View Full Version : Those on phase no cold bug please post here
chew*
01-22-2006, 12:28 PM
Gonna make a data base so I need people on phase to post in this format. Oc's and cpu type are not needed so please just post in this fashion >>>>> Highlighting the 3rd and 4th and what temps you run at.
ONLY 90NM cpu's please. Also cpu temps not evap temps. Please dont post 0 degree core temps most cold bugged cpu's can do that easily. Also as steven pointed out these are benchable cpu's at these temps that we want posted not screenshot cpu's. *EDIT* I started adding cpu's that did bug for comparison purposes.
BC code
s7e9h3n CABCE - none
fatty CABCE -20 idle
BF code
BG code
K404 CABGE no coldbug down to -30 idle
PoL CABGE -27º
Kesnel CABGE -34c
thorlite CABGE -25 >bugged
eldonko CABGE no cold bug to -32C <-cant function under dice
eldonko CABGE no cold bug to -32C <-cant function under dice
BH code
El Snorro CABHE -25 cpu temp, no bug so far
Chew* LDBHE -56
Chew* LDBHE -10
Desertshooter LDBHE -32
Absolute 0 CDBHE -20
s7e9h3n AABHE - none
s7e9h3n ADBHE - none
s7e9h3n ADBHE - none
BI code
PoL CBBID -41º
fatty CBBID -20
BL code
s7e9h3n CBBLE - none
s7e9h3n CBBLE - -90c
s7e9h3n LBBLE - couldn't test that low at the time, but ~-27C was fine
kiwi LBBLE -40C
BN code
ThorLite CABNE idle -28C, load -4C, bugged at idle temps and htt >305
Ozan Baseski CABNE - (-28°C)idle
chefnr1 CABNE -69 idle measured on side of IHS
tarrcm CABNE ice -50C idle/-24C load = BUG
DUMO CABNE -68
Ben805 CABNE -25
Kesnel CABNE -29c
BW code
DesertShooter CCBWE -30 CPU Temp
del_fuego CCBWE Works down to -26
PoL CCBWE -26º
stone_cold_Jimi CCBWE bugs below -26C and above 255 HTT.
Eldonko CCBWE no cold bug to -32C. Dice testing next week.
Ben805 CCBWE -25
Thorlite CCBWE -28
s7e9h3n ACBWE -35C
kiwi LBBWE, idle -35C, load -20C, bugged at idle temps
mr lobber CBBWE 0530TPMW, idle -45C, load -30C (coldbugs at -50)
thorlite CCBWE 0522 TPMW idles fine in windows at -27
the stilt CCBWE -35 (can't try colder?)
misteroadster CCBWE -Cold bug @ 355HT -5° cpu.
BY code
kiwi CABYE idle -27C, load -5C, bugged at idle temps and htt >325
boblemagnifique CABYE -55 max htt 270 though....
boblemagnifique CABYE -30°
tarrcm CABYE phase -30C idle/-6C load = no bug ice not tested yet
Desertshooter CABYE -25
C-Buzz CABYE -40
Kesnel CABYE -30c
thorlite CABYE -25 > bugged
B2 code
rekin CAB2E Bugged
Dogimann KAB2E Bugged
Kesnel CAB2E bugged around -10c
the stilt CAB2E Coldbugged even at -10c
funkflix CAB2E coldbugged at +14°C
K404 CAB2E Bugged at -25 idle and still bugged at -5 loaded
CJ code
Dogimann CACJE Bugged
Dynasty CACJE -10 C in bios temp > bugged
DesertShooter
01-22-2006, 12:35 PM
X2 3800+ @-32 (no coldbug)
LDBHE 0543SPMW
Opteron 148 @-25 (no coldbug)
CABYE 0540FPBW
Absolute_0
01-22-2006, 12:35 PM
3800+ X2
300x10 1.53volts
CDBHE
I've seen idling temps as low as -20C and load temps around -1C (windows).
Narrow down your criteria...Most 90nm will boot ok with -59C universal evaporator temp. (equal to -25ish cpu core temp in bios)
CABNE -97C evap/-68C bios core temp...
Fhqwhgads6680
01-22-2006, 12:52 PM
I tried starting a database a while back, there should be some results in there.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=85406&highlight=90nm+cold+bug
I hadn't heard of this new information at the time and was trying to collect some data on the coldbug, if the stepping information posted by freecableguy and steven is true this could really help. Good luck! :toast:
chew*
01-22-2006, 01:05 PM
Hmm I just read that thread......Afires's CABNE bugged at -15. So this isnt necessarily going to tell us how cold you can go but more of a negative temps bootable database. I still think it's luck of the draw how low you can go but this may aid in guaranteeing being able to boot with negative temps.
Unfortuately DUMO the averages of people with phase that does -59 or lower cpu temps is small. I'm trying to prove or disprove this theory as far as negative temps go though as some people cant even boot at -10. Of course there will always most likely some rare cpu's that break the trend.
ben805
01-22-2006, 01:21 PM
Opteron 148 CABNE 0528 GPMW
Opteron 170 CCBWE 0546 XPMW
Both of them don't have cold bug on my single stage @-48C' evaporator.
chew*
01-22-2006, 02:03 PM
Opteron 148 CABNE 0528 GPMW
Opteron 170 CCBWE 0546 XPMW
Both of them don't have cold bug on my single stage @-48C' evaporator.
