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JNav89GT
02-05-2006, 09:19 AM
1st Intel cpu I've liked since my 2.4c :)
runs hot even with watercooling, but still I think it's a good setup :)
With cheapie refurb x800gto from newegg putting up some decent numbers :)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43071&stc=1&d=1010368661
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43072&stc=1&d=1010368661
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43073&stc=1&d=1010368661
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43074&stc=1&d=1010368661

nicepun
02-05-2006, 11:29 AM
Yep, that's pretty damn good. I wish I could get more outta mine, but unless I go with WaterChill or better I'm stock where I'm at. What helps me a little bit is my ram. What are you load temps? Try doing some PCMark04/05.

JNav89GT
02-05-2006, 11:56 AM
ok I"ll have to dl them though

JNav89GT
02-05-2006, 11:57 AM
load temps 57-58C :O
radiator is about boiling over lol!
j/k of course
but rad is hot. Prolly need a much better fan. I had graphics watercooled too in loop but cpu heat actually made clocks worse :(

n00b 0f l337
02-05-2006, 11:59 AM
Time to upgrade your radiator.

MFM
02-05-2006, 12:17 PM
:eek:

Do you need to use that vcore to push the 920@4200 ???? Even using WC???

I only need 1.37vcore to put my 920@4200 with Air Cooling and 2.2vdim to push my 2GB Patriot PC-6400 DDR2 @ PC-7100 (900).

I'm using Air Cooling (XP90c + NB SX2) and only 1.37Vcore
(Click and see)

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/3808/2teste4id.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2teste4id.jpg)

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/2809/2testecont8bx.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2testecont8bx.jpg)

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/6641/bandwith1ij.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bandwith1ij.jpg)

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/2724/write2vk.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=write2vk.jpg)

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/4421/latency2fw.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=latency2fw.jpg)

Turn off all tweaks @bios, like hyper path 3, etc, because it limits the manual OC. ;)

JNav89GT
02-05-2006, 12:18 PM
yeah
but this is a very spare pc used for ddr2 testing ;p
more fan should help with temps, but blast furnace of cpu isn't helping!

I still like it though :)

JNav89GT
02-05-2006, 12:19 PM
:eek:

Do you need to use that vcore to push the 920@4200 ???? Even using WC???

I only need 1.37vcore to put my 920@4200 with Air Cooling and 2.2vdim to push my 2GB Patriot PC-6400 DDR2 @ PC-7100 (900).

I'm using Air Cooling (XP90c + NB SX2) and only 1.37Vcore
(Click and see)

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/3808/2teste4id.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2teste4id.jpg)

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/2809/2testecont8bx.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2testecont8bx.jpg)

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/6641/bandwith1ij.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bandwith1ij.jpg)

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/2724/write2vk.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=write2vk.jpg)

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/4421/latency2fw.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=latency2fw.jpg)

Turn off all tweaks @bios, like hyper path 3, etc, because it limits the manual OC. ;)
yep less vcore = not stable :(

MFM
02-05-2006, 12:37 PM
What bios r you using?

Try the "WD2P0704 beta"! It's 100% stable, and for me, it's better than the other ones i've tried before.

Go @ Bios and make this changes:

Advanced/JumperFree Config Menu

-> Performance Mode [Standard]

-> MCH Chipset Voltage [1.60v]

CPU Configuration Menu

-> Microcode Updation [Enabled]
all other options on this menu [Disabled]

Chipset Menu

-> Hyper Path 3 [Disabled]
-> Link Latency [Normal]
-> PEG Link Mode [Normal]

Try to set your Vcore to 1.4v and then make some tests. If its ok, try to low the vcore to 1.385v and so on.... ;)

Hope this helps u!

bypolar
02-05-2006, 01:23 PM
I just installed a 920 in a Foxconn 955 board, and It seems to be doing Pretty good. Much better than any of the Prescots I have had.

This is the first Intel chip I have had that feels like it would keep up with a
x2 series Athlons.

Air cooled with a temp probe right on the CPU heatspreader.
45C Max 230=3.2G Just getting started.

MFM
02-05-2006, 02:06 PM
Your 920 can do much more!!!
3.2 it's peanuts for that cpu! :banana: ;)

bypolar
02-05-2006, 03:32 PM
Your 920 can do much more!!!
3.2 it's peanuts for that cpu! :banana: ;)

Yes that is what I am Hoping for, yet this might not be the right board for it.

MFM
02-05-2006, 04:07 PM
Maybe not the board....maybe its the BIOS u'r using, or the settings @bios.

Try to disable the hyper path 3, and set the Performance Mode to Standard.

