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nachthymnen

02-17-2006, 02:17 AM

I have make a fast test with my FX-60 in 3dmark'01.
I run with Windows XP(800 point lost from win 2k).
I think it's not bad this CPU.
Unfortunately I have run a bad CL...In the penultimate run(pc freeze during Nature)I have obtain a good 556FPS in CL...
I have bench @ a non limit frequency for my CPU(around 3.4GHz under Vapo)

Ok this is the score:

43158
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/4347/431580in.th.jpg (http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=431580in.jpg)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8900609

I can pass easy the 500FPS in Nature.
Other UP this evening and sorry for my bad english.

Daveb2012

02-17-2006, 02:39 AM

nachthymnen

02-17-2006, 02:52 AM

it would almost seem worth buying a cheap 40gig HD set up optimized with win2k for benching with 3dmark. I don't want to bother throwing another partition duel booting with 2k. 800pts is quite a bit, what about your pt difference in 05?

I have a second 80GB Maxtor Diamond only for the 3d marks...now I have try XP 64 bit but tomorrow I re-install 2000+SP4 and DX8.1 and I will try for 44k.

s7e9h3n

02-17-2006, 02:54 AM

How much does it help to have a FULL disk dedicated to win2k + 3dMark as opposed to running off a partition?

El Snorro

02-17-2006, 02:59 AM

How much does it help to have a FULL disk dedicated to win2k + 3dMark as opposed to running off a partition?

Nothing I think, partition is just as good as a normal disk imo?

nachthymnen

02-17-2006, 03:03 AM

How much does it help to have a FULL disk dedicated to win2k + 3dMark as opposed to running off a partition?

In my day-use HD I have 3 partition but I have also a secon HD with 2 partitions only for 3d'01 and 3d'05 e '03...

wwwww

02-17-2006, 03:10 AM

Just a suggestion, not sure if it'll help on AMD setups (given the lack of an FSB system) - but when running Nature, dedicate one thread to 3dmark. Prob won't make a difference given the nature of the AMD bus. But on my Presler it gives 25-100 extra frames on Nature (depending on my FSB).

Newbie_User

02-17-2006, 03:31 AM

Impressive speeds.....

i wouldn't suspect the difference between Win 2K and Xp would be worth 800 pts in '01...

Besides, with Hard drives, it all depends on your partition table :

If P-ATA drives, plug one into the first bank (master) and connect your DVD Drive....
Your other disk(s) should go fine with the second bank (as master and slave)

compared to S-ATA, P-ATA disks are not mainly slower (also we encounter many 2 Mo cache disks 7200 rpm's....60-80 Gb..1-2 years old.....)
But if using two disk drives (one with the install and other with dedicated partitions....you should chech out that both of your disk are not connected on the same bank...as master and slave...)
Instead S-ATA, P-ATA bus can't multiple multiple access on same "bank"..
So your first device would have the priority, then the "slave" will be authorized to emit or receive....

weither with S-ATA, all drives have permanent access, whatever there is one with the system and the other with dunno......

The more useful is to create a dedicated swap partition, where you could set your exchange file (.386).......and set a fix number such as 1204-1024 limit....

I don't see how a dedicated partition for each 3dmark will help..execpt if you have a Raptor.....and then again loading time would improve but overall score.......dunno:confused:
better save the raptor for the system or get another 80 Go drive and link then in RAID 0......

there is a risk..of course..to loose data....but if you check usually S.M.A.R.T. data..you should be warned soon enough......

In the same way.....improving the cooling of your hard rives may slightly improve your disk perfs......as the cooler the disk runs...the greater it will hold and the less overheating will the heads have to stand....
This should spare the disk mecanism......

But the best is I-RAm (DDR "hard"-disk) and I-RAM 2 (DDR-2) from Gigabyte.....
You'll be stuck with S-ATA II bandwidth...but it still is a great improvement.....

anyway....best luck on the quest for 44k....:toast:

nachthymnen

02-17-2006, 03:49 AM

I have only tell that with win 2k the 44k it will be not difficult to obtain with a dual core FX...
I don't have make a compare with my ex FX-57...for sure considering the only 208 BUS FX-60 it's not bad also in the '01...tomorrow I will try win 2k...

nachthymnen

02-17-2006, 03:57 AM

nachthymnen

02-17-2006, 03:30 PM

Haha...installed win 2k but lost many points with dualcore:D

Just a little UP with XP+SP2 day-use:

43438

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8901239

s7e9h3n

02-17-2006, 03:47 PM

2k01 is still the land of the single core ;)

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/634/comp9hs.jpg

nachthymnen

02-17-2006, 03:56 PM

2k01 is still the land of the single core ;)

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/634/comp9hs.jpg

Yes,I know...but I only want to see what can do a dual core in this bench...
Only 209 of FSB...Do you know why under win 2k the dual core lost many FPS from XP?:confused:

s7e9h3n

02-17-2006, 04:03 PM

I'm not sure...maybe the driver?

nachthymnen

02-17-2006, 04:07 PM

I'm not sure...maybe the driver?

