My New x1900xtx

[s7e9h3n]

Got this in the mail from NJKid32 a couple of days ago and have been prepping it for some freezing :p: Took me a good few hours to make a new heatsink for the voltage regulator chips as I was reading that the area gets super hot. I should be up and running on my -70C 1hp Rotary Baker GPU cooler tonight with this card. I'll update this thread when I do. Just thought you guys may be interested in seeing my little "mod" to the stock heatsink on the VR's. It's made from a butchered LGA775 1u heatsink :D :

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7246/whole24mp.jpg

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9451/rear2ms.jpg

EDIT: Forgot to include the "Butt Shot":

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/1704/butt8yu.jpg

[Dynasty]

I see you doing 900/900 on that card. :toast:

[Marioace]

nice job on that heatspreaders

[HousERaT]

wow.... what a beast..... good luck with it. Hope to see some monster scores.

[Wa77x]

That card looks shwwweeet. :D I really like the copper heatsinks you got on it. You should get some very nice benches with it, good luck !!!!!

[s7e9h3n]

That card looks shwwweeet. :D I really like the copper heatsinks you got on it. You should get some very nice benches with it, good luck !!!!!
Welcome to XS Wa77x!!

Thanks guys! I'm shooting for 900/900 with this puppy.....

[njkid32]

Why is the core covered is it an ES or something:) J/K Now just get it mounted and get running 3D... GL man and dont fall asleep while benching..

[KGB]

Goodluck,enjoy watching your achievments,always keep a look out for you posts.. :)

[alexio]

Why is the core covered is it an ES or something:) J/K Now just get it mounted and get running 3D... GL man and dont fall asleep while benching..

Warranty? :p:

Good luck with benching. I don't think anything on that card will ever overheat :)

[gocchin]

Nice work s7e9h3n..... look forward to some monster scores. What are you going run first some 3D2001? :)

[SIOUX]

Very nice Steve:toast: Now crank that bad boy up:D

[s7e9h3n]

Goodluck,enjoy watching your achievments,always keep a look out for you posts.. :)
Hey thanks man - I take that as quite a compliment :toast:

@ Alexio: Nah...just covered the core so I didn't get any conformal coating on it when "painting the PCB" to protect from moisture. This is what the board looks like under a blacklight. The coating only appears under UV light ;) :

Top:

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2276/blacktop0rs.jpg

Bottom:

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3686/blackbot5hb.jpg

@ Gocchin: Thanks! 01? I dunno...my x850xtpe score would rank #6 on the x1900xtx leader board :p: so I don't know how much of an improvement this will be...(OK, I DO have an idea of how much higher it would be ;) , but I'm leaning toward maybe 03 first)

@ Sioux: Will do...be expecting some PM's asking for advice again:p:

[G H Z]

900/900 with you 154 is over 50K if you know what you doing ;) :D

Go get it!!!

[Celcius]

Nice card s7e9h3n, and good luck.

[hipro5]

NICE job......Remember to coat the tiny smd caps inside and around the core.....;)

[Hicks]

Very nice man. Make my cooler look a bit pathetic, lol: http://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict02703am.jpg

Stock cooler seemed to do better.:confused:

[cantankerous]

Nice job on better cooling the voltage regulators. Wondering if there is anythign third party that can be purchased to better cool those over the stock one that comes with the card? I wouldn't mind mounting something better in that area of my card too.

[cyron1]

such a nice looking card :)

[Cpt Twitchy]

Man s7e9h3n we need to get you some dual core loving. I think one of the CCBHE FX60's would suit your auto-c well.

Tim

P.S. YGPM

[dinos22]

good luck s7

getting into some serious 3D benching .....nice

yeah as cpt said would also be nice if you popped in a nice DC if you have one lying around i guess

what are your highest benchable 8M SPI clocks on that Opti154.......that should be sufficient for '03

[5150 Joker]

Nice job with the sinks man, I like them!

[s7e9h3n]

900/900 with you 154 is over 50K if you know what you doing ;) :D

Go get it!!!
Wanna share any tips ;) ? Looks like your score is the one I'm gunning for :toast:

@ Hipro: I never though about doing that - I really should, and will...thanks for the suggestion

@ Hicks: That's ViperJohn's work. It may not look as flashy as mine, but I'm sure it's quite effective as all his stuff seems to be

@ CptTwitchy: Got that covered already (Not the FX60 - which btw, I've already put in the request for) ;) But first have to square away a few things.....

@ Dinos: (on my ultra-d, I may try with my Expert as well) I really think there's more left in the cpu as well......

http://www.cryo-laboratory.com/upload/userfiles/s7e9h3n/Opty%20154/14x2708m.jpg

@ Everyone else: Thanks for the compliments. I really tried to make it so this card at least LOOKS fast (even if it won't end up going fast :D )

[[cTx]Philosophy]

loking forward to seeing some ownage taking place shortly, Good luck stephen, As others have stated and u already cleared up, Go dual core and rape the orb

[perkam]

It'd be nice to know properties of this opty 154, s7....OPP has an interest in one too. Whats so special about the chip?

Perkam

[dinos22]

It'd be nice to know properties of this opty 154, s7....OPP has an interest in one too. Whats so special about the chip?

Perkam
non-fx that benchmarks at 3.8GHz.....i donno seems pretty special to me heheheheheh

[metro.cl]

good luck steven, nice work on the card.

[Onepagebook]

this guy is completely "have too much time doing what he like to":D
that's why he got extra fsb showing on his bh-5 utt,
nice job bro!!

[s7e9h3n]

It'd be nice to know properties of this opty 154, s7....OPP has an interest in one too. Whats so special about the chip?

Perkam
Have you ever seen a cpu besides an FX57 do this? (And no - Intel's don't count :p: )

http://www.cryo-laboratory.com/upload/userfiles/s7e9h3n/Opty%20154/4g.jpg

OPP's 154 benches right around the same speed as I ran my first few 3dMarks at. The difference is that OPP needs ~1.80Vcore while I use 1.66Vcore :cool:

[JasonDTM]

^^^ Nice work on the X1900XTX steve :)

Looking forward for results on your baker gpu unit... Maybe 50k? :p

[s7e9h3n]

^^^ Nice work on the X1900XTX steve :)

Looking forward for results on your baker gpu unit... Maybe 50k? :p
oh $hit - I forgot to do your run....I'll try to get that done when/if I put my x850xtpe on air. Got an FX55 in my daily rig ;)

[[cTx]Philosophy]

dam 4 gigs on 1.66 is insane i need that much to get my X2 2 2750 :(
3D 3D 3D 3D sp-i

[Cpt Twitchy]

Well in taht case I cannot wait to see what kind of dual core action you got up your sleeve. Time willsoon tell though.

[Toki]

Nice work on the card s7e9h3n, always great thread :)

Good luck with 3D benching.

[yotomeczek]

the memory heatsinks are beautiful - who did it and where can I bay them ??
Waiting for some great score i 3D :D

[gundamit]

I bleieve they're the Swiftech MC14. Not sure what the distribution on Swiftech products are like in Europe. Here in the U.S. they run between $15-20USD.

http://www.swiftnets.com/assets/images/products/MC14setx400.gif

[perkam]

Have you ever seen a cpu besides an FX57 do this? (And no - Intel's don't count :p: )

http://www.cryo-laboratory.com/upload/userfiles/s7e9h3n/Opty%20154/4g.jpg

OPP's 154 benches right around the same speed as I ran my first few 3dMarks at. The difference is that OPP needs ~1.80Vcore while I use 1.66Vcore :cool: Wow....thats truly awesome :up: ... so going for hipro's WRs then? :D

Perkam

[s7e9h3n]

Wow....thats truly awesome :up: ... so going for hipro's WRs then? :D

Perkam
No way my cpu running @ 3.8 will even touch his Dothan @ 4.1+. The only way would be to run 3.9+ and 1k/1k on the card :wth:

[althes]

next to impossible

[s7e9h3n]

next to impossible
I know, but it never hurts to dream :p:

[SIOUX]

:[/QUOTE]
Sioux: Will do...be expecting some PM's asking for advice again:p:[/QUOTE]




You can PM me as much as you want, you know that:D :toast:

[s7e9h3n]

You can PM me as much as you want, you know that:D :toast:
Thank you my friend and just in case I hadn't metioned it before - thank you and everyone else for all their help in my x850xtpe endavour. Basically, everyone's help took a 3dMark noob (me) to a 46,855 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8899625) point score in 3d 01. :toast:

A little update on this card. I was just about ready to get up and rolling with the x1900xtx last night. Basically all I had to finish was to tap out the screw holes for the mounting plate on my evaporator. Had all the holes drilled out and while tapping the last hole, the bit broke off inside of the hole. I broke 5 drill bits trying to get it out and ultimately had to use a Dremel to "excavate" it. Kinda makes things difficult, but I'll figure it out....."Only" took 3 hours to get that friggin broken bit out last night :rolleyes:

Let the PM's begin :fact:

[ahmad]

Boo.. we wants numbers :p:

Awesome fancy work on the heatsinks though. Perhaps you should make some available for sale.

