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ronbo54
02-13-2006, 02:24 PM
For those who don't visit the D2OL forums here is the latest from Adam in case you missed it:

"Greetings everyone,

My first visit to TRI (February 3 – 6) is now in the books, and I wanted to take a few minutes here to update the community on the activities from this weekend. We were able to accomplish a great deal of knowledge transfer from Charles and Wolfgang to myself, which will be very important as we move forward. Of more immediate concern to the science and community of the project, we established a strong set of goals for the coming year that will help to revitalize the project and give us a firm foundation for future improvements.

First and foremost, this project is about finding drugs that can help fight diseases. You all have done a lot of work over the last few years in crunching the candidates and targets that we have given you, and your efforts have whittled the field down to several top conformers. While we need to keep working on the current libraries and targets in order to find all of the promising conformers that we can, we realize that a large percentage of the solution space has already been visited. It is for this reason that our top priority for this quarter is the release of a new target and new candidate libraries. To that end, we have identified a promising Avian Flu target and two large libraries of commercially-available drug candidates. I am currently working on formatting the associated files for use with our software.

While the science of drug discovery is the central focus of the project, contributor statistics provide tangible, up-to-date metrics for users to gauge their activity and the contributions they have made to the search for drug treatments. To make tracking our progress a better, more meaningful experience for you (and us!), we are planning to update the statistics processing code to improve both accuracy and currency. I am working with Sengent to make sure we have access to a stable, up-to-date code base before I begin my development work.

Finally, this transition period in the project’s life cycle provides a good opportunity to step back and look at where we’ve been and where we would like to go in the future. Fairly soon, I will be releasing Vision and Values statements for the project, which will help guide our actions moving forward. These will be living documents, and I encourage you to participate in shaping the project by giving me your thoughts on these topics. Then, later in the year, we plan to publish a review article detailing D2OL’s accomplishments and our place in the historical and current Distributed Computing landscape for computational chemistry. This will serve as the perfect celebratory capstone on the first phase of the project as we turn the page and move forward.

As you can see, we had a busy weekend, and there is a lot of work to do in the coming year. I’m confident, though, that we’ll be able to make important improvements to the project and continue to do good science, and I look forward to working with the talented people at TRI and all of you in our dedicated user communities. Please don’t hesitate to contact me with any questions or concerns.

Thank you,
Adam"

mad mikee
02-20-2006, 04:53 PM
For the updates :D

I don't see anywhere though where they explicitly talk about HARDWARE Stability :shrug: :hm:

ronbo54
02-20-2006, 08:36 PM
The new NAS is up. Additional backup power also. Think there was some other stuff, but I'd have to go back and look through the forums for it.

shmaa
02-20-2006, 08:42 PM
Sounds good... but I just don't think I could ever go back to this project. :(

bullet2urbrain
02-20-2006, 08:50 PM
Sounds good... but I just don't think I could ever go back to this project. :(


too true..

Acrazar
02-20-2006, 11:01 PM
Sounds good... but I just don't think I could ever go back to this project. :(

R@H all the way!

Movieman
02-20-2006, 11:17 PM
Sounds good... but I just don't think I could ever go back to this project. :(
What I heard in the admins writings and the sarcasm about the contributers "Anyone thats interested in stats isn't concerned about the science"(paraphrased from the D2OL forum in Jan after stats loss) turned my stomach. I said it before and I'll say it again: It's a partnership. They run the lab, we contribute the computing power and YES, we do have our little fun and games with the competitions.
That's a damn cheap price for them to pay for what they are getting in return. The fact that they didn't care about the stats loss in January said to me that they did not care about the people supplying them with all their computing power. My personal feeling is that I'd have liked to have seen the entire DC membership drop them like a hot potato. As long as people continue to run D2OL while the current leaders are there with the mindset they have you say to them that it is all right to not care about the stats.
I don't know about you but there's an old saying that sums up D2OL perfectly:
"Fool me once, shame on you..Fool me twice..shame on me"
I'm not giving them a chance to do it twice!

ronbo54
02-21-2006, 11:35 AM
Other equipment - A second generator is being installed for the lab equipment so the current one will be dedicated to the servers, new UPS batteries, and a second new NAS has been ordered to replace the failing Structures NAS (total ~$10K for the 2 NAS)

As for stats, Adam has said he will look into getting the old ones fixed. Couldn't do it until he had the meeting at Rothberg about a week ago. Top priority was to get new candidates and libraries up. I'm sure he is still getting used to the program (he's only part time). Very worst case is a Hall of Fame showing XS as the winner of the first phase of the project. Adam, Charles and Wolfgang are the only people employed by the project and I don't think the comments on stats came from them (could be wrong, but don't have time to go back and look now).

Anyway - crunch what you want. :toast:
Personally I'm getting tired of babysitting Rosetta. Should be doing about 30K/day but only at 16-18K. :(
Looking at other projects

Movieman
02-21-2006, 12:06 PM
Other equipment - A second generator is being installed for the lab equipment so the current one will be dedicated to the servers, new UPS batteries, and a second new NAS has been ordered to replace the failing Structures NAS (total ~$10K for the 2 NAS)

As for stats, Adam has said he will look into getting the old ones fixed. Couldn't do it until he had the meeting at Rothberg about a week ago. Top priority was to get new candidates and libraries up. I'm sure he is still getting used to the program (he's only part time). Very worst case is a Hall of Fame showing XS as the winner of the first phase of the project. Adam, Charles and Wolfgang are the only people employed by the project and I don't think the comments on stats came from them (could be wrong, but don't have time to go back and look now).

Anyway - crunch what you want. :toast:
Personally I'm getting tired of babysitting Rosetta. Should be doing about 30K/day but only at 16-18K. :(
Looking at other projects
Hi Ron: I just tried to get into the D2Ol forum to look up those comments I mentioned and must be a new cookie, can't get in, error of a popup was blocked. Thinking back, it may well have not been the admins but a mod on the D2Ol forum. To be honest, I do not remember 100%. I think it was the day after I posted in Jan on D2OL that I heard they weren't doing anything on the stats and thats what set off my Irish temper. ( Yea, I'm human!:D )
AS to Rosetta, I agree..Frustrating since they made the change to ver 4.82, that combined with the hit I'm taking because my machines are Intel and not AMD really hurts! I just had a dotham go 32 hours straight and error out 4 work units in a row at 7hr48m2s on each one..32 hours down the toilet.
888 potential points!It was running perfect with ver 4.81 so I understand your frustration on this!

ronbo54
02-21-2006, 12:50 PM
Actually, my problems started before 4.82. Had some boxes down for a remodel (about 9K/day worth), put them and others back up, and actually went down in stats. Have to keep checking for bad Wu's and doesn't want to upload the good ones :confused: