Asus P5WD2-E Premium Intel 975X

[Vapor matt]

Hi people

can anyone tell me if this board suffers with the V droop problem like the 955x board?

many thanks

matt

[leejsmith]

from my testing with a 920d the p5wd2-e is worse than a p5wd2-premium i have.
setting vcore in bios to 1.45v
while at idle it increased to 1.5v
running 2 x prime 95 it would droop to 1.38v

i plan to set a p5wd2-premium to compare soon.

[JoeBar]

There's P5WD2-WS with 8 phase power as an alternative.

[Vapor matt]

[QUOTE][/There's P5WD2-WS with 8 phase power as an alternative.QUOTE]

where can i get one of those from?:banana:

thanks!

[JoeBar]

I can't help u on this. :(
Here in Greece they are available though.

[Vapor matt]

why is the ws so diffrent from the Asus P5WD2-E does this one only have 4 phase power then?

[JoeBar]

WS = Workstation
It is directed to the workstation market. U can find a review of this board here (http://anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2631).
And here (http://anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2671&p=14) is what i'm talking about.

[Vapor matt]

hey joebar can you give me a link as to where you can buy one in greece please?

thanks

[jdam]

looks like its an asus problem, my p5nd2-sli (intel nforce4) has it too, not as much as stated above but definitely not stable

[Vapor matt]

Its ok mate ive found 1:toast:

[Umek]

gyus what is better, P5WD2 Premium or GA-8I955X Royal??

[PcCI2iminal]

gyus what is better, P5WD2 Premium or GA-8I955X Royal??

for what?

P5WD2 oc better

for 24/7 Royal is a bit better with more features

[Vapor matt]

well ive just orderd me the P5WD2-WS:woot: . should be with me next thursday!:banana:

cant stand this V droop. and why oh why didnt asus include the 8 phase power option on the P5WD2 Premium:mad:

only one thing though i need to swap out my 250g seagate as the P5WD2-WS dosnt support any IDE H/drives as i will be useing the master IDE for my 2 optical drives!

Oh well cant have everything i guess! will have to get me a USB2 caddy for it!

[JoeBar]

I just ordered one also along with a 920! :banana:

[Vapor matt]

hey good for you joebar!

which one did you oreder? ws?

[JoeBar]

hey good for you joebar!

which one did you oreder? ws?
Of course! :banana:
Thursday/Friday i'll have them, along with a w/c upgrade, a 80mm asetek radiator... :)

[nicepun]

only one thing though i need to swap out my 250g seagate as the P5WD2-WS dosnt support any IDE H/drives as i will be useing the master IDE for my 2 optical drives!

Oh well cant have everything i guess! will have to get me a USB2 caddy for it!


Maybe this can help. I'm using two of these and running two IDE 133 in RAID 0, of course it's only as fast as the hard drive.

http://cgi.ebay.com/IDE-ATA-to-SATA-Hard-Disk-Drive-Converter-Adapter-NEW_W0QQitemZ5863950547QQcategoryZ74941QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

[Umek]

difference between P5WDG2-WS and P5WD2-E Premium¿? ^^

[JoeBar]

difference between P5WDG2-WS and P5WD2-E Premium¿? ^^
The main are that WS spports PCI-x and has 8 phase power.

[dutchman.pt]

The main are that WS spports PCI-x and has 8 phase power.
More expensive than P5WD2-E Premium, right?

[Helix]

Sure...
Here in portugal the asus 975X premium is about 240-50 € and the other model, the WS is in the 300€ range m8...

[^don.k's^]

Another with P5WD2-E with a sucky vdroop... :stick: vdroop mod needed... :D

[dutchman.pt]

Sure...
Here in portugal the asus 975X premium is about 240-50 € and the other model, the WS is in the 300€ range m8...
Yep, i know it too because i searched for the motherboard and posted it at PCDiga forum.
Anyway, welcome to XtremeSys Helix. :toast:

[Byron]

well, since i've done the vcore droop on my P5WD2-p it is rock stable anyway... i'm expecting to see a vcore droop even on the WS version tbh as 8-phase power might not have a direct relation with the vcore droop or something, we'll see... :) (remember, 4-phase on the AS8 considered to be top back then, still had droop problems)

[SlackerXL]

well, since i've done the vcore droop on my P5WD2-p it is rock stable anyway... i'm expecting to see a vcore droop even on the WS version tbh as 8-phase power might not have a direct relation with the vcore droop or something, we'll see... :) (remember, 4-phase on the AS8 considered to be top back then, still had droop problems)


YEAP! unfortunately you are right
mine (WS) definitely needs a vdroop mod....
the vcore does fluctuate indeed
although the board is much more stable and O/Cable than P5N32 (+1GHZ!!!)

i guess i need to pay Hipro a visit one of these days ;)

[JoeBar]

YEAP! unfortunately you are right
mine (WS) definitely needs a vdroop mod....
the vcore does fluctuate indeed
although the board is much more stable and O/Cable than P5N32 (+1GHZ!!!)

i guess i need to pay Hipro a visit one of these days ;)
Mine does it also. :(
With 1.35v vcore set in bios. It idles @ 1.37 and drops to about 1.3v under load.

BTW with what bios did your came? Mine has 0301 but i see @ asus that they have 0401 and call it "first realease".

[^don.k's^]

I have the 0206 i think... :stick:

[SlackerXL]

Mine does it also. :(
With 1.35v vcore set in bios. It idles @ 1.37 and drops to about 1.3v under load.

BTW with what bios did your came? Mine has 0301 but i see @ asus that they have 0401 and call it "first realease".

0301 Here too...
anyone else tried the 401 "first release"?

besides the fluctuation issue
i still think the board performs above average
(to be honest i haven't played alot with intel lately
so i can't make any conclusions yet )

here is the D950 (watercooled)
@ 295fsb (SPi 32m & SnM stable)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/SlackerXL/cpuz2.jpg

a quick SPi 1m @ 297... (NOT SnM stable)
you can clearly see that although Vcore is set to 1.5625 through BIOS
AIbooster reports 1.49-1.530

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/SlackerXL/spi1m297.jpg

memory runs @ 393mhz 5-4-4-15 2.35v (Kingston 2x1gb Mtec chips)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/SlackerXL/cpuz3.jpg

[Vapor matt]

You mean the WS still V droop's under load? dam thought the v droop was elimnated with the 8 phase power circitry.


still havnt got mine yet, picking up from another suplier monday, one which does actualy have stock!!!!!


so whats the cure on the V droop on the WS board? anyone?

[IluvIntel]

here is the D950 (watercooled)
@ 295fsb (SPi 32m & SnM stable)


Hey SlackerXL, what mobo is that on ?

[JoeBar]

Hey SlackerXL, what mobo is that on ?
P5WDG2-WS

[JoeBar]

0301 Here too...
anyone else tried the 401 "first release"?

besides the fluctuation issue
i still think the board performs above average
(to be honest i haven't played alot with intel lately
so i can't make any conclusions yet )

here is the D950 (watercooled)
@ 295fsb (SPi 32m & SnM stable)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/SlackerXL/cpuz2.jpg

a quick SPi 1m @ 297... (NOT SnM stable)
you can clearly see that although Vcore is set to 1.5625 through BIOS
AIbooster reports 1.49-1.530

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/SlackerXL/spi1m297.jpg

memory runs @ 393mhz 5-4-4-15 2.35v (Kingston 2x1gb Mtec chips)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/SlackerXL/cpuz3.jpg
Very nice scores m8! :up:
What's the max stable u can do and what w/c do u have?

[Byron]

SlackerXL

impressive results indeed,
what is your room temperature and what is your maximum fsb using smaller multi?

Cheers

[Big_Sam]

what is your maximum fsb using smaller multi?


Though this question not to me, but I can tell, that my P5WD2-E works in the same way as P5WD2 (i955). It is possible without problems and mods to reach FSB frequency about 400Mhz

http://murenacat.com/sam/files/03_20627.gif

[SlackerXL]

Very nice scores m8! :up:
What's the max stable u can do and what w/c do u have?

SlackerXL
impressive results indeed,
what is your room temperature and what is your maximum fsb using smaller multi?
Cheers

Right now the permentioned frequency of 5.0ghz is my max stable o/c
(spi32m, snm, pcmark05)

didn't have the time yet to find max fsb and max benchable o/c
but one thing i know for sure is that i'm gonna need better cooling to do that
as i it already reaches 60C during SnM!!! (@5.0ghz/1.5625~24Ambient temp)
it sure is one hot mofo....

the w/c setup consists of the following parts:
- Black Ice X-Flow Xtreme II (http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=199&cat=73&page=1) with two silent CM low cfm 120mm fans
- WaterChill 12V DC Pump (http://www.asetek.com/default.asp?showPage=startside.asp&contentSection=2)
- DD Copper TDX Block (http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=21&cat=21&page=1)

but its all cramped in a corner with no sufficent airflow and workpace...

(you know how it gets when you get new hardware )

[OC_newbie]

Though this question not to me, but I can tell, that my P5WD2-E works in the same way as P5WD2 (i955). It is possible without problems and mods to reach FSB frequency about 400Mhz

http://murenacat.com/sam/files/03_20627.gif

I have to agree 400 FSB is easy to get on the P5WD2-E Premium...

[Byron]

cool,
i'm having some problems with my P5WD2-P, when i set vcore to 1.48-1.5 mobo shuts down while running double prime... anyone? i'm using water with temps about 52oC's

Cheers,
B

[JoeBar]

Right now the permentioned frequency of 5.0ghz is my max stable o/c
(spi32m, snm, pcmark05)

didn't have the time yet to find max fsb and max benchable o/c
but one thing i know for sure is that i'm gonna need better cooling to do that
as i it already reaches 60C during SnM!!! (@5.0ghz/1.5625~24Ambient temp)
it sure is one hot mofo....

the w/c setup consists of the following parts:
- Black Ice X-Flow Xtreme II (http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=199&cat=73&page=1) with two silent CM low cfm 120mm fans
- WaterChill 12V DC Pump (http://www.asetek.com/default.asp?showPage=startside.asp&contentSection=2)
- DD Copper TDX Block (http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=21&cat=21&page=1)

but its all cramped in a corner with no sufficent airflow and workpace...

(you know how it gets when you get new hardware )
Very nice temps for such clock and vcore. Seems that u don't need a case... ;)

[SlackerXL]

Very nice temps for such clock and vcore. Seems that u don't need a case... ;)

needless to say... :D
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/SlackerXL/HPIM0280.jpg

[JoeBar]

Nice setup! :up:
Are u going to try 0401 bios btw?

[Donni]

Where I can find a new bios,Pls? 0401?

thx

[JoeBar]

Where I can find a new bios,Pls? 0401?

thx
Go to asus download site.

[Donni]

Go to asus download site.

:slapass: I find 0401 Bios for P5WDG2-WS, but not for P5WD2-E on the Asus Site!

:(

[Vapor matt]

well got my new P5WDG2-WS and yes it still has the V droop but not as bad as my old board. i have added lots of cooling to the fets and such.

anyway heres where i am so far with my 940. gota let that as5 settle a little more and iam sure i might make the 300 fsb 5g


http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cpuz4615mhz6uc.jpg
http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark01399008ku.jpg
http://img350.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark0665250fq.jpg


I will let you know how it goes! but would love a V droop mod for this baord!!!

[Byron]

wow, impressive results Vapor matt,
what is the room temp that u got that speed?

Cheers

[Vapor matt]

well its about 70f 22c in the room, iam water cooled useing a polaflowTT CPU block and a modded DD X18 GPU block on a modded reserator with black ice rad and 2 X 120mm fans, 1250 pump.

seems it will go higher but would like to let the AS5 settle a bit longer and also let the whole thing settle in a bit longer!

very pleased so far!

[Byron]

damn that is impressive, i've stuck at 4.2ghz with my 920 and 1.46vcore full load with storm block, dual pumps, 2x120 rad but room temp is 26oC and cpu temps at full load reach 54oC according to software, though i think mobo limits it :(

does it run dual prime95 at that speed m8?

[Vapor matt]

dual prime isnt a problem, it runs it perfectly! infact it hasnt glitched once yet.

i let it run 3dmark 06 cpu tests over and over and its fine also. must have struck lucky and got me a good one!

Had to seriously mod the polaflow TT to fit though as the caps round the socket just hit it in 2 places. but ive always like the TT cpu block as it has always given good temps.

acording to Ati software the GPU is running at 26c with the X18 dd block, but how acurate the software is who knows! but its nice to think it comes after my CPU!:)

[Byron]

cpu temp at full load?

[Vapor matt]

CPU temp full load 43c so not bad!

in the next few days i will be upgrading my drives to 2 atlas II 15k scsi in raid O on PCI-X dual channel. so it continues the PC bug! think i need help!

any doctors in the house!:slap:


will push it up over the weekend and see what this CPU will do, but idealy would like a V droop mod as its still jumping a wee bit.

[SlackerXL]

CPU temp full load 43c so not bad!

in the next few days i will be upgrading my drives to 2 atlas II 15k scsi in raid O on PCI-X dual channel. so it continues the PC bug! think i need help!

any doctors in the house!:slap:


will push it up over the weekend and see what this CPU will do, but idealy would like a V droop mod as its still jumping a wee bit.

Very nice clocks and temps indeed Vapor matt :clap:

just a hedzup
i still have my 2 Atlas V 10K u320 73GB and Perc3/DC U160 idling
as winxp and scsi raid is a bad combination... (poor performance)
(there are a few tricks
but to get them to work properly
it mostly depends on the controller itself)

so i suggest you give it a try with win2003
or in case you have a U320 controller that runs smoothly under winXP
please let me know which model etc as i'm looking to get one too :slobber:


PS:
for max cpu load and max temps
(very stressfull memory testing also)
i suggest SnM.... it beats the hell outta Prime, Spi & memtest...
(just disable the thermal monitoring feature
so that the prog doesn't stop whenever it feels like)

[leejsmith]

does anyone have the marvel raid working on the p5wd2-e ? i need to get some ide drives connected but everytime i install the drivers it just says installation failed.
i downloaded the latest driver yesterday but still no joy.
also what version of asus update are you using i cant get that to run to update my bios.

apart from those little problems it's running nice.

i have a 920d runnign at 300fsb for 4200 @ 1.415 vcore. it droops about +- 0.05v under load and at idle.

i can run at 320 fsb with 1.45vcore but after about an hour programs start to get unstable super pi starts to fail quicker the more i run it.
@ 1.45 in the bios it drops down to 1.38v and at idle upto 1.5.

my system is water cooled with a swiftech d4 , storm g4 1 x 120.2 , DD zchipset and maze 4 gpu.

with system temps of 28C the cpu under dual prime load @ 4200 is about 48C so i have plenty of scope to get higher.

[JoeBar]

:slapass: I find 0401 Bios for P5WDG2-WS, but not for P5WD2-E on the Asus Site!

:(

I was reffering to -WS. P5WD2-E's latest bios is 0301 (http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5WD2-E%20Premium/WD2EP0302.zip)
Sorry for the misunderstanding. :(

[JoeBar]

well got my new P5WDG2-WS and yes it still has the V droop but not as bad as my old board. i have added lots of cooling to the fets and such.

anyway heres where i am so far with my 940. gota let that as5 settle a little more and iam sure i might make the 300 fsb 5g


http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cpuz4615mhz6uc.jpg
http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark01399008ku.jpg
http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark069im.jpg


I will let you know how it goes! but would love a V droop mod for this baord!!!

Great clocks! :up:
Seems that u finally like your WS... :)

[I_G]

does anyone have the marvel raid working on the p5wd2-e ? i need to get some ide drives connected but everytime i install the drivers it just says installation failed.
i downloaded the latest driver yesterday but still no joy.


Try this: put the driver file somewhere easy to find, like the desktop, then use Device Manager to manually update the driver. Don't let the wizard search on it's own. Use the 'I will choose' option to browse to the folder where the driver is and that should do it.

[leejsmith]

i didnt try that this tme but did before i downloaded the current version.


Try this: put the driver file somewhere easy to find, like the desktop, then use Device Manager to manually update the driver. Don't let the wizard search on it's own. Use the 'I will choose' option to browse to the folder where the driver is and that should do it.

[leejsmith]

that worked on the new driver version :woot:

i didnt try that this tme but did before i downloaded the current version.

[hicookie]

any idea about ddr2 vdimm mod? :D

[Donni]

I was reffering to -WS. P5WD2-E's latest bios is 0301 (http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5WD2-E%20Premium/WD2EP0302.zip)
Sorry for the misunderstanding. :(

:D no problem , latest bios is 0302 ;)

:banana:

[The Stilt]

any idea about ddr2 vdimm mod? :D

I´ll upload the pictures tomorrow.
The mods are pretty much the same as the P5WD2 mods were.