[rob[GL]]

Gogogo

[s7e9h3n]

Boo.. we wants numbers :p:

Awesome fancy work on the heatsinks though. Perhaps you should make some available for sale.
LOL...if I were to charge for them, nobody would be able to afford it since I had to put a few hours of work into just one :p: Numbers coming soon - I think I've got the mount squared away...now all I really need to do is to change out my chipset cooler since the card won't fit with it in :rolleyes:

[s7e9h3n]

Spent some time today making a new chipset cooler as my old swiftech chipset cooler won't fit with the x1900xtx inserted. Here's what I came up with. Originally it was a AeroCool fanless VGA heatpipe cooler. I did some creative bending, cut the heatpipes, braised the ends, modded the base and hold-down to fit the chipset. Hopefully this works well otherwise I'm gonna be pissed that I wasted so much time doing this:

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8982/chipside6na.jpg

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/5262/capclear9jy.jpg

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/9945/back9da.jpg

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/2182/clearance6ck.jpg[/QUOTE]

[Mowgli]

nice looking cooler u have there...lol....u really hav lots of time to do these stuffs huh? but its worth the effort...respect u for that!

[s7e9h3n]

nice looking cooler u have there...lol....u really hav lots of time to do these stuffs huh? but its worth the effort...respect u for that!
It's not about having time, it's about MAKING time :D

@ Willis: ....or a mini evaporator :woot:

[s7e9h3n]

mousepot with ln2 24/7 :banana:


:D
LOL :toast:

[cantankerous]

damn man, your coming up with some great work there s7e9h3n. Good job, keep it up!

[G H Z]

Looks good :cool:

Is there room for the card evap with that? I didn't know you could cut heatpipes open and have them work the same but maybe I'm wrong ;)

[v0dka]

Looking forward to some scores.

Nice modding btw!

[yngndrw]

I didn't know you could cut heatpipes open and have them work the same but maybe I'm wrong ;)
I'm pretty sure that they need a vacuum to lower the boiling point of the water inside .. :stick:

s7e9h3n: Best of luck mate, you should get some awesome scores with that setup. :toast:

[chunkylover77]

Looking forward to the benches Steven.

[ex2cib]

how are the temps on the chipset after the mod stephen?

[Circaflex]

great looking work s7e9h3n

[Rodzilla]

s7e9h3n... Looking Very nice!

I already have an x1900xtx here... another on the way... an FX-60... and waiting on the ASUS RD580 mobo ;)

I'm not xtreme enough for the uber cooling :lol: But I'll be putting the Danger Den ATI-X19 full coverage water blocks on them (Should be for sale on Monday, 2-27-06)

See if I can give you a run for your money! :hehe: :p: (Note I had to spend UBER bucks just keep up :lol: )

At any rate... very impressive! I like the black light trick! :up:

[perkam]

(I was a mod before 500 ) How did I do it? Wasn't xtreme overclocking... I haven't had any hardware that wasn't second hand... I just took an interest in the forums and helped where I could... It's all about attitude man.Hey !! Stop embarassing us mods that took 3000 posts to become mod :p:

Looking forward to some benches (or some more pics :D )...take your time though...Eric is watching closely for the results ;) :D

Perkam

[s7e9h3n]

BTW - to everyone else who's interested in my little project - I've basically got everything ready to go. Got to make a backplate and install the cpu and I'll be up and running in a bit....Thanks for the support guys :toast:

[Dynasty]

BTW - to everyone else who's interested in my little project - I've basically got everything ready to go. Got to make a backplate and install the cpu and I'll be up and running in a bit....Thanks for the support guys :toast:

nice s7e9h3n can't wait too see some 154/1900 XTX action. :toast:

You going to do 3D 05 and maybe go for an single card WR in 05 ? :)

[loc.o]

That wil be one of a 01 score, looking forward to it. Good luck.

[s7e9h3n]

nice s7e9h3n can't wait too see some 154/1900 XTX action. :toast:

You going to do 3D 05 and maybe go for an single card WR in 05 ? :)
What is the WR? I noticed just yesterday that run with the FX60 @ 3.4 and the card @ 900/930 - Think I have a shot with single core?

Also @ yngndrw: These heatpiped aren't the kind that were fluid-filled. Instead, they used some kind of substance similar to a copper sponge :confused: In any case, no fluid, so no vacuum required ;)

[SIOUX]

Good luck Steven :toast:

[NickS]

BTW - to everyone else who's interested in my little project - I've basically got everything ready to go. Got to make a backplate and install the cpu and I'll be up and running in a bit....Thanks for the support guys :toast:

Sound's AWESOME man. Can't wait to see some results. :D :woot: :toast:

[Dynasty]

What is the WR? I noticed just yesterday that run with the FX60 @ 3.4 and the card @ 900/930 - Think I have a shot with single core?

Also @ yngndrw: These heatpiped aren't the kind that were fluid-filled. Instead, they used some kind of substance similar to a copper sponge :confused: In any case, no fluid, so no vacuum required ;)

Just over 16K on 05 is WR-single card X1900 series.

You could break record with higher clks.

[Jort]

Also @ yngndrw: These heatpiped aren't the kind that were fluid-filled. Instead, they used some kind of substance similar to a copper sponge :confused: In any case, no fluid, so no vacuum required ;)

cool, heatsponges:D

yeah c'mon mount that evap would you;)
you did a nice job on the coolingpart thats for sure:woot:

[GoriLLakoS]

Nice modding 7e9h3n ....!!!!Hope your card go very very high......

What will be the mobo(sorry if you have mentioned it before..:D)

Are you planning to CF???

The rd580 it gives ~700-800marks more than the rd480:)

[GoriLLakoS]

And as Fugger have said to other threads..:
Turn off the Catalyst AI for certain
tests and gain 1000+ points. This works even better with CF

[Plywood99]

These heatpiped aren't the kind that were fluid-filled. Instead, they used some kind of substance similar to a copper sponge :confused: In any case, no fluid, so no vacuum required ;)

s7e9h3n I would reccomend testing the chipset cooler first. The heatpipes you are refering to are sintered copper heatpipes. There should have been some kind of liquid in them, usually water in a vacuum. Cutting them may have hindered performance.

You could do a quick and dirty fix though. Put just a little water in them and heat the pipe up to just below boiling to expand the air inside. Then braze the ends shut. This will cause a good size vacuum inside the heatpipe, hopefully allowing the water to evaporate to a adequate degree...

Or I could be totally off...:banana: :banana: :banana:

[s7e9h3n]

Nice modding 7e9h3n ....!!!!Hope your card go very very high......

What will be the mobo(sorry if you have mentioned it before..:D)

Are you planning to CF???

The rd580 it gives ~700-800marks more than the rd480:)
Thanks! DFI Ultra-D...

BTW, I was originally supposed to be sent a DFI RD580 board, but I've heard there may be complications with the board and the chipset as in some of their first production samples the instant the mobo was turned on, either it was a mosfet or capacitor would explode (I don't remember which).

[s7e9h3n]

s7e9h3n I would reccomend testing the chipset cooler first. The heatpipes you are refering to are sintered copper heatpipes. There should have been some kind of liquid in them, usually water in a vacuum. Cutting them may have hindered performance.

You could do a quick and dirty fix though. Put just a little water in them and heat the pipe up to just below boiling to expand the air inside. Then braze the ends shut. This will cause a good size vacuum inside the heatpipe, hopefully allowing the water to evaporate to a adequate degree...