Ben im going to go out on a limb and say that core temps are roughly -30 to -25C
C-BuZz
01-22-2006, 02:13 PM
Opteron 146 CABYE 0540 FPBW
Evap -60c/Core -40c. Lowest I saw on the core was -42c. Havent seen coldbug yet.
http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=384196&page=20&pp=15
C-BuZz
ThorLite
01-22-2006, 02:20 PM
Opteron 170 CCBWE 0550 UPMW,DFI Ultra D CPU idles fine at -28(DFI MBM5 reading) in windows at 312x10 1.48V........
Opteron 146 CABYE 0540 FPBW
Evap -60c/Core -40c. Lowest I saw on the core was -42c. Havent seen coldbug yet.
http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=384196&page=20&pp=15
C-BuZz
What's your max HTT -40 core? Me opteron 146 0540 cabye will do around 330HTT with -25 in mbm, max 355HTT -10 mbm. Stock mach II.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/loc_oc/24-7HTTtemp.jpg
s7e9h3n
01-22-2006, 02:33 PM
DUMO CABNE -68
Ben805 CABNE -25
From the looks of this discrepancy, I have a feeling that you'll have to get a little more specific with the details of the cpu. It's usually safe to assume that cpu's built on better wafers are binned higher. So taking that theory, I'd imagine the difference between Ben's cpu and Dumo's is roughly the difference between a CABNE Opty 146/48 and either one of Dumo's FX57's or an exceptional Opty 150+ cpu. Also, there's a HUGE difference between RUNNING @ a certain temperature vs. taking a screenshot at that temp. Try to narrow down the specifics and your results should group themselves ;)
ben805
01-22-2006, 02:34 PM
Ben im going to go out on a limb and say that core temps are roughly -30 to -25C
yupper.....around -25C' core.
chew*
01-22-2006, 02:43 PM
From the looks of this discrepancy, I have a feeling that you'll have to get a little more specific with the details of the cpu. It's usually safe to assume that cpu's built on better wafers are binned higher. So taking that theory, I'd imagine the difference between Ben's cpu and Dumo's is roughly the difference between a CABNE Opty 146/48 and either one of Dumo's FX57's or an exceptional Opty 150+ cpu. Also, there's a HUGE difference between RUNNING @ a certain temperature vs. taking a screenshot at that temp. Try to narrow down the specifics and your results should group themselves ;)
Yah steve but this isn't the official database :) I'll leave that to someone else. I'm just trying to test your theory a little and see what we get for negative temp cpu's. give it a couple days so we have a larger look at it.
s7e9h3n
01-22-2006, 03:04 PM
Yah steve but this isn't the official database :) I'll leave that to someone else. I'm just trying to test your theory a little and see what we get for negative temp cpu's. give it a couple days so we have a larger look at it.
Ok, np, but I would think it's kinda hard to get a true bearing of what the "functional" temp is of a certain stepping of some people are just posting "windows bootable" temps while others are posting "spi stable" temps :2cents:
Here's my contribution (off the top of my head....I have quite a few more, but just can't remember all of them without digging through my old pics :p: )
Spi Stable:
CABCE - none
AABHE - none
ADBHE - none
ADBHE - none
CBBLE - none
CBBLE - -90c
LBBLE - couldn't test that low at the time, but ~-27C was fine
ACBWE - ~-35C
CAB2E - didn't even bother...lol
Edit: OOPS I think I posted in the wrong format....all the ones that say none are non-cold bugged. If you want, I can try to find exact core temps, but I have a feeling it may be lower than you're planning to go anyway.....;)
Kesnel
01-22-2006, 03:09 PM
Only one of my 90nm has bugged on my Mach II GT.
These are the lowest I've tested to. At no point have a seen a bug, except on the CAB2E. The chips with the higher temp I just simply couldn't run any cooler on my single stage, it's not that they bug there.
(3700) CABGE: -34c
(146) CABNE: -29c
(144) CAB2E: bugged around -10c
(146) CABYE: -30c
chew*
01-22-2006, 03:22 PM
Well i categorized them by theorized revision. Earlier memory controllers have lower alphabetized steppings. Now maybe you can see where i'm going with this.
simonk
01-22-2006, 08:51 PM
Mach 2 GT X2 4800 -37C also FX 55 -31 & 57 -31 no cold bug. Will have FX60 tomorrow, will report then.
C-BuZz
01-22-2006, 11:00 PM
What's your max HTT -40 core? Me opteron 146 0540 cabye will do around 330HTT with -25 in bios, max 355HTT -10 bios. Stock mach II.
had it at 330htt but the core was around -35 at that time.
C-BuZz
chew*
01-23-2006, 12:24 AM
Mach 2 GT X2 4800 -37C also FX 55 -31 & 57 -31 no cold bug. Will have FX60 tomorrow, will report then.
