a nF4 Ultra-D board. Down the road I may go CrossFire...but for gaming there is no need for it...

mascaras

03-10-2006, 07:52 AM

for games no doubt X1900XTX its better

ugp

03-10-2006, 07:55 AM

I can run CoD2 full spec at 1280x1024 no problem at all...So I really don't see the need of upgrading anytime soon...

Daveb2012

03-10-2006, 04:06 PM

I have an xtx and was wondering if switching to 7900gt sli would be a bad idea? I think because im still runing a single core CPU, that is one reason to not make the switch, and I think the IQ would be slightly worse but FPS??? I need to see some 7900gt SLI benches.

Budwise

03-10-2006, 04:42 PM

ugp

03-10-2006, 05:00 PM

1900XTX is still a real good choice...

darksythe

03-10-2006, 07:41 PM

k guys thanks for ur replies...
beacuse im running on a NF4 mobo, may consider the 7900GT over the 1900XTX...
what do u guys think? shud i stick to a single or dual card setup?

perkam

03-10-2006, 07:45 PM

I believe XFX has the best deal 7900GT right now.

Though I recommended some to buy the eVGA GT with 500/1500 for $320....Later last night XFX upped the ante on Newegg with a card clocked at 520/1500 (stock is 430/1300 ;) ) for $315 !!!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150139

Perkam

darksythe

03-10-2006, 07:47 PM

well i think i cant buy it from newegg, coz im in malaysia..
they dun ship internationally

perkam

03-10-2006, 07:50 PM

lol :p well....at least you know which brand to buy :)

Plus buying a GT cos you have an nf4 chipset is a perfectly plausible reason...seeing as an ati card with an nf4 board just doesnt sound all that great.

G/L and let us know about performance darksythe :)

Perkam

n00b 0f l337

03-10-2006, 07:55 PM

Rd550 or rd580 + x1900xtx (2 of em, no crossfire card)

darksythe

03-10-2006, 07:56 PM

thanks alot guys.
how i wish they cud ship it to malaysia...
ah well, i hope to see a significant diff with the new cards :)

babyelf

03-10-2006, 07:59 PM

ask some of the members here and see if they'll do it for u ;)

darksythe

03-10-2006, 08:00 PM

hey thre is a great idea.
babyelf in ur view... which is better, a 1900XTX or a 7900GT in SLI?

babyelf

03-10-2006, 08:17 PM

i think one x1900xtx is good enough for ur 2405 ;)

darksythe

03-11-2006, 12:47 AM

jsut a quick question, how far is a pair of 7900GT's ahead of 1900XTX?

krullet

03-11-2006, 03:16 AM

kinc doesent have the WR in single card anymore, overklokk has it now i think

Daveb2012

03-11-2006, 03:31 AM

jsut a quick question, how far is a pair of 7900GT's ahead of 1900XTX?

I think it depends on whos OC'ing and what has been done. a pair of 7900gts has much more potential in 3dmark, they can easily break 15k in 3d05. but an xtx is no much further behind, and still cost less then 2 7900's, about $100.00 less. Plus a lot would agree the IQ is better with the xtx.

DILLY

03-11-2006, 03:43 AM

Oblivion
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/6931/o7bt.png
Buy a X1900 XTX.:slobber:

Devious

03-11-2006, 05:49 AM

wheres that shot from Dilly ?

mursaat

03-15-2006, 03:21 AM

Yes I want to know that too. Oblivion was supposed to release at 20th this month. And 24th in EU. Please show us the link :)

Starscream

03-15-2006, 03:43 AM

Oblivion
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/6931/o7bt.png
Buy a X1900 XTX.:slobber:

ive seen this Score come by a few times now and no one seems to know were it originally came from.

if it is a fake or real no one seems to know.
il just wait that extra week to find out for real.

and i doubt wel have any problems of findingout how wel each grafix card does in Oblivion as i think alot of Review sites will put Oblivion in their benchmark suite once its released.

darksythe

03-15-2006, 04:19 AM

hhmm.. my 1900XTX is suppose to arrive from taiwan in about 2 days time.
still trying to find for a good deal on the GTX or the GT...
i can only find MSI GTX and GTs here. dun really noe how reputable they are

irenic

03-15-2006, 07:20 AM

hehe at last darksythe! u wont be wrong with the x1900xtx .. and u surely gonna beat my record :D

darksythe

03-15-2006, 05:12 PM

where are u getting ur WC kit from?
so rare in malaysia. and how much of coz

krille

03-16-2006, 01:01 AM

Shadowmage

03-16-2006, 02:03 PM

The PERFECT explanation for why X850 ~= 7900 is found!

