just got my x1900xtx, does this look right?

[Daveb2012]

does this look right for ATI tool. 500/600 and 16 pipes? Im assuming its 2d settings so I don't know how to change 3d settings I ran 3dmark05 at stock settings and got 10800 not sure if thats below average either. Also when I click the "mem" button in Atitool I get the following error message:
"changing memory timings is not supported with this chipset"???

because its at 500/600 I dont even know where to begin with over clocking, thanks in advance for any replys.

also I did disable that one ATI service not sure if that makes any difference.

[SIOUX]

looks pretty normal:)

if you just started with this card, i will suggest you to oc in 3d mode to begin with. enable the 2 services again, and oc 3d clocks.

[TinTin]

does this look right for ATI tool. 500/600 and 16 pipes? Im assuming its 2d settings so I don't know how to change 3d settings I ran 3dmark05 at stock settings and got 10800 not sure if thats below average either. Also when I click the "mem" button in Atitool I get the following error message:
"changing memory timings is not supported with this chipset"???

because its at 500/600 I dont even know where to begin with over clocking, thanks in advance for any replys.

also I did disable that one ATI service not sure if that makes any difference.

1) Install ATItools, after running, it will ask you disable....click YES,
2) Go to the CCC overdrive option, DO NOT click "preserve ATI Overdrive..."
3) Check and Disable the ATI Smart and ATI Hotkey Poller in the windows services
4) Reboot
5) Check the CCC overdrive, it should be disabled.
6) Open ATItools, it is now in 2D clocks and VOLTAGEs

How to Overclock:
1) open ATItools
2) go to voltage option
3) You have the one showing 1.125V, Set it to 1.400V or 1.375, up to you (1.375V is capable of running 700/800 for my card. ;) )
4) You can overclock now :D

You can also save a 3D profile when running 3D but make sure that you have to save the voltage to that profile
PS: don't use the scan artifacts function, it seems they are not working with X1900 series.

This is my method with ATItools 0.25BETA13 :)

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/7681/3d05131053tm.jpg

[Daveb2012]

thanks for the in depth reply. I will try some of that, here is how I am doing so far with 3dmarks, I love this card the IQ is so much better then a single 7800gt. so far I haven't had a scenerio where I could see the lack of frame's moving. tested out COD2 BF2 and 3dmark and every thing runs so smooth with such clear IQ.

anyway heres where im at right now, I will mess with it more tommorow I just installed xp on this machine and I need to finished getting all my stuff back on here.

[neoman]

Very nice score :) You got 3k boost from Overclocking not bad

[perkam]

Dave, what do you get in 3d05 with your cpu at stock ?

Perkam

[Dumo]

Nice score Dave:toast:

I just put her on water and got this...

http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/1259/screenshot0023fy.jpg

[Dynasty]

750 using 1.425 vgpu, 891 mem. using 2.086 Vddc/Vddq, VDDCI 1.486

750/891-13591, single core @ 2940mhz.

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9478/13591xtx9vc.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[Daveb2012]

Dave, what do you get in 3d05 with your cpu at stock ?

Perkam

perk,
here is cpu/gpu at stock speeds. I still ran 3d05 though with AA off, set to performance, and with real time affinity:

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/10/stockxtx4zt.jpg

Cpu helps about 1000pts for me according to this with just an 800Mhz increment, im sure that gets much more narrorow past a certain point though such as 2.5Ghz. I don't think going from 3Ghz->3.5Ghz would give me this dramatic of a jump, cpu was probably just the bottle neck at 2.2?

[ugp]

The CPUs are a huge bottleneck with these high end cards these days...

such big performance increase when a CPU is overclocked...

[perkam]

Ummm...sorry if this is asking a tad much...but could you do that with cpu at stock and card at rated speeds of 650/725...

Thx :) I jus wanna see an XTX score that isn't so heavily dependent on the cpu :)

Great card you have there btw :D

Perkam

[Daveb2012]

Ummm...sorry if this is asking a tad much...but could you do that with cpu at stock and card at rated speeds of 650/725...

Thx :) I jus wanna see an XTX score that isn't so heavily dependent on the cpu :)

Great card you have there btw :D

Perkam

Ok I didn't know if thats what you meant the first time like you asked or if you wanted completely stock. Give me a few I will post results soon.

[Daveb2012]

Ok this is odd. almost the same score at 650/725 with cpu at stock..

still this is just more proof that this is heavily cpu dependent

[perkam]

Indeed it is...and thx for doing all the tests...a service to those who do not own the fastest card around at the moment :bows:

How are your ocing ventures going ? Find a 24/7 speed yet ? It'll do 700/800 quite easily, thats for sure...and thats 24/7 stable too...but see if you can get a 14k 24/7 setting :p: that'd be the bomb :slobber:

Perkam

[menlatin]

\
...Thx :) I jus wanna see an XTX score that isn't so heavily dependent on the cpu :)...

Perkam

I dont think this is going to happen in 3dm. All i care about is fear, so i'll test in that when i get my card. There you may see less cpu dependency.

[TinTin]

;) ......