[I_G]

that worked on the new driver version :woot:

:party:

[nFo]

I´ll upload the pictures tomorrow.
The mods are pretty much the same as the P5WD2 mods were.

Are the Vmods ready ? :banana:
And what's happend with: http://www.akiba-pc.com ?

[The Stilt]

Finally had some time to upload the pictures :D

http://www.elektroni.fi/Stilt/P5WD2-E_Mods/P5WD2-EP_DDR2VDD.jpg

http://www.elektroni.fi/Stilt/P5WD2-E_Mods/P5WD2-EP_MCHVDD.jpg

http://www.elektroni.fi/Stilt/P5WD2-E_Mods/P5WD2-EP_Vcoredroop.jpg

[Vapor matt]

:clap: very nice mods there, so neatly done aswell, would these mods work on the WS board?

wouldnt mind a droop mod for the WS if anyone has one.

Nice work stilt:toast:

[hicookie]

nice job ,The Stilt::woot:

i wiill remod again:stick: thanks for ur info

[hicookie]

Stilt,where i can measure the voltage?(blue X?) or just wathing the aibooster display?

[markodude]

Good thread, cant wait for my -WS to come here in the UK - have been delayed since Jan :( Thankfully the 975XBX is working OK :)
Keep me posted on the vDroop mod for this board, I may want to do one, I will be using the old pomona test clip and fan header as ground, saves the warranty ;)

[leejsmith]

My p5wd2-e /920d system is starting to reset. The first few times was after i went up from 300fsb to 307fsb 1.435 vcore so i dropped back down to 300 fsb and 1.4125 which has been stable now for a couple of weeks but it's reset twice tongiht while just surfing.
i am going to run a stock for a few days (including the vgpu mod on my vid card) then test ram and then cpu.

[JoeBar]

Nice job The Stilt! :up:

Good thread, cant wait for my -WS to come here in the UK - have been delayed since Jan :( Thankfully the 975XBX is working OK :)
Keep me posted on the vDroop mod for this board, I may want to do one, I will be using the old pomona test clip and fan header as ground, saves the warranty ;)

It's really strange that u don't still have -WS available. Here we have it for nearly 1 1/2 months now.

BTW Vapor matt what bios does your -WS came with?

[The Stilt]

Stilt,where i can measure the voltage?(blue X?) or just wathing the aibooster display?

I´ll post the measure points tonight.

[Vapor matt]

Hi joebar

well the bios my board shiped with was 0301. it seems fine so far with no issues that affect myself.



Hi slackerXL

well iam still waiting on the arrival of my SCSI card to test out SCSI raid O on win XP. the controller is a Adaptec SCSI Card 39320A-R so dual channel.

Iam hopeing it will perform well, but if not i will have to work on it or change OS

will keep you informed when its all up and running.

So far iam pleased with the board, it does have a droop problem but its not as bad as my old 955X board was. i would still like a droop mod if anyone has any idea's.

[Byron]

Vapor Matt,
please keep us posted with results of that raid :D

Good Luck

[JoeBar]

Hi joebar

well the bios my board shiped with was 0301. it seems fine so far with no issues that affect myself.


It's very strange that all our mobos came with 0301, while asus has 0401 as "initial release" on their site... :confused:

[SlackerXL]

Hi joebar
Hi slackerXL

well iam still waiting on the arrival of my SCSI card to test out SCSI raid O on win XP. the controller is a Adaptec SCSI Card 39320A-R so dual channel.

Iam hopeing it will perform well, but if not i will have to work on it or change OS

will keep you informed when its all up and running.


thanks m8
i'd love an update on this one as i'm currently looking for a new controller (preferably a U320 used one)

[Steensen]

Looks nice yoor results.

I'm currently looking for a new setup, and so far, I've chosen to buy a 920, but I don't know, what memmory to buy, and i'm split between buying the P5WD2-E-Premium and P5WDG2-WS MoBo's, and have gotten a lot of inspirration from this threat.

What remains without a clue, is whitch 2GB DDR2 memmory I'm going to buy.
Whitch is the best choise:
the cosair TWIN2X2048-6400 or
the cosair TWIN2X2048-5400C4PRO
Or if youve got a third alternative, please let me know. Thx.

[SlackerXL]

Looks nice yoor results.

I'm currently looking for a new setup, and so far, I've chosen to buy a 920, but I don't know, what memmory to buy, and i'm split between buying the P5WD2-E-Premium and P5WDG2-WS MoBo's, and have gotten a lot of inspirration from this threat.

What remains without a clue, is whitch 2GB DDR2 memmory I'm going to buy.
Whitch is the best choise:
the cosair TWIN2X2048-6400 or
the cosair TWIN2X2048-5400C4PRO
Or if youve got a third alternative, please let me know. Thx.

i got tired of searching for d9'S and Elpida ics
and myself 2x1gb Kingston 533 value ram (mtech chips) for 180$
the do 4-4-4-15 @ 820 mhz - 2.35v SNM & SPi32m stable
and untill i find something worth the $$ i think i'll stick with these....

[Steensen]

Thx SlackerXL.
180US$ not so bad, but I'm not sure, that 820 is enough for "my ego", if you get the point ;)
Since i've got the money for buying the top product, then I also will use them. :D

[The Stilt]

Here are the measuring points for DDR2 VDD and MCH VDD:

http://www.elektroni.fi/Stilt/P5WD2-E_Mods/P5WD2-EP_VDDMeas.jpg

[hicookie]

:woot: thanks,The Stilt!:woot:

:slobber: next step,wait for ur vcoremodding:slobber:

[JoeBar]

i got tired of searching for d9'S and Elpida ics
and myself 2x1gb Kingston 533 value ram (mtech chips) for 180$
the do 4-4-4-15 @ 820 mhz - 2.35v SNM & SPi32m stable
and untill i find something worth the $$ i think i'll stick with these....
That's my point also with DDR2 mem. I've got 2 Transcend 533mhz sticks using Elpida chips and i'm running them @ 735mhz 4-4-4-11 2.15v fully stable. With my previous P5WD2 they could reach 775mhz with the same volts. I know that they can reach easily 800mhz with more vdimm on my -WS.
For me that's more than enough and i can't justify the high price difference for expensive mem. ;)

[paakkis]

Stilt wake up! lets see that vcore mod , same as -p ?

[Vapor matt]

well i have my SCSI raid O up and running! and its fast! dam fast!:banana:

http://img511.imageshack.us/full.php?image=scsiraido8oo.jpg


I did have 2 raptors in raid but the SCSI is alot Faster. The read times are amazing!

PCI-X Adaptec 39320 A-R dual channel.
2 x 15000rpm Atlas II drives in Host raid O

and no they are not noisy! sound no diffrent to my raptors on access noise.
my whole syhstem just seems so snappy now, anything i load just blinks and thats it!

and SCSI is dying! they say mmm shame:nono:

[Byron]

FOOOKIN'ELL!!!!

SCSI POWAH http://img215.echo.cx/img215/2926/21vo.gif

[JoeBar]

well i have my SCSI raid O up and running! and its fast! dam fast!:banana:

http://img511.imageshack.us/full.php?image=scsiraido8oo.jpg


I did have 2 raptors in raid but the SCSI is alot Faster. The read times are amazing!

PCI-X Adaptec 39320 A-R dual channel.
2 x 15000rpm Atlas II drives in Host raid O

and no they are not noisy! sound no diffrent to my raptors on access noise.
my whole syhstem just seems so snappy now, anything i load just blinks and thats it!

and SCSI is dying! they say mmm shame:nono:
Very nice! :up:

[nFo]

Can someone tell me the "best" bios settings when overclocking the Asus P5WD2-E Premium ?

Like this:

Jumperfree configuration:

Performance Mode: Auto, Standard or Turbo ?
PCI Express Frequency: Auto, 90 or between 90-150 ?
PCI Clock: 33.33MHz
FSB Termination: At witch fsb you need to raise the voltage ?
MCH Chipset Voltage: Same question.
ICH Chipset Voltage: ?

Is the: PCI Express Frequency locked ? or not ? :stick:

[PcCI2iminal]

Can someone tell me the "best" bios settings when overclocking the Asus P5WD2-E Premium ?