The SM3.0 path probably is more CPU intensive than the SM2.0 path. Remember X850 doesn't support SM3.0

krille

03-16-2006, 02:34 PM

The PERFECT explanation for why X850 ~= 7900 is found!

The SM3.0 path probably is more CPU intensive than the SM2.0 path. Remember X850 doesn't support SM3.0Dude, was that a joke? Rather being limited to SM2.0 would make the X850 even slower. SM3.0 was not to add much content in Oblivion (other than HDR, which is off here), rather just increase performance (I'm sure I read this in their forums, but they are down at the moment :rolleyes:). Now I don't know about CPU utilization, but I still believe those "scores" to be fake, fake, fake. They may be very, very close, but I seriously doubt the X850XTPE vs 7900GT.

Shadowmage

03-16-2006, 02:38 PM

No, the SM2.0 path definately features shorter shaders, as numberous OFFICIAL interviews have pointed out.

Mesce

03-16-2006, 05:40 PM

X1900xtx does fair better in single card at higher resolutions but nVidia Sli doesn't slouch ;)

benji

03-16-2006, 05:44 PM

X1900xtx does fair better in single card at higher resolutions but nVidia Sli doesn't slouch ;)

you got that frm an nvidia website, and you've got nvidia plastered all over you.
I duno....

ATI's good for me.

Shadowmage

03-16-2006, 08:04 PM

Mesce, even the *BENCHMARK FROM NVIDIA* shows the X1900 winning.

***Deimos***

03-16-2006, 10:24 PM

That score, seriously you think X850XT PE would be 1 single FPS behind next gen refresh 7900GT which is faster than next gen 7800GTX which you gotta admit is a lot faster than X850XT PE. ;)

Btw... I can't really help you out much. (I'm having the same dilemma.) But I try to think like this, if a single X1900XTX isn't enough, one could always get a new mobo in the future for a second X1900XTX or CF.

Doesn't this realize in a substantial performance loss? On the other hand, I'm not too familiar with ATI chipsets... how big is difference for X190XT CF on RD580 vs RD480?

yeah no kidding. that 1fps difference really stands out.

Probably going to be like FEAR. At first leaked beta benchmarks show ATI 100% faster than nVidia. Then when game is released reviews show ATI 30% nVidia. Finally, when ATI fixes some bug, they are even again. Afterall with both ATI/nVidia very close in features, mem bandwidth, pixel fillrate, geometry rate, etc.. and limitations of CPU/RAM/chipset, it would truely be unusual for one to be MUCH faster than the other.

DilTech

03-16-2006, 11:23 PM

yeah no kidding. that 1fps difference really stands out.

Probably going to be like FEAR. At first leaked beta benchmarks show ATI 100% faster than nVidia. Then when game is released reviews show ATI 30% nVidia. Finally, when ATI fixes some bug, they are even again. Afterall with both ATI/nVidia very close in features, mem bandwidth, pixel fillrate, geometry rate, etc.. and limitations of CPU/RAM/chipset, it would truely be unusual for one to be MUCH faster than the other.

And if one is, there will be a driver within 1 month that'll even them back out. Generally that's how it works.

Mesce

03-17-2006, 03:58 AM

you got that frm an nvidia website, and you've got nvidia plastered all over you.
I duno....

ATI's good for me.

Hmm, I dont know what your trying to say.

Mesce, even the *BENCHMARK FROM NVIDIA* shows the X1900 winning.

