View Full Version : whats the highest voltage you should be able to run on OCZ's new pc
Daveb2012
02-05-2006, 11:00 PM
Im thinking of getting OCZ's new phase change product thats $250.00 I have heard a lot of critisizm so far about it even though its not released im wondering what's the highest voltage I should be able to run on it 24/7. I was guessing maybe 1.65? is that too high? Im running 1.58v on air right now so if I cannot get much higher then that the $250.00 doesn't seem worth it.
Bergo
02-05-2006, 11:04 PM
what are you tlaking about? your CPU's core voltage I"m guessing? there's really no way of us to answer that without more information, maybe if you figured out the actual heatload someone could give you a hand?
Hell-Fire
02-05-2006, 11:18 PM
Unless something has changed since the last time I read that thread, the unit will cost closer to $350 bud.
As for what Vcore you can run, that all depends on the units capacity and ability to hold load temps.
osiris999
02-05-2006, 11:48 PM
yea you will have to wait and see
Daveb2012
02-06-2006, 01:36 AM
what are you tlaking about? your CPU's core voltage I"m guessing? there's really no way of us to answer that without more information, maybe if you figured out the actual heatload someone could give you a hand?
Dram voltage, what do you think? obviously the CPU. why be a smart :banana: when you know exactly what I mean, it has a single pipe to cool with so where else would you put it.
And 2nd how am I going to figure out the "actual heat load" when its NOT even out yet. thanks for the help.
Daveb2012
02-06-2006, 01:37 AM
Unless something has changed since the last time I read that thread, the unit will cost closer to $350 bud.
As for what Vcore you can run, that all depends on the units capacity and ability to hold load temps.
Its rumored to be $299 now at release and OCZ admits it will go down in the low 200 range if it sells well.
wdrzal
02-06-2006, 01:44 AM
Dram voltage, what do you think? obviously the CPU. why be a smart :banana: when you know exactly what I mean, it has a single pipe to cool with so where else would you put it.
And 2nd how am I going to figure out the "actual heat load" when its NOT even out yet. thanks for the help.
Read the thread and you will know as much as the rest of us;) I don't think any final specs were released yet.
chew*
02-06-2006, 06:01 AM
Im basing my guess on the actual specs it has atm........Which puts it in the range of a mach 1 or maybe a modded mach 1....... as for running 1.58 vcore on air..........not to bright if you ask me. Rule of thumb is .15 over stock on air .20 over stock on great water and .30 over stock on phase....... so given its an opty at 1.35 max volts on phase would be 1.65 if you planned on a 24/7 setup and expect to keep chip longer than a month......Secondly your wasting your money using an opty on phase..........but thats your choice. as for temps you can probably expect -5 to -0 loaded with a dualcore at 1.65 vcore.....512kb l2. Expect 1mb l2 to run hotter and coldbug.......thats the results i get out of a modded mach 1.
cdelong
02-06-2006, 06:34 AM
lots of people are doing well with certain Opty on phase?
chew*
02-06-2006, 06:44 AM
lots of people are doing well with certain Opty on phase?
they are using workarounds........acpi multi processor hack on single core cpu's, higher voltage, just a higher heatload to keep temps up etc etc. Very rare a opty can do -50 on phase......some coldbug at +10.......and other just don't use high htt.....which means it's coldbugged.......
cdelong
02-06-2006, 06:52 AM
guess I didn't know about the workarounds. I thought just some steppings did not do well under phase.
pocketbikeuk
02-06-2006, 06:54 AM
they are using workarounds........acpi multi processor hack on single core cpu's, higher voltage, just a higher heatload to keep temps up etc etc. Very rare a opty can do -50 on phase......some coldbug at +10.......and other just don't use high htt.....which means it's coldbugged.......
the newer optys are cold bugged had a cab2e it didnt work bellow 0 now have cabye and it loves it 3400mhz stable under phase. so dont count out all optys just look for the right stepping
chew*
02-06-2006, 07:41 AM
the newer optys are cold bugged had a cab2e it didnt work bellow 0 now have cabye and it loves it 3400mhz stable under phase. so dont count out all optys just look for the right stepping
I'ts been proven that caybe bugs to.....you may have just gotten lucky or not cold enough....We don't want to mislead people..... here's my stats to date.http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=87232
Note all the bugged cpu's are preety much opty steppings....and although caybe seems to do well there are not enough results to confirm guaranteed no cold bug.....I also personally have seen people with cold bugged cabne but they never posted........
Bergo
02-06-2006, 10:52 AM
what's the highest voltage I should be able to run on it 24/7
how am I going to figure out the "actual heat load" when its NOT even out yet. thanks for the help.
ya kinda pointed out the flaw in your own question there...
afireinside
02-06-2006, 12:40 PM
I can assure you you will never see negative temps on a high clocked dual core on this OCZ unit. On a single core possibly.
as for running 1.58 vcore on air..........not to bright if you ask me.
Personal preference. Some people are afraid it will damage the CPU. Others don't. I've been running 1.65v through my dual core on air now for 3 months under constant load. It still works fine. Only time will tell.
Bergo
02-06-2006, 03:33 PM
I beleive core tmep isn't supposed to exceed 65 degrees with the 939 opterons (or at least thats the case with my 165) I wouldn't suggest increasing the voltage that much on air, unless you have one hell of a heatsink.
hawtrawkr
02-08-2006, 06:15 AM
they are using workarounds........acpi multi processor hack on single core cpu's, higher voltage, just a higher heatload to keep temps up etc etc. Very rare a opty can do -50 on phase......some coldbug at +10.......and other just don't use high htt.....which means it's coldbugged.......
just how cold do you think the die temps are going to be on a oc'd opteron with the ocz unit? aside from the cab2e i thought alot of opterons and .90nm a64s in general were usually good down to about -15 to -20c die temps before showing signs of bugging out
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