Like this:

Jumperfree configuration:

Performance Mode: Auto, Standard or Turbo ?
PCI Express Frequency: Auto, 90 or between 90-150 ?
PCI Clock: 33.33MHz
FSB Termination: At witch fsb you need to raise the voltage ?
MCH Chipset Voltage: Same question.
ICH Chipset Voltage: ?

Is the: PCI Express Frequency locked ? or not ? :stick:

i use this settings for 631 @ 4.5ghz+

Performance Mode: Auto
PCI Express Frequency: 100
PCI Clock: 33.33MHz
FSB Termination: auto
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.6-1.65v
ICH Chipset Voltage: auto

[JoeBar]

BTW does someone know what this fsb termination voltage really does?

[I_G]

BTW does someone know what this fsb termination voltage really does?

Controls bus voltage.


The Advanced page starts with the Jumperfree Configuration featuring basically all frequency and voltage settings of interest for overclocking. Of particular interest is what is described nonchalantly as FSB Termination voltage which is the termination voltage of the host bus but, more importantly, also the bus supply voltage. Intel’s specifications allow voltage levels between 0.83 and 1.65 on the termination buffers, however, keep in mind that the voltage is the same as the bus supply voltage, which is limited to a maximum of 1.29 according to Intel’s specifications. We did find that increasing the FSB termination voltage caused the CPU temperature to increase, at least compared to the “Auto” setting. Consequently, also the CPU throttling kicked in earlier and, particularly in graphics applications, the system had a tendency to freeze, followed by ATI’s VPU recovery message blaming ATI’s drivers.

Keep in mind here that the only thing changed was the manual setting of the FSB termination voltage, while all other system parameters remained identical. On the other hand, the strange behavior of misreporting benchmark results could be completely eliminated, with the caveat that higher bus frequencies required higher termination … er, bus supply voltages. In so far, all of this makes sense now. The Prescott with its much better utilization of the bus puts more strain on the bus itself including the clock domains – which, therefore heat up faster and consequently, need more voltage. On the other hand, a higher bus supply voltage also causes the bus to run hotter and, in addition, may cause more passive power drain from the CPU- which consequently will run hotter and throttle earlier.



from here: http://www.lostcircuits.com/motherboard/asus_p5ad2e/8.shtml

[JoeBar]

Thanks for the info m8! :)

[Vapor matt]

any news of a V droop mod for the WS yet guys?:)

although i think the V droop is better on the WS board i do think it would make for a stonking board with a V droop mod.

[Vapor matt]

Hi guys!:banana:

Well today has been mad, first thing this morning i had a frezze:eek: in windows, my mouse frozze and no key board.

so reboots to the same thing after about 10 mins, so after looking into what the hell is going on it looked like the onboard USB controller had started messing around and wasnt detected every time when booting.

my mouse would jump about and if the usb controler wasnt found at boot it was curtains as the only way to get the board back from the dead was to reset cmos and keep your finger on the reset button for about a minite before it would post. all fans would spin up but no boot.

now ive had this board 3 weeks and had no issues, its been running rock solid without ever going down in anyway other than trying to push it to far. For 3 weeks its been perfect! so its scratch my head time, mmm new board maybe mmm well first thing is check the good old PSU power & pc cooling 510sli, and all good. so i started removing my sound card, ram, ect ect. still the same. so short of removing the cpu and GFX card its looking like the board could be fuber!

now ive always noticed the 2 heatsinks to the left behind the GFX card have always run quite hot to the touch. was never happy about this heat even after re seating and getting good contact they run hot. so as a last resort i updated the bios to 0401 from 0301, 0401 is suposed to be the realease bios but mine shiped with 0301 must be pre realese unless there nameing backwards now. anyway after a flash and a reset back to my overclock no more issues:banana:

and those 2 heatsinks that were hot are now just warm to the touch! I was so close to throwing it out the window and swearing at asus :nono:

yet here i am on my rig and all is well, thing is what made it go fuber in the first place? weird stuff have a feeling the bios might have corupted some how but didnt see any checksum error.

and SCSI raid O is the nuts, with all the resets and messing around it still booted first time with no issues! what a test of SCSI raid O:toast:

cheers guys!
just had to pass that on!

[aristidis]

And some mods for the WS. Vdroop and VDD mod.

1. Vdroop

[aristidis]

And vdd...

[Vapor matt]

Oh yes:banana: aristidis

Nice mods! just what ive been waiting for!:toast:


Thanks man, nicely done to:woot:

[crotale]

Stilt wake up! lets see that vcore mod , same as -p ?
Very similar.

http://www.nordiccrew.com/crotale/vmod/vcoremod.jpg

[JoeBar]

Hi guys!:banana:

Well today has been mad, first thing this morning i had a frezze:eek: in windows, my mouse frozze and no key board.

so reboots to the same thing after about 10 mins, so after looking into what the hell is going on it looked like the onboard USB controller had started messing around and wasnt detected every time when booting.

my mouse would jump about and if the usb controler wasnt found at boot it was curtains as the only way to get the board back from the dead was to reset cmos and keep your finger on the reset button for about a minite before it would post. all fans would spin up but no boot.

now ive had this board 3 weeks and had no issues, its been running rock solid without ever going down in anyway other than trying to push it to far. For 3 weeks its been perfect! so its scratch my head time, mmm new board maybe mmm well first thing is check the good old PSU power & pc cooling 510sli, and all good. so i started removing my sound card, ram, ect ect. still the same. so short of removing the cpu and GFX card its looking like the board could be fuber!

now ive always noticed the 2 heatsinks to the left behind the GFX card have always run quite hot to the touch. was never happy about this heat even after re seating and getting good contact they run hot. so as a last resort i updated the bios to 0401 from 0301, 0401 is suposed to be the realease bios but mine shiped with 0301 must be pre realese unless there nameing backwards now. anyway after a flash and a reset back to my overclock no more issues:banana:

and those 2 heatsinks that were hot are now just warm to the touch! I was so close to throwing it out the window and swearing at asus :nono:

yet here i am on my rig and all is well, thing is what made it go fuber in the first place? weird stuff have a feeling the bios might have corupted some how but didnt see any checksum error.

and SCSI raid O is the nuts, with all the resets and messing around it still booted first time with no issues! what a test of SCSI raid O:toast:

cheers guys!
just had to pass that on!
I had the same issues with my board too. :mad:
I believed that it was a bad mobo so i returned back and got a new one 3 days ago and still don't have any freeze issues. The new one came with 0301 bios (like my first) also. I'm going to flash to 0401 also since u got good results.

[Vapor matt]

Hi ya joebar

well in a way iam pleased iam not the only one to have this issue but then again iam not pleased you have had the same thing happen with the dam USB issue. but it was frustrating as the board had been rock solid for 3 weeks. I have noticed 1 thing since the bios update the USB is detected alot faster now, the mouse and keyboard are nearly instant as before they would take a while to initialize when on the start up bios page.

also joe the asus windows update software wouldnt even load on my rig, come up with some strange bios numbers, so flashed it the old fashioned way with a floppy!

has been perfect today without 1 issue, lets hope it stays this way!

[paakkis]

Thanks crotale

[JoeBar]

Hi ya joebar

well in a way iam pleased iam not the only one to have this issue but then again iam not pleased you have had the same thing happen with the dam USB issue. but it was frustrating as the board had been rock solid for 3 weeks. I have noticed 1 thing since the bios update the USB is detected alot faster now, the mouse and keyboard are nearly instant as before they would take a while to initialize when on the start up bios page.

also joe the asus windows update software wouldnt even load on my rig, come up with some strange bios numbers, so flashed it the old fashioned way with a floppy!

has been perfect today without 1 issue, lets hope it stays this way!
I've never used a windows update utility. Call me old fashioned. :)
Used EZ-flash an everything went ok.

[Vapor matt]

Glad to hear it all went ok:D joe, lets hope thats the last we see of the strange USB issue that was with bios 0301!:(

[Vapor matt]

hey joe!

Same thing tonight! dam USB playing up and frezzing in windows again! getting hacked with this board now, may have to get me a new one! GIGA maybe!

USB :mad:

[JoeBar]

hey joe!

Same thing tonight! dam USB playing up and frezzing in windows again! getting hacked with this board now, may have to get me a new one! GIGA maybe!

USB :mad:
Oh no. That's really annoying! :mad:
Mine since i got the new one has yet to give me this prob. What settings have u set in bios regarding usb? Have u enabled legacy usb support?

[Vapor matt]

yes i have tried usb auto and enabled on the legacy option, makes no diffrence! its a pain in the arse now!

