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vapb400
02-16-2006, 03:27 PM
Guess we need SATA burners to actually be produced.
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=554791
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/attachment.php?aid=351030&noupdate=yes
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/attachment.php?aid=351031&noupdate=yes

Does anybody know whether or not this will make it to Conroe boards (965x I guess)?
dicecca112
02-16-2006, 04:11 PM
but isn't it up the the people that make the boards what ports they actually use on the board. So technically couldn't they have IDE ports still on the boards. Frankly this is a dumb move on Intel's part 99% of people don't even know what a sata port is
Starscream
02-16-2006, 05:34 PM
there are SATA burners i think from Plextor.

but indeed stupid move alot fo people have perfectly fine IDE HDs and Drives.

would b nice to make a poll simply to check how many people here would buy a board without IDe atm.
n00b 0f l337
02-16-2006, 06:06 PM
Going to have to buy some of those converters I geuss.
craig588
02-16-2006, 06:45 PM
SATA drives don't get detected without drivers. Untill they make a controller that works without drivers (Even if it's slower without drivers, that should be expected, once they're installed it should perform like you'd expect) I don't support them.
onewingedangel
02-17-2006, 03:23 AM
there will still be ide support from add in chips - so we may even see increased ide performance from new boards - but I guess it makes sense for intel to try and force a transition. After all this likely means that dell will start selling their computers with sata optical drives, as they will want to use the cheaper motherboards - ie. the ones without added logic chips - and this means that the optical drive manufacturers will have to make sata optical drives if they do not want to lose a large chunk of change. This forces the optical drive manufacturers to migrate - something that they should have done long ago, much like hard drive manufacturers have.
eddieate
02-17-2006, 03:41 AM
SATA drives don't get detected without drivers. Untill they make a controller that works without drivers (Even if it's slower without drivers, that should be expected, once they're installed it should perform like you'd expect) I don't support them.

I've got an SATA optical drive from plextor and it didnt need any drivers, just plug and play on my Ultra-D.
/Ed
nn_step
02-17-2006, 06:19 AM
there are SATA burners i think from Plextor.

but indeed stupid move alot fo people have perfectly fine IDE HDs and Drives.

would b nice to make a poll simply to check how many people here would buy a board without IDe atm.
Honestly I need a min of 1 IDE slot.. that is it.. SCSI and SATA are where most of my drives are at.. but I love my IDE DVD RW drive and I am not going to leave it beyond.. Not yet...
Sentential
02-17-2006, 06:21 AM
Meh time to buy a controller card I spose
[XC] leviathan18
02-17-2006, 08:19 AM
time to stick to amd......
rozzyroz
02-17-2006, 08:41 AM
doesnt seem like the big deal everyone is making it out to be. i run an ide drive on my wifes sata port with no problems (via adapter).

i think it would be nice to have everything unified and faster.... the faster the better imho. maybe some of the new tech. needs the faster interface.
[XC] leviathan18
02-17-2006, 09:09 AM
plexto dvd with sata 120$ other brands dvd with pata 30$ 40$
onewingedangel
02-17-2006, 09:20 AM
there shouldn't be such a price difference, as I explained above, this should force the price of sata optical drives down to reasonable levels.
nn_step
02-17-2006, 10:13 AM
there shouldn't be such a price difference, as I explained above, this should force the price of sata optical drives down to reasonable levels.
Notice the key word Should.. There is absolutely no reason SATA is better than IDE for DVD/CD drives..:fact: aside from smaller cables
Cobalt
02-17-2006, 10:24 AM
I'd support a move to all SATA. Better connectors would be nice as I always think my SATA cables are goint ot fall out but apart from that they take up less space on the board and if we can get plug and play support without the need for drivers then overall theres not much to fault. I hate legacy with a passion (damn floppy drives especially) although it would never tempt me to move to Intel.
dicecca112
02-17-2006, 11:58 AM
Notice the key word Should.. There is absolutely no reason SATA is better than IDE for DVD/CD drives.. aside from smaller cables exactly all the benchmarks I have seen show that they are neck and neck. But the negatives mount, with bad support with drivers, and hardware. If they are gonna get rid of something get rid of floppies, bios flashing can be done via cds
nn_step
02-17-2006, 12:04 PM
Agreed plus some boards support USB flashing of the Bios and even Windows flashing of the bios...
bobov
02-17-2006, 01:38 PM
Notice the key word Should.. There is absolutely no reason SATA is better than IDE for DVD/CD drives..:fact: aside from smaller cables

Yep, agree. Most DVD/CD Burner still using UDMA-2.
Revv23
02-20-2006, 01:46 PM
sata adapters work really easily and they are cheap.

im all for getting rid of fat ide cables, i hope they drop floppy support too.
lawrywild
02-20-2006, 01:57 PM
sata adapters work really easily and they are cheap.

im all for getting rid of fat ide cables, i hope they drop floppy support too.

mine cost me £10 :stick:

but yeh, ide cables suck..
Cobalt
02-20-2006, 02:11 PM
That would be my dream. Get rid of floppies and bring in CD/USB flashing properly! I might even switch to Intel if Conroe (that is the desktop one right?) is up to scratch. Despite my love of all things AMD with ATi chipsets, Intel do have far better support in that area despite the constant revisions that seem to crop up for each new processor.