Or I could be totally off...:banana: :banana: :banana:
Hmmm....I'm positive there was absolutely no liquid in them unless there was so little, that nothing seeped out when I cut the tubes. I've got another lying around so in case I'm wrong, I'll try what you suggested. Just curious though - how would I heat the pipe to "just below boiling to expand the air inside" and then braze the ends shut without totally evaporating the liquid?

[s7e9h3n]

And as Fugger have said to other threads..:
Turn off the Catalyst AI for certain
tests and gain 1000+ points. This works even better with CF
Wow...that's quite a gain - anybody know what to do specifically?

[Plywood99]

how would I heat the pipe to "just below boiling to expand the air inside" and then braze the ends shut without totally evaporating the liquid?


Lol, since the pipe will be heated when brazing that should take care of that part. If it gets too hot, then keep the other end of the pipe in a cup of water.

[tHe_jOkeR]

wanna see results :D

[GoriLLakoS]

The asus with the rd580 can only give 1.6 to cpu and 3.2 to memory...so you will need a mode there.....!!

The saphire inovation gives 2.1 to core and 4V yo memory....:D

For the DFI i don't know anything...:(

Wow...that's quite a gain - anybody know what to do specifically?


I suppose...simply close the Catalyst AI..:D

[s7e9h3n]

wanna see results :D
Comin up soon - grabbin a bite to eat and then mounting evaporators afterwards....

[Plywood99]

The saphire inovation gives 2.1 to core and 4V yo memory....:D

:woot:
I want that Sapphire board!!!

[perkam]

Steven, looking forward to the runs....though what speed are you gonna benching the cpu at ? :) Wanted to recommend the Opty 154 to a friend and found out they're ~$900 :eek:

Perkam

[SIOUX]

yes...here in DK they are more expensive than the FX-57 also:( Sorry for OT Steve:toast:

[Dynasty]

Thats one thing I always found nice about the LS clamshell, easy to mod
& mount new vga cards like 7800/1800/1900 series cards.

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/8803/7800gtxprepforlsmounting4bx.gif (http://imageshack.us)

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8607/7800gtxprepforlsmount8pi.gif (http://imageshack.us)

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/8044/7800gtxprepforlsmountb2rb.gif (http://imageshack.us)

pictures courtesy of Fatty's LS mounting guide,
posted on VR while back.

Hey, Stephen when you get all finished, up and running can you
post some pics of the evap./mounting of X1900 on Baker Gpu unit.. thanks. :toast:

[s7e9h3n]

Steven, looking forward to the runs....though what speed are you gonna benching the cpu at ? :) Wanted to recommend the Opty 154 to a friend and found out they're ~$900 :eek:

Perkam
I'm gonna probably run it initially @ 3750 and work my way up from there. I've been trying to find the sweet spot for the cpu, but @ ~270+FSB the cold-bug likes to make visits with my setup :rolleyes: BUT, for some odd reason, I'm able to at least stay in windows with a lower multi, but higher HTT. Here's what I think makes this cpu one of the most amazing I've ever seen - this is 1:1 :eek:

http://www.cryo-laboratory.com/upload/userfiles/s7e9h3n/Opty%20154/13x305valid.jpg

4g is definately possible @ the x13 multi and OPB tells me that he thinks the cpu may be benchable @ 13x300...now the race is on to find TCCD capable of benching at that kind of speed. 300Mhz, 2.5-3-3-5 @ the x13 multi is as hard on the memory as 11x320mhz 2.5-3-3-5....

[perkam]

Hmmm...hey steven, if you have the time or the resources, see what you get in 3dmark05 at 1600x1200 4xAA and 8xAF :) But ofcourse thats up to you :up:

Perkam

[s7e9h3n]

yes...here in DK they are more expensive than the FX-57 also:( Sorry for OT Steve:toast:
Hey Sioux, NP man - you've earned the right to go OT in my threads..lol :toast:

@ perkam: If your friend decides to make the jump, don't forget to remind him that these cpu's run INCREDIBLY hot. Hotter than most any other cpu I've ever seen - even a x2 @ 1.6V.....

@ Dynasty: Here's what my insulation looks like now:

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1223/topinsul9ub.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5453/backinsul6bq.jpg

[s7e9h3n]

Hmmm...hey steven, if you have the time or the resources, see what you get in 3dmark05 at 1600x1200 4xAA and 8xAF :) But ofcourse thats up to you :up:

Perkam
OK...I'll try that when I get a chance, but that'll probably kick my system's ass :p:

[eBoy0]

Hey steph, is that nail polish you used or something else?

[Staucher]

:clap: nice setup... im coming benches??

[Circaflex]

s7e9h3n you can either disable catalyst AI in the drivers itself, or atitool can disable it too.

[eBoy0]

Dynasty, can you link me to this coating? :)

[njkid32]

This thread needs to stay on topic! PM's have been sent and there shouldnt be anymore problems...

Stephen lets see some #'s now:)

Edit: I cleaned up the thread so we can now just focus on Stephens work...

[TheMeatFrog]

Lookin good steve, your mods are always firstclass. ;)

[Dumo]

benchable @ 13x300...now the race is on to find TCCD capable of benching at that kind of speed. 300Mhz, 2.5-3-3-5 @ the x13 multi is as hard on the memory as 11x320mhz 2.5-3-3-5....The comeback kid ....TCCD:) I'm looking for one too.
Your 154 and a cold 1900 will yield amazing scores:toast:

[Gautam]

13x300 :eek:

It'll easily be the fastest AMD in '01, at least the way things stand now...those dual cores won't be easy to catch in the others, but then again, neither is that GPU cooler. :p:

[s7e9h3n]

Let's Rock :cool:

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/9859/dualpsu1uv.jpg

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/5312/dualevap9cc.jpg

[s7e9h3n]

Dynasty, can you link me to this coating? :)
http://mgchemicals.com/products/422a.html
I use both the aerosol version (on the back of the pcb) and the brush-on version (on the mobo socket area and gpu)

[eBoy0]

http://mgchemicals.com/products/422a.html
I use both the aerosol version (on the back of the pcb) and the brush-on version (on the mobo socket area and gpu)

Thanks, any diffrence from nail polish?

[Gautam]

Since drooling over the phase change is a given, I'll just say I love that blower of yours. Have one myself that's probably about half the length but quite a bit thicker. That dangling ATX connector from the second PSU is a nice touch too. :D

[s7e9h3n]

Since drooling over the phase change is a given, I'll just say I love that blower of yours. Have one myself that's probably about half the length but quite a bit thicker. That dangling ATX connector from the second PSU is a nice touch too. :D
Hehehe....that's a 220V AC squirrel cage. I first had it wired up to 110V because I thought at full speed, it would blow all the components off my mobo :p: Needless to say, I ended up wiring it into my autocascade's 220V plug and now I get a healthy tornado every time I run my unit....
That ATX plug is strategically placed there as it helps me OC higher in that position :D

[s7e9h3n]

Thanks, any diffrence from nail polish?
It's conformal coating - the same stuff they use to coat PCB's....

[G H Z]

Should be closer to 51K looking at that setup. I say skip the TCCD unless you do find 300Mhz benchable. If you get everything working at max clocks from that point on it is simply knowing how to setup Windows and using the right benching technique & test order(s).

When you get off your first hard run I'll see if there is anything I can help out with, I'm pretty sure you will blow right past me :D
All the pieces seem to be in place.

[Gautam]

You can't seriously just sit there and let him "blow right past" you. :D

[perkam]

XTX's can do 800/900 on water...so this should be interesting :)

G/L for 900/1000 benchable man :) Go for Sampsa's 1ghz/2ghz 2D :up:

Perkam

[G H Z]

You can't seriously just sit there and let him "blow right past" you. :D

Getting setup for DI on this card, hoping there is no coldbug ;)

[afireinside]

There we go, nice looking setup stephen :D

[njkid32]

Well I just got off the phone with Stephen and the video card is sweating sooo much that something might have gotten damaged. Its raining there so its really humid. Or maybe its really scared of what he is going to do to it:) We just hope that his cpu isnt damaged in any way cuz the video card can be replaced:(. It just wont post at all and with all the evaps and stuff in the way he cant use his soyo tech aid to see what codes its giving. So everyone keep your fingers crossed...

[afireinside]

Damn... Pull it all apart and take a hair dryer to it ASAP. Should have popped the shim off the card. With dice on my x800pro I got the entire thing wet twice and kept getting water in the PCIE slot until I removed the shim.