[nFo]

Here a new bios: 0403 for the: Asus P5WD2-E Premium :D

http://vip.asus.com/forum/bbs_view.aspx?board_id=1&model_name=all&message_id=20060307130624067&filter=3&page_size=10&elite=0&SLanguage=en-us&topic_page=1&page_cnt=355&recc=3548

File: http://www.savefile.com/files/5289857

Fixed:

Marvell driver reinstall issue.
SATA hot swap.
Memory goes faster ?

[Steensen]

Awsome.
Now I'm convinced, and going to order my speciment of the P5WD2-E Prem. :D
Now I only have to find out, witch dimms to buy. Can't get XMS2 8000UL here in Denmark, and neather the good 2GB kit from Mushkin, so I'm a bit in despair. :(

[Vapor matt]

they have some 8000ul here and will ship to denmark!

http://www.overclock.co.uk/customer/home.php?cat=783

[KingNothing]

What's a possible fsb on this board. 300 should not be a problem?

[JoeBar]

What's a possible fsb on this board. 300 should not be a problem?
300mhz shouldn't be a prob.

[Steensen]

Thx vapor_matt, but they don't have the 2GB kit eather.
'kay, I'll just have to be content with 2*512MB 8000UL :D ;)

[Eastcoasthandle]

Awsome.
Now I'm convinced, and going to order my speciment of the P5WD2-E Prem. :D
Now I only have to find out, witch dimms to buy. Can't get XMS2 8000UL here in Denmark, and neather the good 2GB kit from Mushkin, so I'm a bit in despair. :(


Already ordered the Corsair 2x2048twin PC6400 :)

[Eastcoasthandle]

300mhz shouldn't be a prob.

for me at x14 multi it is a problem. 300 is the max I can get out this board...
I am using PC5400...is that the problem @ FSB 300 @ 800Mhz @ 5-5-5-12-2, 660 x14 @ 4.2, 54C with prime95
I already mem test it and all came back with 0 errors after an hour. What's holding me back?

[Eastcoasthandle]

i use this settings for 631 @ 4.5ghz+

Performance Mode: Auto
PCI Express Frequency: 100
PCI Clock: 33.33MHz
FSB Termination: auto
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.6-1.65v
ICH Chipset Voltage: auto

When you change the MCH CS Voltage to 1.6-1.65 the digits turn red...I guess this is some sort of warning??

[I_G]

Yep, it means out-of-spec.

I run my volts in the red when overclocking but I drop them back into the pink for 24/7.

[KingNothing]

Hi,

I have a small issue with this motherboard. I am running a 920 on it at 4.2GHz, prime95 stable on both cores. The problem is when I want to reboot the system it shuts down. It also does this when I am in the bios and want to save settings and exit (It does save the changes though)

It also has this behaviour when clocking the cpu back to 3.7GHz. What could be the issue here?

[V I P E R]

Did you guys saw the Conroe performance charts?
Anandtech used 975 Intel board, so do you think that Conroe will be compatible with ASUS P5WD2-E Premium?

[JoeBar]

Hi,

I have a small issue with this motherboard. I am running a 920 on it at 4.2GHz, prime95 stable on both cores. The problem is when I want to reboot the system it shuts down. It also does this when I am in the bios and want to save settings and exit (It does save the changes though)

It also has this behaviour when clocking the cpu back to 3.7GHz. What could be the issue here?
Don't worry, it's a common fact with the latest asus intel boards.

[KingNothing]

Oh really, that's quite bad istn it?? Oh well, still got 4.2GHz to play with and maybe there is even more in it :D

[I_G]

Did you guys saw the Conroe performance charts?
Anandtech used 975 Intel board, so do you think that Conroe will be compatible with ASUS P5WD2-E Premium?

I saw a reference to removing three transistors and cutting a trace to make it run on a 975 board. Maybe one of the experts here can detail the modification for us 975 owners??? :D

[I_G]

Oh really, that's quite bad istn it??

Naw, you get used to it. It kinda becomes second nature... :rolleyes:

[V I P E R]

I saw a reference to removing three transistors and cutting a trace to make it run on a 975 board. Maybe one of the experts here can detail the modification for us 975 owners??? :D
That will be good if it is true :).

[Eastcoasthandle]

Hi,

I have a small issue with this motherboard. I am running a 920 on it at 4.2GHz, prime95 stable on both cores. The problem is when I want to reboot the system it shuts down. It also does this when I am in the bios and want to save settings and exit (It does save the changes though)

It also has this behaviour when clocking the cpu back to 3.7GHz. What could be the issue here?

Check to see if you have to many standoffs on the motherboard tray. I know I had to remove 1 for this motherboard. Here is what they look like:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/brassstandoffs.jpg

Also use paper washers on your screws. Sounds to me like you have some sort of electrical short. An experience I personaly dealt with that killed my 478 MB. That's why I take it seriously now! Here is what they look like:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/images-1.jpg

[Steensen]

Hi,

I have a small issue with this motherboard. I am running a 920 on it at 4.2GHz, prime95 stable on both cores. The problem is when I want to reboot the system it shuts down. It also does this when I am in the bios and want to save settings and exit (It does save the changes though)

It also has this behaviour when clocking the cpu back to 3.7GHz. What could be the issue here?

If you read this thread through, then you see, that it's a common fenomenon with the Asus P5 boards.

[KingNothing]

That is very interesting. I have never had any problems with electrical shorts but it would not do any harm to put some paper washers in. I know that I have exactly enough standoffs to fit the motherboard so that cannot be the problem.

EDIT: Reply to Steensen: Yes I now realise that this is a common issue which I will have to live with.

[Steensen]

for me at x14 multi it is a problem. 300 is the max I can get out this board...
I am using PC5400...is that the problem @ FSB 300 @ 800Mhz @ 5-5-5-12-2, 660 x14 @ 4.2, 54C with prime95
I already mem test it and all came back with 0 errors after an hour. What's holding me back?

I've seen a couple SS of this MoBo at ~350 FSB, some with 920's some with 955EE, and a single or two with 6xx cores.
My first shot is, that you have to live with it, since it's a heat problem on your CPU. But I'm not sure. :stick:
Have you flashed to the latest BIOS? There is one, in one of the P5WD2-E threads, thats not released on Asus' HP yet, but still written by Asus engineers.

[Smy]

What is best of these mb:

1:Asus P5WDG2-WS
2:Asus P5WD2-E Premium

[Eastcoasthandle]

I've seen a couple SS of this MoBo at ~350 FSB, some with 920's some with 955EE, and a single or two with 6xx cores.
My first shot is, that you have to live with it, since it's a heat problem on your CPU. But I'm not sure. :stick:
Have you flashed to the latest BIOS? There is one, in one of the P5WD2-E threads, thats not released on Asus' HP yet, but still written by Asus engineers.

Yup, I flashed and still the same resutls...O well, thanks for the input though...

[Vapor matt]

DOH!:slapass:

it was my memory that was giveing me issues not the USB!!!!!! what a twat i am lol, kicks myself up the arse!

memory change and all is well again, had a stick of 8000ul go funny on me! not all this ram is equal it seems, anything better than corsair 8000UL

matt

[Winterwind]

does this mobo support Conroe?
is it worth to buy it and buy Conroe in future?
if it doesnt support Conroe then i dont want it
but if it does then should i give it a try?

:(

[caater]

does this mobo support Conroe?
is it worth to buy it and buy Conroe in future?
if it doesnt support Conroe then i dont want it
but if it does then should i give it a try?
:(

If it supports, asus will announce it when conroe is released.
or mby month before.

[Winterwind]

If it supports, asus will announce it when conroe is released.
or mby month before.

yes but ill have to buy something now and i dont want to spend that much for it if it doesnt support Conroe:D

[caater]

yes but ill have to buy something now and i dont want to spend that much for it if it doesnt support Conroe:D
get el-cheapo 775 mobo then and pd 805 ;)

[nFo]

New bios: 0401 :D

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5WD2-E%20Premium/WD2EP0401.zip

[JoeBar]

DOH!:slapass:

it was my memory that was giveing me issues not the USB!!!!!! what a twat i am lol, kicks myself up the arse!

memory change and all is well again, had a stick of 8000ul go funny on me! not all this ram is equal it seems, anything better than corsair 8000UL

matt
I'll double check mine also.

[paakkis]

New bios: 0401 :D

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5WD2-E%20Premium/WD2EP0401.zip

great this one is faster than 0403 :)

[The Stilt]

does this mobo support Conroe?
:(

Unfortunately not.