Shadow, I never said that the x1900 is bad/poor/worse. I posted a Benchmark that shows the x1900 winning single card but only by 2/3 fps at super resolution.

The main thing to note is that SLi is working a fair bit better in oblivion than Crossfire, :toast:

But we will have to see Official benchmarks first ;)

Shadowmage

03-17-2006, 07:39 AM

Hmm, I dont know what your trying to say.

Shadow, I never said that the x1900 is bad/poor/worse. I posted a Benchmark that shows the x1900 winning single card but only by 2/3 fps at super resolution.

The main thing to note is that SLi is working a fair bit better in oblivion than Crossfire, :toast:

But we will have to see Official benchmarks first ;)

That's from an NVIDIA slideshow. Remember how biased those are?

Therefore, one can surmise from this information that this is the WORST X1900 can do against 7900, aka it usually does much, much better.

If the opposite was true, NVIDIA would have posted benchmarks at a different configuration to get one where 7900 beats X1900 in all cases. Obviously this is not possible.

PsyK0t1c dRe4mZ

03-17-2006, 08:12 AM

Probably going to be like FEAR. At first leaked beta benchmarks show ATI 100% faster than nVidia. Then when game is released reviews show ATI 30% nVidia. Finally, when ATI fixes some bug, they are even again.

I think when u step back from the benchmarks and get into actually playing games, it really comes down 2 what games you want 2 play doesn't it? :fight:

I'm trying 2 make the decision right now 2 and I think I'm going with the nVidia cause I have a SLi MB anyway and we all know D3 is nV's baby.

Anyone have any thoughts on which manufacturer produces the 7900gtx that will OC the best under water?

arisythila

03-17-2006, 08:34 AM

I have the 7900GTX. I wanted the 1900XTX because you can raise the voltage VIA Software. the 7900GTX is real nice. I score a 11170 in 3dmark05 with my current computer stats. Its not too bad.

~Mike

Shadowmage

03-17-2006, 10:06 AM

BTW, in order to prevent further thread derails, I'm going to start a topic in News section about Oblivion :)

EDIT: Done http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1339728#post1339728

***Deimos***

03-17-2006, 12:13 PM

That's from an NVIDIA slideshow. Remember how biased those are?

Therefore, one can surmise from this information that this is the WORST X1900 can do against 7900, aka it usually does much, much better.

If the opposite was true, NVIDIA would have posted benchmarks at a different configuration to get one where 7900 beats X1900 in all cases. Obviously this is not possible.

you can add that to your list of:
* X1800/X1900 is new so there just MUST be more room for improvement in drivers
* chronologically X1800 came later than GF7 so it MUST be better
* X1800/X1900 gulp more power and put out more heat hence they MUST be better
* ATI's bigger competitor with hundreds of engineers is utterly incompetent.. thats why initial FEAR beta benchmarks show ATI over 100% ahead of nVidia.
* image quality issues.. that's impossible its ATI.
* red is a faster color than green

eva2000

03-17-2006, 12:26 PM

I think when u step back from the benchmarks and get into actually playing games, it really comes down 2 what games you want 2 play doesn't it? :fight:

I'm trying 2 make the decision right now 2 and I think I'm going with the nVidia cause I have a SLi MB anyway and we all know D3 is nV's baby.

Anyone have any thoughts on which manufacturer produces the 7900gtx that will OC the best under water?

game play huh ? Nice review at VR-Zone.com http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=3335

Check out this page

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=3335&s=20

http://resources.vr-zone.com/Shamino/swf/40.jpg

http://resources.vr-zone.com/Shamino/swf/41.jpg

http://resources.vr-zone.com/Shamino/swf/27.jpg

http://resources.vr-zone.com/Shamino/swf/23.jpg

http://resources.vr-zone.com/Shamino/swf/22.jpg

http://resources.vr-zone.com/Shamino/swf/25.jpg

http://resources.vr-zone.com/Shamino/swf/26.jpg

for gaming single X1900XTX and 7900GTX are about even it seems... oc'd now that's a different story out of the box X1900XT has adjustable voltages via software so for a person who can't volt mod (like me) X1900XTX seems like a better choice

***Deimos***

03-17-2006, 05:20 PM

eva2000,
I agree 900% with you, but try explaining to some folks. After seeing 50 graphs with difference maybe 1-3fps, they find one with big difference and make HUGE issue out of it.

Pronstar

03-17-2006, 05:36 PM

Pretty even i'd say. The fact that the 7900GTX runs cooler, quieter and requires less power appeals to me the most though.

Are there any decent after market air coolers worth getting for the x1900?

CRUSH-ER

03-17-2006, 05:57 PM

Both are great cards. Got me a XFX 7900 GTX today (another for SLI soon). Card is awesome. Quiet, runs cool (about 39C idle) in a warm room, no problems yet (i'e lockups stressed). Haven't overclocked yet.....be doing that later. I'll probably have some screenies soon. :toast:

Devious

03-17-2006, 06:33 PM

In single card format the 7900's do seem very very slightly ahead, but here in the UK they are $140-$200 more to buy. I could buy some nice other hardware with that money or save it for the next gfx card contest. Ive got a X1900XT and coming from a 7800GTX 256MB the picture quality is much better IMO, yes the fan can be loud when you start to overclock it but ive not seen any 3dmark06 scores to rival it without extra cooling so far.

CRUSH-ER

03-17-2006, 07:43 PM

Honest to God - the Ati image quality is overhyped. YES it's excellent, but Nvidia's is not much worse imho. I've tested both. High Quality in Nvidia with some good aa/af really makes up for it. Quake 4 looks beautiful. I've been testing videocards for so long....and I've seen my fair share of them so I know where to spot the differences. The differences are so small nowadays it's retarded to argue over it. Just my opinion.

***Deimos***

03-17-2006, 07:50 PM

For those still LOOKING for benchmarks that show their brand beating the other, and thinking really hard 7900GTX vs X1900XTX, for your consideration:

Spring 2004: 6800U vs X800XTPE
one better in some benchmarks, other better in others
performance now, in comparison to 7900GTX/X1900XTX:
7900GTX-------------------------------------------------
1900XTX-------------------------------------------------
6800ULT------------
X800XTP-------------

get my drift?

PsyK0t1c dRe4mZ

03-18-2006, 10:19 AM

for gaming single X1900XTX and 7900GTX are about even it seems... oc'd now that's a different story out of the box X1900XT has adjustable voltages via software so for a person who can't volt mod (like me) X1900XTX seems like a better choice

Very good point.

If u really want the nVidia OC'd and don't want to mess with the vmods you can always buy 1 that already is...although I've been reading quite a bit in the past couple days about the pre-OC'd cards having issues with artifacting after about an hour of use...

IMO it's always going to be neck and neck with their flagship cards.
:horse:

***Deimos***

03-18-2006, 01:24 PM

Very good point.

If u really want the nVidia OC'd and don't want to mess with the vmods you can always buy 1 that already is...although I've been reading quite a bit in the past couple days about the pre-OC'd cards having issues with artifacting after about an hour of use...

IMO it's always going to be neck and neck with their flagship cards.
:horse:

pre-Oc'd card issues? links? I hope its not the 7900GTs.

Ps: totally agree on the :horse: :hammer: :cheer2:

Titus

03-18-2006, 01:29 PM

the best bet would be to get an X1900XT instead of the XTX...save a few bucks plus the performance difference is minimal at best...and you can easily overclock an XT to XTX speeds...it's a no brainer for me...

in fact 2 weeks ago I purchased an HIS X1900XT card from Monarch Computer for $525-$50 mail in rebate= $475 total...so that was a good deal...I think the rebate is still going on as well so I would jump on it...Monarch is also offering a $60 mail in rebate for all HIS 1900XTX cards

DILLY

03-18-2006, 02:24 PM

Wait for Oblivion.:slobber::cool: The X1900 XTX is the better card for 2006 games.:stick: :slapass: :nono: :rehab:

Great smileys :clap: :fart: :shocked: :welcome: :lsfight:

MikalCarbine

03-18-2006, 02:34 PM

Quick question, I don't want to jack the thread, but would it be wise to wait for G80 to come out or get a X1900XT now

.:\dGh/:.