[G H Z]

Another of the fun little happenings that make 3D benching so tough, hope all the hardware is alright :)

[Dumo]

kept getting water in the PCIE slot until I removed the shim.Dielectric grease on the socket will help.

@Stephen....Hope all is ok.

[afireinside]

http://afireinside.evilspork.net/AFI/OPTERON/mpot1.JPG

Filled the entire PCIE slot with grease both times and still water...

[Dynasty]

Hopefully the hardware is ok. But, yeah tell him to take out an hair dryer
and dry everything off.
He seemed to insulate the X1900 XTX pretty nicely, what specific
area on vga could be damaged ?

[njkid32]

He was so fed up he went to bed so it looks like he will deal with it tomorrow.

[ahmad]

Damn what a shame. All that setup and hard work :(

Well I wish you the best of luck steven, and don't give up on us! I sure hope your CPU stays in tact.

[Gautam]

Sorry for your troubles bro. :-/ Hopefully everything's working all right.

If nothing else, just go the half-ass way and have a fan blowing on the PCI-E slot. Hurts temps a bit but puts a stop to condensation. I had a lot of trouble with it myself, and my card was only at around -25C or so.

[Jort]

damn that sucks.

btw Stephen blowers are the best :D

http://users.telenet.be/jortcollijn/A64_overclocking/venice/pic2.JPG

http://users.telenet.be/jortcollijn/A64_overclocking/venice/pic3.JPG

:banana:

good luck;)

[Levish]

Maybe insulating the pci-e slot (topside and bottomside) will help keep condensation from forming in it?

Hopefully nothing is fried and just needs to be dried out.

Pity a few caps are in the way around there topside on that board.

[s7e9h3n]

Hi all,

Thanks for all the suggestions on the condensation proofing, but I've already done everything that was suggested - dielectric grease, more insulation, etc. I tried booting the card again today and the first attempt yielded the exact same response as the non-boots of last night. Pulled the card and found water running on the board by the pcie slots. Luckily, the dielectric grease looks as if it saved the electronics. Took a hair drier to the card and the board and then rebooted - this time with the card ARTIFACTING HARD. Barely was able to make out the bios screen. I let it boot into windows and things were a little better as I suspect that the heat from the card was finally drying a few things out. Set the vgpu to 1.5V and things started to clear up a little further. Still can't get off a bench though as the cold is still causing condensation on the card. It's odd since I thought that these cards were hotter than the x850xtpe and my insulation is better on this card. ATITool reports the GPU @ -52C even with the condensation so temps stand to get better once I reinsulate. So in short - the good news is that the card APPEARS to be OK - the bad news is that since it's raining outside, condensation will continue to build unless I figure out a solution.....which I think I have :hehe: Things are about to get a little wicked here......I'm gonna take a portable airconditioner and set it up in the room. Running it for a couple of hours should remove all the moisture from the air. I'm still trying to figure out how to run the airconditioner and my dual phase changers without popping the circuit breaker though. Once I get that ironed out, get ready to see every AMD record fall since my autocascade should be able to bottom out at close to -100C with the AC blowing directly at the unit :woot:

[Coroner Kyle]

Get this man a diesel generator or a really long extension cord to plug into the neighbors' house. ;)

[TheMeatFrog]

Fewwwww glad all your h/w (especially the cpu) is still safe, gave me quite a scare there. :p:

[s7e9h3n]

Fewwwww glad all your h/w (especially the cpu) is still safe, gave me quite a scare there. :p:
Gave YOU quite a scare?...think about how I must have felt :p: :toast:

[s7e9h3n]

Get this man a diesel generator or a really long extension cord to plug into the neighbors' house. ;)
I've thought about using an extension cord, but I don't have one long enough that can carry that much amperage on the line. Hopefully I won't have to resort to "Plan B" which would involve building a sealed box and purging/flowing with nitrogen through it.......

[Plywood99]

I've thought about using an extension cord, but I don't have one long enough that can carry that much amperage on the line. Hopefully I won't have to resort to "Plan B" which would involve building a sealed box and purging/flowing with nitrogen through it.......


Now that, I would like to see.:fact:

[s7e9h3n]

Now that, I would like to see.:fact:
I think it's been done before. I was talking to CHilly1 about it and he was saying to do this and flow ~4psi of CO2 through the box while the unit was running. Since I don't have CO2, nitrogen will be fine. I've got an 80cu ft tank sitting in my garage so I shouldn't run out of gas if I decide to take that route - Of course i could always make it easier on myself by just waiting for a sunny day to bench :p:

[cyron1]

GL stephen

[TheMeatFrog]

Gave YOU quite a scare?...think about how I must have felt :p: :toast:
hehe your heart must have skipped a beat, or two ;)

[Coroner Kyle]

I think it's been done before. I was talking to CHilly1 about it and he was saying to do this and flow ~4psi of CO2 through the box while the unit was running. Since I don't have CO2, nitrogen will be fine. I've got an 80cu ft tank sitting in my garage so I shouldn't run out of gas if I decide to take that route - Of course i could always make it easier on myself by just waiting for a sunny day to bench :p:


Sounds like that could be dangerous so make sure that you have adequate ventilation. "You could stand around in a room of pure Nitrogen gas (with no Oxygen) breathing normally and you wouldn't percieve much of anything wrong until you passed out and died, indeed people have."

WR's can wait for sunny days. ;)

[Dynasty]

Get this man a diesel generator or a really long extension cord to plug into the neighbors' house. ;)


An 15 KVA should do the trick. :p:

[Byron]

...and i thought an intel rig consumes more powah than this! :D :p:

good luck waiting for some benches with that babeh ;) http://img252.echo.cx/img252/4391/msmiley18xh.gif

[dinos22]

...and i thought an intel rig consumes more powah than this! :D :p:

good luck waiting for some benches with that babeh ;) http://img252.echo.cx/img252/4391/msmiley18xh.gif
:lol:

[perkam]

dinos22...i had tears in my eyes looking at your sig :lol:

Perkam

[dinos22]

dinos22...i had tears in my eyes looking at your sig :lol:

Perkam
:ROTF: i know i'm still crying man

[Cpt Twitchy]

:ROTF: i know i'm still crying man
Are they still going to germany :p: ? I do like the new sig.

Back on topic. Glad to hear all the HW is ok and fine :cool:

[afireinside]

I told you it's the shim... take it off and your golden. If you want to keep having condensation issues every single time like I did then you don't have to take my advice...

[STEvil]

does the conformal coating only cover the areas that were glowing under the UV light or have you added more since then?

If its only those areas you might want to put more on.

[s7e9h3n]

I told you it's the shim... take it off and your golden. If you want to keep having condensation issues every single time like I did then you don't have to take my advice...
What is it about the shim that causes this? My shim is still on my x850xtpe and didn't have any probs....

[s7e9h3n]

does the conformal coating only cover the areas that were glowing under the UV light or have you added more since then?

If its only those areas you might want to put more on.
Yup, the glowing is all the conformal coating I've used - is there any reason why I should be using more? Just curious.....

[Bennah]

Glad that evreything looks to be on track now. I hope you get the right weather over there soon so you can fire everything up and get to breaking some records.

Good luck my friend :toast:

[afireinside]

I'm going to assume the shim on your old card was a bit low and the new one is perfect height... Which puts the cooler in or VERY close to direct contact with it. This means your freezing a piece of metal on the GPU which is on the PCB. So the PCB freezes over a lot faster. Same thing happens with the IHS on a CPU. Chills the board over faster. Which is why you got frost on yours :p: I NEVER had condensation issues for even 5-6 hours benching dry ice. I tried an IHS once and I had issues after 45 minutes. Half the bord was below freezing.

[s7e9h3n]

I'm going to assume the shim on your old card was a bit low and the new one is perfect height... Which puts the cooler in or VERY close to direct contact with it. This means your freezing a piece of metal on the GPU which is on the PCB. So the PCB freezes over a lot faster. Same thing happens with the IHS on a CPU. Chills the board over faster. Which is why you got frost on yours :p: I NEVER had condensation issues for even 5-6 hours benching dry ice. I tried an IHS once and I had issues after 45 minutes. Half the bord was below freezing.
Looks like this may be something I need to try. I never thought that benching this card would be such an ordeal :rolleyes: This card just refuses to stop sweating. Here are a few pics of what the card looked like after running for ~20 minutes the other day:

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5910/topwater1zl.jpg

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/5705/sidewater1ht.jpg

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/2341/backwater4fv.jpg

Changing to a thicker backplate helped a bit, but still have problems with condensation. I think that's why the card wouldn't boot with an Expert today. Hopefully I'll get this figured out so I can finally get some serious runs in.....