Nice cpu's to bad we dont need models :fact: We need steppings..........Please read first post in full next time.
fatty
01-23-2006, 02:50 AM
FX-57 3.5 gig 1.58v -8 100% load -20 idle (needs more R507)
CABCE 0522 XPMW
Will be building a cascade over the next few months if I keep hold of the FX I will stick it under that
s7e9h3n
01-23-2006, 02:56 AM
FX-57 3.5 gig 1.58v -8 100% load -20 idle (needs more R507)
CABCE 0522 XPMW
Will be building a cascade over the next few months if I keep hold of the FX I will stick it under that
That thing needs some 402 :p:
Dynasty
01-23-2006, 03:43 AM
148 CACJE @ -10 C in bios temp > bugged
Venice LBBLE, idle -40C, load -25C, no coldbug (excpet RAM dividers 166+ not working but the same was on air @ htt >300)
Venice LBBWE, idle -35C, load -20C, bugged at idle temps (had to run prime)
mrlobber
01-23-2006, 04:34 AM
Opteron 170 CBBWE 0530TPMW, idle -45C, load -30C under dry ice, 3D benchable at 3300 mhz and 300+ HTT :toast:
Coldbug kicks in at ~ -50C in bios.
ThorLite
01-23-2006, 07:58 AM
A64 4400 CCBWE 0522 TPMW idles fine in windows at -27.
Opteron 144 CABGE 0536 VPMW and CABYE 0536 GPMW over 345HTT instant freeze in windows when temp goes lower -27 and if bios temp is lower -25 over 345 cant load windows both of them same behaviour.Below 335 HTT no cold bug when sitting idle in windows.........
fatty
01-23-2006, 10:00 AM
another under my mach2
CBBID 0501 DPMW runs aboot -20 idle -10ish clocked to 2.9
The Stilt
01-23-2006, 10:33 AM
Opteron 175:
CCBWE 0550UPMW
Coldbug free atleast up to -35c (can´t try any colder)
Opteron 148:
CAB2E 0547GPMW
Coldbugged even at -10c.
s7e9h3n
01-23-2006, 01:33 PM
Opteron 175:
CCBWE 0550UPMW
Coldbug free atleast up to -35c (can´t try any colder)
I find that very hard to believe ;)
chew*
01-23-2006, 01:59 PM
Been busy answering pms will update shortly as its time consuming.
chew*
01-24-2006, 09:40 PM
BUMP for more steppings............
CAB2E Opto 144 0540 FPMW
Bugged at -25 idle and still bugged at -5 loaded.
Had postive temps through deliberate bad contact to try and clear it but nothing great. Couldnt pass 255x9 at any temp.
funkflix
01-25-2006, 08:10 AM
No subzero her, but my CAB2E 0546GPAW coldbugged at +14°C ... :slapass:
Revv23
01-25-2006, 08:17 AM
looks like BL is the best one...
@Funkflix: OW!
@Revv....I got to that conclusion as well....the search has started :) I had a Venice BL 3500+ that only did 2.6 under air...600+Mhz under phase would be a nice boost :)
Eldonko
01-25-2006, 09:37 AM
Opti 150 CABGE 0534 SPMW no cold bug to -32C
San Diego 3700+ CABGE 0515 no cold bug to -32C
Both fine under single stage even at stock volts and no heat tweeks but cant function under dice.
MaxxxRacer
01-25-2006, 09:52 AM
Interesting. BY seems to be doing pretty well under phase. I need fo find someone who has phase around my house.
Hey charlie, mind if I come over to simi sometime?
misteroadster
01-25-2006, 02:53 PM
CCBWE 0536 MPMW Opteron 165 Cold bug @ 355HT -5° cpu.
chew*
01-25-2006, 03:39 PM
Updated, Keep them coming thx.
s7e9h3n
01-25-2006, 04:14 PM
It seems for the most part, that the opties tend to have the cold-bug kick in @ higher temps than the regular a64's/Fx's of the same memory controller rev. That may be of something to note ;)
chew*
01-25-2006, 05:06 PM
It seems for the most part, that the opties tend to have the cold-bug kick in @ higher temps than the regular a64's/Fx's of the same memory controller rev. That may be of something to note ;)
agreed steven..better silicon i'm guessing...which you already said
Revv23
01-25-2006, 05:46 PM
It seems for the most part, that the opties tend to have the cold-bug kick in @ higher temps than the regular a64's/Fx's of the same memory controller rev. That may be of something to note ;)
very much so agreed, ijt would be interesting to know why an opty cabne cant go nearly as cold as an FX cabne.
It seems to me a fast die that would end up in an FX doenst always mean that it will take the cold, just look at all these FX stepping opterons that cant touch the temps that the majority of FX's are able to take. Perhas there is more to amd binning hten we once thought.
s7e9h3n
01-25-2006, 05:50 PM
very much so agreed, ijt would be interesting to know why an opty cabne cant go nearly as cold as an FX cabne.
It seems to me a fast die that would end up in an FX doenst always mean that it will take the cold, just look at all these FX stepping opterons that cant touch the temps that the majority of FX's are able to take. Perhas there is more to amd binning hten we once thought.
Ive said this before, but here it is once again:
The s939 "Opties" aren't true Opterons like the s940 server/workstation cpu's from AMD. Instead, these s939 versions are a means for AMD to rid themselves of any "extra" San Diego cores they have left. The fab process is moving to dual cores only and the new E6 "single core" Diegos reflect this change (dual core with one core disabled)....