03-18-2006, 02:39 PM

X1900XTX So far. ... i can't sey more 'couse i don't know how to write it :P

gr8golf

03-18-2006, 02:47 PM

in fact 2 weeks ago I purchased an HIS X1900XT card from Monarch Computer for $525-$50 mail in rebate= $475 total...

Have you verified if the RAM on the HIS cards are 1.1ns? I'm thinking about this exact same card.

Titus

03-18-2006, 03:04 PM

Have you verified if the RAM on the HIS cards are 1.1ns? I'm thinking about this exact same card.

There were no n/s markings on the chips that I could see, just Samsung and then a number..the RAM chips were labled Samsung k4j52320c-bj11 549...Can't seem to find anything out about that number...

PsyK0t1c dRe4mZ

03-18-2006, 03:39 PM

pre-Oc'd card issues? links? I hope its not the 7900GTs

Found that here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150135

Did some more searching and so far it seems to be specificaly the XFX 7900GTX OC especially when playing BF2.

I'll post if I find anything more concrete :fact:

PsyK0t1c dRe4mZ

03-18-2006, 05:47 PM

There were no n/s markings on the chips that I could see, just Samsung and then a number..the RAM chips were labled Samsung k4j52320c-bj11 549...Can't seem to find anything out about that number...

The 'BJ11' is 1.1ns :fact:

I just started a new thread that should take care of any questions you have on unraveling the coding on the Samsung chips: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=93145

:D

Titus

03-18-2006, 06:05 PM

The 'BJ11' is 1.1ns :fact:

I just started a new thread that should take care of any questions you have on unraveling the coding on the Samsung chips: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=93145

:D

nice job...thanks for the info...I guess I do indeed have the 1.1ns RAM, which is supposedly the best one :banana:

darksythe

03-19-2006, 06:10 AM

hhmmm i havent started to play much with the mem yet.
do u guys think its possible to hit 850 on the rams, without touching the Vcore or all the other things?

Foca

03-19-2006, 11:22 PM

i was going to make a new thread, but i think im gonna "hijack" this one instead :cool:

im really going mad at deciding which one is better... the same old fight, ATI vs Nvidia, it never end :P
anyway, i just cant decide between the 7900gt, x1900xt... im considering one of these 2 cards (single card config)

most of the 7900gts on newegg are at around $300~320, but they come with 256mb only... maybe it'll make some difference in future games...

the x1900xts have 512mb of ram, and seem to be faster than the 7800gtx, maybe even close to the 7900gtx speed... BUT, the problem is, they cost 449 (sapphire)... and man, thats really a BIG price difference between those cards...

so, what u guys think?? is it really worth to spend $100+ on the x1900xt? (comparing it to the 7900gt which is alot cheaper and i have a very limited amount of $ to spend on a big upgrade im doing, psu+cpu+mobo+ram+vga all at once, so these $100 can make a lot of difference)

thx :D

DILLY

03-21-2006, 09:46 AM

Ok, we got the game and we have 2 boxes here, almost identical except one has the 7900gtx512Superclock and the other has the x1900xtx.

Both systems have new clean winxp pro sp2 installs.

System 1
AMD Athlon 64 4000+ Sand Diego (2.4ghz)
ASUS A8N-SLi Premium
2GB Corsair XMS Twinx2048-PC-32000c2 (2-3-3-6 1T)
ATI Radeon X1900XTX (650/775(1550)) - Cat 6.3
Enermax Noisetaker EG701AX-VE SFMA(24P) 600W
Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L300S0 300GB 7200rpm SATA150
Audigy 2 ZS - latest drivers and latest OpenAL driver

System2
AMD Athlon 64 4000+ Sand Diego (2.4ghz)
ASUS A8N32-SLi Deluxe
2GB Corsair XMS Twinx2048-PC-32000c2 (2-3-3-6 1T)
EVGA 7900GTX512SC (84.20)
Seasonic s12-600W
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB SATA3.0GB
Audigy 2 - latest drivers and latest OpenAL driver

Game Settings
Ultra High Settings on both computers
AA off
HDR on
1600x1200

ATI:
Cat forced 8xHQ AF
CatAI-Standard
Mip High Quality
Vsync On

Nvidia:
HQ mode, all opts. OFF
App select AF
Trilinear forced
ClampOn
Vsync On

First off Self Shadows looks clunky on both and defaults to off in UHQ game mode.