This settings are good when u'r using default speeds, but when OCing this limits the overclock.

jpharg
02-05-2006, 05:25 PM
I'm kind of disappointed with these cpu's. I was thinking 4.6 would be seen quite often on water. I will probably get one anyway.

JNav89GT
02-06-2006, 05:22 AM
yeah I was hoping after the hype prior to launch that cm would be 5ghz+ on water and pressler wouldn't be far behind. Reality has bit us hard this time. Oh well, still good preformer for what it is :)

Sentential
02-06-2006, 05:24 AM
yeah I was hoping after the hype prior to launch that cm would be 5ghz+ on water and pressler wouldn't be far behind. Reality has bit us hard this time. Oh well, still good preformer for what it is :)
Intel's yields have been awefully spotty. The better chips can do 5 its just a question of which.

In addition ive seen the yeilds go way down recentally. Some 920s wont even do 4ghz now

JoeBar
02-06-2006, 05:38 AM
Intel's yields have been awefully spotty. The better chips can do 5 its just a question of which.

In addition ive seen the yeilds go way down recentally. Some 920s wont even do 4ghz now

I hope that won't be my case. I just ordered a 920... :)

nicepun
02-06-2006, 12:17 PM
Yeah, I was hoping to do around 4.4 with my 930, but unless I do extreme cooling I will not see that happening. To my suprise this chip gets hotter than my old 840. Same system, nothing has changed. I guess it's just luck of the draw.

Mixman
02-06-2006, 02:12 PM
My 920 can go up to 4.5, but I have to put my AC on and put the case a couple of feet in front of it. I do need 1.6V to be Prime stable at that speed. I am right now at 4.4 with 1.55V, it's much easier to maintain this speed.

MFM- as I found out some chips need more voltage to get to the same speed, it's just luck of the draw.

althes
02-06-2006, 02:28 PM
I thinkI may just get one and give it a go.

One_Hertz
02-06-2006, 02:28 PM
Quick question, a person I know claims he got his 920D 3d stable at 4.6ghz, stock volts and cooling, thats complete bs right?

pablo
02-06-2006, 04:35 PM
stock cooling? i wouldnt believe that. stock cooler is just a paper weight

isp
02-06-2006, 06:23 PM
I'm happy with paying $260 for this chip. It's not gonna break any world records but it's a decent budget system. I am using cheap turbo PQI memory as well. ;)

300fsb Air cooled w/ BT, load temps go up into the mid 60's. :)

http://img272.imageshack.us/img272/6776/max8rq.th.gif (http://img272.imageshack.us/my.php?image=max8rq.gif)

I run it at 287fsb day to day as it's not as hot that way (bout 60c loaded).

bypolar
02-06-2006, 07:11 PM
Well I am voltage limited. only have .1825 above default for a total of 1.34 according to the bios and cpu-z. 250fsb for 3.5G.

I need a V-mod.

5-Clicks
02-06-2006, 07:49 PM
Are you using those new Mushkin XP2-5300's? How're you liking them?

Celeron Gamer
02-06-2006, 10:09 PM
Hmm... would a 930 OC better than this?

Currently thinking of a complete new PC(maybe), but still thinking about parts, and waiting

JNav89GT
02-06-2006, 10:31 PM
Are you using those new Mushkin XP2-5300's? How're you liking them?
I'm using the Mushkin PC5300 yeah! So far liking them alot. Not a whole ton of headroom at 3-3-3-x timings, but once at 4-4-4-18 and 2.2v they will do about 1ghz give or take ;), not bad for 2x1gb sticks. :woot:

MFM
02-07-2006, 01:57 AM
My 920 can go up to 4.5, but I have to put my AC on and put the case a couple of feet in front of it. I do need 1.6V to be Prime stable at that speed. I am right now at 4.4 with 1.55V, it's much easier to maintain this speed.

Have u tried to turn off the hyper path 3, and the other options i mentioned in post #9 ?

Because i had same problem to reach the 4.2G with only 1.375v, and the prob was HyperPath3, and a few other tweaks on BIOS. After turn off this settings and make what i mentioned on post #9, i put my 920@4.2G without any probs! :toast:


MFM- as I found out some chips need more voltage to get to the same speed, it's just luck of the draw.

Maybe....

JoeBar
02-07-2006, 03:23 AM
Have u tried to turn off the hyper path 3, and the other options i mentioned in post #9 ?

Because i had same problem to reach the 4.2G with only 1.375v, and the prob was HyperPath3, and a few other tweaks on BIOS. After turn off this settings and make what i mentioned on post #9, i put my 920@4.2G without any probs! :toast:

How far can u go with hyper path 3 enabled?

IluvIntel
02-07-2006, 03:37 AM
Its interesting seeing you guys play with the 65nm dualcores and turning off Asus Hyperpath 3 and performance mode to standard at 4.2ghz, not so with older 90nm single core 630 on same mobo.

My feeling was right, better at the moment to be patient and wait unitll 2nd wave of 65nm dualcores....

JoeBar
02-07-2006, 03:44 AM
Its interesting seeing you guys play with the 65nm dualcores and turning off Asus Hyperpath 3 and performance mode to standard at 4.2ghz, not so with older 90nm single core 630 on same mobo.

My feeling was right, better at the moment to be patient and wait unitll 2nd wave of 65nm dualcores....
I have the same thought also. However due to the fact that i'll change my P5WD2 with a P5WDG2-WS, i ordered a 920 too. If things go wrong i'll wait for a 2nd batch 930... ;)

IluvIntel
02-07-2006, 03:50 AM
I have the same thought also. However due to the fact that i'll change my P5WD2 with a P5WDG2-WS, i ordered a 920 too. If things go wrong i'll wait for a 2nd batch 930... ;)

I got my Gigabyte 975X mobo coming in couple of days and cedarmill next week. The problem now is what to do with new mobo and next week... maybe play with 630 on 975x for one week or so...:D

JoeBar
02-07-2006, 04:07 AM
That's what i would do... :)

Shinuza
02-07-2006, 06:03 AM
I got my Gigabyte 975X mobo coming in couple of days and cedarmill next week. The problem now is what to do with new mobo and next week... maybe play with 630 on 975x for one week or so...:D
Go on, post results on XS :D :slobber:

Dumo
02-07-2006, 07:51 AM
Any hope for Intel 95/65nm with -90C?

Shinuza
02-07-2006, 10:27 AM
Coming, don't worry :D

MFM
02-07-2006, 10:28 AM
How far can u go with hyper path 3 enabled?

With HyperPath 3 on and Performance mode to Turbo -> 3.9G Stable but only with 1.42vcore.

After change this settings -> 4.2G with 1.375vcore Stable.

Its interesting seeing you guys play with the 65nm dualcores and turning off Asus Hyperpath 3 and performance mode to standard at 4.2ghz, not so with older 90nm single core 630 on same mobo.

Why u said that? Hyper Path 3 and Performance Mode are only automatic tweaks, and as u know, when u're OCing manualy you should turn off all automatic OC settings and tweaks....!

SlackerXL
02-07-2006, 02:59 PM
just got my p5wdg2-ws last weekend
and tried a D950ES on it...

note that this particular chip would not run stable above 4ghz - 1.50v
on a P5N32SLI
idle temps were falsely detected below room temperature :p:
and Snm 100% cpu load ~36C

Yesterday this D950ES passed several quick 100% load snm tests and Spi
on the p5wdg2-ws @ 4.65ghz - 1.35v! (everything else default)
aircooled (xp-120) with max temps ~65c (28.1'' 1m SPi)
definitely needs some serious w/c setup
but i'm kinda worried about the 8 phase mosfets and southbridge hsf
running too hot to touch
(everest detects Aux* temp rise from ambient up to 123C!!!)


tomorow i'll probably have some time to test it with the same watercooling setup to see how it handles around 5g (hopefully)




*wish i knew what exactly is that Aux temp sensor reading anyway....

Eastcoasthandle
02-07-2006, 05:13 PM
Hey,

I have a problem...could you help?
HELP!!
I spent 2 days trying to get this motherboard to work. I only have 1 problem it will not detect anything on the PCI slots. But everytime I reboot it tell me it found new hardware when I check the device manager it tells me I have a PCI device that needs to have drivers installed. Problem is it won't take the inf files for this MB. I can take the X-fi out and still get the same thing: reboot, detects pci device, asks me to install driver, denies use of drivers available throught DL or CD. Has anyone ever had this problem? Please help...
Right now everything is fine except I don't have sound...

JoeBar
02-08-2006, 03:31 AM
With HyperPath 3 on and Performance mode to Turbo -> 3.9G Stable but only with 1.42vcore.

After change this settings -> 4.2G with 1.375vcore Stable.


Try enabling HyperPath 3 with Performance Mode -> Standard.

5-Clicks
02-08-2006, 03:44 AM
I disabled HyperPath3 and put the Performance Mode to Standard and my 650 doesn't go any higher.

MFM
02-08-2006, 12:36 PM
I disabled HyperPath3 and put the Performance Mode to Standard and my 650 doesn't go any higher.