One thing also I can say very confidently is that this card does not like sudden changes in big increments for the Mhz on core/mem. most of my crashes were due to huge jumps on core/mem by typing in desired Mhz. I have learned I have to slowly scroll to the mhz I want while keep applying changes to avoid that.
I did the same last night, it is now still going up, I tried 785core, it is okay, and then I jump to 800, failed in the second game :D ;)
http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/3553/3d0670102yr.jpg

[Daveb2012]

almost to 14k. not tonight though, I give up with this score. 1.495v max on the core stock volts on mem @ 750/850. Im not sure what else I have to do to get to gain a few more points. maybe just a little tweaking of the OS or changing some settings in CC could get me their. any one have any idea's or tips? any settings I can change to gain some extra points?

Also im on Air so im affraid to go past 1.5v although I only do benching at night with my computer in the window about 50*f outside here right now.

[cantankerous]

weird, installing beta 13 twice for me never gave me the option to have atitool disable the 2 services. I had to do it manually myself. Anyone else have this? As well, beta 13 for me doesn't have that new logo on the main page. Still has the old one.

You guys are lucky. Getting 700/800 at 1.375v. I can do this through CCC no problem but overclocking with atitool with non touched timings I am lucky to get 680/751 at 1.375v. Card gets pretty damn hot too. If I go too high I get a hard lock and sometimes a blue screen requiring a reboot in firefly test of 05. Other than that I run scan for artifacts for quite a while, sometimes up to a couple hours and if my card is clocked too high it will eventually crash to a solid black screen causing me to force a reboot of the system. I think people get false hopes that because you can bench at higher speeds the card is stable. Trying runing scan for artifacts for a couple hours and see what happens. I don't think heat is an issue as it never gets higher than late 70' on the temp.

[TinTin]

weird, installing beta 13 twice for me never gave me the option to have atitool disable the 2 services. I had to do it manually myself. Anyone else have this? As well, beta 13 for me doesn't have that new logo on the main page. Still has the old one.

You guys are lucky. Getting 700/800 at 1.375v. I can do this through CCC no problem but overclocking with atitool with non touched timings I am lucky to get 680/751 at 1.375v. Card gets pretty damn hot too. If I go too high I get a hard lock and sometimes a blue screen requiring a reboot in firefly test of 05. Other than that I run scan for artifacts for quite a while, sometimes up to a couple hours and if my card is clocked too high it will eventually crash to a solid black screen causing me to force a reboot of the system. I think people get false hopes that because you can bench at higher speeds the card is stable. Trying runing scan for artifacts for a couple hours and see what happens. I don't think heat is an issue as it never gets higher than late 70' on the temp.

1) Did you check the CCC overdrive is disabled? And did you disable the AtiSmart and ATi HOTKEY Poller series yourself?
2) Don't use the artifacts scan, it does not work with X1900, www.techpowerup.com forum does explain this issue.
3) Heat is sure a problem for X1900series, I drop it down over 50deg.C by switching to Watercooling! Before that, I only can get highest 725core with the original HSF. (full load 8Xdeg.C) With Zalman copper HSF, even worse, 715 max. :D

[cantankerous]

Hi there, yes CCC is disabled. I get a message about it not being properly setup, come back later. I did infact manually disable the two services. The card is fine using Atitool just not getting as high as some of you guys.

You are damn straight about the heat issue. I easily get into the 80c mark after awhile. As much as the new Accelero is bashed on here new reviews are popping up as the cooler is now available. Temps were not much lower than the stock however they still beat it by a couple degrees even with the stock fan at 100% which does cool well but very loud. The Accelero does slightly better however dead silent. I only run my fan in the 80% range to maintain sub 80'c temps and its LOUD. I would love to get an Accelero even if my temps maintained at 75c but silent. I would be happy.

[Dynasty]

13834 is an nice score with clks of 751/850,

are you using 6.2B's ? :)

[perkam]

Indeed...14k should come easy with some more sauce on the core :p

Perkam

[matt samoohi]

Ok i wanaa get an x1900xt for my system and flash to xtx how much life would i loose if i put the volts on my "xtx" to maybe 1.4vlts?

[Daveb2012]

13834 is an nice score with clks of 751/850,

are you using 6.2B's ? :)
just the 6.2's off ATI's website. are 6.2b's suppose to work any better?


Ok i wanaa get an x1900xt for my system and flash to xtx how much life would i loose if i put the volts on my "xtx" to maybe 1.4vlts?

some say the xtx is around 1.4v stock in 3d so Im not sure if it will harm the card too much as long as you have good cooling.

As much as the new Accelero is bashed on here new reviews are popping up as the cooler is now available. Temps were not much lower than the stock however they still beat it by a couple degrees even with the stock fan at 100% which does cool well but very loud. The Accelero does slightly better however dead silent. I only run my fan in the 80% range to maintain sub 80'c temps and its LOUD. I would love to get an Accelero even if my temps maintained at 75c but silent. I would be happy.

I don't think any card that covers all the mem chips can do well from this point on. Its not the core thats the problem its the memory over heating. and a mertal plate will just not do the trick. with a plate all the heat dissipate on the same thing, spreading across over other mem chips. with some thing like copper sinks each chip has its own hs, and theirs much more space for air flow with a 2nd fan.

[matt samoohi]

xt and xtx are the same thing right except for a bios flash nothing dif rite?
i mean no pixel pipes or shaders.

[Dynasty]

xt and xtx are the same thing right except for a bios flash nothing dif rite?
i mean no pixel pipes or shaders.


same specs, just different bios and default clkd spds.

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/6249/x1900specchart8jp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)