X800 Xt

[gatt767]

I have been offered this card at a very reasonable price, how does this card compare with the current generation of Video cards is it of any good in playing current games with high res enabled and maxed out.

Thanks

[wowza]

It's a very nice card, it aint no 7800GTX but it will play all the latest games, BF2, CSS ect. with some eye candy.

[eddieate]

although not a huge upgrade from your x800pro.
/Ed

[Jarrod1937]

i have an x800 xl and it can play F.E.A.R. at max settings (for both computer and graphics) with 6x fsaa, 16af, and 3x temporal anti-aliasing (set at 2 fps threshold) at 1024x 768 and the game runs at about 20-30 fps average. so i would say the x800 is a good card.

[Jarrod1937]

although not a huge upgrade from your x800pro.
/Ed
he has an x800 pro....? well i guess he does!
in that case try to unlock the other pipes on your current card and it may perform as good as an x800 xl with no cost! be aware though, not all can be unlocked successfully.

[gatt767]

it has to be hard modded, and I don't want to try it on a card that costed me 240 Sterling. I will try to sell mine as it is still under warranty and replace it with the X800XT

[Jarrod1937]

it has to be hard modded, and I don't want to try it on a card that costed me 240 Sterling. I will try to sell mine as it is still under warranty and replace it with the X800XT
i believe you can unlock the pipes by a softmod.

[[XC] Lead Head]

only x800 pro VIVOs can be softmoded. regular x800 pros have to me hardmoded as well as softmoded. Anyways an unlocked x800 pro will out perform an x800 XL at stock x800 pro speeds

[Jarrod1937]

only x800 pro VIVOs can be softmoded. regular x800 pros have to me hardmoded as well as softmoded. Anyways an unlocked x800 pro will out perform an x800 XL at stock x800 pro speeds
no, you can still softmod non-vivo x800 pro's, the problem is that you have a lot lower success rate with others. many because most don't have the extra pipes actually connected, however some earlier versions of the x800 pro (non-vivo) did have them connected and could simply be softmoded, i did say <b>some</b>. so don't get confused and think i said all.
either way it isn't too hard to hard mod it, its as simple as connecting two contact points and flashing the bios with an x800 xt bios (if the card can run the xt speeds, but its not needed).

[Jokester_wild]

no, you can still softmod non-vivo x800 pro's, the problem is that you have a lot lower success rate with others. many because most don't have the extra pipes actually connected, however some earlier versions of the x800 pro (non-vivo) did have them connected and could simply be softmoded, i did say <b>some</b>. so don't get confused and think i said all.
either way it isn't too hard to hard mod it, its as simple as connecting two contact points and flashing the bios with an x800 xt bios (if the card can run the xt speeds, but its not needed).


Not all work even by connecting the pins and flashing, only some worked and ive seen some that had them connected when flashed ended up not working well. Graphics started flickering in games graphical errors not sure why but must be due to the unlocking of pipes i doubt it would be due to core/mem speed bump.

[Jarrod1937]

well yes, i thought it would be assumed that there wouldn't be a 100% success rate. its sort of luck of the draw really. but those who get away with it get more performance for less $.
however my point was that it isn't that big of a deal to hard mod it. if it starts artifacts (more than likely due to the pipes) then just simply remove the connecting points and restore the old bios.

[gatt767]

I will try and sell the X800Pro, I will surely find some one who will buy it. Its not a bad card and I can play most of the current games at high res with most of the gizmo maxed up, except FEAR. I have downloaded the demo and its not smooth at all. The res is set to 1024 * 768. I hope that I will see some performance increase with this card.

[gatt767]

People i have received my second hand card from ebay an X800 XT card, and on installing I have found it has an XT PE bios, but at the back the label is of an X800 XT. I think that this card has been flashed by its previous owner. I have run 3DMArk 05 and 03 for several times plus tested for artifacts with ati tool but none has been reported. the Core is set to 520 and the mem to 560. Also the catalyst overdrive option is also overclocking the card further cause i have also enabled this feature. Do X800 XT cards able to handle X800 XT PE speeds or should i re flash it with the default bios that an XT card with?

Will this reduce the lifetime of an XT card? or are these cards able to handle the extra overclock? Apart from that I have seen an increase in speed over my X800 Pro

[Jokester_wild]

It should be fine what are the temps running at those speeds ?

I ran my old X800xt at 570/540 and it was fine but i have better cooling for going that high.

[gatt767]

ATI tool is reporting 70 degrees celcuis for the core while tests are being run, thats the max it went up

[gatt767]

Increased the internla fan speeds of the case and the core dropped to 68 degrees celuis. Obviously more noise

[[XC] Lead Head]

68-70*C is pushing it a little bit. Still ok though *i think*

[gatt767]

what are the normal temps when the card is being pushed? I don't remember my X800 Pro temps! What are your temps Lead head when running the card with ati tool?

[[XC] Lead Head]

I have unlocked the 16 pipes, so at x800 XT PE speeds it tops out at 64*C with the case door on. At 16 pipes at x800 PRO speeds, it tops out at aount 59-60*C

and when i had 12 pipes, it topes out at 54-55*C

EDIT: after looking at the fins trough the fan, it apears that the fins that lead right over the core have become clogged with dust, again. When the fins are clean its about 56*C @ 16 pipes @ x800 XT PE speeds

[gatt767]

Will move then for the arctic cooler and replace the heatsink

[gatt767]

had to Flash it with an X800 XT bios as after leaving the PC for about an 3 hours (Idle) I re run 3dmark 06. On the third screen artifacts started to crop au from everywhere! Rebooted the PC and re run atitool. It started to detect artifacts as well!

So my only option, before re sending was to re falsh with an XT bios and till now no problems have been detected by atitool.

When the card was still with the XTPE bios, it felt as if it was going to melt down! Hope that no damage has been done to any component!

[gatt767]

I was going to order an Arctic Cooler VGA silencer Rev 2. Do you think that it will make any difference to cool down this heater? From the reviews that i have read it seems that it makes miracles plus its quite silent.

[gatt767]

The arctic cooler haven't arrived yet but will surely be at hand this week. Currenlty i am doing tests with ATi tool for the card stability. The mem passed the 550 barrier with out artifacting. At that point i stopped the test cause i knew that these mem were rated for 560 Mhz.

Now i am finding my self were the card is not stable at all. At 500 Mhz core and 500 Mhz mem its all fine and dandy. But for example i have clocked the RAM to 550 Mhz as found stable by ATI tool. Went to play Far cry and while playing all was ok. On exiting to windows the screen started to artifact and had to reboot the machine.

How come the ram are rated to go up that speed and its not consistant? Sometimes it works perfectly and at other times its start artifacting? for example when i received the card it was flashed with a PE bios! for the first 4 hrs it worked flawlessly, then oops bump artifacts everywhere! could it be heat build ups? faulty mem?

[gatt767]

come on people some help please

[CompGeek]

Dude, its not worth it.

[gatt767]

Thanks very helpfull, may be i cannot afford to buy 2 7800 GT or scrap my hardware which i am satisified with and is covering all my needs with a new PCI Express system!

[gatt767]

Installed Arctic Cooler silencer rev 2 and its amazing, the temps never skip 54 degrees celcuis, apart that it is very silent. I have reached a core level of 540 Mhz and its stable. I haven't tried out the ram yet buy i cannot understand how ATI does not install its cards with these coolers. What a difference!