P4GPL-X + 7800GT coming on tuesday, hints/tips/mods etc with this board please!

[lawrywild]

Hey, my p4c800 and x800 blew up so I got a p4gpl-x and 7800gt coming my way on tuesday, just wondering what the boards like, the options, mods, tips etc etc

hows droop btw?

oh, and has anyone attempted a flash to P4GD1?

Cheers

btw even if you have P4GD1, they're very similar so tips from that would be very useful also :)

[Icy]

nice im very happy for you :D out of intrest where did you order your p4gd1 from? as im trying to find a good supply of them atm Thx

[lawrywild]

happy? I just blew up £250 lol... :rolleyes:

I'm not getting a P4GD1 lol..

P4GPL-X are available from www.techfever.co.uk (my favourite) and www.yoyotech.co.uk , also eBay and a couple of other places but more expensive..

[cirthix]

do the hippro5 vcca mod, increase your pcie to the max stable to allow for higher fsb clocks.

use a pci, pcie, or ide mass storage device

[kiwi]

I had both boards and I have to say they are almost identical. You will need to do vdimm and chipset mods. PGgpl-x gives a bit higher chipset voltage without mods and it lacks 1 memory divider in bios and raid options. Other than that I did not see a difference. Performance is pretty good.

good luck

:toast:

[lawrywild]

do the hippro5 vcca mod, increase your pcie to the max stable to allow for higher fsb clocks.

use a pci, pcie, or ide mass storage device

done VCCA already, had booted 270 on my p4c800 but thats impossible on p4gpl-x/p4gd1 with 15x multi :rolleyes:

erm, can't really afford to use excess pci slots to run my maxtor because of vf-700 and my audigy 1..

I had both boards and I have to say they are almost identical. You will need to do vdimm and chipset mods. PGgpl-x gives a bit higher chipset voltage without mods and it lacks 1 memory divider in bios and raid options. Other than that I did not see a difference. Performance is pretty good.

good luck

:toast:

thanks for the info, I'm probably gonna lay off the bh-5 because no extra dimm slot for booster, and 2.9v is best for my ballistix so might not do vdimm mod. Vchipset maybe but not straight away, can't risk anything yet :rolleyes:

just out of interest whats that mem divider? and can I run my ballistix at higher than fsb speed.. (say I boot around 170-190 x15, can i run ballistix 4:5 or even 3:4 ??)

Cheers bro :toast:

[kiwi]

I don't really remember which divider it was since I was always running 1:1 :D

[DaWaN]

I have a P4GPL-X here, flashed to a P4GD1 bios. But flashing to P4GD1 doens't add you anything usefull. But having only 2 dimms slots and 1 IDE channel sucks

[lawrywild]

I have a P4GPL-X here, flashed to a P4GD1 bios. But flashing to P4GD1 doens't add you anything usefull. But having only 2 dimms slots and 1 IDE channel sucks

oooo sounds good, basically because if multi change is added to p4gd1 and not p4gpl-x, I can flash it :)

yup, thats true, I will have to buy an ide->sata adapter for my dvd+rw so that I can leave my 2 backup IDE harddrives plugged into the 1 channel. The 2 dimm slots I can deal with, I'll just probably lay off the bh-5 or something. Still though, dothan isn't as fun anymore... I ordered p4gpl-x coz I needed something quick but when I have enough cash, I will move to a dual core with SLI (another 7800gt) setup because they are much better for a 24/7 rig...

[lawrywild]

I also wonder if it's possible to solder another ide channel onto the pcb because if the bios is flashed to p4gd1 then it may function.

I will try to find the real differences between 915PL and 915P and see whether ide channels have anything to do with it..

edit:

915P:

For Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor

800/533 MHz FSB

Both dual-channel DDR2 and DDR

PCI Express* x16 and x1

Serial ATA 1.5Gbps

Intel® Matrix Storage Technology (RAID 0, 1)



915PL:

For Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor

800/533 MHz FSB

Dual channel DDR

PCI Express* x1

Serial ATA 1.5Gbps

Intel® Matrix Storage Technology (RAID 0, 1)





pci-e *1 only??

then surely p4gpl-x is not based on 915PL meaning that the p4gd1s features should be available..

[malkekoen]

lawrywild, how do you feel about the board now?

Can you adjust the multiplier?

The reason I'm asking is, that I want PCI-e (and make a killer rig). I have a 770, and runs fsb 200 with divider 14 = 2.8 ghz. Is the P4GPL-X able to do that without modding?

[lawrywild]

multi is not changeable in bios :(

I only just got evrything up and running, seems nice, havn't benched, played games or anything yet, but it's looking real nice.

had to put my 7000alcu on coz the 7700cu wouldn't fit in my case :(

I took some pics so will ipload some soon :D

[malkekoen]

Do you by any chance know what divider a 770 runs with as standard? If i'm really lucky, its 14 :).

Fsb 200 in 1:1 ????

[lawrywild]

nah, it runs 16x ;)


anyway, pressed coolbits "detect optimal frequencies" and looks like I have a nice clocker here :D (also I have a +40 delta on top of these clocks :D )

http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/9578/4984uv.png



I'll put my vf700-cu on, should reach >520/1.2 :D




EDIT: another update, performance is good, even with low fsb :)

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2606/41854qx.png

[malkekoen]

Nice results :D....

Too bad about the multiplier :(.... I actually hoped that the P4GPL-X would be the one to get (it is rather cheap here in Denmark, approx. 80$). FSB has to be close to 200 to get the maximum out of the ram/cpu.

[kiwi]

Usually you boot 167+ on this board and then lower multi to get fsb > 250 in windows :)




coz the 7700cu wouldn't fit in my case :(


i had 7700 mounted but with slight modification of mounting clip

[lawrywild]

i had 7700 mounted but with slight modification of mounting

err yeh, I know how to mount it, I had it on my p4c for months now so don't think you understood, it's too big as in my psu is right above and doesnt fit in...



edit: err vcore doesn't change if I increase it in the bios lol... I'll reflash but seems a bit weird

edit2: err just flashed again and same thing, vcore doesn't change :(

[16floz470ml]

I just pulled my p4gd1 so I can compare it to my p4gpl-x. For me the p4gpl-x overclocks better than the p4gd1. Unmodded I can get 250fsb with p4gd1 and 260 with p4gpl-x. If I were to mod one board or the other I'm sure I could go higher. Lawry I would be interested to know how much you can get out of your ballistix on your board. I just got the 2x1gb kit and they run exactly the same as my 2x512 kit.
Yeah Lawry the voltage core problem you describe is the same for me. If I reboot it shows the correct value.

[malkekoen]

So.......... still not possible to change vcore? How much vcore is standard?

[cirthix]

So.......... still not possible to change vcore? How much vcore is standard?

vcore up to 1.7v in bios and it overvolts by about .06v

[malkekoen]

Should be enough! But does the vcore changes in bios apply in real volt settings?

And....... I'm really frustrated here! I've got the 770 with 16xdivider. But does that mean, that I have to boot 167+ and change divider/fsb when i get into windows (using systool etc)???

With a 16xdivider, I won't get far in rising fsb in the bios, right?

[lawrywild]

Should be enough! But does the vcore changes in bios apply in real volt settings?

And....... I'm really frustrated here! I've got the 770 with 16xdivider. But does that mean, that I have to boot 167+ and change divider/fsb when i get into windows (using systool etc)???

