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LarsK
02-12-2006, 10:36 AM
Guys, I'm having trouble booting my Mach II GT cooled 920 in my Asus P5WD2-E Premium. I don't know whether it's a motherboard or cpu issue, but I never had anything like this happen on my P5WD2-Premium with any of my 6xx cpu's.

Now the motherboard/cpu combination boots just fine with the retail cooler, every time.

At no time however, will the combination start up as it's supposed to when the Mach II GT cooling device starts. Also I cannot boot the system up at any time while the Mach II GT is cooling down, regardless of temp. The funny thing is though, that after the Mach II GT has shut down again, I can boot the system up by shorting the power legs on the motherboard, which then also starts up the Mach II GT, and I can boot just fine. And I've done this quite a few times with temps as low as -51°C on the display, but mostly I need to get below -46 on the display. So I would think this points in the direction of the cpu, since the internal cpu temp could be higher if it has just been restartet, even if the display shows a lower temp, than if I'm doing a real "cold boot". Now if this was the only problem, it wouldn't really be a major problem, but annoying none the less.

The really odd stuff happens when I start to overclock. I get completely erratic and spontaneus reboots. Especially above 300 Mhz fsb. And I'm not lacking in PSU power by any means. I have a PC Power andCooling 850W psu, and I also tried with a Seasonic S12 600W, it's the same.

For instance I can run pcmark05 without issues @ up to at least 340 Mhz fsb, run any 3dmark, and even run memtest86 error free for hours at any given clock speed up to at least 4766 Mhz (340 Mhz fsb), however superpi 1M will fail within 5 seconds.... that is, mostly.... other times I can run superpi 32M along with dual prime etc. and it'll be fine for hours. Other times the system just crashes, randomly.

Now except the fact that I can't find any drivers for the marvel hd-controller that'll work, everything is working fine on the motherboard, have both an X'Fi soundcard and a tv-tuner in there.

Anybody else with any experience in this area? I've read about mikeguava having a cold boot issue with his 955xe cpu/p5wd2-p combo as well back in december of last year, but I couldn't see whether it was found to be the motherboard or the cpu's fault.

Any insight would be appreciated guys. Cpu/mobo combo is great, but I'll probably find something else for my Mach II GT system, and put this in another case if these problems persist.

crotale
02-12-2006, 11:16 AM
Now except the fact that I can't find any drivers for the marvel hd-controller that'll work, everything is working fine on the motherboard, have both an X'Fi soundcard and a tv-tuner in there.

Anybody else with any experience in this area? I've read about mikeguava having a cold boot issue with his 955xe cpu/p5wd2-p combo as well back in december of last year, but I couldn't see whether it was found to be the motherboard or the cpu's fault.

Any insight would be appreciated guys. Cpu/mobo combo is great, but I'll probably find something else for my Mach II GT system, and put this in another case if these problems persist.

I haven't got the Marvell drivers to work either :(

I've had no problems with cold on the 955XE down to around -145C, but that is on the P5WD2 Premium board, I haven't tried the "-E" board with serious cooling yet.

Do you still have the Premium board at hand? Can you try the 955XE in that board with the MachII?

LarsK
02-12-2006, 11:23 AM
No, the problem is I sold my P5WD2-P and I'm not really too keen on buying one again, just to see if it'll work with my 9xx series cpu.

Also, I know a guy with a D940 that works just fine in the P5WD2-P under his Vapochill LS. However I read that mikeguava had coldbug like problems booting his 955xe also in a P5WD2-P. So I'm not sure whether it's the cpu or the motherboard really, but let me know how you fare on the P5WD2-E.

Unfortunaetely my one week leave is over and it's back to 50+ hour work weeks for another 3-4 months, so I won't have too much time or energy to mess about with bugged hw for a while again.