Revv23
01-29-2006, 05:48 AM
fair enough, but why bother with dual core opties if you are just clearing out stock?
s7e9h3n
01-29-2006, 12:15 PM
fair enough, but why bother with dual core opties if you are just clearing out stock?
Same reason why they don't just sell these Opties as regular Diegos ;) - people will buy it just because it's an Opteron. Also, it increases their market share in single-cpu workstations since in the past, the 1xx series of s940 Opterons didn't do as well as hoped......
tarrcm
02-05-2006, 08:18 PM
Opti 148 CABYE 0543 FPMW
phase -30C idle/-6C load = no bug
ice not tested yet
FX57 CABNE 0530 APMW
phase -36C idle/-14C load = no bug
ice -50C idle/-24C load = BUG:(
stone_cold_Jimi
02-05-2006, 10:17 PM
x2 3600 E6 CCBWE 0546UPMWcold bugs below -26C and above 255 HTT.
By reducing the LS fans to 30%, I can mostly keep the core at a degree or two above the bug at boot time - booted 277 HTT this way. Needs a load once booted, else it locks up and/or BSODs if it gets down to -26C above 255.
Dumo was right - evap needs to be above -37C for this to work.
Eldonko
02-05-2006, 11:50 PM
Opti 165 CCBWE 0550 UPMW no cold bug to -32C. Dice testing next week.
El Snorro
02-06-2006, 04:24 AM
4000+
CABHE 0505fpmw
Cooled by mach2 to -25 cpu temp, no bug so far :)
Winnie 3500+ CBBID ----------> -41º
Sandy 3700+ CABGE -----------> -27º
Manchester 3800+ CCBWE -----> -26º
Only tried on dice the winnie. Will post results on the sandy + dice within a coupple of weeks.
cdelong
02-06-2006, 05:39 AM
good info
del_fuego
02-06-2006, 08:17 AM
Testing a 4400+ CCBWE 0543TPMW with a stock LS at the moment:
Works down to -26 (MBM)/Evaporator -51 with no probs.
Cheers, del.
EDIT: Im sure it would work at colder temps but -26/-27 is a low as i can go.....
stone_cold_Jimi
02-06-2006, 12:09 PM
Manchester 3800+ CCBWE -----> -26º
Isn't that really a Toledo? I thought Manchesters were LDBHE and Toledos CCBWE; mine is Toledo and bugs at -26C hmmm nice consistency if so.
s7e9h3n
02-06-2006, 12:22 PM
Isn't that really a Toledo? I thought Manchesters were LDBHE and Toledos CCBWE; mine is Toledo and bugs at -26C hmmm nice consistency if so.
CCBWE = Toledo
EDIT: I think people are starting to catch on now ;)
Isn't that really a Toledo? I thought Manchesters were LDBHE and Toledos CCBWE;
Well, actually I think it's a Toledo with half of L2 disabled, labled as a Machester E6. :)
mine is Toledo and bugs at -26C hmmm nice consistency if so.
Well, it doesn't show a bug, it just shows that is unbugged at -26º. haven't been able to try lower temps yet. ;)
s7e9h3n
02-06-2006, 12:30 PM
Well, actually I think it's a Toledo with half of L2 disabled, labled as a Machester E6. :)
All 2x512k L2 Cache X2's will identify as "Manchester", but what core is actually under the IHS can be figured out by the stepping info. You're right - it is a Toledo with 1/2 cache disabled - so technically, it's not a TRUE Manchester ;)
boblemagnifique
02-06-2006, 12:57 PM
148 cabye 0528 gpmw -> -30° -> 329.9x11 (3629mhz)
fullup3
02-06-2006, 01:17 PM
So the famous cabne 0530 apmw opteron doesn't coldbug badly.
I am in the process or contemplating phase change? I have heard and read mixed things about this, and would like to hear of someone that has seen one of these on phase.
chefnr1
02-06-2006, 01:32 PM
FX57 CABNE 0530APMW -69 idle measured on side of IHS ,load -64 -65 on DI and benchable 3803mhz at 271x14 and 253x15
All 2x512k L2 Cache X2's will identify as "Manchester", but what core is actually under the IHS can be figured out by the stepping info. You're right - it is a Toledo with 1/2 cache disabled - so technically, it's not a TRUE Manchester ;)
Well, what I wanted to say, bug just didn't find the right words... :p:
s7e9h3n
02-06-2006, 02:07 PM
Well, what I wanted to say, bug just didn't find the right words... :p:
I see you're still having problems..lol...:toast:
stone_cold_Jimi
02-06-2006, 02:09 PM
After something I read, I think of Toledos (CBBWE) as 2x San Diego cores and Manchesters (LDBHE) as 2x Venice cores. The reason I point this up is that, in keeping with the thread title, I haven't seen any cold-bugged LDBHEs mentioned so far. I think. Out of Sandy's and Venices, we know which ones cold bug.. just wish I'd tried a LDBHE now (BH still ruling?
What complicates matters with x2 3800s is that both the E4 (BVBOX) and E6 (CDBOX) are now sold as BVBOX, according to the AMD website. It's pot luck what you get, in other words. Unless it's just a typo.
s7e9h3n
02-06-2006, 02:16 PM
After something I read, I think of Toledos (CBBWE) as 2x San Diego cores and Manchesters (LDBHE) as 2x Venice cores. The reason I point this up is that, in keeping with the thread title, I haven't seen any cold-bugged LDBHEs mentioned so far. I think. Out of Sandy's and Venices, we know which ones cold bug.. just wish I'd tried a LDBHE now (BH still ruling?
What complicates matters with x2 3800s is that both the E4 (BVBOX) and E6 (CDBOX) are now sold as BVBOX, according to the AMD website. It's pot luck what you get, in other words. Unless it's just a typo.
BH indeed seems to be the most resiliant to the cold.
RE: the BV vs. CD issue - Don't let the OPN (the first line) confuse you. Basically, if you ignore what's written on that line and just look to the first five letters of the second line, your findings will be the same.....
BH indeed seems to be the most resiliant to the cold.
RE: the BV vs. CD issue - Don't let the OPN (the first line) confuse you. Basically, if you ignore what's written on that line and just look to the first five letters of the second line, your findings will be the same.....
You can always let CPUZ tell you what your chip is, either an E6 or an E4.
But Steve, are you saying that there are some BV that are E6? (and some CD that are E4?)
s7e9h3n
02-06-2006, 02:54 PM
You can always let CPUZ tell you what your chip is, either an E6 or an E4.
But Steve, are you saying that there are some BV that are E6? (and some CD that are E4?)
No...I think we're talking about two different things - you're talking about the OPN of the cpu and the cpu revision.
I'm talking about the stepping info on the cpu and the memory controller revision....
No...I think we're talking about two different things - you're talking about the OPN of the cpu and the cpu revision.
I'm talking about the stepping info on the cpu and the memory controller revision....
mm.. OK. Now I get what you said. ;)
Ozan Baseski
02-06-2006, 04:06 PM
A64 FX57 - CABNE 0530 APMW (-28°C)idle , (-20) load : No signs of coldbug yet but we'll try LN2 testing and try to control the temperatures and give the Ln2 really slowly
EDIT: I think people are starting to catch on now ;)Good:toast:
Basically theres 3 different A64 90nm cpus....single or dual cores
1. Cpu that can run >270htt with SS @-40C evap. temp.(+/- 25C bios), but only can run up to 230HTT with -90C evap.(+/- 65C bios). This chip usually will run up to 255/260HTT with -75C evap.(dry ice).
2. Cpu thats bug free for all temps...from -40C to -105C and colder evap. temp @ any HTT/Multi.
3. Cpu that only can run 240htt max with SS @-37C and won't even post @-61C:(
All single with ACPI multi....
DesertShooter
02-07-2006, 12:03 AM
My 3800+ X2 CCBWE 0548RPMW has no coldbug @ -30 CPU Temp :) (300x10 no problem)
Eldonko
02-07-2006, 07:56 AM
Good:toast:
Basically theres 3 different A64 90nm cpus....single or dual cores
1. Cpu that can run >270htt with SS @-40C evap. temp.(+/- 25C bios), but only can run up to 230HTT with -90C evap.(+/- 65C bios). This chip usually will run up to 255/260HTT with -75C evap.(dry ice).
2. Cpu thats bug free for all temps...from -40C to -105C and colder evap. temp @ any HTT/Multi.
3. Cpu that only can run 240htt max with SS @-37C and won't even post @-61C:(
All single with ACPI multi....What about the ones that wont post under single stage? I had an opti 148 like that. The lowest HTT I tried was 150 though so I suppose it could fit in cat 3.
s7e9h3n
02-07-2006, 10:07 AM
What about the ones that wont post under single stage? I had an opti 148 like that. The lowest HTT I tried was 150 though so I suppose it could fit in cat 3.
I guess there needs to be a category for the cpu's that bug @ or above 0C.....
I guess there needs to be a category for the cpu's that bug @ or above 0C.....It doesnt need hsf :)
Btw, what cooling that can be set @-36 idle and -33C load? LN2 with timed pouring?
Gotta pick up DI pellets today...
s7e9h3n
02-07-2006, 10:27 AM
It doesnt need hsf :)
Btw, what cooling that can be set @-36 idle and -33C load? LN2 with timed pouring?
Yup, that's about the only cooling that's capable of doing that. (Unless you somehow have a cascade tuned for a HUGE heatload @ -40ish temps?) With that kind of precision though, you need a really steady hand. Where's Kingpin when you need him :p: He knows how ;)
tarrcm
02-08-2006, 07:38 AM
Opti 148 CABYE 0543 FPMW
phase -30C idle/-6C load = no bug
ice not tested yet
FX57 CABNE 0530 APMW
phase -36C idle/-14C load = no bug
ice -50C idle/-24C load = BUG:(
Did some more dice last night & kept better track of when the cold bug kicked in (idle -50C/load -28C). It first happened @ 3355MHz and in a while was OK till it kicked in again at 3404 MHz.
Temps remained the same, is it normal for that to happen?