With a 16xdivider, I won't get far in rising fsb in the bios, right?

even with 175 fsb and 2-2-2-4-2 I'm still getting good performance for 24/7 mate, but yeh, if I'm going to do some proper benching I will lower multi using EIST and up the fsb much higher (probably to 250 2.5-2-2-5 or 270 2.5-3-3-5 ;) )

@16floz470ml: so it does actually change? can't remem whther I tried a reboot, where's the vcore read point on this mobo so I can whip out my DMMs :)


found the DMM read point for vcore, seems that asus probe reads more or less spot on :D

[kiwi]

vcore up to 1.7v in bios and it overvolts by about .06v

lol mine overvolted by at least 0.08 dmm

[lawrywild]

I can't get vcore to change at all :(

might try flashing to p4gd1, is there any settings in the bios that may be stopping it from changing vcore...??

[kiwi]

Did you measure vcore using DMM like in this picture?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41301&stc=1&d=1134906001

Try reseting cmos, loading setup defaults and then change vcore by small steps.

[lawrywild]

Did you measure vcore using DMM like in this picture?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41301&stc=1&d=1134906001

Try reseting cmos, loading setup defaults and then change vcore by small steps.

yup, measured vcore with DMM

loading setup defaults? you just mean loading windows with an unmodified bios?

cheers guys, wanna get this sorted so I can bench @ 2.9 and get >9k in 05 :)

[kiwi]

No, I mean load bios setup defaults. I don't really understand. You are changing vcore in bios but it remains the same? What does it show in bios after you save, exit and enter bios again? Old vcore value? What does voltage monitor in bios show?

[lawrywild]

No, I mean load bios setup defaults. I don't really understand. You are changing vcore in bios but it remains the same? What does it show in bios after you save, exit and enter bios again? Old vcore value? What does voltage monitor in bios show?

the setting shows it set as 1.4675v (which is what i have tried to set) but reads 1.34v which is also what DMM reads

[velzatis]

I can't get vcore to change at all :(

might try flashing to p4gd1, is there any settings in the bios that may be stopping it from changing vcore...??
I have the same f*cking problem. Belive me, it doesn`t work. I know a guy who flashed p4gd1 bios to the p4gpl-x, but the vcore still doesn`t change. My friend has a p4gplx and he flashed on 0205 bios, and he can change vcore. I did the same - nothing happens. :(

[lawrywild]

I have the same f*cking problem. Belive me, it doesn`t work. I know a guy who flashed p4gd1 bios to the p4gpl-x, but the vcore still doesn`t change. My friend has a p4gplx and he flashed on 0205 bios, and he can change vcore. I did the same - nothing happens. :(

ugh, wtf is up with this, f**king annoying isnt it mate :slapass:

I may try 0205, but this is just getting on my nerves..

[malkekoen]

Please post as soon as you get some results. I'm having a p4gpl-x on the hand - can't decide whether to get it or not... If vcore can't change....... :(

[lawrywild]

omg velzatis, thanks for the info!!!! I flashed to 0205 and its working!!!!!! :D

i set vcore/vdimm etc all to auto before flash btw

edit: pretty sure it is anyway, bios and probe still say 1.34v but my temps have increased a lot so I'm pretty sure it has, I need to measure with DMM but it's too late so i will tomorrow :)

[velzatis]

Damn you lucky guy :D

But i increased the voltage in bios to 1,7, then rebooted and entered to the bios and then bios was showing vcore 1,428. The default was 1,328 or smth. After that computer didn`t want to boot anymore, even if all the clocks were default and only vcore was higher. Weird...

[malkekoen]

lawry, how well does it clock now? How high can you get it?

[lawrywild]

ok.. actually it didnt work, jus the old bios made temps increase.. :(

grrrr!!!!!!!

malkekoen, I am at 2660, 177x15 atm on stock volts :)

I'll sort this out tomorrow as im on school holidays after tomorrow and will have more time to work stuff out..

[velzatis]

ok.. actually it didnt work, jus the old bios made temps increase.. :(

grrrr!!!!!!!

malkekoen, I am at 2660, 177x15 atm on stock volts :)

I'll sort this out tomorrow as im on school holidays after tomorrow and will have more time to work stuff out..
i put vcore to 1,7V but bios shows 1,428v. Actually the voltage is higher, cause i got more mhz from my cpu now, but why the hell is it showing this voltage like that?:confused:

[malkekoen]

Its just sooo superbad about the volt issue... If I can't clock my 770 further than ~2600 on that board - it ain't worth. Really looking forward to hear more about your voltage project ;)....

[lawrywild]

i put vcore to 1,7V but bios shows 1,428v. Actually the voltage is higher, cause i got more mhz from my cpu now, but why the hell is it showing this voltage like that?:confused:

I don't know :( I think we need asus to make a fix for this as it seems to be with quite a few people..

btw, can explain the not booting isue again after 1.7v. it doesn't boot until u set it back to 1.3v??

[malkekoen]

velzatis, how high do you clock at this point?

[velzatis]

velzatis, how high do you clock at this point?hmm, not very high actually. Right now the voltage supposed to be 1,42V (according to the CPU-Z and BIOS). I just did prime95@2600mhz and it gave me an error after 12minutes of testing.

EDIT: can anyone tell me, where i can measure vcore on motherboard?

EDIT2: Ok, it`s now 2:14 AM, time to go to bed :P

[16floz470ml]

I can't get vcore to change at all :(

might try flashing to p4gd1, is there any settings in the bios that may be stopping it from changing vcore...??

I have noticed it reading wrong in the bios sometimes but I am always able to change it. I am using bios 0401. Like I said my problem is always resolved with a reboot.

[malkekoen]

lawry & velzatis: If youre planning on trying the 0401 bios, please post your experiences :)....

[velzatis]

lawry & velzatis: If youre planning on trying the 0401 bios, please post your experiences :)....
I tryed 0401 bios just now, nothing changes, but I still have that weird thing: if I raise my vcore up to 1,7V, then bios says, that it`is 1,42V. CPU-Z is showing same voltage.:confused:

[malkekoen]

Doesn't seem to good :(................

[snatchmonkey]

hmm, not very high actually. Right now the voltage supposed to be 1,42V (according to the CPU-Z and BIOS). I just did prime95@2600mhz and it gave me an error after 12minutes of testing.

EDIT: can anyone tell me, where i can measure vcore on motherboard?

EDIT2: Ok, it`s now 2:14 AM, time to go to bed :P

Correct me if i'm wrong, but you can normally measure the vcore off one of the chokes/coils near the cpu socket (try the leg furthest from the socket). Planning to get one of these boards soon myself, can't you just vcore mod it?

[lawrywild]

Correct me if i'm wrong, but you can normally measure the vcore off one of the chokes/coils near the cpu socket (try the leg furthest from the socket). Planning to get one of these boards soon myself, can't you just vcore mod it?

base of the leg closest to the socket ;)

[malkekoen]

Any news, guys???

[kiwi]

Have you tried 400 and 533 jumpers on the adapter?

Also when flashing bios this would be advised:

1. Load bios setup defaults
2. flash bios, restart
3. Load bios setup defaults
4. power off, unplug power cable from PSU
5. press power button a few times and then reset cmos
6. plug back your power cable (make sure CMOS jumper is set back otherwise you might kill board)
7. Enter bios and load setup defaults


If after this you can't cahnge vcore then I say either your board is faulty or adapter.

Try P4 cpu if you have it.

[lawrywild]

Have you tried 400 and 533 jumpers on the adapter?

Also when flashing bios this would be advised:

1. Load bios setup defaults
2. flash bios, restart
3. Load bios setup defaults
4. power off, unplug power cable from PSU
5. press power button a few times and then reset cmos
6. plug back your power cable (make sure CMOS jumper is set back otherwise you might kill board)
7. Enter bios and load setup defaults


If after this you can't cahnge vcore then I say either your board is faulty or adapter.