The game runs faster on the ATI box. By maybe 10-15fps on average depending on the scene. Plus the ATI can use 8xHQAF while the 7900 can't use any forced AF.

It looks good overall on both and is definitely playable on both like this. Inside I get fps of up to 70-80, outdoors it goes at time in to the 20's at worst case.

The 7900 has a harder time keeping the fps up above 30 outside at times.

I have no loyalties, I'm just calling it like I see it. I'm interested on the how the Wed. Nvidia drivers help the 7900.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1033747

:slapass:

krille

03-21-2006, 11:13 AM

Hey DILLY, you should clarify that you mean The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
when you say "the game". I know this for a fact though, since this is an
exact copy of AstroCat's (=you?) post here (http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=272791) in
The Elder Scrolls Forums > Oblivion > Hardware and Software Issues. ;)
But for others, they may not know.

~ Kris

Breeze

03-21-2006, 11:23 AM

Quick question, I don't want to jack the thread, but would it be wise to wait for G80 to come out or get a X1900XT now
arnt the next gens cards supposed to come out at the end of the year? if so a long wait.

krille

03-21-2006, 11:29 AM

arnt the next gens cards supposed to come out at the end of the year? if so a long wait.Others say June or even April - May. Personally I think June 31st (H1-06 that is) sounds about right. :)
Note: I mean for announcement.

Breeze

03-21-2006, 06:18 PM

Others say June or even April - May. Personally I think June 31st (H1-06 that is) sounds about right. :)
Note: I mean for announcement.
Would be nice to know as im hoping to build a machine soon.

MikalCarbine

03-21-2006, 06:38 PM

My situation is that I am heading off for college this fall, so I wan't my rig to be all set and ready to rock, because I know I will be broke after I'm there ;)

So if G80 doesn't come out this summer I am going to get a 1900XT or XTX if prices drop by then

***Deimos***

03-21-2006, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by MikalCarbine
Quick question, I don't want to jack the thread, but would it be wise to wait for G80 to come out or get a X1900XT now
I'll give you some hints. PS3 delayed till 2007. Vista delayed till 2007. Some games also delayed till 2007.

If you need/want to play games now, then buy the proper hardware and dont stress out for many months waiting. Worst case, you buy a $300 7900GT or something like that, and 8-12 months down the road sell it for $250.

7900GT and 7600GT have JUST been announced. Trust me, there wont be anything for a good long while since they first have to sell these!

EDIT: also, useless to wait for prices to fall. What, do you think that 7900GT will suddenly compete in price with X1600, or even X300's? Since 7800GTX launched half-year ago, price stayed about the same. By the time they have price drops on X1900's there will already be next-gen cards out that you will want to buy instead.... its a long wait you know./

MikalCarbine

03-21-2006, 06:40 PM

I'll give you some hints. PS3 delayed till 2007. Vista delayed till 2007. Some games also delayed till 2007.

If you need/want to play games now, then buy the proper hardware and dont stress out for many months waiting. Worst case, you buy a $300 7900GT or something like that, and 8-12 months down the road sell it for $250.

7900GT and 7600GT have JUST been announced. Trust me, there wont be anything for a good long while since they first have to sell these!

If that is the case, I might as well start saving up for an XT or XTX :P

Breeze

03-22-2006, 09:57 AM

If that is the case, I might as well start saving up for an XT or XTX :P
Think i'll do the same.

darksythe

03-23-2006, 02:00 AM

hhmm i already got my 1900XTX at quite a steal.
i dun regret coz im still getting scores which are higher than the 7900GTX :D
thanks alot guys for being so responsive

MikalCarbine

03-29-2006, 11:24 AM

Elfear

03-29-2006, 11:40 AM

Question as I am beginning to save up for my X1900XTX, I know these things are power beasts and run hot (won't be a problem for my water cooling), how much more power do they actually use over the 7900's? Would anyone think I'd need to upgrade my OCZ 520w Powerstream to something else while using a X1900XTX oc'ed and a X2 3800+ @~3GHz?

