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dinos22
02-06-2006, 11:11 PM
Hi Guys

I'm preparing for some phase change benchmarking and want to make sure i know some important details before i start.

First of all i'd appreciate any links to complete component insulation guides, dielectric grease application......insulating of components such as motherboards and CPUs......whatever else

my CPU will he IHS-less CPU with IHS sitting on top as the evap has trouble mounting......will i need to apply liquid electric tape around the CPU core......i'm thinking of knocking up a couple of rupper pads to put in between CPU core PCB and IHS to make sure it sit properly.....unless someone knows a decent way to re-attach IHS

the mobo will have some uncleaned dielectric grease left over so i bought one of these sprays.....can someone have a lookat this thing and confirm this thing is able to clean that stuff and do i need to use something to brush it off.....also how do you people clean CPU socket holes........
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/7892/spray17fe.th.jpg (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spray17fe.jpg)
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/1805/spray24tn.th.jpg (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spray24tn.jpg)



i am going to apply this solution on the mobo...liquid electrical tape (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=76152&highlight=liquid+electrical+tape) babyelf used with his dice runs a while back.....how much of a spread do i need around the socket and do i cover capacitors as well.....tell me how you guys do it...........now i've seen this product used before but something caught my eye there.....it give operating temp range of -30F to +255F.......i know that this unit of mine can and will go to as low as -50C :confused: is it safe to rely on this

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6663/can14th.th.jpg (http://img51.imageshack.us/my.php?image=can14th.jpg)
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7687/can21lz.th.jpg (http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=can21lz.jpg)


i'll leave it at this.....as i can't remember the other questions at the moment

C-BuZz
02-06-2006, 11:32 PM
i'd use the dielectric grease around the mobo socket area if I where you :)

The mobo is already lubed up so no need to worry about it.. i'd put an extra layer of grease on / around the cpu socket area & in the actual pin sockets, to be safe. dont thin k you can use that electrical tape in the cpu pin socket area.

Also put a nice layer of grease under the mobo. At least an inch either side of the cpu socket.

More the merrier I say :toast:

Then all you need is some neoprene to cover aroudn the cpu socket area then your just about set to go..

C-BuZz

dinos22
02-06-2006, 11:40 PM
dont thin k you can use that electrical tape in the cpu pin socket area.C-BuZzheheh yeah never planned on doing that

so you reckon i don't need to clean it first and then apply again?

C-BuZz
02-06-2006, 11:44 PM
heheh yeah never planned on doing that

so you reckon i don't need to clean it first and then apply again?

heh ya never know :p:

No need to reapply it, the grease on there is fine.. I'd top it up a bit if I where you, just for some peace of mind.. If you want to clean it just use your electrical cleaner. Should come off pretty easily.

C-BuZz

Waus-mod
02-07-2006, 02:26 AM
I use Liquid Electrical tape all the time.. Beside that i first use nail polish, and then liquid electrical tape (2 times) then i know its all sealed :)

ent
02-07-2006, 04:31 AM
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=230&s=1

Its a guide about insulation by Shamino.

dinos22
02-08-2006, 05:35 AM
thanks guys..........looks like Shamy pretty much covered it all

so i guess clear nail polish is good to use first.......looks like i'll just use my liquid electrical tape instead of seal string he mentions

I use Liquid Electrical tape all the time.. Beside that i first use nail polish, and then liquid electrical tape (2 times) then i know its all sealed :)


The clear nail varnish that women (and some men) use for their manicure can be used as a protective coating for your hardware.ROFL.....those nails in the photo look kinda long....maybe he used some himself




here is something amusing......................this is a reply i got from a fellow OCAU member...........:eek:
I've worked with the same brand of the tape before. I believed I purchased it from Jaycar.. Not sure though, been a while

Anyways, It's a great product. Easy to apply and does the job perfectly! But Becareful and MAKE sure non of it gets inside or under the Socket. I suggest you get a set of cheap artist brushes from your local cheap outlet [Go-Lo] and start you way slowly.

Now for removing Ex- Grease and all of the nasties.. I personally Prefer to give my mobo's / hardware baths followed by a Metho Rinse. Then they go to the oven on VERY low heat setting. I usually set it for 24C.. Let it sit there then for a few hours. Keep checking every 30mts or so [Trust me.. you don't want the smell of silicon in your oven]

I've done this numerous times over the past and saved/brough to back tons of hardware from it. Just make sure it's fully dry before applying voltage.

Anyways here are some pics of my P4C when I washed it after some action; for refrence

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/aquatron/wash/th_DSC00309.jpg (http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/aquatron/wash/DSC00309.jpg)http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/aquatron/wash/th_DSC00303.jpg (http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/aquatron/wash/DSC00303.jpg)http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/aquatron/wash/th_DSC00292.jpg (http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/aquatron/wash/DSC00292.jpg)

Hope that helps :D

Icy
02-08-2006, 05:46 AM
now thats taking watercooling to a new level. rofl. is that safe for the mobo? just seems a little nuts to me heh

yngndrw
02-08-2006, 08:28 AM
Hardware is perfectly safe in water as long as it is off and dried before use. I soaked my mobile in water once after I spilt beer on it and it works fine now. :)

Levish
02-08-2006, 08:48 AM
Isn't the evap head usually -50 (with a SS)?

Wouldn't the processor will probably be higher than that, and the surrounding board even higher?