Try P4 cpu if you have it.

im using no jumpers because i have vcca mod

may try the stuff you said though

[lawrywild]

I set to 1.7v and I get exactly the same thing as you velzatis, we have exact same problem :S

atleast this gets me to around 2.8 :)

havn't tried rebooting yet, but running windows fine atm @ 185 fsb, gonna run some OCCT and try to push higher, still though, I would like to get this thing sorted out properly...

[velzatis]

I set to 1.7v and I get exactly the same thing as you velzatis, we have exact same problem :S

atleast this gets me to around 2.8 :)

lucky you, i got my 740 only 2,6ghz prime stable with inbox cooler and same voltage :mad:

[lawrywild]

ct-479 mods are a must, these gain me quite a bit even using using lower volts, think mines 24/7 stable at 2750 now (183x15) then you must upgrade to atleast a 7000b-alcu...

then you should be able to go >2700 with 1.4v ;)

[malkekoen]

Ok. So....... Vcore simply doesn't work (well - only up to 1,4 V) with the dothans. Shame one you, Asus, not to provide us with a decent dothan/pci-e board!

Anyone else with this board - please post your experiences!

[lawrywild]

it does for most I think, but doesn't for me and velzatis..

there must be something thats doing this..

velzatis have you got jumpers plugged in? could you try 400 and 533 jumpers please, coz I can't take the heatsink off atm to get to the jumpers..

[velzatis]

velzatis have you got jumpers plugged in? could you try 400 and 533 jumpers please, coz I can't take the heatsink off atm to get to the jumpers..I tryed - it didn`t even boot up, even after clearcmos.

[lawrywild]

I tryed - it didn`t even boot up, even after clearcmos.


:S

weird.. this is annoying, eh?

edit: O.o 1 min after your post, must have refreshed just as u submitted lol..)

[velzatis]

:S

weird.. this is annoying, eh?

edit: O.o 1 min after your post, must have refreshed just as u submitted lol..)
:) can anybody give me a guide for ASUS P4GPL-X core vmod?:confused:

[lawrywild]

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://forum.au-ja.de/viewtopic.php%3Fp%3D15532&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dp4gpl-x%2Bvcore%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG

has same problem..

here's vcore:

http://home.no.net/comerade/pc/p4gd1_vcore.jpg

[snatchmonkey]

:) can anybody give me a guide for ASUS P4GPL-X core vmod?:confused:

I was led to beleive that the p4gpl-x is has an almost identical board layout to the p4gd1 and that the same mods would apply to each. If this is true you should have more success looking for the pg4d1 mod as it's the more popular board.

Did you try the u-wire for 1.55v? Worked on my laptop :)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31255&stc=1

There's one for 1.6v aswell somewhere...

[lawrywild]

Yeh, I posted p4gd1 vcore mod just a minute ago

I may do uwire, gonna try p4gd1 bios and stuff now..

[kiwi]

Yes, ofcourse all mods work for both boards but I did not need vcore mod. Bios gives you 1.7V, so the actual vcore around 1.78V because of overvolting. You don't need more unless going for WR under LN2! 1.65-1.75 is more than enough on air/water. Chipset mod is more important although most p4gpl-x boards would easily do 260+ without mods. My P4gd1 seemed to do a bit lower without mods.

IMO, if you are still having these vcore changing problems, I'd RMA either board (or maybe adapter). Had no probz with modded adapter and original adapter.

[velzatis]

Did you try the u-wire for 1.55v? Worked on my laptop :)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31255&stc=1

There's one for 1.6v aswell somewhere...actually I tryed, but this mod is for laptops imo. My computer didn`t want to boot up with that wire mod.

Kivi, i know that 1,7V is more than enough for pm, but if i can`t give over 1,4v, then I have to do core vmod, to get more volts.

[lawrywild]

no1 wants to wait weeks without a comp to RMA a dam mobo, vcore mod is the way to go..

[kiwi]

well it depends, I can RMA in my local shop in 1-2 days :D

[16floz470ml]

So far I can get 270fsb with my p4gpl-x with no mods. :) I would post a screen shot but when I try it says the file is too large. Only 200mb allowed.

[lawrywild]

16floz470ml, I will try going to high FSB without mods too, I have 2.3v VCCA and could boot at 270 on my p4c800-e before so I'm thinking I should be able to get high 1:1 with my ballistix

[velzatis]

Damn, my dothan 740 died yesterday. I don`t know why? I were just editing a picture in photoshop when I suddenly smelled a weird smell. I unplugged the psu wire immediatly. Smell came from cpu cooler, i thouht, oh, only fan, but when i took off the fan, the heatsink was on the bottob a little bit brown and a very little piece has broken off from the core. It was dead. Voltages were default, cooler was inbox with AS5 paste. CPU clocks were default (1,73).


In a place where a piece came of from the cpu, in the same place on the heatsink was a brown mark.

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7251/p21202220ny.jpg


EDIT: now new dothan 740. I`ll test it tomorrow.

[lawrywild]

Damn, my dothan 740 died yesterday. I don`t know why? I were just editing a picture in photoshop when I suddenly smelled a weird smell. I unplugged the psu wire immediatly. Smell came from cpu cooler, i thouht, oh, only fan, but when i took off the fan, the heatsink was on the bottob a little bit brown and a very little piece has broken off from the core. It was dead. Voltages were default, cooler was inbox with AS5 paste. CPU clocks were default (1,73).


In a place where a piece came of from the cpu, in the same place on the heatsink was a brown mark.

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7251/p21202220ny.jpg


EDIT: now new dothan 740. I`ll test it tomorrow.

unlucky man, :( , mine better not do that... otherwise ASUS is getting a slap in the face..

[lawrywild]

I have a P4GPL-X here, flashed to a P4GD1 bios. But flashing to P4GD1 doens't add you anything usefull. But having only 2 dimms slots and 1 IDE channel sucks

hey, I tried flashing to p4gd1 using 1.16b (afudos) and I get some error :(

how did you manage to get it to flash??

[lawrywild]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY i did uwire mod and now have 1.55v :D , If I set bios @ 1.7v I can get about 1.6-1.65v :D

(all measured with DMM)

I'm happy now, running at 2855mhz and hoping to push higher :D

[lawrywild]

results man results!!!7800gt that is :D

hehe i score 36k and 9k (well, missed both thsoe milestones by only tens of marks) with only 2750mhz :cool:

if i can get in some cold air tomorrow I will go for 38k/9.5k :D

[lawrywild]

New results: :D

37k!!

http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/5138/370137rd.png

and can you believe this....? :D

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/1155/90009nf.png

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1805291


having probs uploading 37k score so...

anyway, will push higher tomoz, this with 24'C air :eek:

[malkekoen]

Nice :).... Still - would like to reach the Dothan skys without modding.....

[Jimbwlah]

Could you possible take a picture of the BIOS screen to show the overclocking options on the P4GPL-X please? I'm thinking of getting one to replace my P4C800E and go with a nice X1900XT :slobber:

Oh and what is the highest FSB you could boot at from bios before changing with clockgen?

Would love to see some Pi scores!

[lawrywild]

Could you possible take a picture of the BIOS screen to show the overclocking options on the P4GPL-X please? I'm thinking of getting one to replace my P4C800E and go with a nice X1900XT :slobber:

Oh and what is the highest FSB you could boot at from bios before changing with clockgen?

Would love to see some Pi scores!

OK i'll get some later for you along with some pi 1M and 03/06 :)

I'm booting at 188x15 for 24/7 (the board actualy overFSB's be 0.3, so in windows it's 188.3x15 = 2825, just did 12 hours of systool stability testing and few hours of quake 4 so it's stable I think :)

[Mr_X]

Hi, All
I've got a P4GPL-X and I can't get my vcore over 1.42V even if I sets it higher in bios ,when I start a program vcore goes down to 1.32V. When I chutdown the program vcore is up again at 1.42V. It's almost like some powersaving feature.??
It's doesn't matter if I use my 479 card or my P4 the vcore is going down anyway.
Have any of you seen this on your MB's?????? (vcore going down under stress)...