[cadaveca]

heh you got frost on the regulator heatsink. Nice job! look forward to seeing those final numbers.

[eBoy0]

That looks horrible :( , try the old plastic bag trick? Wrap the card in a plastic bag and seal off the PCI-E column with sealstring.

[Cpt Twitchy]

Looks like you need one of those dehumidifier/airchillers Shamino made. GL on getting her back up for ORB action

[afireinside]

http://afireinside.evilspork.net/AFI/OPTERON/frost1.JPG

thats what happened on a low humidity night when I had the shim on my card. First run was on a 90% humidity hot summer day. Replace all the frost with water and thats what happened. I had no problem on an average humidity warm day after removing the shim.

[STEvil]

Yup, the glowing is all the conformal coating I've used - is there any reason why I should be using more? Just curious.....

if its metal and exposed it can and likely will conduct.

Did you seal around the bottom of the substrate of the core? May want to try and inject some kind of inert gas into it then seal it... going a bit above and beyond but thats me ;)

[conrad.maranan]

May want to try and inject some kind of inert gas into it then seal it... going a bit above and beyond but thats me ;)
CO2 works. ;)

[Gautam]

Afire's right...my card frosts up easily chilled, yet the times I've done dice and seen it done, there was none...and now come to think of it I've never had a CPU with an IHS, for one reason or another.

Just try pointing a high velocity fan at the card, worked for me. You want it blowing before you fire up the unit though. An air conditioner or dehumidifier would probably work even better.

[s7e9h3n]

OK, De-shimmed.....
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2126/shimless1rs.jpg

Also, I was trying my best to avoid using this stuff, but ultimately, it's probably the best thing to use in this situation. The black stuff on the board is this really thin sheet insulation that's used in roofing. It's got the consistency of seal-string only it's A LOT more sticky and permanent. I don't like using it too often since it's almost impossible to get off and there's the slight chance that when pulling it off, IC's will come off along with it :rolleyes:

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7308/backinsul2rs.jpg

I'll redo the insulation over this and then there will be NO WAY any moisture will build on the card.


@Stevil - I made sure I used a thick enough coat of conformal coating that it didn't leave any exposed metal. I just didn't expect just how far the frost ended up spreading on this card.......

[afireinside]

Looks good now :D You won't have any issues at all.

[CRUSH-ER]

rofl...I de shimmed my ati cards three years ago. Remove those buggers!

[eBoy0]

Looks great man! I would have tryed like glad WRAP or something first.... permanent = no good :(

[chunkylover77]

Look Steven you are an innovator in the field of chipset cooling. :D
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=4144

[turbox997]

Wow, this is great, I haven't been on here for days, then I stumble upon this thread and read every single post from PAGE 1, the suspense, drama, and continuation is just breathe taking!!!

Rock on s7e9h3n!!! And nice setup/ rig, looks like real quality work and attention to details!!! It's just outrageous and XTREME!! Keep up the work and keep us posted. :clap:

:toast:

[hipro5]

rofl...I de shimmed my ati cards three years ago. Remove those buggers!

We used to do so but now if you take a closer look, the core is a bit above the shim......;)

[PlatoonSgtElias]

Nice workt there :) Got my XTX yesterday. Installed drivers from CD and it shows me 500\600 clocks... wtf? And Everest 2006 shows X1900XT... though on card it is X1900XT-X. Installin 6.2 cats now... see if it changes things. Gonna build a aircooling system on it today.
Gonna build Dryice container onto it :P Yonah on the way here and mobo also soon ;)
Have u got volt modds done to it?

[s7e9h3n]

Look Steven you are an innovator in the field of chipset cooling. :D
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=4144
Funny thing is I also received one of those for review the day AFTER I did my little mod -> I had no idea they were gonna copy me :p:

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/9137/chipforce3sp.jpg

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8994/surface5xr.jpg

Too bad I couldn't do the review since I've come to the conclusion that the 154 is dead :( I think I'm gonna cry......did I mention how much I hate these s939 Opties :rolleyes:

[s7e9h3n]

Nice workt there :) Got my XTX yesterday. Installed drivers from CD and it shows me 500\600 clocks... wtf? And Everest 2006 shows X1900XT... though on card it is X1900XT-X. Installin 6.2 cats now... see if it changes things. Gonna build a aircooling system on it today.
Gonna build Dryice container onto it :P Yonah on the way here and mobo also soon ;)
Have u got volt modds done to it?
It shouldn't need any vmods as voltage is adjustable through software....but I'd be interested to know if there are any hard-mods......HIPRO? :p:

[Dumo]

I've come to the conclusion that the 154 is deadWhat happened:eek:

[\Karting_freak]

Stephen
how could it happen?! golden 154 is dead
:cry:

[chunkylover77]

Man Stephen I am sorry to hear that. Maybe you can get a nice FX-60 to replace it. Hey let me know how you like that chipset cooler. I am interested in something like that. Would take the 40mm fan off it though and run it passive.

[s7e9h3n]

What happened:eek:
I have NO IDEA - basically installed it in an Expert (which was tested in perfect working condition) and tried to boot -> straight to FF on the Debug card. I thought it may have been an issue with condensation on the video card so I reinsulated and booted....same result. For those that don't know - when a debug card shows a post code of "FF" immediately upon powering up, it usually means that the cpu is dead. I didn't want to believe that so I put the 154 back in the Ultra-D and this time instead of the 4 status lights staying lit on the board, the board just immediately shut down. When this happens, it can be a lot of different probs, but usually it means that the board is shorted somewhere. I checked everything and it looked fine, but the power still wouldn't stay on with the 154 installed. I didn't have another working cpu, but I DO have 2 dead FX57's here so I installed one into the board to see what would happen. The board turned on and stayed on with the 4 lights staying lit. Now this was starting to drive me crazy since I'd never seen an instance where the CPU was actually shorting the board out, but it seems to be the case with this Opty. I ended up trying the 154 in my daily water rig and the exact same result took place - a flash of power for a millisecond and then nothing. I've tried everything to get this cpu to boot, but I'm afraid it's beyond repair....this really sux....Oh, well - I guess it gives me an excuse to go dual core now :p:

[perkam]

SOrry to hear bout 154... :( Looks like another cpu goes quietly into the night cos of the Expert :(

Perkam

[SIOUX]

Realy sorry to hear that Steve :(

[Dumo]

I didn't want to believe that so I put the 154 back in the Ultra-D and this time instead of the 4 status lights staying lit on the board, the board just immediately shut down. When this happens, it can be a lot of different probs, but usually it means that the board is shorted somewhere. I checked everything and it looked fine, but the power still wouldn't stay on with the 154 installed. Oh, well - I guess it gives me an excuse to go dual core now :p:Sorry to hear that Stephen....Same here with 57 0516:( , but sometimes I put it on and power it up to see if it has "lazarus" miracle:)
Save the headache and don't go FX60 route, its still bugged up to 0550.

[JasonDTM]

I have NO IDEA - basically installed it in an Expert (which was tested in perfect working condition) and tried to boot -> straight to FF on the Debug card. I thought it may have been an issue with condensation on the video card so I reinsulated and booted....same result. For those that don't know - when a debug card shows a post code of "FF" immediately upon powering up, it usually means that the cpu is dead. I didn't want to believe that so I put the 154 back in the Ultra-D and this time instead of the 4 status lights staying lit on the board, the board just immediately shut down. When this happens, it can be a lot of different probs, but usually it means that the board is shorted somewhere. I checked everything and it looked fine, but the power still wouldn't stay on with the 154 installed. I didn't have another working cpu, but I DO have 2 dead FX57's here so I installed one into the board to see what would happen. The board turned on and stayed on with the 4 lights staying lit. Now this was starting to drive me crazy since I'd never seen an instance where the CPU was actually shorting the board out, but it seems to be the case with this Opty. I ended up trying the 154 in my daily water rig and the exact same result took place - a flash of power for a millisecond and then nothing. I've tried everything to get this cpu to boot, but I'm afraid it's beyond repair....this really sux....Oh, well - I guess it gives me an excuse to go dual core now :p:


Bummer man.. same thing when my ex- 3700+ died. sorry to hear that your sweety is dead, looking forward to Dual Core results now! :)

[s7e9h3n]

Yeah, I was really looking forward to running the card/cpu together - 3800Mhz on the cpu + 900/900 on the x1900xtx would have put up some nice numbers. I may just have to pull the "FX56" out and throw her on the autocascade - she doesn't have a cold-bug, but she's DEFINATELY Mhz limited to probably 3.3-3.4Ghz....:rolleyes:

[JasonDTM]

I'm pretty sure if you give the FX56 a sharp kick in the ass you'll get a few mhz ;) I got 100mhz on my winny by kicking it. :D

[s7e9h3n]

Save the headache and don't go FX60 route, its still bugged up to 0550.
Hopefully we'll see something special from my AMD guy - he's been working on getting me a "nice" FX60 to play with ;)

[s7e9h3n]

I'm pretty sure if you give the FX56 a sharp kick in the ass you'll get a few mhz ;) I got 100mhz on my winny by kicking it. :D
Lol...that's the LAST thing I'd try as she's the only WORKING cpu I've got left. :p: Plus, considering my luck (or lack of) with cpu's the last few weeks, a kick would probably result in the cpu LOSING a few hundred mhz and then fry my mobo and memory after I open up CPUZ :p:

[HousERaT]

Yeah, I was really looking forward to running the card/cpu together - 3800Mhz on the cpu + 900/900 on the x1900xtx would have put up some nice numbers. I may just have to pull the "FX56" out and throw her on the autocascade - she doesn't have a cold-bug, but she's DEFINATELY Mhz limited to probably 3.3-3.4Ghz....:rolleyes:

sorry to hear about your loss s7e9h3n. I'm also hoping to see some good runs from you. Hopefully you can get back in the game soon. :(

[JasonDTM]

It was just a suggestion, but thats a real bummer dude, that 154 needs to be framed, I think its earned it eh? :)

[s7e9h3n]

It was just a suggestion, but thats a real bummer dude, that 154 needs to be framed, I think its earned it eh? :)
Nope, this cpu doesn't even deserve to be on my wall of shame after benching for probably <15-20 hours TOTAL - did I mention I hate s939 Opties ( I know I did, just wanted to reiterate :p: )

[perkam]

stephen needs some rd580 goodness :banana:

Perkam

[s7e9h3n]

stephen needs some rd580 goodness :banana:

Perkam
I had that covered until DFI had some problems with their test boards :rolleyes: ATM, though, the LAST thing I need is ANOTHER mobo - I've got 4 working boards and 1 working cpu :p: I'm hoping for a "shipment" of cpu's very soon though :woot:

[perkam]

Well...the RD580s are gonna be starting with a clean sheet...no dead CPUs and counting...though that may change with some Oscar Wu magic :p:

Perkam

[nn_step]

I have NO IDEA - basically installed it in an Expert (which was tested in perfect working condition) and tried to boot -> straight to FF on the Debug card. I thought it may have been an issue with condensation on the video card so I reinsulated and booted....same result. For those that don't know - when a debug card shows a post code of "FF" immediately upon powering up, it usually means that the cpu is dead. I didn't want to believe that so I put the 154 back in the Ultra-D and this time instead of the 4 status lights staying lit on the board, the board just immediately shut down. When this happens, it can be a lot of different probs, but usually it means that the board is shorted somewhere. I checked everything and it looked fine, but the power still wouldn't stay on with the 154 installed. I didn't have another working cpu, but I DO have 2 dead FX57's here so I installed one into the board to see what would happen. The board turned on and stayed on with the 4 lights staying lit. Now this was starting to drive me crazy since I'd never seen an instance where the CPU was actually shorting the board out, but it seems to be the case with this Opty. I ended up trying the 154 in my daily water rig and the exact same result took place - a flash of power for a millisecond and then nothing. I've tried everything to get this cpu to boot, but I'm afraid it's beyond repair....this really sux....Oh, well - I guess it gives me an excuse to go dual core now :p:

Sad.. another death caused by expert...:(

[thunderstruck!]

Sad.. another death caused by expert...:(
Who said the expert killed the CPU?

[perry_78]

Who said the expert killed the CPU?

By method of induction that is the conclusion one would arrive at.

[Cpt Twitchy]

Come on s7e9h3n we know they didn't copy you. You both had the same idea he just had a prototype first :D

[s7e9h3n]

Come on s7e9h3n we know they didn't copy you. You both had the same idea he just had a prototype first :D
Actually, I had my pics up of my custom job before any pics of the other one were even available :p:

[Coroner Kyle]

By method of induction that is the conclusion one would arrive at.

Maybe indirectly, but I thought it had more to do with condensation issues on the graphics card possibly causing a short, thus causing the Expert to claim another life. BUT, I was not there...

[s7e9h3n]

Maybe indirectly, but I thought it had more to do with condensation issues on the graphics card possibly causing a short, thus causing the Expert to claim another life. BUT, I was not there...
Condensation wasn't as much of an issue as I thought....Basicaly it was the cpu which was starting to act up. I don't want to blame teh Expert, yet it would be hard for me to believe that it didn't play a PART in the cpu's demise.....Kyle, you've got more cpu's that I do - send me that 4600+ QUICK! IT NEEDS TO BE TESTED IN THE COLD - I'LL DO YOU A FAVOR THIS TIME....TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MY GENEROSITY NOW!!! :D

[Dumo]

Next chip?.....j/k;)
Cold bug made me do it:)

http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/1816/screenshot0660ey.jpg

[SIOUX]

Next chip?.....j/k;)
Cold bug made me do it:)

http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/1816/screenshot0660ey.jpg


DUMO...have you gone to the dark side:confused: :D

[Dynasty]

Next chip?.....j/k;)
Cold bug made me do it:)

http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/1816/screenshot0660ey.jpg

They are also cheaper then fx60's. :toast:

Did you get an board for it yet ?

[SIOUX]

wouldn't you for a Pentium M with an unlocked multi?;)


No..indeed no;)

[Dumo]

DUMO...have you gone to the dark side:confused: :DOn the way:) Just about to close the 'store'..and open a new ones;)

Actually it is Core duo T2600ES. Board is on the way.
Sorry oot.

[SIOUX]

On the way:) Just about to close the 'store'..and open a new ones;)
Sorry oot.


Good luck:toast: Sorry for OT steve:)

[s7e9h3n]

NP Guys....Even I'M considering having a go with a Yonah after seeing the preliminary results (but I bet it wouldn't make a few people I know very happy :p: ).....They should be nice on my autocascade - which chilly1 says can be tuned for -130 temps for the PentM's :D

[Dumo]

Its now up to 45nm Intel chip and Aopen mobo.....Hope this combo won't have cold bug @ -90C. If they get it than I am going to bite Apple Mac:) No choice..

[s7e9h3n]

Its now up to 45nm Intel chip and Aopen mobo.....Hope this combo won't have cold bug @ -90C. If they get it than I am going to bite Apple Mac:) No choice..
LOL...Cascaded Mac :D

[s7e9h3n]

Yonah T2600 ES + 975x + dual gfx :slobber:

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/1720/aopeni975xaydgm27sh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Sry, for OT Stephen.
Stop apologizing guys! I obviously have nothing to fill this thread space with ATM, so why not entertain with a preview :D BTW...I know of someone with 2 of these boards IN HAND ;)

[Dumo]

Nice..I think this 4 holes mounting will fit any universally monted evap...

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/1030/screenshot0704aa.jpg

[pythagoras]

Have you removed all the heatsinks from memory and vrms on that gfx now?

Regards

John.

[s7e9h3n]

Have you removed all the heatsinks from memory and vrms on that gfx now?

Regards

John.
No, why would I do that? :p:

[pythagoras]

Because they are warming up the memory chips and vrms;)

You have condensation on them which means the air temperature is warmer that the heatsinks. If you remove them and insulate both memory and vrms you will make them run cooler and prevent any condensation touching the electronics of the card as you can insulate the whole card.

Regards

John.

[s7e9h3n]

Because they are warming up the memory chips and vrms;)

You have condensation on them which means the air temperature is warmer that the heatsinks. If you remove them and insulate both memory and vrms you will make them run cooler and prevent any condensation touching the electronics of the card as you can insulate the whole card.

Regards

John.
OIC....hmmm..never thought of trying that. This is my new insulation - it seems to work well and in fact, the temps are about 10C better now that the card is insulated like this (~-64C Evap). No visible probs with condensation anymore, but should I still attempt the insulation as you suggest?:toast:

http://img323.imageshack.us/img323/1190/newtopinsul0ml.jpg

[pythagoras]

If the heatsinks are still colder than the air yes, notice how more insulation got you colder temps;) Measure the temp of the heatsinks if they are below ambient remove them and insulate.

Regards

John.

[s7e9h3n]

If the heatsinks are still colder than the air yes, notice how more insulation got you colder temps;) Measure the temp of the heatsinks if they are below ambient remove them and insulate.

Regards

John.
I know that condensation slightly builds on the heatsinks AFTER I shut the unit down (due to the evap head still being cold), but for the most part I don't see much building up on them while I'm in windows. I haven't been able to test the card too much while @ load :rolleyes: but I'll be sure to check when I can. Thanks for the advice :toast:

[pythagoras]

Yes should have said, make sure the card is maxed out when you check the temps of the heatsinks:toast:

Regards

John.

[thunderstruck!]

I don't think people should have to pick favorites and stick to it. There's nothing wrong with Intel (now), hf Dumo!

[s7e9h3n]

The thing I still find odd about these cards is just how much the cold spreads THROUGH the entire card vs. the X850xtpe. I had LESS insulation on that card and no probs whatsoever with condensation. This card, however, is a total different story.....:confused:

[JasonDTM]

Nope, this cpu doesn't even deserve to be on my wall of shame after benching for probably <15-20 hours TOTAL - did I mention I hate s939 Opties ( I know I did, just wanted to reiterate :p: )

Oooh late reply from me, that 154 does deserve it and it doesnt, I think I need an RD580 board... this RDX200 is really killing my clocks, 2750mhz is about all I get it :confused: everything else I try it just spits chunks... Will work for DFi or Sapphire RD580 board. :D

[hipro5]

The thing I still find odd about these cards is just how much the cold spreads THROUGH the entire card vs. the X850xtpe. I had LESS insulation on that card and no probs whatsoever with condensation. This card, however, is a total different story.....:confused:

The more "pins" (balls) the core has soldered onto pcb of the VGA, the more cold goes through them and spreads through the entire card.......;)

[s7e9h3n]

The more "pins" (balls) the core has soldered onto pcb of the VGA, the more cold goes through them and spreads through the entire card.......;)
Thanx for the explanation - that makes sense :D Now how about some hard mods for the voltages???:toast:

[hipro5]

Thanx for the explanation - that makes sense :D Now how about some hard mods for the voltages???:toast:


There is one resistor as for the VCore.......As for rams, I haven't tryed coz no need for that. They already can get too much Voltage through software without helping them much.........:)

[s7e9h3n]

There is one resistor as for the VCore.......As for rams, I haven't tryed coz no need for that. They already can get too much Voltage through software without helping them much.........:)
What's the max vcore you've used on your card? Is the hard mod more stable than using the software?

[VoRtAn_MaDgE]

What's the max vcore you've used on your card? Is the hard mod more stable than using the software?

The max that software allows :D ...1,575v.
Overclocker reaches 1,6v

[s7e9h3n]

The max that software allows :D ...1,575v.
Overclocker reaches 1,6v
I've tried 1.5 and it doesn't seem too bad on the core :D Just wondering if there's any stability gains by hard-modding the vgpu

[G H Z]

With that cooling you could easily run @ max core voltage. What kind of clocks are you getting out of it now @ 1.5V?

[s7e9h3n]

With that cooling you could easily run @ max core voltage. What kind of clocks are you getting out of it now @ 1.5V?
Well, it was just a little test to see what temps were like - I actually wasn't really configured for any proper runs - Maybe that's why CL crashed 3/4 of the way through the bench @ 900/900 (IIRC) :p:

[Dynasty]

Well, it was just a little test to see what temps were like - I actually wasn't really configured for any proper runs - Maybe that's why CL crashed 3/4 of the way through the bench @ 900/900 (IIRC) :p:


I see you doing 900/900 on that card. :toast:


:p: I was right on the money with your xtx clks. :D

[s7e9h3n]

:p: I was right on the money with your xtx clks. :D
Heheh...I don't know if that was too much for the card to do or if my settings were so sloppy that the test didn't complete. It didn't help that the card was drenched in water either :p: Now that temps are actually 10c cooler, I bet those speeds are possible if not higher. I'm gonna pull the swifty bga coolers off the card after all and just cover up the chips. I think I'm gonna pull the FX56 outta the daily rig and just throw her under the auto and run some 3d @ ~3.2Ghz with the cpu :( Tomorrow I should be getting a dual core :woot:

[Dynasty]

Tomorrow I should be getting a dual core :woot:

CCBHE fx60 ? :D

[s7e9h3n]

CCBHE fx60 ? :D
No, not yet :p: This one should hold me over till then though....

[Cpt Twitchy]

No, not yet :p: This one should hold me over till then though....
lemma guess its a ADBHE 4600+upaw? :D Whatever the code was OPB had, I think I forgot the code. Prolly my brain pooping out again like the black horse.

[\Karting_freak]

Cpt
i think that was ССBHE 4600+ ))

[s7e9h3n]

Cpt
i think that was ССBHE 4600+ ))
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/9143/4600x26wc.jpg

;)

[Cpt Twitchy]

Woohoo I remembered. My brain has not completely failed yet.

[ingentingmendeg]

nice mods, looks impressive

[\Karting_freak]

Steve
i was talking about his new 4600+ ))

[M.Beier]

Traitor Stephen - LONG LIVE x850 series :p:

[s7e9h3n]

Steve
i was talking about his new 4600+ ))
A 4600+ will never be a CCBHE ;)

@ M.Beier: I've still got my x850xtpe and am not finished with her yet ;) It still amazes me that the x850 seems to be clock for clock faster than this new series of video cards except in a couple of tests (at least in 3d01)

[SIOUX]

A 4600+ will never be a CCBHE ;)

@ M.Beier: I've still got my x850xtpe and am not finished with her yet ;) It still amazes me that the x850 seems to be clock for clock faster than this new series of video cards except in a couple of tests (at least in 3d01)


The only reason for that is becourse we cant use catalyst 4.12 with these new gen cards:)

[M.Beier]

The only reason for that is becourse we cant use catalyst 4.12 with these new gen cards:)

Thats just a lie, everybody know x8xx series are faster :D
Uhm, SIOUX, any advise on who's the master of DDR2?? - CAL930?

[Cpt Twitchy]

Funny thing is I also received one of those for review the day AFTER I did my little mod -> I had no idea they were gonna copy me :p:

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/9137/chipforce3sp.jpg

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8994/surface5xr.jpg
I will also be recieving one of these this week for review :cool:

[irenic]

i have been using that chipset cooler since early february :D

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/7400/img05136kq.jpg

got it from this website :

http://www.jingting.com.tw/product/product_cooler/product_cooler_jts0005.html

[c.freak]

That's a nice mod. I think i read that the regulator does get hot. But can it lead to worse overclocking ? Hmmm it sure is a minimal stockcooler on the regulator right now. But if i need a better heatsink then i have to turn around the waterblock, which do have a perfect fit cause i only need a 9 inch tube from the GPU cooler and the northbridge. Any suggestion ?

[Cpt Twitchy]

i have been using that chipset cooler since early february :D

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/7400/img05136kq.jpg

got it from this website :

http://www.jingting.com.tw/product/product_cooler/product_cooler_jts0005.html
How do you like it so far. I am really lookign forward to mine. I also think the person s7e9h3n and I are getting ours from is the first to have them in the US.

Tim

[irenic]

How do you like it so far. I am really lookign forward to mine. I also think the person s7e9h3n and I are getting ours from is the first to have them in the US.

Tim

It's definitely better than stock cooler. stock cooler idle @ 44 and rise to 49 during load. This one never pass 44C during load..
Here is so hot that my room temp is around 32C.

[Cpt Twitchy]

It's definitely better than stock cooler. stock cooler idle @ 44 and rise to 49 during load. This one never pass 44C during load..
Here is so hot that my room temp is around 32C.
Thanks for the hints on temp levels. I just thought this morning that if I buy a temp probe it should work in my mychron2 which I generally use for racing.