With the 640 that I had, i never had this problem and I never needed to disactivate these settings to OC well, but with the 920 I had to change this settings to obtain 4.2G.

JoeBar
02-10-2006, 04:50 AM
With the 640 that I had, i never had this problem and I never needed to disactivate these settings to OC well, but with the 920 I had to change this settings to obtain 4.2G.
That's my case also. I have to disable HyperPath 3 to keep my 920 stable @ 4.1ghz.

JNav89GT
02-10-2006, 08:01 AM
I'll have to check where mine is at, I think I Had to disable it too ;)
unless I left it on auto
I'll disable for sure though and report back
ty

LarsK
02-10-2006, 08:19 AM
I'm not really sure whether it's the 920 or the P5WD2-E that get's weird above ~300 Mhz fsb. It's probably the motherboard, hopefully a new bios will resolve it later. It's like I can run 3dmark05complete suite with cpu tests, I can run pcmark04 and 05 with no trouble, but superpi 1M will fail within 5-6 seconds...w00t :confused: Oh yeah, and memtest86 runs error free for hours too, but superpi 1M will fail within seconds. Usually I can run superpi 1M at at least 250-300 Mhz above what I can run pcmarks error free at with my single stage phasechange cooling. I'm puzzled..... to say the least :confused:

At any rate, I've been benching some 3dmarks with my 920 @ 4.9 Ghz today, and coupled with a x1900xtx card is does quite well. Almost 41k in 3dmark2001se and over 12.5k in 3dmark05. Pretty damn good for the cheapest (until 805 arrives at least) Intel P4 dualcore cpu.

I cannot have hyperpath3 enabled either, with my 670 @ 370+ MHz fsb it was fine in my P5WD2-P, but anything other than "auto" on this P5WD2-E spells trouble :rolleyes:

JNav89GT
02-10-2006, 10:59 AM
disabled hyperpath and can now at least bench at 305-310mhz fsb
might have eeked out a hair more mhz
;)

isp
02-10-2006, 05:41 PM
what clocks was the x800gto at btw

JNav89GT
02-10-2006, 06:00 PM
erm I'll have to check
I think 560/560 or something near there ;)

JoeBar
02-11-2006, 05:11 AM
disabled hyperpath and can now at least bench at 305-310mhz fsb
might have eeked out a hair more mhz
;)
I really don't like disabling HyperPath 3 but it seems that's the only solution for high fsb's.
Asus come on fix this!

nutcase
02-11-2006, 02:08 PM
My 920 will do 4528 Mhz under Dry ice and be 3Dmark stable.. It will boot to windows at 4.7 Ghz but that is all it will do :p:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=69527

LarsK
02-11-2006, 10:38 PM
Well, either my P5WD2-E or my 920 is not too happy with the cold, but it does a bit better in the Mach II GT:

Max speed, so far is a 5116 Mhz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=70240

3dmarks run @ 4906 Mhz: 3dmark2001se 40886: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8894960
3dmark05 12639: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1792634

I haven't tried PCMark at anything higher than 4766 Mhz yet, but here's a 8203 score at 4766 Mhz: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm05=268396

Byron
02-12-2006, 06:17 AM
for all of u chaps with high vcores, make sure you've got some air flowing above the mosfet main circuit ;)

a 40x40x10mm fan should do fine above the mosfet heatsink.

Good Luck
B

Technonut
02-12-2006, 08:35 AM
How far can u go with hyper path 3 enabled?

I run Turbo Performance Mode/ HP3 enabled @ 4.3GHz / 24/7 with no issues..... ;) (water-cooled)

EDIT: I tried setting the Performance Mode to standard, disabling HP3, and knocking-back the RAM divider.... I thought it may eek-out another 100MHz for a nice 4.4GHz. :) Not happening though.... :( Oh well, I am happy where I am at..

JoeBar
02-12-2006, 11:50 PM
I run Turbo Performance Mode/ HP3 enabled @ 4.3GHz / 24/7 with no issues..... ;) (water-cooled)

EDIT: I tried setting the Performance Mode to standard, disabling HP3, and knocking-back the RAM divider.... I thought it may eek-out another 100MHz for a nice 4.4GHz. :) Not happening though.... :( Oh well, I am happy where I am at..
That's not the case with me. :(
With my previous P5WD2 i could run my 640 @ 4.1ghz with my mem @ 750mhz 4-4-4-11 with hyperpath 3 enabled.
With P5WDG2-WS i can't run with it enabled above 580mhz mem speed.

jVIDIA
03-18-2006, 02:42 PM
Is there a new P5WD2 Premium bios ?!

WD2P0704 ?!? Where ?