It looks similar to your problems..

I've got a P4 s478 at 3.2G thats been up at 4.1G when I used a abit MB at 1.43V I can't get this high up with this f***ing As__us MB.
;) I want to benchmark my new X1800XT top at atleast 4Ghz at my cpu.

:rolleyes: Why stop at 22% overclock when Y used to 33% :rolleyes:

Mr_X

[lawrywild]

Hi, All
I've got a P4GPL-X and I can't get my vcore over 1.42V even if I sets it higher in bios ,when I start a program vcore goes down to 1.32V. When I chutdown the program vcore is up again at 1.42V. It's almost like some powersaving feature.??
It's doesn't matter if I use my 479 card or my P4 the vcore is going down anyway.
Have any of you seen this on your MB's?????? (vcore going down under stress)...

It looks similar to your problems..

I've got a P4 s478 at 3.2G thats been up at 4.1G when I used a abit MB at 1.43V I can't get this high up with this f***ing As__us MB.
;) I want to benchmark my new X1800XT top at atleast 4Ghz at my cpu.

:rolleyes: Why stop at 22% overclock when Y used to 33% :rolleyes:

Mr_X

are you measuring with a DMM (digital multimeter) or through bios/asus probe?

always use a DMM..

[Mr_X]

Nop, only with speedfan
but I think that its right because the vcore -fsb are matching my earlier clocking. At a vcore 1.32-1.35 I come up to a fsb at 237-240 and to get up the fsb higer I must increase the vcore.
At a fsb at 253 my cpu needs at least 1.42V.
But I'l try to get time to measure it the right way.

You haven't seen this on your MB ?

Mr_X

[Jimbwlah]

OK i'll get some later for you along with some pi 1M and 03/06 :)


Cheers, I'm looking forward to seeing em!

[lawrywild]

Nop, only with speedfan
but I think that its right because the vcore -fsb are matching my earlier clocking. At a vcore 1.32-1.35 I come up to a fsb at 237-240 and to get up the fsb higer I must increase the vcore.
At a fsb at 253 my cpu needs at least 1.42V.
But I'l try to get time to measure it the right way.

You haven't seen this on your MB ?

Mr_X

nope, when i set 1.7v I got 1.41v when idle (measured using DMM) and under load dropped to 1.39v (measured with DMM)

[lawrywild]

http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/6563/263752ql.jpg

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43495&stc=1&d=1140030326

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43496&stc=1&d=1140030326

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43497&stc=1&d=1140030326

anyone know what that VID CMOS setting is and what it does?? :confused:

37203 - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8898858 ;)

just 1.8k off single card record (3.5ghz a64), with a tweaked 2001 and some much colder air around 14'C (was 21.4'C whilst running that) I should be able to take it.

I'm also 40 points off front page ORB (for 7800gt's), first on second page... soo close :(

[Jimbwlah]

Cheers for posting those, that board does look like a good substitute for the P4GD1, think I'm gonna get one and a X1900XT at the end of the month, I'm too impatient wait for Yonah!

Just to recap, what voltage mods did you do to your rig? 3.2KOhms on the CT479 only?

[lawrywild]

Cheers for posting those, that board does look like a good substitute for the P4GD1, think I'm gonna get one and a X1900XT at the end of the month, I'm too impatient wait for Yonah!

Just to recap, what voltage mods did you do to your rig? 3.2KOhms on the CT479 only?

I have all the hipro5 mods - a 5k Pot to adjust VCCA which can be seen here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1273633&postcount=31

on long wires so that I can adjust VERY easily. currently using 2.34v VCCA.

if you have the same vcore problem as me when you get the board, then you can either do vcore mod (same as p4gd1) or uwire mod to get 1.55v which is what I have done, took some time to get the wire in place but worked first time :)

[lawrywild]

I am almost certain now that the VID CMOS Setting has some kind of relations to the vcore problems I'm having, judging by the various stuff that have come up on google search.

I'll continue searching but could someone knowledgable with this stuff help me please :)

[malkekoen]

So far I've only heard of one person not having the vcore problem. Everyone not having the vcore issues, please post!

[lawrywild]

So far I've only heard of one person not having the vcore problem. Everyone not having the vcore issues, please post!

have you got a retail or OEM processor, ASUS told someone that this only happens with OEM processors and advised them to buy a retail one... yeh right as if I'm going to spend another £100 because ASUS won't bloody update the bios :stick:

[malkekoen]

Got a retail :(............

[lawrywild]

Got a retail :(............

why the sad face? that means vcore change will work...

[malkekoen]

Because i just got the mobo - and vcore is................ hate it!

[lawrywild]

vcore change not working on retail either??? have you actually tried, could you actually give some details other than dots, it's really not very useful.

what cpu is yours? i.e. 760/750 etc..?

[Quicksilverta]

Im very happy with my P4GPL-X here are some of my results

Running a 730 with the 984bridge wire mod, 533jumper @ 1.65v
OCZ Gold GX 2GB @ 2.9v
Zalman 7700Cu, think i need to reset temps kinda high
x1800xl stock clocks
RAID0 with two old 36 Raptors on a PCIe card

http://home.comcast.net/~quicksilverta/PI.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~quicksilverta/3dmark05.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~quicksilverta/3dmark05_1.JPG

[Jimbwlah]

Nice overclock there :toast:

984Bridge wire mod? Could you give some details on that please

[lawrywild]

lol if you call 37'C cpu high then.. err... mine idles at 47-50 according to asus probe on my 7700cu :stick:

[malkekoen]

vcore change not working on retail either??? have you actually tried, could you actually give some details other than dots, it's really not very useful.

what cpu is yours? i.e. 760/750 etc..?

Its a 770. And yes, I have tried - and tried several bios versions. It seems that the only way out of this is modding.

How do I mod the vcore to 1.5 V? 1.6 is too high for my stock cooler.

[Quicksilverta]

Nice overclock there :toast:

984Bridge wire mod? Could you give some details on that please

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=25031&stc=1&d=1108990580

The temp on there was at idle, at max load with 3 prime95's going it gets up to about 58. lawrywild what does your setup HDtach?

[TL1000S]

P4GPL-X shows about 10 degrees higher temp at full load.. same CPU/cooler compared with a P4P800 SE (or P4P800-E).
Why is VCore setting in Bios a problem for this board suddenly?
The board I had for a while overvolt'ed quite a bit..tested with both Pentium M or Celeron M (2 of each).
My Celeron M's (350 and 360) didn't respond to higher VCore at all.. they actually wouldn't boot if I set VCore any higher than 1.4.
Is this "VCore-problem" related to newer P4GPL-X boards or a specific (new) Bios-versjon? (I just ordered another P4GPL-X to use with a 740M I have as a spare...To long to wait for Yonah, Merom)... :)

[malkekoen]

TL1000S, what bios did you use?

[lawrywild]

P4GPL-X shows about 10 degrees higher temp at full load.. same CPU/cooler compared with a P4P800 SE (or P4P800-E).
Why is VCore setting in Bios a problem for this board suddenly?
The board I had for a while overvolt'ed quite a bit..tested with both Pentium M or Celeron M (2 of each).
My Celeron M's (350 and 360) didn't respond to higher VCore at all.. they actually wouldn't boot if I set VCore any higher than 1.4.
Is this "VCore-problem" related to newer P4GPL-X boards or a specific (new) Bios-versjon? (I just ordered another P4GPL-X to use with a 740M I have as a spare...To long to wait for Yonah, Merom)... :)

I don't know dude but it sure is a PITA, the wire mod is very useful though, as I can up to 1.65v if I set 1.7v in the bios.

Downloading HDTach now..

look below

that good? had quite a bit running in the background so..

[velzatis]

lawrywild, tell me, did the wire mod worked well with your p4gpl-x?

[Quicksilverta]

The wiremod is what got me to 2.7, before that i would only get up to about 2.6. It seemed like what ever i set vcore to in the bios it never got any higher. I'm not really happy with my harddrive setup, first i have a PCI raid controller and it would only do about 96 in HD tach. Now im using a PCIe 1x controller. With the same hard drives with the on board RAID0 on my IC7max3 it would do about 178 180. I've had setups set to 16k stripping. Also my x1800xl doesn't overclock well at all.

[velzatis]

Maybe OT, but may I use 2x256CH5 24/7 @ 3,3V?:confused:

[lawrywild]

lawrywild, tell me, did the wire mod worked well with your p4gpl-x?

yep, didnt you read my posts?


Maybe OT, but may I use 2x256CH5 24/7 @ 3,3V?

yes

[Uschi M.]

@ lawrywild

Does the S/N of your mobo start with 5*MM ?

[TL1000S]

TL1000S, what bios did you use?

0205.. and 0301 if I remember correctly..
Getting a new P4GPL-X from SHG.no tomorrow.. :)

[lawrywild]

@ lawrywild

Does the S/N of your mobo start with 5*MM ?

Yup

[Uschi M.]

Thx, thought so.

We've 4 mainboards with fixed vcore now starting S/N 5*MM now. 1 in UK and 3 in Germany.

[lawrywild]

Thx, thought so.

We've 4 mainboards with fixed vcore now starting S/N 5*MM now. 1 in UK and 3 in Germany.


hmm, have you asked anyone with working vcore what theirs starts with.

kiwi and others get over here now :p:

[Uschi M.]

I will do that.

But it's hard to find somebody with vcore working :eek:

What you mean is vcore at startup requested by CPU?

--edit--
Another user reports with his brand new P4GPL-X:

P-M 730: vcore remains at [AUTO] and no choice
P-M 750: vcore adjustable, but without any effect. So vcore is fixed (~1.31 V under Windows).

Both processors had working and adjustable vcore on his old (and dead) P4GPL-X.

[lawrywild]

I will do that.

But it's hard to find somebody with vcore working :eek:

What you mean is vcore at startup requested by CPU?

--edit--
Another user reports with his brand new P4GPL-X:

P-M 730: vcore remains at [AUTO] and no choice
P-M 750: vcore adjustable, but without any effect. So vcore is fixed (~1.31 V under Windows).

Both processors had working and adjustable vcore on his old (and dead) P4GPL-X.

What you mean is vcore at startup requested by CPU?

hmm? you asking me?


hmm strange.. I can also say that evrything used to work on my p4c800-e..

[Uschi M.]

And the next one coming along with same vcore problem (2 new ones today).

I've opened a thread in a german forum. I hope that a lot of users talk about our problem there. May we discuss here, too? I will report, if you are interested.

[lawrywild]

And the next one coming along with same vcore problem (2 new ones today).

I've opened a thread in a german forum. I hope that a lot of users talk about our problem there. May we discuss here, too? I will report, if you are interested.

kool, problem is i don't speak german.. :D

[yotomeczek]

I will do that.

But it's hard to find somebody with vcore working :eek:

What you mean is vcore at startup requested by CPU?

--edit--
Another user reports with his brand new P4GPL-X:

P-M 730: vcore remains at [AUTO] and no choice
P-M 750: vcore adjustable, but without any effect. So vcore is fixed (~1.31 V under Windows).

Both processors had working and adjustable vcore on his old (and dead) P4GPL-X.


strange I have P4GPL-X andno problem wuith Vcore setting ...
I tried both M750 and M730 ...
maybe wrong bios ??

[Uschi M.]

kool, problem is i don't speak german.. :D
hehe
I'll do the translator
:fact:

@ yotomeczek

Please, what are the two first numbers of S/N?

[lawrywild]

hehe
I'll do the translator
:fact:

@ yotomeczek

Please, what are the two first numbers of S/N?

hehe ok, what's the link?

and yeh yoto, what's first four numbers

[velzatis]

Huuhh! Finally i got a new pm740. It definetly better than my last one, what burned. Def volt@2680mhz primestable :) :D

[Uschi M.]

links to the german forum:

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=207078
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=156228
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=205485

[velzatis]

links to the german forum:

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=207078
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=156228
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=205485damn, its in german :confused: :cool:

[lawrywild]

Huuhh! Finally i got a new pm740. It definetly better than my last one, what burned. Def volt@2680mhz primestable :) :D

nice, so vcore change still not working, that should get you to about 2850 stable with 1.55v :)

[velzatis]

nice, so vcore change still not working, that should get you to about 2850 stable with 1.55v :)Last owner had exactly same problem with he`s motherboard. He got with same processor 1,42v@2750mhz primestable.:woot:

[lawrywild]

Last owner had exactly same problem with he`s motherboard. He got with same processor 1,42v@2750mhz primestable.:woot:

nice, clocks about the same as mine then but with a lower multi, you lucky bastard :D

[cirthix]

nice, clocks about the same as mine then but with a lower multi, you lucky bastard :D


hehe, and he paid less for his too.

higher marked chips arent always better.

[lawrywild]

hehe, and he paid less for his too.

higher marked chips arent always better.

not neccessarily, I paid about the same for mine brand new OEM as 740s sell on ebay

[velzatis]

I paid for my 740 1300 estonian crowns (~100$ or £54) :)

[lawrywild]

I paid for my 740 1300 estonian crowns (~100$ or £54) :)

oh, a lot cheaper than mine then lol, wasn't brand new tho :p:


http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/8540/38k5of.png

OH YEH!!!! 38K!!! :D

1K off single card WR :D

now if only i could get a tweaked 2000pro... then I could get 40k :slobber:

[TL1000S]

0205.. and 0301 if I remember correctly..
Getting a new P4GPL-X from SHG.no tomorrow.. :)

Yes... my new P4GPL-X also has no option for adjusting VCore :mad:
It came with 0301-bios.
Still I think it performs OK with a 740M I had lying around. Runs 12x205 at default VCore.
31sek in SPi1m and 30k in 3DMark01 with a Club3D X800Pro (605/1110).

PS.
This board/bios shows much lower CPU-temps than my previous P4GPL-X. Idle at 30-32 load at 46-48.
I use a Zalman CNPS7000BAlCu-LED (moved the clip up/reversed bars).

PS-II.
And the serial number starts with 5AMM.......

[velzatis]

OK, little test:

Dothan 740 @ 2829mhz 1,45V

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/19/spi1828mhz5hy.jpg

[lawrywild]

mines also 5AMM :(

nice velzatis, mine used to be stable at 14*200 with 1.45v but not anymore... maybe because my IHS is so bad..

[Uschi M.]

Nothing new here.

ASUS denied any further support, because my CPU is not a retail one. :eek:
They insist on that processor issue.

Maybe somebody having a retail CPU starts a new technical inquiry...
:fight:

1x 59MM (september 2005) and 5x 5AMM (october2005) boards

[lawrywild]

Nothing new here.

ASUS denied any further support, because my CPU is not a retail one. :eek:
They insist on that processor issue.

Maybe somebody having a retail CPU starts a new technical inquiry...
:fight:

1x 59MM (september 2005) and 5x 5AMM (october2005) boards

:eek: I can't believe they're blaming it on that and telling you to by a new processor, that's just insane :slapass:

[TL1000S]

:eek: I can't believe they're blaming it on that and telling you to by a new processor, that's just insane :slapass:

This is BS from Asus, as I've had a P4GPL-X (sold now) with the *same* 740M (*retail').. the same bios (0301) as the new board I got last week..
The new board has a "crippled" Bios.. that is.. only "Auto" is available for CPU Vcore..
I will do the u-wire trick later this week, but this particular 740M I know will not respond much over default VCore (tried it in P4P800 SE, P4P800-E dlx.. in addition to my first P4GPL-X).. It stops at 2.55.. which it will do @ 1.45.. 24/7 stable.. Just one of those "bad" Dothan's.. :mad:

[ArneJohansen]

I havent maxed ut my fsb yeet due to poor cooling at the moment. But it goes at leat to 220. That how far i have clocked it yet.

[velzatis]

Just a superpi with my pm740@2830mhz(1,45v) and 2x256(2-2-2-5 3,3v)@257mhz.

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/3427/spi1m43xn.jpg

[lawrywild]

NICE, don't have any bh-5 to play with anymore, just my ballistix.

ArneJohansen, you need to increase pci-e to go above 220mhz, should be fine at 118mhz pci-e which should give about 250-260 fsb when clockgening in windows

[ArneJohansen]

NICE, don't have any bh-5 to play with anymore, just my ballistix.

ArneJohansen, you need to increase pci-e to go above 220mhz, should be fine at 118mhz pci-e which should give about 250-260 fsb when clockgening in windows
Thanks for the tip. Will try it soon.

[Closer]

Anyone get the p4gd1 loaded up ,ive been trying but no program i found yet will work. Uniflash, amiflash or afudos116b. Afudos came up with a error saying, no bios info in flashrom. I think the amiflash and the old afudos are just to old. Uniflash fails to write certain sections. Any other programs to try?

[Mr_X]

:mad: I cant adjust my vcore...... and my serial is : 5AMM7J5238

I have a case with Asus. They'r not to good at what they does:confused:
It is like this..... (a bit long but what a f**k) ::::

Read it from the bottom :D


Hi!
Ok I see, but you can adjust it in high values, so its not so flexible to be more solid.

Best Regards
David Hammer
Asus TSD Support

---------- Original Message ----------
From : mr_x
Sent : 2006-02-17 02:02:24
To : "tsd@asus.com.tw"
Subject : Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Motherboard P4GPL-X



I have that feature in my bios. And it is from your download site..

---------- Original Message ----------
From:ASUS TSD
To:mr_x
Date:2006-02-17 00:06:33

Hi!
On these low end motherboards you cant change the core voltage. Its the more advanced card that
have these features in bios.

Best Regards
David Hammer
Asus TSD Support

---------- Original Message ----------
From : mr_x
Sent : 2006-02-16 21:17:33
To : "tsd@asus.com.tw"
Subject : Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Motherboard P4GPL-X

Hi,

How do I increase my vcore ?

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

In the bios there is a overclock profil to set at 30% overclock. It don't work. because the cpucore
voltage cant rise as high as it must.
Is my MB defectiv ?
Can I change it at your resseller ?

Or..

Can you escalate this vcore matter to a proper department?


---------- Original Message ----------
From:ASUS TSD
To:mr_x
Date:2006-02-08 17:12:47

Hi!
Sorry, we dont have that information to send out.

Best Regards
David Hammer
Asus TSD Support

---------- Original Message ----------
From : mr_x
Sent : 2006-02-08 04:17:59
To : "tsd@asus.com.tw"
Subject : Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Motherboard P4GPL-X


I have tryed all of the bios that you have relesed to this MB with all different settings that I can think
off.......
Don´t you have any documentation of the bios development over time that you can refer to aboute in
this matter ????
Or is it to mutch to ask.......

// LG

---------- Original Message ----------
From:ASUS TSD
To:mr_x
Date:2006-02-07 23:22:51

Hi!
Please try diffrent bios from support.asus.com. Adjust settings can wary from version to version.

Best Regards
David Hammer
Asus TSD Support


---------- Original Message ----------
From : mr_x
Sent : 2006-02-07 20:10:12
To : "tsd@asus.com.tw"
Subject : Re:Re:Re:Re: Motherboard P4GPL-X


So you mean that you can´t help me ?
---------- Original Message ----------
From:ASUS TSD
To:mr_x
Date:2006-02-07 18:12:51

Hi!
Thanks for the feedback. We try to make a bios as stabile as possible but also friendly to
overclockers.

Best Regards
David Hammer
Asus TSD Support

---------- Original Message ----------
From : mr_x
Sent : 2006-02-07 05:40:18
To : "tsd@asus.com.tw"
Subject : Re:Re: Motherboard P4GPL-X


Hi David,
Do you as Asus support think that you can help me?
I don´t Want to have bougt a "overclock" MB that can not bee overclocked more then this.. only
22%.. when My cpu can upto 30%
I need the extra to make the grafic card to work well....
I´ve flasched my bios 4 times now with all relesed bios and adjust the bios settings in all the ways I
can think of.
Even when I use the "overclock profil" settings the CPU current fluctuates from 1.42 -1.32 V when I
start a single applikation.
Do you pleese have a chance to checkout if there is a bios to this MB who doesent have a auto
adjusting cpu core voltage (powersaving) built in ??

Or if there is´nt any, maby you have plans to relese a new one anyway soon in whitch you can adjust
this "feature"

---------- Original Message ----------
From:ASUS TSD
To:mr_x
Date:2006-02-06 18:43:05

Hi!
Some bios have this kind of fixes. You can try download older bioses from support.asus.com

Best Regards
David Hammer
Asus TSD Support


---------- Original Message ----------
From :
Sent : 2006-02-06 15:49:55
To : "tsd@asus.com.tw"
Subject : Motherboard P4GPL-X

*Operating System : WinXP

[Problem Description]
Hi, I have a problem with cpucore voltage
I can´t get the cpu core voltage over 1.42V it dosent mater how hi I put it in the bios screen (I´ve
been at 1.5V) . When I measure it it never comes over 1.42V..
and when I start a cpu stress program (or a game) the cpucore volt lover it self (just like a built in
powersaver or some thing like that) to 1.32 -1.33 V and when I close the program it´s upp at 1.42V
again. The raise takes approx 3-5 sec (down adjustment takes approx 5-10 sec) The cpu heat never
goes over 45C. I´ve tried to shut of and turn on every bios feature that I can think of but it´s allways
the same.
Is it some "power or heat" funktion who makes this?
The only hardware I´ve change is my motherboard.
Before I didn´t have any problems to get upp to 4.0Ghz at 1.47V



And its not over yet...
:stick:I think that He dont have a clue what I'm talking about:slap:

[lawrywild]

LOL! wtf is he talking about..

"Hi!
On these low end motherboards you cant change the core voltage. Its the more advanced card that
have these features in bios."

erm, motherboard, not "card", hardly "low end", not exactly an Asrock is it..

"Adjust settings can wary from version to version."

please asus, get someone who can spell.

"Hi!
Ok I see, but you can adjust it in high values, so its not so flexible to be more solid."

again doesn't really make sense :stick:

[ArneJohansen]

LOL! wtf is he talking about..

"Hi!
On these low end motherboards you cant change the core voltage. Its the more advanced card that
have these features in bios."

erm, motherboard, not "card", hardly "low end", not exactly an Asrock is it..

"Adjust settings can wary from version to version."

please asus, get someone who can spell.

"Hi!
Ok I see, but you can adjust it in high values, so its not so flexible to be more solid."

again doesn't really make sense :stick:
Sounds like they are really not very helpfull there in asus support. To bad the adapter only works on asus motherboards. Would have been nice with some other vendors on the marked. And to bad p4gd1 is no longer available anywhere. I did not have a pcie graphic Card back when the adaptert came available, then i might have bought myselv that motherboard.

[Closer]

I feel ripped when i emailed them and asked "I noticed that vcore has no other options then auto, is there anyway to make it adjustable?"
Asus replied "No Way". I also remember asking something about if it was a issue with certain chips and asus said "From what i understand all pentiums vcores are locked". I never emailed them again after that.

[lawrywild]

LOL!!!

omg asus please get some decent tech support!!!!!!

[lawrywild]

Anyone get the p4gd1 loaded up ,ive been trying but no program i found yet will work. Uniflash, amiflash or afudos116b. Afudos came up with a error saying, no bios info in flashrom. I think the amiflash and the old afudos are just to old. Uniflash fails to write certain sections. Any other programs to try?

I get same error in afudos 1.16b, didnt find any better software

anyone know how, Dawan said he did it

[Krimi 2000]

I bought p4gpl-x. Vcore is adjustable in bios, but it no works.

So on default about 1.35V 2680Mhz primestable. (Better than P4P800-SE)

[velzatis]

Can anybody give me a guide for VDIMM mod for p4gpl-x. I saw vdimm mod for p4gd1 in p4gd1 thread, but I didn`t understand ANYTHING there, it was so messy.

[TL1000S]

LOL!!!

omg asus please get some decent tech support!!!!!!

It may seem that they have hired some "secretary-like" peple to answer "techie" questions..
It would be better if they could "route" the questions to the actual Bios-coders..
It's (for me) obvious that Asus Bios "coders" has done a "revition" with the Bios and/or a "revition" (hardware) with the newer P4GPL-X's.
My old board did have option to adjust VCore.. and that to a very high limit (1.7Volt)..in addtion to the overvolting this first release of the board did (as many have reported here).
Maybe some persons at Asus responsible for the development of this board was "instructed" to "fix" this overvolting issue.. and decided to remove the function(adjust VCore) all toghether from Bios..
With such "knowledgeable" persons at Asus "support" we will never know I guess... :)

[lawrywild]

There must be a dodgy voltage regulator chip on these new boards.. I don't think they have removed vcore adjust all together because its still in bios..

[Closer]

Well i got the p4gd1 bios loaded up finally. Vcore still not adjustable. Added a couple options , it posts slower and reads temps really high. They explain the options far better in the bios. Just use the newest afudos and use the same commands as with the old one. Ill give the other versions a try and see what happens.

Afudos /Ip4gd1.rom /n /pbnc


Oh yeah i used bios 1006. The beta 1007 doesnt post.

[lawrywild]

hmm ok, I'll probably give it a go then..

what are the extra options btw? anything useful? like dividers?

[TL1000S]

FYI.. I did the u-wire mod this monday.
VCore now 1.55'ish (the board does not overvolt as my previous board).
As expected it did not help much with this particular 740M.. From 2.4 @ 1.34 to 2.52 @ 1.55.. as I've tested before..
But then temps are *much* higher... 45-47 idle.. 65-70 load from 32-34 idle and 46-48 full load @ default VCore (1.34). This with a properly mounted Zalman CPS7000AlCu-LED.
So I use eist to reduse VCore from 1.55 to 1.475 from startup .cmd. I still think P4GPL-X's bios'es report way to high temps..

[Closer]

Ai proactive, qfan I dont think theres any extra dividers. Ill have to look at it more, i loaded up the beta last night i havent reverted back to 1006 yet. The older p4gpl-x bios's from what i noticed read high temps. The latest version seems to be closest to the truth. The p4gd1 reads at least 10c higher than the newest p4gplx bios. It may not be to useful to have the p4gd1 bios loaded now but if they ad adjustable ratio it will be.

[Closer]

Ai booster not proactive. Yeah ddr600 became available at 200fsb. So im sure there are few other odd ones mixed in

[ArneJohansen]

FYI.. I did the u-wire mod this monday.
VCore now 1.55'ish (the board does not overvolt as my previous board).
As expected it did not help much with this particular 740M.. From 2.4 @ 1.34 to 2.52 @ 1.55.. as I've tested before..
But then temps are *much* higher... 45-47 idle.. 65-70 load from 32-34 idle and 46-48 full load @ default VCore (1.34). This with a properly mounted Zalman CPS7000AlCu-LED.
So I use eist to reduse VCore from 1.55 to 1.475 from startup .cmd. I still think P4GPL-X's bios'es report way to high temps..
Ok, bad for u that it doesnt respond to high voltage. My 730 LOVES high voltage. It goes fine @2520 on default voltage. And it did go to 2750 on my p4c800e dlx@1.6(1.55). And that with the default alu cooler. But the temps then@2750 where was high. From 50@2520 to between 65-70@2750. I`m getting 3x2GB adata 3200 sticks later this week plus my rmaèd ocz dual el ram set back. Hope those cheap ass wrong priced(half price) sticks clock at leat a little bit.

[TL1000S]

A quick update to the thread...
Tried with bios 0205 and 0401 and installed a Presoctt (2.8)..
Asus has totally f**ed up this once great board! No other option than Auto for VCore!
What a waste of money... :mad:
In addtion to my griefs.. I got a celly m 370 today from the same supplier (shg.no) of the board, that didn't even managed to post at FSB133.. Not a great day I'll say.. :coffee:

[lawrywild]

A quick update to the thread...
Tried with bios 0205 and 0401 and installed a Presoctt (2.8)..
Asus has totally f**ed up this once great board! No other option than Auto for VCore!
What a waste of money... :mad:
In addtion to my griefs.. I got a celly m 370 today from the same supplier (shg.no) of the board, that didn't even managed to post at FSB133.. Not a great day I'll say.. :coffee:


ugh.. I tried p4gd1 bios too, only option is Auto..

I wish it worked...

good news is i'm getting a refund on my screwed dothan 760 :)

maybe yonah, found a guy in china selling one apparently :)

[TL1000S]

Just a quick off-topic post... :)
Had to try to dismantle my laptop (HP dv1045) to check if that "strange" 710 installed could fair any better than my "disgusting" Celly M 370...:mad:
Oh yeah baby! This is a strange "customer".. not much info on this proc.. Intel doesn't even list this model.
Found info about 710 under Intel "thermal design".. This has a TDP rating of 10watt!!
And sure it's cool.. even though it perhaps may be rated as LV (low-voltage) it *did* work in CT-479.. Default VCore is 1.24... Put it to 1.375 and FSB166-168 (which seems to be a ceiling for this one...more VCore does not help)...
Almost 1Ghz OC and full load temp 33 C.. is "good enough"..
This made my mood improve significantly from yesterday.. :D
And it was fun to dismantle the laptop (a "first-time" for me). Lot's of small screws.. and a couple hidden under a sticker that slowed me down for a while... Now it will be interesting to see if the Celly M 370 will work in the "lappy"..

On topic:
I reinstalled a u-wire in one of my adapters.. and installed my "best" 740M in the new P4GPL-X (from my P4P800-SE).. Vcore is then 1.58-1.60 booting.. and I use Eist in a .cmd (Starutp-folder) to reduce Vid to about 1.48-1.50 @ 2.75Ghz.. With my X800Pro it scores just under 32k i 3DMark01.. Acceptable..:cool:

[malkekoen]

YES!!!!!!!!! I finally succeeded in getting a P4GD1 :D.......... and at 80$ here in Denmark :). My P4GPL-X will hit the trash can faster than crack can sell a saturday night! I'll post my results as soon as possible...

[Arnie]

I registered on XS after reading this thread, as I have just bought a P4GPL-X, and only have the auto option for Vcore.

I sent a rather, how shall i say, strong email to Asus, and I seem to be making progress. The person I have contacted is getting a p4gpl-x, a ct479 and a dothan in the next couple of days so as to try to work out what the problem is with only Auto been available for Vcore, as soon as I hear more I will let you know.

[snatchmonkey]

Heh, Good effort Arnie, I'll be interested to hear any development on this.

Bit the bullet and did the vcore mod already on mine which is working a treat.

Anyone else had problems with the marvell yukon ethernet adapter disappearing?

[DarkSyd]

Just got a P4PGPL-X, and was wondering about the bios...it came with 0301...should I be flashing it with anything different? I threw a 2.8 Prescott into it for now because I wasn't sure if I would need a bios update for the CT-479.

FWIW, vcore on my board seems locked as well. No biggie, as my 730 doesn't seem to gain much with added voltage anyways, and I can u-wire it if need be.

Now waiting for the 7800GT to roll in.

Cheers
DS

[16floz470ml]

The newest bios is 0401 and works good for me. I have not really tried any of the older ones.
The Marvel ethernet controller goes away sometimes for me too. I find that allowing the operating system to install the driver is better than installing the driver with the disk. Also there is a driver update for it via windows update.
That sucks about the voltage core problem with you guys boards. My voltage core works fine. If anything it overvolts. If you guys need any numbers from my board let me know.

[Quicksilverta]

I just replaced my x1800xl with a x1900xtx and did 11,690 in 3dmark05 :)

[DarkSyd]

There's a known problem w/ Marvel GigE adapters authenticating to 2000/2003 domain controllers, so I usually end up just disabling them anyways and using a generic realtek 8139. I'll leave it enabled just to see if it disappears though :)

[ArneJohansen]

Heh, Good effort Arnie, I'll be interested to hear any development on this.

Bit the bullet and did the vcore mod already on mine which is working a treat.

Anyone else had problems with the marvell yukon ethernet adapter disappearing?
Dont have this problem with marvel lan adapter at my board. Using newest drivers from win update. I have also had my machine on almost constantly for serveral weeks.

[ArneJohansen]

There's a known problem w/ Marvel GigE adapters authenticating to 2000/2003 domain controllers, so I usually end up just disabling them anyways and using a generic realtek 8139. I'll leave it enabled just to see if it disappears though :)
You could of course use another nic in pci og pcie ports. But if u dont have external cards, or u will like to use gigabit network at home or office this is something the card should do with marvel out of the box. External cards takes up extra space to and use power. HEHE

[ArneJohansen]

I have gotten my slippery hands om a used ASUS P4GD1 now. :D
:toast:

[JudgeC]

Had my P4GPL-X for a little while now and was wondering someone could answer me a few questions -

1, Has anyone found a way of changing multipliers on the board.
2, Does everyones board overvolt by 0.08v - 0.10v and display temps 10c + hotter than actual.
3, Where would I be able to take a true vcore reading with a DMM

Any information would be appreciated.

Cheers

JudgeC

[cirthix]

Had my P4GPL-X for a little while now and was wondering someone could answer me a few questions -

1, Has anyone found a way of changing multipliers on the board.
2, Does everyones board overvolt by 0.08v - 0.10v and display temps 10c + hotter than actual.
3, Where would I be able to take a true vcore reading with a DMM

Any information would be appreciated.

Cheers

JudgeC

1 eist
2 yes
3 legs of the chokes by the socket

[lawrywild]

1 eist
2 yes
3 legs of the chokes by the socket

Alrite JudgeC :)

both legs will give a different reading btw, the leg closest to the socket should give the lowest reading, which is the correct one.

[cooljoegz]

I'm also having the same problem with my P4GPL-X not being able to adjust vcore (auto only). I have done the u-wire 1.55v, but I would like more voltage. Can somebody please post some clear pictures/directions as to how to vmod the P4GPL-X to get 1.65 or more voltage?
I notice there is one picture in this thread with the vmod, but that picture tells me nothing. I see that where that 2 wire connects. The problem is I don't know where are those 2 wire are leading to. Can somebody please offer a newbie some help?

[cirthix]

I'm also having the same problem with my P4GPL-X not being able to adjust vcore (auto only). I have done the u-wire 1.55v, but I would like more voltage. Can somebody please post some clear pictures/directions as to how to vmod the P4GPL-X to get 1.65 or more voltage?
I notice there is one picture in this thread with the vmod, but that picture tells me nothing. I see that where that 2 wire connects. The problem is I don't know where are those 2 wire are leading to. Can somebody please offer a newbie some help?


over 1.55 wont really gain you anything

[JudgeC]

Thanks for the help Cirthix and Lawry.
I want to see how accurate the Vcore reading in BIOS/Windows is.
I hope its not as wildly inaccurate as the temp reading.

I am having trouble getting my 750 to run stable in windows at 2.7Ghz even when using a vcore of 1.525v (1.61v - 1.62 with the overvolt as reported by BIOS/Windows).
I think it should be able to run stable at this speed as it hasn't hit a wall as such and isn't running too hot 61c under full load (which is probably more like 50c in reality). My previous 740 would run stable upto 2,54Ghz and then would not even load windows 5Mhz higher than that.

[cooljoegz]

over 1.55 wont really gain you anything

I think it will. I am able to boot up at 2.96ghz and play NFS-MW for a good 3 hours. Heck, I'm even able to boot up into windows at 3.16ghz, but unstable. This is all done at 1.55 uwire. I'm pretty sure with more juice, I can easily go over 3ghz. btw: my temp is 60c (on 100% load) on my P4GPL-X, which means it's really like 50c since it's reading is around 10c above.

So can anybody provide some good pics and a short explanation of a vcore mod? It would be much appreciated?

[lawrywild]

I think it will. I am able to boot up at 2.96ghz and play NFS-MW for a good 3 hours. Heck, I'm even able to boot up into windows at 3.16ghz, but unstable. This is all done at 1.55 uwire. I'm pretty sure with more juice, I can easily go over 3ghz. btw: my temp is 60c (on 100% load) on my P4GPL-X, which means it's really like 50c since it's reading is around 10c above.

So can anybody provide some good pics and a short explanation of a vcore mod? It would be much appreciated?

From past experience, I'd say the temp sensor is 15 degrees too high

[ArneJohansen]

From past experience, I'd say the temp sensor is 15 degrees too high
It could well be 15 degrees to high. Because it shows a lot more than my olc p4c800e dlx board.

[smolk]

Bumping this thread.

I've also got this problem (vcore is only auto :mad:) I'd probably say that this thing is quite new, only motherboards bought in 06 (or end 2005) seems to have this problem. I will probably have to do a vcore mod later on. I have a reg P4 Prescott, no CT-479.

BUT, the biggest problem is that the dividers are totally f*cked up! I ONLY HAVE 5:4! If I choose 400/333 doesn't matter, it stills 5:4! Someone has a solution to this? Would flash to P4GD1 help? And how big is the succesratio of that?

[kiwi]

Started reading old thread since I got a cheap 740 dothan and p4gpl-x :D

Yes, newer revision boards do not change vcore. This is hilarious. I got rev 1.03. I don't remember revision of my old board but I could change vcore no problem.

It seems uwire mod is the only way to change vcore

Well, dothan of the 9th week of 2006 is prime stable @ 2600Mhz 1.32V DMM

Will post uwire mod results later

[fubuki]

I also have a ver. 1.03 P4GPL-X board. Interestingly, manual vcore settings work sometimes right after clearing the CMOS. Options go from 1.1875V to 1.7000V in 0.0125V increments. I've only had this happen twice (both times tonight), usually the only option is Auto.

Vcore changes seem to stick after reboot, as the BIOS hardware monitor reports 1.672-1.688 as vcore voltage after changing the setting to 1.7000V. I thought I read on the forums that the board overvolts... that doesn't look to be the case with mine.

[lawrywild]

OMG extreme thread revival!