5-Clicks
02-12-2006, 05:50 PM
Is it possible for Intel chips to have the cold bug? The AMD's cold bug is due to the ondie mem controller....where as the Intel's are on-mobo :stick:

FUGGER
02-12-2006, 07:27 PM
You need to maunally install the marvell raid drivers from the drivers/RAID/DOS directory on the floppy. They will install if you right click the PCI device and install driver and dont let windows search.

choose "do not search, I will choose the driver to install" and it will install. otherwise it will not install.

If you setup for internal SATA you can use the single black SATA port for I-RAM disk like I do.

I have both controllers working.

I think some chips have a problem booting past -60c or so but can operate far beyond that temp once booted.

LarsK
02-13-2006, 12:55 AM
Hmm, ok will try the suggested method for the marvel drivers.

However I'm puzzled as to why the motherboard/cpu refuses to boot with the Mach II GT. I've had 25+ different mobo/cpu's in there and never had a single problem.

Thickbrit
02-13-2006, 04:09 AM
I have a similar problem to you LarsK,which i never had on any cpu before,i have a 940,p5wd2-p and gt,it will never boot first time.I have to wait for the restart delay and boot immediately afterwards,if i leave it too long ,it still won't boot again.I have tried reflashing bios,reseating cpu,etc,nothing works.This,coupled with the restart issue over 240fsb (which the gt hates),is making me seriously consider the gigabyte over the asus for my 975 mobo.

IluvIntel
02-13-2006, 04:54 AM
I have a similar problem to you LarsK,which i never had on any cpu before,i have a 940,p5wd2-p and gt,it will never boot first time.I have to wait for the restart delay and boot immediately afterwards,if i leave it too long ,it still won't boot again.I have tried reflashing bios,reseating cpu,etc,nothing works.This,coupled with the restart issue over 240fsb (which the gt hates),is making me seriously consider the gigabyte over the asus for my 975 mobo.

Please do get the Gigabyte 975X combined with 940, love to see those results ! :)

LarsK
02-13-2006, 10:49 AM
I have a similar problem to you LarsK,which i never had on any cpu before,i have a 940,p5wd2-p and gt,it will never boot first time.I have to wait for the restart delay and boot immediately afterwards,if i leave it too long ,it still won't boot again.I have tried reflashing bios,reseating cpu,etc,nothing works.This,coupled with the restart issue over 240fsb (which the gt hates),is making me seriously consider the gigabyte over the asus for my 975 mobo.

Both my P5WD2-P and P5WD2-E are fine rebooting @ a little over 266 Mhz fsb, so I'm running my 920 @ a meager 266 Mhz fsb now. I've done 3dmarks on it up to 350 Mhz fsb (4.9 Ghz), but I'm hoping a newer bios will make it stable at a higher fsb.

I'm also suspecting there might be a problem between the motherboard and the Mach II GT. I can start up my motherboard at any time and pretty much any evaporator temp, as long as the Mach II GT is not connected to the same PSU as the motherboard. I'm considering running the Mach II on a seperate PSU for en extensive period, just to test it out. Plus I really don't like the restarts it has to make when the Asus motherboard shuts down and starts itself back up again. A really annoying "feature" Asus.....

If only Gigabyte wouldn't have placed those 2 PCI slots so stupidly on their 975x motherboard, I'd have picked that up already. I need both slots, and with a x1900xtx card and a dual slot cooler, there's no way I can do that....

I'm SO hoping Abit puts out a good socket 975X motherboard. My track record with Abit has been way better than with Asus....

LarsK
02-13-2006, 12:32 PM
You need to maunally install the marvell raid drivers from the drivers/RAID/DOS directory on the floppy. They will install if you right click the PCI device and install driver and dont let windows search.

choose "do not search, I will choose the driver to install" and it will install. otherwise it will not install.

If you setup for internal SATA you can use the single black SATA port for I-RAM disk like I do.

I have both controllers working.

I think some chips have a problem booting past -60c or so but can operate far beyond that temp once booted.

Thanks a lot for the tip on the marvel controller FUGGER, it now works with my old IDE drive on it. It's a crap Maxtor drive but I have all my music and pics on there.... :p: