The Emperor

[gigi77]

After Stop Production Samsung IC TCCD

GEIL have produced this NEW IC CODENAME: EMPEROR

Specification DDR 500 2.5/4/4/7

capable to High Perfomances to DDR400 at DDR600

[gigi77]

Configuration

FX-57
Zalmann 9500
Dfi Nforce4 Sli-dr and Expert
2x512 GEIL ULTRA-X Series 2.5-4-4-7
6800GS By Club 3d


Bios 623/3
Settings

CPC = Enabled
CAS Latency(CL) = 2.5
RAS to CAS(Trcd) = 4
Min RAS# Active time(Tras) = 7
Row Precharge Time(Trp) = 4
Row Cycle Time(Trc) = 7
Row Refresh Cycle Time(Trfc) = 15
Row to Row Delay(Trrd) = 2
Write Recovery Time(Twr) = 2
Write to Read Delay(Twtr) = 2
Read to Write Delay(Trwt) = 3
Refresh Period (Tref) = 3210
Write CAS Latency(Twcl) = 1
DRAM Bank Interleave = Enabled
Skew = AUTO
Skew Value = 0
DRAM Drive Strength = auto
DRAM Data Drive Strength = auto
Max Async Latency = 8ns
Read Preamble Time = 5ns
Dram time = Normal
Idle Cycle Limit = 16
Dynamic Counter = Enabled
R/W Queue Bypass = 16x
Bypass Max = 7x
32 byte Granularity = Disable(4burst)

[gigi77]

First test Air

Spi 16mb

280Mhz 2.5-4-4-7

http://images2.pictiger.com/images/f5/14ab5e615354fd99756993a0715526f5.png[/URL]

[[XC] DragonOrta]

DDR500 @ 2.5-4-4-7? Is this going to be budget performance RAM or what?

[gigi77]

290 2.5-4-4-7

http://images2.pictiger.com/images/fb/76607b4ac903da9d7c99ee2425b233fb.png

[gigi77]

DDR500 @ 2.5-4-4-7? Is this going to be budget performance RAM or what?


Budget Ram with Best Perfomances!

360° perfomances... i'am on tests:)

[gigi77]

300mhz :D 2.5-4-4-7 2.92v

http://images2.pictiger.com/images/4a/67ef9287c15db0e3af17c7ea7d78134a.png

:slobber:

[[XC] moddolicous]

This looks like some pretty good ram. Are those the tightest timings?

[metro.cl]

I'm testing the same modules, this is a new type of chip so not really sure how it is supposed to be tuned, this are my tccd settings.

275 2.5-4-3-7 windows memtest ok
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/8039/geilespc4000275tight2tk.jpg[/URL]

same sp32m ok
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/8506/geilespc4000275tightsp32m0pz.jpg[/URL]


290 2.5-4-3-7 sp8m ok
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/70/geilemperorpc400029025437kl.jpg[/URL]

i've seen tighter results wait for them to be posted (270 2-3-3-7)

[gigi77]

:) Nice scores Metro!

[gigi77]

300 Mhz Stability

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4311/300015nv.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6053/30032mbgeil6hd.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Coroner Kyle]

Looks like some pretty good ram as long as the IC's being shipped are this good.

@ Gigi: Crank up that multi ;)

[gigi77]

Looks like some pretty good ram as long as the IC's being shipped are this good.

@ Gigi: Crank up that multi ;)


Nice IC and Nice Results i think is possible attack 310Mhz with more voltages!
This ram like voltages up to 3.0v ;)

[gigi77]

Memtests

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4909/memtests8lk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[KODE]

Nice results there, congrats! :toast:

Judging by your progress I think you would be able to reach 310 after fine tuning your system.

Good luck!

[celemine1Gig]

Nice results, but GEIL won't ever produce an IC on their own. It sure is an IC that's already available on the market, but noone realized that it was capeable of such high clocks. Then GEIL bought the ICs and rebadged them. I wouldn't call that "GEIL have produced this NEW IC CODENAME: EMPEROR". I'd rather say "GEIL labled a new IC named EMPEROR". :D

[Cpt Twitchy]

Any idea how these do at 2.5-3-3-X? even 2.5-4-3-X would be good to know as 2.5-4-4-7 isnt very fast.

[metro.cl]

Any idea how these do at 2.5-3-3-X? even 2.5-4-3-X would be good to know as 2.5-4-4-7 isnt very fast.


look up a bit i got 290 2.5-4-3-7 so far i'll test more but im having temp problems (room temp around 40°C) is :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing hot right now in the middle of the summer

[ianocean]

Any idea how these do at 2.5-3-3-X? even 2.5-4-3-X would be good to know as 2.5-4-4-7 isnt very fast.

I don't know about CAS 2.5 but CAS 2.0 doing pretty well on my PC

http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/624/ddr5400gg.jpg

[Cpt Twitchy]

Yeah metro taht is inanely hot.

ianocean very good looking there.

Anyone know who mfg's the ic?

[gigi77]

Go UP 310Mhz PI 1MB.....

http://images3.pictiger.com/images/bd/7e8d85c3bac80b09ea218c767bcfaabd.png (http://www.pictiger.com/)

[ianocean]

And fast 275mhz 2-3-3-7

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1392/emp2757cx.jpg

[Bluebeard]

also available in 1GB sticks?

which IC they use...hmmm..... :rolleyes:

[4Qman]

275Mhz Cas2.

Looking like some sweet ram.:eek:

[DioSpada]

Have the GEIL ULTRA-X PC4400 CAS 2.5-4-4-8 the same chip of PC4000 ???

Thanks
Andrea

[S!1v3rB@cK_Dk]

Wow, 275MHz 2-3-3-7!! Thats sick!

[high5]

Have the GEIL ULTRA-X PC4400 CAS 2.5-4-4-8 the same chip of PC4000 ???

Thanks
Andrea
no, they're TCCD AFAIK.

[DioSpada]

Are you sure HIGH5 ??? Because hier in ITALY there are some new.....And I have order it but i wolud like to know if this new have TCCD or oder chip with PC4000...

Thanks

[DioSpada]

What does it mean TCCD AFAIK ???

[high5]

AFAIK = As Far As I Know.

:lol:

[gigi77]

Have the GEIL ULTRA-X PC4400 CAS 2.5-4-4-8 the same chip of PC4000 ???

Thanks
Andrea


Ultra-X pc4400 have IC Samsung TCCD.

This IC have name EMPEROR! :)

ATTACK 305Mhz DDR610 Go UP


http://images3.pictiger.com/images/cc/0cb3b2ae5f550b7b876ebe176d767ecc.png

http://images3.pictiger.com/images/a2/9f8d7686f33dbb8609290bf2557ae6a2.png

[DioSpada]

Ciao GIGI...Ti scrivo in italiano così ci capiamo meglio....Senti, ma queste GEIL ULTRA-X sia PC4000 che PC4400 hanno chip SAMSUNG TCCD con IC EMPEROR ma sempre TCCD sono ???? Ho capito bene ???
Dovrei metterle su MSI K8N NEO2 NF3 ad alameno 280-285 MHZ...Che tengano CAS 2.5-4-3-8 almeno ???
O prendo le G.SKILl FX ???

Grazie

[gigi77]

ciao Dio Spada,
ti mando un pvt, in Xtremesystems Forum only english please.

luigi

[DioSpada]

Ops !!!!! Ok.....

[DioSpada]

I wait your PVT in this Forum GIGI77....

Thanks

[ianocean]

Have the GEIL ULTRA-X PC4400 CAS 2.5-4-4-8 the same chip of PC4000 ???

Thanks
Andrea

No this is not TCCD like Ultra X PC4400.It's not even Samsung IC

[FireDragon]

So then what is it someone call geil and ask them i am sure that hey will say hell track there orders lol...

Dragin

[targ]

So then what is it someone call geil and ask them i am sure that hey will say hell track there orders lol...

Dragin

i got my samples from geil. and a i have been told is they are a new IC, exclusive to Geil and so they have called it Emperor, its not made by Sammy, i know that tho.

targ

[DaWaN]

Well, I think TCCD is still better.... How much do they cost ?? TCCD does 300mhz 2,5-3-3-8 and this stuff only 310mhz 2,5-4-4-8 and 270 2-3-3-8. UTT and TCCD are still better. I think those chips are Hynix. Or maybe Mosel.

[metro.cl]

Well, I think TCCD is still better.... How much do they cost ?? TCCD does 300mhz 2,5-3-3-8 and this stuff only 310mhz 2,5-4-4-8 and 270 2-3-3-8. UTT and TCCD are still better. I think those chips are Hynix. Or maybe Mosel.


as far as we know samsung is goin to stop tccd chips, this ones are an alternative :) this should be cheaper than samsung ics (around usd150 if nothing changes) i fixed my mobo problems and im goin up :)

295 2.5-4-4-7 sp16m passed memtest ok also.

trying to get 300 stable in windows

[ozzimark]

as far as we know samsung is goin to stop tccd chips, this ones are an alternative :)
if it wasn't for the fact that i've heard that about 20x now, and it always comes back, i'm gonna have to take that comment with a grain of salt

also, definitly not micron.. they're easily identifiable anyway :D

as a side note, can we some pics of this stuff?

[DaWaN]

as far as we know samsung is goin to stop tccd chips, this ones are an alternative :) this should be cheaper than samsung ics (around usd150 if nothing changes) i fixed my mobo problems and im goin up :)

295 2.5-4-4-7 sp16m passed memtest ok also.

trying to get 300 stable in windows

I'm not interrested in DDR1 anymore. I'm looking forward to 800mhz Micron DDR2 that would kick every DDR1's ass !! Btw Fatbody D9's are already doing that, but Intel is still on their Netburst architecture, when the good Yonah and Conroe and AM2 boards/cpu arrive, DDR1 is dead

[metro.cl]

if it wasn't for the fact that i've heard that about 20x now, and it always comes back, i'm gonna have to take that comment with a grain of salt

also, definitly not micron.. they're easily identifiable anyway :D

as a side note, can we some pics of this stuff?

here you have

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/1461/dsc07250li.th.jpg (http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc07250li.jpg)
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/8152/dsc07245pu.th.jpg (http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc07245pu.jpg)


Finally after fixing a mobo issue i got ddr 600 :)

http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/2633/2952544716m1dh.jpg
http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/8946/3002544716m1jq.jpg

[targ]

http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/266/31032m251tq.jpg

a little teaser to my review coming next week, at some point...

targ

[DioSpada]

So this RAM can I use for Daily Use @ 285MHZ CAS 2.5-4-4-8 and for benchmark @ 270MHZ CAS 2-3-3-7 with my MSI K8N NEO2 NF3 ???
What voltage can I use MAX ??? 3V ???? Require an activ cooling this RAM ???

[gigi77]

nice Result for This IC, is not Hynix, not Mosel Not Tccd!

DDR 620Mhz SHOW UP

http://images3.pictiger.com/images/45/b0f7937a2770a9c4b3aa7731297e8245.png (http://www.pictiger.com/)



http://images3.pictiger.com/images/df/5bd4bde016f74ca5775720cc571d7fdf.png (http://www.pictiger.com/)

[gigi77]

So this RAM can I use for Daily Use @ 285MHZ CAS 2.5-4-4-8 and for benchmark @ 270MHZ CAS 2-3-3-7 with my MSI K8N NEO2 NF3 ???
What voltage can I use MAX ??? 3V ???? Require an activ cooling this RAM ???


Not Request Active Cooling! :slobber:

:)

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

good results it seems to me. you guys got to remember, the more competition in the market, the cheaper the prices, and better the products :D maybe these will take on some of ocz's offerings? right now, seems ocz and ballistix got a hold on the DDR1 high perfomance/density market.

anyone else notice that the pcb looks kinda short? and you cant see any of the chips bottoms. maybe its an ic with bga package? wouldnt be the first ram from geil to use a ic with bga package, pop the spreaders?

[nachthymnen]

nice Result for This IC, is not Hynix, not Mosel Not Tccd!

DDR 620Mhz SHOW UP

http://images3.pictiger.com/images/45/b0f7937a2770a9c4b3aa7731297e8245.png (http://www.pictiger.com/)



http://images3.pictiger.com/images/df/5bd4bde016f74ca5775720cc571d7fdf.png (http://www.pictiger.com/)


Very impressive!!!
I want it!!!:slobber:

[high5]

anyone else notice that the pcb looks kinda short? and you cant see any of the chips bottoms. maybe its an ic with bga package? wouldnt be the first ram from geil to use a ic with bga package, pop the spreaders?
its BrainPower PCBs, nothing strange there. ICs are not BGA, better pics were posted in another thread:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=87154

they're looking similar to Hynix, so it could be ProMOS ICs.

and one more thing... ATM no-one can claim they don't need cooling and that running them @3V is safe. only time will tell... just like in Ballistix case.

[targ]

I wondered about active cooling, so i got my Fluke 52 out...

Opty 148 @ 3.0Ghz
11 x274 2-3-3-6 3.15v

Air temp 15c
Case temp 20c
Temp of ram 22c

ram temp was taken under the heatspreader next to the IC...

i see no need for active cooling. :woot:

targ

[high5]

ram temp was taken under the heatspreader next to the IC...

i see no need for active cooling. :woot:

targ
what do you mean by 'next to the IC'? on the PCB?

could you measure the HS temp?

[DioSpada]

Is dangerous a voltage of 3V-3.1V on this RAM or not ???
I Can set it to 270x10 CAS 2-3-3-6 with my OPTERON 146....Or 285 CAS 2.5-4-4-8......Are they a good Ram ???

[gigi77]

Is dangerous a voltage of 3V-3.1V on this RAM or not ???
I Can set it to 270x10 CAS 2-3-3-6 with my OPTERON 146....Or 285 CAS 2.5-4-4-8......Are they a good Ram ???


not dangerous!:)

[DioSpada]

What chip have their at the end ??? Mosel ??

The timings 2.5-4-3-7 are difficult to obtain around 280MHZ ???

TNX
GIGI

[gigi77]

Not MOSEL!
it's SECRET!

luigi

[DaWaN]

its BrainPower PCBs, nothing strange there. ICs are not BGA, better pics were posted in another thread:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=87154

they're looking similar to Hynix, so it could be ProMOS ICs.

and one more thing... ATM no-one can claim they don't need cooling and that running them @3V is safe. only time will tell... just like in Ballistix case.

Yes I bet on Hynix too, it looks just like some D43 bit a little bit better, maybe just a new rev D43

[high5]

possible... just checked Hynix website, rev. E of their 32M×8 ICs is listed there.

[metro.cl]

What chip have their at the end ??? Mosel ??

The timings 2.5-4-3-7 are difficult to obtain around 280MHZ ???

TNX
GIGI


look at the first page i got 290 2.5-4-3-7 3.0v :)

[targ]

what do you mean by 'next to the IC'? on the PCB?

could you measure the HS temp?

sry i should have explained...
i put the probe under the headspreader (between the spreader and the PCB), in the spaces between the ICs.

that make much more sence?

the outside of the heatspreader was 21.8 iirc

targ

[high5]

yeah, i get it now... :D

[ianocean]

Yes I bet on Hynix too, it looks just like some D43 bit a little bit better, maybe just a new rev D43
Hynix D43-i don't think so.I think i could run those babes at 280Mhz 2-3-3-7 1T-->just need little time to tweak.No one Hynix D43 or TCCD can run at such timings/speed (at price twice cheaper than TCCD).Anyway i will try to proove my words :stick:

[gigi77]

GEIL ULTRA and Club 3d x1900xtx 200mhz 2.3.2.0 vga stock speed


http://images3.pictiger.com/images/5f/f3f8e3c270fe82478d239db511bd125f.jpg (http://www.pictiger.com/)

[gigi77]

200 2.3.2.0

http://images3.pictiger.com/images/4b/cf0d84a346ef49379bb0e0d982e2004b.jpg (http://www.pictiger.com/)

[gigi77]

in italy shop is sure!