...OK,I need to find a good FX-57 to put under cascade...but it's difficult to find 1 that go under -60°:(
I would like to take 45k...
In 2 weeks I hope to put Dice on the GTX and try some good runs...:rolleyes:

EnJoY

02-17-2006, 05:52 PM

How much does it help to have a FULL disk dedicated to win2k + 3dMark as opposed to running off a partition?

I'm actually quite surprised a faster harddrive doesn't make a difference in score when it comes to 3dmark. I see WindWithMe using a 5400rpm drive for his testing...and I just can't help but think that a nice 10,000rpm raptor would get a higher score. Atleast, it should.

ingentingmendeg

02-17-2006, 06:00 PM

I'm actually quite surprised a faster harddrive doesn't make a difference in score when it comes to 3dmark. I see WindWithMe using a 5400rpm drive for his testing...and I just can't help but think that a nice 10,000rpm raptor would get a higher score. Atleast, it should.
why should a harddrive come into play when its a 3dbenchmark :rolleyes:. you sure you arnt thinking about pcmark?;)

Gautam

02-17-2006, 06:04 PM

2k01 is still the land of the single core ;)
Try and tell that to Macci (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1274274&postcount=99)... :p: The only reason single cores are still "ruling" 01 (they actually aren't, that's the fastest AMD '01 score in existence) is because no one's been bothered to actually push em hard yet. "Only" 3.4GHz, cards on straight water. If you notice, clock for clock, its slaughtering a Dothan. IMHO, once someone puts together the perfect combo, we could possibly see 939 taking the lead again, very briefly of course considering all the new stuff down the bend.

There's no reason a hard drive would effect a 3DMark score, it never actually uses the hard drive during the tests.

s7e9h3n

02-17-2006, 06:11 PM

Try and tell that to Macci (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1274274&postcount=99)... :p: The only reason single cores are still "ruling" 01 (they actually aren't, that's the fastest AMD '01 score in existence) is because no one's been bothered to actually push em hard yet. "Only" 3.4GHz, cards on straight water. If you notice, clock for clock, its slaughtering a Dothan. IMHO, once someone puts together the perfect combo, we could possibly see 939 taking the lead again, very briefly of course considering all the new stuff down the bend.

There's no reason a hard drive would effect a 3DMark score, it never actually uses the hard drive during the tests.
Gimme his cards and we'll see if the FX60 is faster :D That nature score is friggin nutz...
EDIT: Oh and give me his mobo while you're at it since I'll need that to run xfire.....:p

Gautam

02-17-2006, 06:16 PM

Cards, plural, which incur a huge loss with single core. Though I think even if he pulled one out and cooled a single X1900XTX to the caliber that your card is cooled at, his will still be quicker, though by smaller margin. Around an even 50k in both cases. Besides the point, you're running over 300MHz faster than him. If some of the heavy hitters who can bench past 3.5 GHz on FX60s give em a whirl in 01, there won't be any single core AMD's that'll be able to stand a chance against them. Yeah, hint, hint you guys. :D

nachthymnen

02-18-2006, 04:52 AM

First run in 3d'03:

24987 GT1 not bad:)
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3272/249873dq.th.jpg (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=249873dq.jpg)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4629333

nachthymnen

02-18-2006, 05:43 AM

25k is done very easy...only increase the bus from 208 to 222:)

25202 (555FPS in GT1)
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2599/252020tk.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=252020tk.jpg)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4629445

nachthymnen

02-19-2006, 12:23 AM

Go UP in '01:

43853
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/6797/438531ho.th.jpg (http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=438531ho.jpg)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8902882

nachthymnen

02-19-2006, 01:45 AM

Ok...easy broken the 44.5k:)
Win xp+sp2 and DX 9.c(desktop 1280x1024 16bit)

44550
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/9950/445502bw.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=445502bw.jpg)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8902940

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6093/orbpage22um.th.jpg (http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=orbpage22um.jpg)

Delly

02-19-2006, 06:08 AM

nachthymnen

02-19-2006, 07:57 AM

compliments natch, few more than 200pt from my old record with SLi GTX256...:clap:

today I have taken 46k :) ...sin for the low fsb that limits a lot :(
<a href="http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=460693d01sli5126pv.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5127/460693d01sli5126pv.th.jpg" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>

TKS Delly...CB is killing me...@ 224x15 it's impossible to have the stability needed for finish the bench:(
CB @ -16...
I have good start with XP lite edition but freeze before to start Nature:mad:

CarLow=610.2FPS
Dragotic Low=836.8FPS

46k it's possible with liquidcooled GTX for me...

nachthymnen

02-19-2006, 10:17 AM

Ok,I'm waiting for the good CL run for going over 45k:)

For now:

44859
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/8282/448595ud.th.jpg (http://img388.imageshack.us/my.php?image=448595ud.jpg)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8903465

nachthymnen

02-20-2006, 06:36 AM

45k single vga also for me:)
Vga liquidcooled
Bad GT1 but good Dragotic:D

45072
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4600/450723dx.th.jpg (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=450723dx.jpg)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8904281

2nd page in the ORB FM with VGA NVIDIA:)
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/1795/orbpage23ka.th.jpg (http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=orbpage23ka.jpg)