Nope. My 520W OCZ runs the components in my sig just fine. Unless you're running 8 scsi drives or something, I wouldn't worry about it.

MikalCarbine

03-29-2006, 01:18 PM

Sounds good :P

Anyone know which card performs better in Oblivion and other games @ 1280x1024?

Is the x1900xtx still the better buy if I will be gaming at 1280x1024? My CRT and the LCD I will be buying doesn't support 1600x1200 :S

Either way I think the x1900xtx will be the better buy and can be had for cheaper too :P

kakaroto

04-01-2006, 01:39 PM

***Deimos***

04-01-2006, 05:44 PM

Damn, I am also cannot decide what GFX i buy.

ATI X1900XT (480EURO)

or

7900GTX 512 (500EURO)

or

2x 7900GT SLI (650EURO)

3Dmark scores is not a priority, GAMEPLAY GAMEPLAY :)
If I want 3dmarks I would have bought the 2x 7900GT, but a single card with 512 instead of 256 makes a huge difference in some FPS tests.

Also the games in 2006 must be playable on my system.

To be able to play all the games from 2006 you need a 6600GT. Yup, its perfect.

However, for higher resolutions and AA/AF its a totally different story ;) Perhaps you might be specific which games, and look for benchmarks, because just like CPU, there is no perfect video card best at everything, ideal in every way. There are few cases where 256MB is really better than 128MB, so likewise, I doubt 512MB will do much. If you have the money, it certainly cant hurt to have more MBs ;)

MikalCarbine,
If you are interested in Oblivion gameplay (it's a long game, 100's of hours'), WAIT for benchmarks of the game to appear before rushing to buying and then going through trouble of returning.

MikalCarbine

04-01-2006, 06:16 PM

I am somewhat satisfied with my 7800GT and oblivion for now, and it'll get better once I get my WC. Has anyone read up ont he R580+? ATI is going to make a 80nm version of the x1900's, they will run cooler and be cheaper too ;)

I might wait for this

kakaroto

04-02-2006, 04:06 AM

To be able to play all the games from 2006 you need a 6600GT. Yup, its perfect.

However, for higher resolutions and AA/AF its a totally different story ;) Perhaps you might be specific which games, and look for benchmarks, because just like CPU, there is no perfect video card best at everything, ideal in every way. There are few cases where 256MB is really better than 128MB, so likewise, I doubt 512MB will do much. If you have the money, it certainly cant hurt to have more MBs ;)

MikalCarbine,
If you are interested in Oblivion gameplay (it's a long game, 100's of hours'), WAIT for benchmarks of the game to appear before rushing to buying and then going through trouble of returning.

You mean 7900GT SLI or 7900GTX??? :)

I use a 1280x1024 LCD monitor, so higher resolution is not an issue here.
I see some benchmarks that one 7900GTX 512MB performs the same as a 7900GT in SLI. (Battlefield 2 1280x1024 4xAA, anandtech review), but in other benchmarks the 7900GT SLI have a 20-30fps more then one 7900GTX/1900XTX.

I will buy the 2x 7900GT, because there are also very good overclockable, too bad i don't have the money for 2x 7900GTX or 2x X1900XTX.

Danger30Q

04-02-2006, 02:54 PM

Question as I am beginning to save up for my X1900XTX, I know these things are power beasts and run hot (won't be a problem for my water cooling), how much more power do they actually use over the 7900's? Would anyone think I'd need to upgrade my OCZ 520w Powerstream to something else while using a X1900XTX oc'ed and a X2 3800+ @~3GHz?

As long as you only use 1 X1900 XTX card you should be just fine with the 520W Powerstream. Only when you get into Crossfire you need the 550+W PSU.