[Steensen]

Memory change and all is well again, had a stick of 8000ul go funny on me! not all this ram is equal it seems, anything better than corsair 8000UL

What happened? Only one of the sticks?

[paakkis]

I havent done vmods yet, but looks pretty good anyway FSB 340 (http://mbnet.fi/paakkis/27.969.gif), no droop mod vcore is here and there :D

[Vapor matt]

What happened? Only one of the sticks?

yea just 1 stick, has been fine in my 955x ect and been running great for 4 months, I just didnt think it would be ram as i ran memtest, prime, ect when i first built the rig with this board.

I was convinced it was USB lol:confused:

anyway all is now well and iam back to 1 gig of ram untill i get my rma from corsair. what i really want is 2 X 1g sticks of 8000UL or better but cant find any! or anything better than the corsair!

so if anyone knows anything better please let me know!

[nosto]

New bios: 0401 ?ws or E Premium

[Steensen]

yea just 1 stick, has been fine in my 955x ect and been running great for 4 months, I just didnt think it would be ram as i ran memtest, prime, ect when i first built the rig with this board.

I was convinced it was USB lol:confused:

anyway all is now well and iam back to 1 gig of ram untill i get my rma from corsair. what i really want is 2 X 1g sticks of 8000UL or better but cant find any! or anything better than the corsair!

so if anyone knows anything better please let me know!

I'm allso searching for the 2*1GB 8000UL kit, and perhaps I have found a local source (In the city where I live), but he wasn't shure, if it was 2*512MB og 2*1GB 8000UL he could get a hold of. But I know on Tuesday. :D

New bios: 0401 ?ws or E Premium The FTP link says WD2EP0401 So I would conclude, that its for E MoBo.:fact:

[nFo]

New bios: 0401 ?ws or E Premium

Asus P5WD2-E Premium

[Winterwind]

Unfortunately not.

are you 100% sure? and if you are then how do you know that?

[Eastcoasthandle]

so what does 0401 actually do?
-better OC over 300 FSB
-marvell issue
-what?

[proth]

Had trouble with high FSB and stability on both P5WD2-Es running 9xx CPUs even with Vdroop mod and very loose Ram timings. SP1m max was no higher than 1440. BIOS versions 0206, 0302 and 0403 yielded no results in stability or max FSB. The ASUS site has pulled 0403 and now has 0401 dated 2 weeks earlier and for the first time this rig boots and SP1m stable over 1500 fsb, even with today's warm Jersey temps and CPU temps in the 50s..WooT

Slow CPU OC and very loose 1:1 ram 5,5,5,15
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5439/1500sp0zu.jpg

[The Stilt]

are you 100% sure? and if you are then how do you know that?

Conroe will require few additional voltages. None of the existing motherboards can supply them.

[Winterwind]

Conroe will require few additional voltages. None of the existing motherboards can supply them.
that sure sux:mad:
damn i hate that amd winchester and theres no point of buy anything else right now cos i have tried them all:(

[Drow]

Perhaps the Intel 975X-Board can support the Conroe? It supports the FSB1333. But not sure and nothing guaranteed. It's only a Assumption.

[caater]

Conroe will require few additional voltages. None of the existing motherboards can supply them.
you mean like PM's and p3, eg different voltage for io circuits etc?

[Eastcoasthandle]

Had trouble with high FSB and stability on both P5WD2-Es running 9xx CPUs even with Vdroop mod and very loose Ram timings. SP1m max was no higher than 1440. BIOS versions 0206, 0302 and 0403 yielded no results in stability or max FSB. The ASUS site has pulled 0403 and now has 0401 dated 2 weeks earlier and for the first time this rig boots and SP1m stable over 1500 fsb, even with today's warm Jersey temps and CPU temps in the 50s..WooT

Slow CPU OC and very loose 1:1 ram 5,5,5,15
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5439/1500sp0zu.jpg

WOW,

Proth, you wasted no time in testing that out :D !! Glad to hear that you got your OC striaght. I will try it to as I am having problems at 300 FSB as it will not prime95 at all.

[Eastcoasthandle]

Conroe will require few additional voltages. None of the existing motherboards can supply them.

I don't know but, I cannot see why this cannot be fixed in a bios update...:(

[The Stilt]

I don't know but, I cannot see why this cannot be fixed in a bios update...:(

Will the bios update change the motherboard traces and add few regulator chips for them? :rolleyes:

[The Stilt]

I just noticed that either this board or Presler doens´t like cold that much...
With evaporator temperature any lower than -45c the board won´t even turn on. Only the fans will spin for a second.

When the evaporator temperature raises over -45c, the system will boot just fine.

[Steensen]

Will the bios update change the motherboard traces and add few regulator chips for them? :rolleyes:
If It's "only" voltage, the BIOS can do a lot.
But if it requires FSB1333 (quad pumped), thats an other matter.

[proth]

Will the bios update change the motherboard traces and add few regulator chips for them? :rolleyes:

I hear the chinese are very clever :D

[Drow]

The Intel "Bad Axe" supports the conroe. Look at the review of anandtech:
http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2716
They have tested it with conroe.

[DjLeco]

Drow man:toast: , can U tell me what is the difference between Asus P5WD2E-Premium and BAD AXE?
Wich ASUS MB will support Conroe Processor?
Thanks!

[Drow]

This is the "Bad Axe"-Mainboard made by Intel: "Intel D975XBX "BadAxe".
The exactly test-system can you read in the anandtech-Link in my last post.

[JoeBar]

yea just 1 stick, has been fine in my 955x ect and been running great for 4 months, I just didnt think it would be ram as i ran memtest, prime, ect when i first built the rig with this board.

I was convinced it was USB lol:confused:

I checked mine also m8 and it's rock solid. I run memtest for 2 hours, prime for 4 hours, SuperPi 32MB test free, looping 3dmarks for another one and it's stable as hell with mem running @ 770mhz. :confused:
I don't know what's going on. How often did it happened to u, cause mine happens quite rare, about once a week but that's not standard.

[IluvIntel]

Any P5WD2-E users here overclocking this mobo & owened previous P5WD2 (955X chipset), are you getting any better overclocks with the "E" version of this P5WD2 ?

I'm only asking cause' I installed WC on my Gigabyte 975X mobo and now when I go to turn on first time after fitting it out, nothing hapens - I mean no signs of life, absolutely dead as a dodo !

Thinking it was the power supply, I took it out and installed it in my "old" P5WD2-premium, and everthing lights up and runs - no problems. Yesterday this Gigabyte board was running just fine.... wtf! this after installing H20 cooling. :(

I'm tempted to think how could this mobo just die like that, I checked all plugs and cords, nothing obviously wrong anywhere... :confused:

Now I'm tempted to run out tommorrow and buy one of these Asus mobos, but not sure if this is just a rushed decision. :(

Its a bit of a pity only Intel, Asus & Gigabyte make these 975X chipset based mobos at the moment. :fact:

[JoeBar]

Any P5WD2-E users here overclocking this mobo & owened previous P5WD2 (955X chipset), are you getting any better overclocks with the "E" version of this P5WD2 ?

I'm only asking cause' I installed WC on my Gigabyte 975X mobo and now when I go to turn on first time after fitting it out, nothing hapens - I mean no signs of life, absolutely dead as a dodo !

Thinking it was the power supply, I took it out and installed it in my "old" P5WD2-premium, and everthing lights up and runs - no problems. Yesterday this Gigabyte board was running just fine.... wtf! this after installing H20 cooling. :(

I'm tempted to think how could this mobo just die like that, I checked all plugs and cords, nothing obviously wrong anywhere... :confused:

Now I'm tempted to run out tommorrow and buy one of these Asus mobos, but not sure if this is just a rushed decision. :(

Its a bit of a pity only Intel, Asus & Gigabyte make these 975X chipset based mobos at the moment. :fact:
Have u tried removing the battery for 5 minutes, reinstall it and try again?

[IluvIntel]

Have u tried removing the battery for 5 minutes, reinstall it and try again?

OK, even if that was the problem, surely even just a brief startup would be possible ?

[JoeBar]

If that was the prob it wouldn't even start.

[IluvIntel]

If that was the prob it wouldn't even start.

I've never seen that before, what, only a tiny battery stopping even the smallest amount of power from running through the system ?

When I re-installed the 630 with air cooling back on the P5WD2, it did'nt need this kind of treatment...-)

[JoeBar]

I've never seen that before, what, only a tiny battery stopping even the smallest amount of power from running through the system ?

When I re-installed the 630 with air cooling back on the P5WD2, it did'nt need this kind of treatment...-)
Haven't u ever been on a situation that your mobo needs clearing the cmos to bring it back from the dead?

[IluvIntel]

Haven't u ever been on a situation that your mobo needs clearing the cmos to bring it back from the dead?

Yeah, I've done that on my Asus P5P800 and this Gigabyte mobo when overclocking too high, but the Gigabyte always fired up before not acutally booting hence my reaction - but I can't recall ever doing it on the Asus P5WD2....hmmmmm, might give it a go in the morning and see what hapens, but for now I'll just crusie around in the "old" P5WD2-premium. :banana:

Thanks for the tip, joebar. ;)

[JoeBar]

No prob m8! Hope it'll solve your prob. :)
Just remember to remove the power cable before doing this.

[Vapor matt]

Any P5WD2-E users here overclocking this mobo & owened previous P5WD2 (955X chipset), are you getting any better overclocks with the "E" version of this P5WD2 ?



hi, well i wouldnt rush out and buy the asus ws version of the 975X my board has got some serious issues, again its doing this no post thing! has been fine for 4 to 5 days then this morning for 3 hours then bang reset itself and now wont post, after numerous resets and cmos clearing it still wont post yet all the fans spin ect.

wish i had kept my trusty 955X now as this has ben nothing but trouble, infact i was just going to ask about the Gigabyte 975X board!

I also need PCI-X aswell because my SCSI card will run full speed, there seems to be alot of failures with the new asus boards when it comes to this slow boot and marvell not working ect ect

before that giga board died was it performing well?

[simplyadvanced]

I just noticed that either this board or Presler doens´t like cold that much...
With evaporator temperature any lower than -45c the board won´t even turn on. Only the fans will spin for a second.

When the evaporator temperature raises over -45c, the system will boot just fine.


i'm getting that too. its really irritating... :mad:

[Steensen]

Any P5WD2-E users here overclocking this mobo & owened previous P5WD2 (955X chipset), are you getting any better overclocks with the "E" version of this P5WD2 ?

I'm only asking cause' I installed WC on my Gigabyte 975X mobo and now when I go to turn on first time after fitting it out, nothing hapens - I mean no signs of life, absolutely dead as a dodo !

Thinking it was the power supply, I took it out and installed it in my "old" P5WD2-premium, and everthing lights up and runs - no problems. Yesterday this Gigabyte board was running just fine.... wtf! this after installing H20 cooling. :(

I'm tempted to think how could this mobo just die like that, I checked all plugs and cords, nothing obviously wrong anywhere... :confused:

Now I'm tempted to run out tommorrow and buy one of these Asus mobos, but not sure if this is just a rushed decision. :(

Its a bit of a pity only Intel, Asus & Gigabyte make these 975X chipset based mobos at the moment. :fact:

Take the MoBo out of the cabinet, at try booting it laying on a towel or so.
I might just be a short circuit, and since you had the MoBo out of cabi, to mount the WC, then it is very possible.
If that's not the answer, then try dismounting the WC, and try booting it again with Air cooling.

[IluvIntel]

hi, well i wouldnt rush out and buy the asus ws version of the 975X

The only retailer in OZ, that is listed on staticice website is in Western Australia and wants A$440 for it !
The PCI-X would be excellent for serious performance Raid, but apart from that it looks and from what I can tell, performs the same as the "E" version.
Sorry to hear about your problems with it, by the way what MoBo revision is it?


wish i had kept my trusty 955X now as this has ben nothing but trouble, infact i was just going to ask about the Gigabyte 975X board!

I was nearly going to sell the Vcore modded P5WD2 premium on ebay, but I figured - no, hang on to it... cause' you never know... ;)


there seems to be alot of failures with the new asus boards when it comes to this slow boot and marvell not working ect ect


Would that be on the 1st versions of the mobo ? eg: v1.00 etc


before that giga board died was it performing well?

Yes, it was a great overclocker on air compared to the P5WD2-premium Vcore modded, which I still have and are typing this now on that. :)
The active cooling of NB and CPU's surrounding components with 4 x 40cm fans was a bit on the noisey side and the PCI slots should have been placed outside of the 2 x PCIe CF slots. But otherwise a good overclocking board for Cedar mill core, The Vcore droop however from what I have heard compared to the Asus P5WD2-E is a bit worse. However as we all know, a Vmod will fix that. ;) This is with Version 1.00 mobo

[IluvIntel]

Take the MoBo out of the cabinet, at try booting it laying on a towel or so.
I might just be a short circuit, and since you had the MoBo out of cabi, to mount the WC, then it is very possible.
If that's not the answer, then try dismounting the WC, and try booting it again with Air cooling.

Thats what came to my mind straight away when it looked like Doom (no pun intended ! :D ) for this new setup. I did boot successfully before with the WC system installed, but wanted to see how far it could overclock on air & warm air too. Which was pretty high, relatively speaking.

There are some other "minor" issues with this board that I find over time get a little annoying which I have listed in the above post to Vapor matt.
I really want to get it running on WC (asetek extreme waterchill system) as we still have warm sunny days down here for this time of year & I got no A/C in the room. :(

I have just pre-ordered the Asus mobo, so will see what hapens now...

[I_G]

Is there a backing plate that the threaded rods screw into?

http://www.freepgs.com/benderda/wc.jpg

It took me over a week and an RMA to figure out what I thought was a 'cold bug' on my mobo was actually a short. I finally realized that it would always boot, unless the evap head had been attached. I thought it was from the cold, but when I tried to boot with the evap head on and the temp at 29C I realized I had a different problem. Turns out that a couple of the cap leads coming out the back of the board could have been clipped a little shorter. They were poking into the foam, and once the head was attached the spring pressure was pushing them all the way through so that they were making contact with the metal backing plate, which was making contact with the threaded rods, which were making contact with the motherboard tray...

[IluvIntel]

Is there a backing plate that the threaded rods screw into?

http://www.freepgs.com/benderda/wc.jpg

It took me over a week and an RMA to figure out what I thought was a 'cold bug' on my mobo was actually a short. I finally realized that it would always boot, unless the evap head had been attached. I thought it was from the cold, but when I tried to boot with the evap head on and the temp at 29C I realized I had a different problem. Turns out that a couple of the cap leads coming out the back of the board could have been clipped a little shorter. They were poking into the foam, and once the head was attached the spring pressure was pushing them all the way through so that they were making contact with the metal backing plate, which was making contact with the threaded rods, which were making contact with the motherboard tray...

I got the same waterblock you got in the picture & there are rather think plastic washers that insulate the metal pins from the mobo when installing the block on the Gigabyte, both front & back, I had to file down a bit of the copper block itself because the clearance just above some caps was just too fine when mounted properly.
But still... she don't show no signs of life...kaput ! one month use and gone ! :(

Back to Asus ! ;)

It will probably boot up just fine going back to air....ironic.

[Steensen]

It will probably boot up just fine going back to air....ironicThat is wat we are trying to tell you, that if that's the case, then you've made a short, when mounting the WC, with or without the nilon washers. :cord:
The thing about you grinding some copper of the CPU head, that also makes me think even more, that theres has been created a short. :stick:

[JoeBar]

hi, well i wouldnt rush out and buy the asus ws version of the 975X my board has got some serious issues, again its doing this no post thing! has been fine for 4 to 5 days then this morning for 3 hours then bang reset itself and now wont post, after numerous resets and cmos clearing it still wont post yet all the fans spin ect.

wish i had kept my trusty 955X now as this has ben nothing but trouble, infact i was just going to ask about the Gigabyte 975X board!

I also need PCI-X aswell because my SCSI card will run full speed, there seems to be alot of failures with the new asus boards when it comes to this slow boot and marvell not working ect ect

before that giga board died was it performing well?
Why don't u rma the board? My second WS is far more stable till now compared to the first, even if it's the same revision (1.02G). What's yours?