[gigi77]

ANY PROBLEMS

270 2.3.3.7

http://images3.pictiger.com/images/12/737280e8fbccf39ddf67162130478012.jpg (http://www.pictiger.com/)


300 2.5-4-4-7

http://images3.pictiger.com/images/07/421369ff3db25d0f5999c8ae33518307.jpg (http://www.pictiger.com/)

[Rolf]

Where can I get them? In Germany? Or are these Sticks not released yet?

[[XC] Jaco]

please give us a link where to buy these ;)
German Online shop or something

[[XC] Jaco]

GiGi,

I just ordered a set of these GEIL DDR500 ULTRA (http://www.alternate.de/html/shop/productDetails.html?artno=IAID8I&)

I hope this is the good stuff :D

[Simani]

GiGi,

I just ordered a set of these GEIL DDR500 ULTRA (http://www.alternate.de/html/shop/productDetails.html?artno=IAID8I&)

I hope this is the good stuff :D

Make sure you have PNxxxx-SN6xxxxxxxxx
That means 2006 product line.

[ahmad]

If they like more volts, thats awesome. I just wonder how long they will survive with that kind of juice..

If they are not like TCCD, that would be awesome. But one thing is, seems like these don't scale as well as TCCD? I mean TCCD goes quite a distance from trcd of 3 to 4. You did 2-3-3 at 270, and 300 at 2.5-4-4... with quite a bit of volts too.

Maybe a good replacement for TCCD, but would it be a worthy successor?

My best results with TCCD were 2.5-4-3 at 300MHz and 2.50v. If you can best those timings, I am there.

[[XC] Jaco]

Maybe a good replacement for TCCD, but would it be a worthy successor?

My best results with TCCD were 2.5-4-3 at 300MHz and 2.50v. If you can best those timings, I am there.

How much do you pay for good TCCD sticks ??
These sticks are dirt cheap and still performing great !!

Price/performance wise these are prolly better than TCCD

[ianocean]

I push them up to sweet 278 Mhz 2-3-3-7 1T 3.1v with my new Opty 148
Those babies is something between legendary BH-5 and TCCD
They like the tight timings and 3.0+ volts like BH-5 and high FSB's like TCCD


http://img307.imageshack.us/img307/838/278mhz0os.jpg

[Simani]

If they like more volts, thats awesome. I just wonder how long they will survive with that kind of juice..

If they are not like TCCD, that would be awesome. But one thing is, seems like these don't scale as well as TCCD? I mean TCCD goes quite a distance from trcd of 3 to 4. You did 2-3-3 at 270, and 300 at 2.5-4-4... with quite a bit of volts too.

Maybe a good replacement for TCCD, but would it be a worthy successor?

My best results with TCCD were 2.5-4-3 at 300MHz and 2.50v. If you can best those timings, I am there.

Well, How much you paid for your TCCD? 200USD atleast.
Those GeIL 500 cost me 150 USD only.

[ianocean]

Higher bandwidth.....306 Mhz at 2.5-4-4-7 1T
That's the emperor :D
http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/4972/ddr6129ej.jpg
Bye bye TCCD :stick:

[ahmad]

Well, How much you paid for your TCCD? 200USD atleast.
Those GeIL 500 cost me 150 USD only.

I actually got those for $190 CDN (which is about... $165 US atm).

[gigi77]

Coming up new Tests :)

[DioSpada]

Why can't Use my new GEIL ULTRA-X PC4400 with MSI NEO2 NF3 more than 250MHZ 1:1 ??? I'm instable at more frequences....Isn't compatible with this Mboard ???

[gigi77]

Why can't Use my new GEIL ULTRA-X PC4400 with MSI NEO2 NF3 more than 250MHZ 1:1 ??? I'm instable at more frequences....Isn't compatible with this Mboard ???

you not have emperor IC, you have tccd IC ;)

[Bad Boy]

I was able to overlock memory at 450 with 1.5-3-3-5 timings. //Default timings are 2.5-4-4-7, or something like that // ;)

In case A64 is not showing correct valueas, I giving bios numbers.