Tim

[chunkylover77]

It's definitely better than stock cooler. stock cooler idle @ 44 and rise to 49 during load. This one never pass 44C during load..
Here is so hot that my room temp is around 32C.

Is it quiet? Can it be used passively and can you run SLI with it installed? Sorry for off topic but my DFI chipset fan is driving me :banana:

[s7e9h3n]

It's definitely better than stock cooler. stock cooler idle @ 44 and rise to 49 during load. This one never pass 44C during load..
Here is so hot that my room temp is around 32C.
That's pretty bad imo :( My "Ghetto Pipe" chipset cooler was 28C MAX. I'll see what this one can do a little later today. The 1900xtx should be up and running today and hopefully this little x2 will perform like I expect ;) Stay tuned........

[Supertim0r]

That's pretty bad imo :( My "Ghetto Pipe" chipset cooler was 28C MAX. I'll see what this one can do a little later today. The 1900xtx should be up and running today and hopefully this little x2 will perform like I expect ;) Stay tuned........

Here is so hot that my room temp is around 32C
your 28C is AC on ? :P

[nn_step]

Here is so hot that my room temp is around 32C
your 28C is AC on ? :P
naw that happens when you have enough dry Ice or LN2 in the room;)

[s7e9h3n]

Here is so hot that my room temp is around 32C
your 28C is AC on ? :P
LOl....my autocascade's in my laundry room because it needs a 220V outlet :p: Here's a nice little chipset temp :D :

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9311/14x2681m6cd.jpg

[|-jokker-|]

Powerfull cpu :)
Now let´s see some benchies please :P

[G H Z]

I think you should apply more vcore :D

[s7e9h3n]

I think you should apply more vcore :D
Lol...thay cpu's in Dynasty's rig right now.....I'm about to fire up the autocascade with a dual core in a bit ;)

[G H Z]

I'm curious to see what a 512K dual can do running hard, can't remember ever seeing anyone over 3.2Ghz running one in 3D.

[irenic]

Is it quiet? Can it be used passively and can you run SLI with it installed? Sorry for off topic but my DFI chipset fan is driving me :banana:

I'm not really sure about the fan noise since the vantec fan card inside my casing produce the loudest noise..
Sorry I'm not able to test it with my dual 7800gtx since i bought this heatsink when i sold the GTXs for a XTX :D Anyway I think it wont be a prob with SLI since actually you can adjust the position 360 degrees..
And I also not sure whether it can be used passively or not because I never try it, but IMO, if your ambient temp is low, and you got good airflow in your case, then it wont be a problem to run it passively.


That's pretty bad imo :( My "Ghetto Pipe" chipset cooler was 28C MAX. I'll see what this one can do a little later today. The 1900xtx should be up and running today and hopefully this little x2 will perform like I expect ;) Stay tuned........

From the looks of both heatsink we can already predict yours will run cooler :P
Here is 1PM and my room temp is 34C. :woot:

[s7e9h3n]

I'm curious to see what a 512K dual can do running hard, can't remember ever seeing anyone over 3.2Ghz running one in 3D.
I'm curious too, since I can't seem to get this fukkin mount right on the GPU. This xtx has caused nothing but problems for me since I got it :mad: I'll try again tonight. On another note, I installed windows with the new cpu with the evap loaded @ -81C:cool:

[Dynasty]

I'm curious too, since I can't seem to get this fukkin mount right on the GPU. This xtx has caused nothing but problems for me since I got it :mad: I'll try again tonight. On another note, I installed windows with the new cpu with the evap loaded @ -81C:cool:

Don't give up on that XTX just yet,
we want to see atleast 16.4K in 3D 05 Stephen. :toast:

[G H Z]

Got a new target for you Stephen, original Mouspot & chilly1 GPU container :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/canny/e39ff549.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/canny/DI-7.jpg

[loc.o]

GJ on the 50k :toast:

[s7e9h3n]

Got a new target for you Stephen, original Mouspot & chilly1 GPU container :)
Looks as if this thread's gonna make an abrupt stop right here.....This 1900xtx has caused me nothing but grief ever since I got it.....Let's review, shall we? :rolleyes: :

Got the xtx and tried to get it running with the Opty 154 with no luck. Result: WR s939 Opteron DEAD
In an attempt to boot the 154, I installed the cpu in my daily rig. Result: Fried memory IC on my SLI-D
Now, the XTX is artifacting in when booted so I installed my x850 in the mobo to see if the 1900 may be borked. Result: Most likely x1900xtx DEAD
Turns out that the mobo isn't detecting any pcie cards correctly. Result: Rev. AD0 Ultra-D DEAD
Moved the x850 to my Expert board only to find out that there was some sort of short caused by my bad Ultra-D which gave me a 3.3V reading on the VDDQ. Result: WR x850xtpe DEAD
Add to this the fact that I killed an 0512 FX57 just a couple weeks ago and I'd say I've cleared a few thousand dollars worth of HW in the last 2 weeks (not to mention that a couple of those items are irreplaceable). This is gonna be quite a hole to dig myself out of.....:(

[nn_step]

Looks as if this thread's gonna make an abrupt stop right here.....This 1900xtx has caused me nothing but grief ever since I got it.....Let's review, shall we? :rolleyes: :

Got the xtx and tried to get it running with the Opty 154 with no luck. Result: WR s939 Opteron DEAD
In an attempt to boot the 154, I installed the cpu in my daily rig. Result: Fried memory IC on my SLI-D
Now, the XTX is artifacting in when booted so I installed my x850 in the mobo to see if the 1900 may be borked. Result: Most likely x1900xtx DEAD
Turns out that the mobo isn't detecting any pcie cards correctly. Result: Rev. AD0 Ultra-D DEAD
Moved the x850 to my Expert board only to find out that there was some sort of short caused by my bad Ultra-D which gave me a 3.3V reading on the VDDQ. Result: WR x850xtpe DEAD
Add to this the fact that I killed an 0512 FX57 just a couple weeks ago and I'd say I've cleared a few thousand dollars worth of HW in the last 2 weeks (not to mention that a couple of those items are irreplaceable). This is gonna be quite a hole to dig myself out of.....:(


It sounds like you got a cursed card.. Did you forget the usually cleansing rituals? :eek:

[eva2000]

ouch maybe those dead parts were accumulation of abuse building up to that fatal moment ??

but yeah seems like bad luck there.. maybe task a break from aiming for WRs ? :)

[G H Z]

Sorry to hear that Stephen, thats alot of nice hardware to loose :(

I think anyone shooting for the top has experienced this kind of thing, I know I've lost some good stuff myself and most hardcore guys can tell you similar stories. You'll have better luck next time I'm sure :)

[n00b 0f l337]

Sounds too chain like. Broken parts dont always kill live parts....
I'd retest everything if I were you.
Then begin rma process's.

[dinos22]

bad luck mate

[c.freak]

s7e9h3n that's some real bad luck. I just hope my card won't break. I oc'ed my card a litle bit tonight, but it's 6 on the morning here in sweden so my eyes is kinda sleepy. Next up, some benchmarking.

http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cpuatitool2wf.jpg

[s7e9h3n]

Well, at least I'm starting to finally figure out this cpu :p: :

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7049/11x3008jj.jpg

[TheMeatFrog]

Looks as if this thread's gonna make an abrupt stop right here.....This 1900xtx has caused me nothing but grief ever since I got it.....Let's review, shall we? :rolleyes: :

Got the xtx and tried to get it running with the Opty 154 with no luck. Result: WR s939 Opteron DEAD
In an attempt to boot the 154, I installed the cpu in my daily rig. Result: Fried memory IC on my SLI-D
Now, the XTX is artifacting in when booted so I installed my x850 in the mobo to see if the 1900 may be borked. Result: Most likely x1900xtx DEAD
Turns out that the mobo isn't detecting any pcie cards correctly. Result: Rev. AD0 Ultra-D DEAD
Moved the x850 to my Expert board only to find out that there was some sort of short caused by my bad Ultra-D which gave me a 3.3V reading on the VDDQ. Result: WR x850xtpe DEAD
Add to this the fact that I killed an 0512 FX57 just a couple weeks ago and I'd say I've cleared a few thousand dollars worth of HW in the last 2 weeks (not to mention that a couple of those items are irreplaceable). This is gonna be quite a hole to dig myself out of.....:(
Horrible luck man, really sorry to hear about this. :( You'll bounce back with something amazing though, no doubt. ;)