Dogimann
02-10-2006, 12:05 AM
Hi Members....;)
CACJE 0601 146 Opteron --->> Buged
KAB2E 0549 FPAW 3700 SD -->> Buged
Cooling with Vapochill LS
Sandy 3700+ CABGE -----------> -27º
Manchester 3800+ CCBWE -----> -26º
Only tried on dice the winnie. Will post results on the sandy + dice within a coupple of weeks.
Tried them out with dry ice today.
CABGE - Coldbug at -33º (no >255Mhz)
CCBWE - Coldbug at -36º (no >263Mhz)
boblemagnifique
02-19-2006, 03:05 AM
opt 146 CABYE -> -55° -> Max Htt 270
http://www.membres.lycos.fr/boblemagnifique/Overclocking/Opties/cabye0540fpmw/201.JPG
CABGE 0536 no coldbug down to -30 idle. Clocks past 300HTT fine at this temp. :D took me long enough to find one! (cheers njkid!)
Opteron 146 CABYE, idle -27C, load -5C, bugged at idle temps and htt >325
ThorLite
02-22-2006, 08:35 AM
Opteron 146 CABNE 0544 EPMW, idle -28C, load -4C, bugged at idle temps and htt >305.......
This su*, need unlocked multi :D
From 3 chips under phase/dice, 2 were bugged but this happens only above some HTT :slapass:
girth_maul
02-22-2006, 09:58 AM
Anyone know how an 146 CABYE 0540 FPAW will fair? I've just ordered myself and chilly1, but had it overcharged for higher temps and hopefully no coldbug.
stone_cold_Jimi
02-22-2006, 10:26 AM
My chip is no longer coldbugging over 255 HTT/-26C, it's more like 290 now. In fact I'm typing this with it at -30C @ 270x10. Why? Different RAM settings. It's not completely gone by any means but it has receded to a point that's more managable. Setting a lot of stuff to auto really helped. ;)
I thought only Drive/data strength might help. What else? I have tried many settings, also auto.
stone_cold_Jimi
02-22-2006, 10:56 AM
I set drive/data strength 3/auto. Trc was the other biggie - manual at 7, auto at 15. 7 works for some ppl with HZ but not me.
rekin
02-27-2006, 01:24 PM
fx 60 -->> CCB2E 0536 WPMW very cold bug :(
Kendragon
02-27-2006, 08:22 PM
I have to agree with rekin.....FX-60 CCB2E 0536 SPMW, worked at 3.4 for about 20 minutes, rebooted, will not boot at all now. -27, then NO BOOT at all even after overnight wait.
Also X2 4800+ CCB2E 0536 WPMW also cold bugged. -25 bios(250HTT) Ok @ stock to 238HTT
We need to stay away from CCB2E's of any kind it seems like. Not for aPhase although descent on water, both chips ran 3 gigs on water
Welcome to XS Rekin and Kendragon:toast:
XXX2E really sensitive with evap. temp around -37C.
Eldonko
02-27-2006, 11:27 PM
FX-57 CABCE 0530 BPMW no cold bug under dice, -51 core. Tested HTT to 350 :woot:
rekin
02-28-2006, 02:37 AM
thank's Dumo :)
after testing my FX60 cold bug at -17° ; I put a copper plate for avoids cold bug enter the evaporator and the cpu.
resust: full stable and booting good at 3.3ghz
sorry for my bad english because france power :D
Kendragon
02-28-2006, 03:04 PM
Could you elighten us on the copper plate? I do have an extra A64 heatspreader(Damage 3500+) i may be able to dremel the edges for that purpose. Cause I'm sure even with a plpate 3.3+ is capable on mine, or I am gonna RMA it. Was shipped 2/23/06 ZZF has the 15day so friday next week can still RMA.
And thanks for the welcome Dumo, you'll see me sometimes on Bleedinedge.
esdee
03-06-2006, 07:24 AM
CABYE 0528GPMW FX57
on 2 stage ethylane cascade -105 idle -98 full load
core @ -63*C can boot up to 245Htt
once on multiprocessor in windows @ 208 from smartguardian (-48*C) can do more than 280Htt, havent tested more
on single stage -25*C more than 350htt is possible as tested
Nephilim
03-06-2006, 07:31 AM
CCBWE 0546 MPMW = Opty 165 dual core
POSTs @ -50 (evap temp) and boots and benches @ -27C cannot really test below that.
HTT tested up to 350 or so fine. has x11 multiplier unlocked. :stick:
Stelios
03-06-2006, 05:10 PM
No cold bug with : Opteron 175 (310X11) @-45 (smartguardian) , or -52 evap .
CCBWE 0530TPMW
andL64
03-10-2006, 03:47 AM
An Old 4000+ KABYE dunno week and so on was pretty nice @ kaskade -80C evap -47C core no problems.
146 opteron:
CACJE 0601 GPAW -10Core temp buggy, doenst start in win
max.HTT not tested, yet
3700+ san diego:
KAB3E 0548 BPAW -15C core temp buggy, doesnt start in win
max.HTT, 325x11 no problem
MPS Multi cpu helped also more Volts to get to -10 or higher.
seEn
cupra
03-10-2006, 04:56 AM
opterons:
146 cabye 0542fpmw at -15
148 #1 cabye 0542fpmw at -10
148 #2 cabye 0542fpmw at 0
180 dc - ccbwe 0530tpmw - not cold bug on my SS
athlon 4200x2 cdbhe 0522tpmw not cold bug on my SS / d.ice
SoddemFX
03-10-2006, 05:40 AM
Opteron 148 0543 CABYE FPMW
My CPU reports very very wrong temperatures, swinging from -30C to +8C within a few seconds. The hardware monitor on my DFI NF3 Ultra-D is very wrong.
http://www.pclincs.co.uk/Forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=86822
The evaporator face is at -40C and the back of the motherboard is at -20C so i would assume a core temperature in the -30C region as im running low voltage.
I have not encountered any "cold bug" with this CPU.
Tom
cdelong
03-10-2006, 05:50 AM
that's nice cause I have a modded LS on the way and have the same stepping CABYE. It already runs 3.0Ghz on air!!
s7e9h3n
03-11-2006, 08:04 PM
CDBHE 4600+ Fun @ 1:1 TCCD:
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7049/11x3008jj.jpg
OPB's or you got one too? :eek:
CDBHE 4600+ Fun @ 1:1 TCCD:
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7049/11x3008jj.jpg
s7e9h3n
03-12-2006, 05:08 PM
OPB's or you got one too? :eek:
This one's mine ;)
Gautam
03-12-2006, 06:28 PM
-26C core temp according to BIOS, CABYE 0540 FPMW. No cold bug encountered as of yet on dry ice.
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3210/18pb.png
This one's mine ;)
WOW... :slobber:
So, either your autocascade was colder than ever or you were using something different. :D
lemonlime
03-15-2006, 07:57 AM
Opteron 148 CABYE 0543FPMW
Slight cold bug on mine, have trouble passing 300MHz HTT. It got really bad when I removed the IHS and I got lots of hard locking at idle temps around -30ish, so I have since reattached it. Runs no problem at 11x291 24/7 with no bug.
s7e9h3n
03-15-2006, 02:45 PM
WOW... :slobber:
So, either your autocascade was colder than ever or you were using something different. :D
It's all cpu ;)
chew*
03-18-2006, 01:01 PM
OK guys its time consuming but i've updated up to page 4. Note's of interest as of late are some interestng X2 chips floating around with the stepping LDBFE. At this point in time there is no sign of coldbug however none that i know of have been tested beyond -35 cpu temps..........A volunteer to send one to Stephen or I for xtreme cold testing would be appreciated. Would rather it go to stephen as he can pull colder then I can with more consistent temps.
*edit* Dumo would also be a good candidate for max cold to test this cpu..........
I can test it:)
Opps, no I can't....no mobo/mem left.
chew*
03-18-2006, 01:18 PM
I can test it:)
Opps, no I can't....no mobo/mem left.
I can arrange for a temp mobo and ram for you dumo......... sapphire RX480 and 2x256 bh-5 suit your fancy?
stone_cold_Jimi
03-18-2006, 01:33 PM
OK guys its time consuming but i've updated up to page 4. Note's of interest as of late are some interestng X2 chips floating around with the stepping LDBFE. At this point in time there is no sign of coldbug however none that i know of have been tested beyond -35 cpu temps..........A volunteer to send one to Stephen or I for xtreme cold testing would be appreciated. Would rather it go to stephen as he can pull colder then I can with more consistent temps.
*edit* Dumo would also be a good candidate for max cold to test this cpu..........
You're not talking about my preciousssss are you lol
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1342068&postcount=122
s7e9h3n
03-18-2006, 02:02 PM
You're not talking about my preciousssss are you lol
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1342068&postcount=122
I'd be happy to test that for you - I'll even let you choose what type of memory you'd like it tested with :D BH5, UTTBH5, TCCD, AENON, or basically any other type I'll have access to ;)
chew*
03-18-2006, 02:21 PM
You're not talking about my preciousssss are you lol
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1342068&postcount=122
actually yes that chip or another with the same code in particular :)
A64 FX-55 @-17 (no coldbug)
CABCE TPMW
booted with evap at -32, no issues.
s7e9h3n
03-18-2006, 02:37 PM
A64 FX-55 @-17 (no coldbug)
CBBCE TPMW
booted with evap at -32, no issues.
CABCE - CBBCE would make it a 512K L2 FX55 :p:
CABCE - CBBCE would make it a 512K L2 FX55 :p:
Gah, soz... Spent last 4 hours mounting evap so it made decent contact and am now nackered :stick:
Atleast I get better temps than I did before, though :rolleyes:
Thanks for pointing it out, I probs wouldn't have noticed it otherwise...
stone_cold_Jimi
03-19-2006, 12:35 PM
OK guys its time consuming but i've updated up to page 4. Note's of interest as of late are some interestng X2 chips floating around with the stepping LDBFE. At this point in time there is no sign of coldbug however none that i know of have been tested beyond -35 cpu temps.
I may have seen the demon this morning - I booted at 345x9 same as yesterday and left it with only Firefox running while I went and put the kettle on. System froze while idling. Ran over 3 hours of dual SP2004 while multitasking on the desktop to check, no instability whatsoever. That's a temperature feature or I'll eat my hat.
Now 3:20 into 2 Rosetta jobs, average -8C to -10C. Perhaps I'll run 310x10 later and see if it locks up tomorrow.
fatty
03-29-2006, 03:20 AM
Small update on my stepping CABCE 0522 XPMW -84 evap -50 is core I think
ncc-1709
03-29-2006, 03:26 AM
3700 sandy.
KAB3E 0548 RPCW buged @ 6*c at 3160mhz
3800 venice
LBBWE 0532 CPAW buged at any temp to 2700mhz
Dogimann
05-09-2006, 11:00 AM
Hi
Is the Opteron 165 CCB1E 0605XPMW Buged?
THX ;)
Vapor
05-09-2006, 11:05 AM
Add more data to the thread: my CCBWE 0517 MPMW 4400+ is fine for core temps down to at least -28C.
Kesnel
05-09-2006, 11:13 AM
Hi
Is the Opteron 165 CCB1E 0605XPMW Buged?
THX ;)
More than likely - B1 mem controllers are notorious for bugging.
Leverpospade
05-09-2006, 12:29 PM
X2 3800+ LDBHE 0601 UPMW, it can easily handle -20 C* haven't got the equipment to go colder. Gonne try some DICE soon and see how it does.
TheMeatFrog
05-18-2006, 06:18 AM
3800+ Manchester LDBHE 0601TPMW Idle -26C Load -10 Under Stock VapoLS 3.3GHz benchable @ 1.63v, 370+HTT possible
Marvin
05-18-2006, 06:25 AM
3700+ SD CAB2E bugged even at 0C.
ooztuncer
05-20-2006, 04:40 AM
Opty 146 CABYE 0540 FPMW
bugged at 275htt @ -30 celcius (cpu idle)
Phase is broken cannot test anymore...
Emperor
05-20-2006, 06:35 AM
urgent!
is 170 0550vpmw ccb1e bugged??
Vapor
05-20-2006, 06:44 AM
Yes, very.
Emperor
05-20-2006, 07:01 AM
is it possible to overcome/avoid this ?
because waht i heard is that cold bugs happen at certain temps?
TheMeatFrog
05-20-2006, 02:13 PM
Opteron 148 CABYE 0543FPMW cold bugs at -20 idle at anything over 300HTT
Turrican
05-20-2006, 02:26 PM
My San Diego 3700+ KACAE 0552 FPDW is also very bugged.
I need ~+20 to get a HTT of 300 . (Ricky Tweak+2nd Heatspreder between cpu and evap. :D)
at the moment 295x11 is rockstable.
I just forgot this thread... :rolleyes:
FX57 CABCE 0516WPMW #0022
-51ºC
:toast:
LeSnip3R
05-21-2006, 10:23 AM
Venice 3500+
CBBLE -22°C
no cold bug
Rubiconx3
05-21-2006, 12:08 PM
opty 170
CCBWE -26c
high htt cold bug (320 +)
Jimmy007
07-14-2006, 01:44 AM
I have Opteron 165 CCBWE 0547TPMW has it ColdBug? I've read that its good stepping for phase cooling, but maybe someone has the same stepping?
Anyone got info to add on the Rev.F CPUs and the new steppings?
:) Thanks
Kenny
I know these are 754, but..
Sempron 3100+ LBBWE 0533BPCW
Sempron 3000+ LBBWE 0604WPAW
Both bugged below -35ºC.
cuoficr
08-30-2006, 05:37 PM
Opteron CABGE 0534SPMW No coldbug down to -30c
stormcloud
03-29-2007, 03:08 PM
Can some one give me the results of this test please?
ozzimark
03-29-2007, 03:14 PM
nice bump, but what do you mean?
and while this thread is up...
Anyone got info to add on the Rev.F CPUs and the new steppings?
:) Thanks
Kenny
BV is pretty bad in my experience.. htt bugged, going below 0c on all 3 chips i've tried was basically usless. two CCBVF and one LBBVF
stormcloud
04-02-2007, 09:08 AM
nice bump, but what do you mean?
and while this thread is up...
BV is pretty bad in my experience.. htt bugged, going below 0c on all 3 chips i've tried was basically usless. two CCBVF and one LBBVF
There seems to be missing data from list started by Chew*. I have a KAB3E and it's not on the list. I have just bought a new phase unit and I wanted to know if or how badly:( cold bugged it is before I start. Can you help?
Cheers:)
ozzimark
04-02-2007, 11:24 AM
i don't have personal experience with one, but what i have seen of the KAB3E's, it will be bugged pretty bad. probably -20c to +10c as an approximate range, depending on how high you want to go with the HTT :doh:
stormcloud
04-02-2007, 12:05 PM
i don't have personal experience with one, but what i have seen of the KAB3E's, it will be bugged pretty bad. probably -20c to +10c as an approximate range, depending on how high you want to go with the HTT :doh:
Thanks for letting me know I kinda thought it would. Looks like another upgrade then :D From the data I'm still not sure what stepping I should be going for I should probably change to Core2 but I love my DFI expert too much. :p: any advice?
Cheers
likewhoa
04-28-2007, 06:53 PM
anyone know if this stepping has the coldbug caa2c from an fx55.
edit: seems the clawhammers are immune to coldbugs :)