[Byron]

could you define the "more stable compared to the first" JoeBar? :D

cheers

[Vapor matt]

Hi joebar

well my board is revision 1.02G aswell, came with bios 0301, yet asus say 0401 is release bios. for the first 3 weeks it was fine, then it started this booting and frezzing issue, flashed bios and all's well for 4 days and bam after running perfect for 4 hours it resets itself and wont post, reset cmos and still nothing, leave it switched on for 20 mins and beep its posts, but wont let you enter bios.

reset again and in bios you go, reset all your settings F10 and no post, even when you load bios defaults. I flashed to bios 0401 last weekend and all has seemed fine, apart from the odd mouse glitch, thats when i know its about to do its non post on retsrt and we then spend the next 2 hours of reseting cmos and eventuly it will post but its back to the same routien of reste, after reset, then leave power on and eventualy it will post.

a couple of strange post messages apperad after the first crash, one being cant load NV ram not enough disk space, and the other saying 00 mass storage device not detected! real weird considering before first crash it never said that ever!

I have no mass storage device for one, and whats NV ram? not enough disk space mean?

hopefully the new one will be better and i can rma this board back to asus

joe you mentioned your first board had issues, can you describe the issues you were haveing mate?

cheers!

matt

[JoeBar]

could you define the "more stable compared to the first" JoeBar? :D

cheers

joe you mentioned your first board had issues, can you describe the issues you were haveing mate?

cheers!

matt

When i bought my first WS all was nice for 2 weeks. No probs whatsoever. After 2 weeks one day i power up my sys and nothing happens (fans spinning but the sys won't start) for 1 hour it was giving me hard time just to boot into windows. That happened only one time.
After 1-2 days this stange prob comes in, on various ocassions (from installing a prog, to 3d benching) and for no reason my pc just froze. After 3-4 times that happened to me during 3d apps i noticed that while it froze, the fan on mh x1900 was still spinning @ higher speeds like it was still benching. I kept this board fo another 3-4 days with this prob coming and going. I returned it for a new one and things seem very stable till now.
Both boards were rev 1.02G and both had 0301 bios installed (i updated it to 0401).

[lowbid]

Hi guys....i have been reading this thread and i have a WS board.I did not like it no freezing or other issues just not a good overclocker.I found it to run its best at 320 fsb x 15 vcore 1.5250 this is on phase cooling and 4-74gb. raptors in raid 0 for 3weeks and ran all benchmarks but not 24/7 just a few hours a day.The i went to my p5wd2-e pre.and i like it much better just as stable and overclocks better than my p5wd2 pre.All of them have the vdrop but i can live with that and the cold boot as you all know.Running at 340 fsb x15 fsb 1360 @3224

presler 955 es
psu silverstone 650
ati 1900xtx
4-512 corsair 8000ul @ 3224
many fans

[JoeBar]

I've tested my WS @ 325mhz fsb without probs.

[IluvIntel]

That is wat we are trying to tell you, that if that's the case, then you've made a short, when mounting the WC, with or without the nilon washers. :cord:

Oh you don't say. :rolleyes: I was answering I G post about the pins ! :slapass: besides, waterblock is not touching any caps or any other SMDs. :fact:

[QUOTE=Steensen]
The thing about you grinding some copper of the CPU head, that also makes me think even more, that theres has been created a short. :stick:

How did you interpret "CPU head" out of "waterblock" ? I am talking about the asetek waterblock, definately not "CPU head" :stick:

[Steensen]

[QUOTE=Steensen]That is wat we are trying to tell you, that if that's the case, then you've made a short, when mounting the WC, with or without the nilon washers. :cord:

Oh you don't say. :rolleyes: I was answering I G post about the pins ! :slapass: besides, waterblock is not touching any caps or any other SMDs. :fact:



How did you interpret "CPU head" out of "waterblock" ? I am talking about the asetek waterblock, definately not "CPU head" :stick:
When I say "CPU-head", I meen CPU water block.

[Vapor matt]

ok new cpu is up and running! so back to 4.4g but would like some awnsers on the ram side of things, iam useing corsair 8000ul

i can get 4.3.3.4.4 at 467mhz or 5.4.4.8.4 at 580mhz 2.3v now ive seen faster with these sticks but it wont have cas 3 at all, so whats best?

[kakaroto]

Does anyone know where the measure point for Vcore is on this board?

[Eastcoasthandle]

My P5WD2-E Prem also reads 1.02G. Found in front of the 1st memory slot just below the wording P5WD2-E
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/P5WD2-E%20Prem/EZ_PLUG1.jpg

[crotale]

I just noticed that either this board or Presler doens´t like cold that much...
With evaporator temperature any lower than -45c the board won´t even turn on. Only the fans will spin for a second.

When the evaporator temperature raises over -45c, the system will boot just fine.
My board POSTs just fine at -100C. Unfortunatly, the CPU took damage by too much voltage and started to dislike the cold. Will try colder temps next week.

Does anyone know where the measure point for Vcore is on this board?
Measure vcore at the CPU side of one of the coils. (blue spots)

http://www.nordiccrew.com/crotale/p5wd2readout.jpg

[kutujambak]

sorry for OOT question..
does anyone have p5wd2 premium BIOS?
can u share the link?

[paakkis]

sorry for OOT question..
does anyone have p5wd2 premium BIOS?
can u share the link?

Link (http://238.afraid.org:238/BIOS%5FP5WD2%5FPremium/)

[kutujambak]

Link (http://238.afraid.org:238/BIOS%5FP5WD2%5FPremium/)

thx,,,btw which is da best 4 my p5wd2 board?

[Athens[2004]]

One noobish question :D , i must apply both 4pins or just the one ?

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/8653/asusp5wd2epremium060321017vl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[crotale]

One works. Connect both if you have the connectors for it.

[PcCI2iminal]

']One noobish question :D , i must apply both 4pins or just the one ?

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/8653/asusp5wd2epremium060321017vl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


i use a 8pins conector (Antec True 550 and Zippy 600w) but i had no problems using 4pins conector(Enermax 600)

[Xyriu]

Hi, can anyone help me for this three questions?

1. what are the best setting (freq/timings) for Corsair 6400 2x1GB (on the P5WD2-E Prem.)
2. can I use the FSB at 300Mhz (1200) daily?
3. what's the safest maxium vcore for an D920? (cooled by Big Typhoon and YS Tech 120, 2500RPM. ~50°C in load @4.2Ghz and 1.45V from BIOS)


Thanks!

bye

[PcCI2iminal]

Hi, can anyone help me for this three questions?

1. what are the best setting (freq/timings) for Corsair 6400 2x1GB (on the P5WD2-E Prem.)
2. can I use the FSB at 300Mhz (1200) daily?
3. what's the safest maxium vcore for an D920? (cooled by Big Typhoon and YS Tech 120, 2500RPM. ~50°C in load @4.2Ghz and 1.45V from BIOS)


Thanks!

bye

1- 800-850mhz @ 4-4-4-4 @ 2.1-2,3v? try and tell us
2-Yep
3-keep under 1.5v with good cooling

[adeoliver]

I was planning on getting a WS because of the droop in my E, but now after Ive read this thread I think Im just going to do the Droop mod that Stilt has posted. Lots of good reading, and lots of good info.
But just for kicks should I just mod my current board or should I take a leap to the WS and probably mod it as well?

[PcCI2iminal]

I was planning on getting a WS because of the droop in my E, but now after Ive read this thread I think Im just going to do the Droop mod that Stilt has posted. Lots of good reading, and lots of good info.
But just for kicks should I just mod my current board or should I take a leap to the WS and probably mod it as well?


get the mods done and keep the "E" for better and stable OC

[adeoliver]

get the mods done and keep the "E" for better and stable OC

Thanks. :D So a droop mod would be the better way to go overall huh. Great news thanks again.

[Xyriu]

1- 800-850mhz @ 4-4-4-4 @ 2.1-2,3v? try and tell us
2-Yep
3-keep under 1.5v with good cooling


Thank you! ;)

For the first question, what's the vMEM limit for a daily use? I try to touch they at 2.1V during SPI32MB andt they're nearly cold...


Ah, last thing, when active "Hyper Path 3" system won't boot :confused:

[Donni]

Hi@all

new bios 0405 , pls test it with Conroe Cpu ? :D

ftp://ftp.asus.de/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5WD2-E%20Premium/0405.zip

[Donni]

Hi@all

new bios 0405 , pls test it with Conroe Cpu ? :D

ftp://ftp.asus.de/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5WD2-E%20Premium/0405.zip


EDIT : bios is for C0 Step. for Pentium D (960D,965XE) :rolleyes:

[Eastcoasthandle]

EDIT : bios is for C0 Step. for Pentium D (960D,965XE) :rolleyes:
are you 100% sure about that

[Donni]

are you 100% sure about that

ohh , sry no C0 , its C1 ! ;) and yes , i am 100% sure..

http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLanguage=en-us