CPU FSB 225
Voltage 1.45V (propably could be lower...)
DIMM 2.8V

Tcl-1.5
Trcd-3
Tras-5
Trp-3
Trc-7
Trrd-2
Twr-2
Twtr-2
Trwt-2

http://symantec.times.lv/Emperor/225-1%201.5-3-3-5.JPG

http://symantec.times.lv/Emperor/225-2%201.5-3-3-5.JPG

http://symantec.times.lv/Emperor/225-3%201.5-3-3-5.JPG

http://symantec.times.lv/Emperor/225-4%201.5-3-3-5.JPG

http://symantec.times.lv/Emperor/225-5%201.5-3-3-5.JPG

[Bad Boy]

Is dangerous a voltage of 3V-3.1V on this RAM or not ???
I Can set it to 270x10 CAS 2-3-3-6 with my OPTERON 146....Or 285 CAS 2.5-4-4-8......Are they a good Ram ???


I even tryed to feed this memory with 3.5 Volts of energy :) End now they are still working, so basicaly.. YES this is good one form GEIL. But in this chips I got feeling, that the lover voltahe the better memory likes it, not like some Winbond UTT chips who required a LOT of voltage.

[[XC] Jaco]

TTCD ?? you mean Winbond UTT (requires high vdimm)

TCCD on the other hand doesn't like high voltage at all.

[Bad Boy]

TTCD ?? you mean Winbond UTT (requires high vdimm)

TCCD on the other hand doesn't like high voltage at all.

Yeah, sorry, was in a hurry this morining. Ofcourse I ment Winb UTT :)

[DioSpada]

For GIGI77 ??? My new GEIL ULTRA-X are not EMPEROR but TCCD ??? Are you sure ??? The serial is: PN1730-SN6000012....

I Have crash of the system "riavvio" in Italian, if i use PRIME 95....It's stable .only with 166 divisor and RAm at 250MHZ CAS 2.5-3-3-7 or 2.5-4-4-7.....Il i set SPD the timigns are 2.5-3-3-5...Are TCCD my ram ???

Why can't i use at more frequences with MSI NF3 ???

Thanks

[[XC] Jaco]

I'm not sure I've got a set of these Emperor modules :
PN 1799 SN6000069

SPD timings are 232MHZ 2-5-5-9 / 250 2,5-5-5-9

Can anyone confirm ?

[ianocean]

I'm not sure I've got a set of these Emperor modules :
PN 1799 SN6000069

SPD timings are 232MHZ 2-5-5-9 / 250 2,5-5-5-9

Can anyone confirm ?
Yes this must be Emperor..have fun :toast:

[[XC] Jaco]

thanks Ianocean, but I don't have much luck with these Geil sticks.
I guess I must have a setting wrong.

trp = 2 is a no go , 2-3-3-6 is the best it can do.
I can't boot over 220Mhz with cas2.

I'm currently testing 260Mhz 2,5-4-3-7 2,84vdimm.
drive strength 7 / 3 gives best stability (or so it seems )

See screenshot for the settings.

[ianocean]

@Jaco boost the VDimm up to 3.0v -seems that voltage is sweet spot...but use some active cooling

[metro.cl]

max async at 7 is pretty tight also might wanna try 8

[[XC] Jaco]

Thanks for the tips, guys.
I've got 265Mhz 2,5-4-3-7 @ 3,0v 95% stable (error after 2h30m prime )

The sticks get really hot at 3,0v , even with active cooling.
I'm giving them a solid burn-in , hoping for a few mhz extra :D

[ianocean]

@Jaco...an advise do not burn it over 2.95v and do not exceed 3.1-3.15 when benching

[Bad Boy]

Well, I was able to get till 295Mhz and runing sure stable.
But before you say 295 Mhz is lame - look ar the NUMBERS of Super PI calucaltion (it`s faster, then some guys could do on 30X Mhz) and for example Everest REad performance, and memory latency. :) Only stuff, I would like to beter Write performance of the memory.

Propably you could somehov give me idea, how to improve this performance? Oh yeah.. memory voltage 3.0.

P.S: Tryed even 3.5Volts on stick.. they are still runing and no smoke :) LOL

http://symantec.times.lv/Emperor/295-1Mhz-2.5-4-4-7.JPG
http://symantec.times.lv/Emperor/295-2Mhz-2.5-4-4-7.JPG
http://symantec.times.lv/Emperor/295-3Mhz-2.5-4-4-7.JPG
http://symantec.times.lv/Emperor/295-4Mhz-2.5-4-4-7.JPG
http://symantec.times.lv/Emperor/295-5Mhz-2.5-4-4-7.JPG

[Aleman]

Any NEWEGG Link for these STICKS?

[[cTx]Philosophy]

very impressive so far..
Will be interesting to follow
I myself ordered some cronus team xtreem, but these also look pretty good..

[targ]

thanks Ianocean, but I don't have much luck with these Geil sticks.
I guess I must have a setting wrong.

trp = 2 is a no go , 2-3-3-6 is the best it can do.
I can't boot over 220Mhz with cas2.

I'm currently testing 260Mhz 2,5-4-3-7 2,84vdimm.
drive strength 7 / 3 gives best stability (or so it seems )

See screenshot for the settings.

yeah the Emperor doesnt do trp 2.

but with 2.5 it flies.

targ

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Looks like some interesting DIMMS. Any word on pricing?

[gigi77]

:) not bad results.

go UP

luigi

[Coroner Kyle]

I picked up a set. I like them, but have not played with them too much. I will try them out and post some SS.

gigi77: What's the highest you got them to run a cas2 and could I see your settings at that speed for the bios? I've run them through memtest at 2-3-3-6 at 260, but not in windows yet where it really matters. And if you did not already do so could you post your 300 timings for bios. Please. :) Thanks again.

[gigi77]

My 300mhz timings with dfi nf4
:)
Luigi

CPC = Enabled
CAS Latency(CL) = 2.5
RAS to CAS(Trcd) = 4
Min RAS# Active time(Tras) = 7
Row Precharge Time(Trp) = 4
Row Cycle Time(Trc) = 7
Row Refresh Cycle Time(Trfc) = 15
Row to Row Delay(Trrd) = 2
Write Recovery Time(Twr) = 2
Write to Read Delay(Twtr) = 2
Read to Write Delay(Trwt) = 3
Refresh Period (Tref) = 3210
Write CAS Latency(Twcl) = 1
DRAM Bank Interleave = Enabled
Skew = AUTO
Skew Value = 0
DRAM Drive Strength = auto
DRAM Data Drive Strength = auto
Max Async Latency = 8ns
Read Preamble Time = 5ns
Dram time = Normal
Idle Cycle Limit = 16
Dynamic Counter = Enabled
R/W Queue Bypass = 16x
Bypass Max = 7x
32 byte Granularity = Disable(4burst)

[Bad Boy]

My 300mhz timings with dfi nf4
:)
Luigi



What about memory and CPU voltage? Can you provide some morde details. :confused:

[targ]

my personal 300-305mhz settings are:

CPC = Enabled
CAS Latency(CL) = 2.5
RAS to CAS(Trcd) = 4
Min RAS# Active time(Tras) = 7
Row Precharge Time(Trp) = 4
Row Cycle Time(Trc) = 7
Row Refresh Cycle Time(Trfc) = 14
Row to Row Delay(Trrd) = 2
Write Recovery Time(Twr) = 2
Write to Read Delay(Twtr) = 2
Read to Write Delay(Trwt) = 3
Refresh Period (Tref) = 3210
Write CAS Latency(Twcl) = 1
DRAM Bank Interleave = Enabled
Skew = AUTO
Skew Value = 0
DRAM Drive Strength = 7
DRAM Data Drive Strength = 3
Max Async Latency = 8ns
Read Preamble Time = 6ns
Dram time = Normal
Idle Cycle Limit = 16
Dynamic Counter = Enabled
R/W Queue Bypass = 16x
Bypass Max = 7x
32 byte Granularity = Disable(4burst)

@ 3.05V vdim and 1.55V vcore on my 148 opty @ 300x10

HTH
targ

[kakaroto]

Gigi77: How does Trp @3 reacts on your memory?

[metro.cl]

got ddr600 with somehow tight alphas at 3.0v

i've had a lot of work on college and little time i'll try more soon, room temp was "high" i'll try more volts and lower room temps

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/2364/geilesemperorsp32mddr600b6of.jpg (http://imageshack.us)