Is this you guys have been looking for? TeamGroup Ce6 2gb set performance

[Onepagebook]

Personally, I still love the ram can do as tight as it can be..
Now I borrow the BFG 7800 GT OC , fully Air cooled;)

I have this compare with their New batch BH-5, I will post that followed, too sharp to post:slobber:

let's see those benches first, don't have to waste time explain, these bench just for those who really want the performance and stabilites from the 2gb.

http://69.16.203.231/teaminfce6max/Tce616m1.jpg

http://69.16.203.231/teaminfce6max/Tce616m2.jpg

http://69.16.203.231/teaminfce6max/Tce616m3.jpg

http://69.16.203.231/teaminfce6max/Tce616m4.jpg

the 3dmark03 all air 495/1200

http://69.16.203.231/teaminfce6max/3d0318k.jpg

some digicam proof for above marks:

http://69.16.203.231/teaminfce6max/ce6dc258a.jpg

http://69.16.203.231/teaminfce6max/ce6dc258f.jpg
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some marks I also will show you guys soon, I think "lastviking have n't beat me yet;)

270x13, it has beat my first time 16m WR (3.6G)
Steve, now that's the answer what you wondering about, high fsb for BH-5 is only for fun; tight timing and performance are the keys; doesn't mean I only can reach high fsb if I play that; I think someone owe me that nick name you know;)

DIDGICAM:

http://69.16.203.231/teaminfce6max/nbh5ddr5401.jpg

http://69.16.203.231/teaminfce6max/nbh5ddr5402.jpg

windows version captured for this:

http://69.16.203.231/teaminfce6max/ddr540p16m.jpg


3d action for 263,

I will need to test 3d on over 270fsb..



http://69.16.203.231/teaminfce6max/ddr5263d03.jpg

[slimais]

superb :slobber:
houpe they are not cherrypicked?? :rolleyes: but even if they are, then still superb :slobber:

[5-Clicks]

Very nice, OPB :clap:

[G H Z]

257Mhz on 2.75V, wow.

[Captin Insano]

As Always Bro you rock!!! keep them good numbers comming Kev. I have my Team DDR600..allready(of course you know where i got em) soon i wanna get some more of their Memory. Maybe some of this new BH5 as well as some 2x1gb sticks. Im really loving this brand memory!!

Cpt.

[alpha0ne]

Do you have a product link for the 2x1GB set please OPB :)

[[cTx]Philosophy]

I have some ce-6 that has gona above 265 2.5-3-2-5 but this dam elcheapo mobo wont allow me to try em out at that setting, Im working on a new mobo ATM

As always though OPB shows his golden touch with hardware.. Watch out for my CE-6 :P

[STickGuy]

Yeah where can i get some of this ram

[gigi77]

superb :slobber:
houpe they are not cherrypicked?? :rolleyes: but even if they are, then still superb :slobber:

Nice Results!

[NinjaWreck]

The first batch of BE-5 did those speeds and timings. Check the 2Gb database. I was one of the ones to get a lucky set.

[Lastviking]

Personally, I still love the ram can do as tight as it can be..
Now I borrow the BFG 7800 GT OC , fully Air cooled;)

I have this compare with their New batch BH-5, I will post that followed, too sharp to post:slobber:

let's see those benches first, don't have to waste time explain, these bench just for those who really want the performance and stabilites from the 2gb.


the 3dmark03 all air 495/1200


some digicam proof for above marks:


************************************************** ***


some marks I also will show you guys soon, I think "lastviking have n't beat me yet;)

270x13, it has beat my first time 16m WR (3.6G)
Steve, now that's the answer what you wondering about, high fsb for BH-5 is only for fun; tight timing and performance are the keys; doesn't mean I only can reach high fsb if I play that; I think someone owe me that nick name you know;)

DIDGICAM:



windows version captured for this:




3d action for 263,

I will need to test 3d on over 270fsb..



[/IMG]


Hmmm what do you want from me :p: , some super pi 32mb action :stick: , hmm i think i need to try something diffrent maybe some more sticks and some more clothes on me ;) , hmm one more thing my 2x256 WR is easy to break, i know that and my sticks also are not so god that evry one thinks :)

[babyelf]

wow.. very nice OPB :D:D

[s7e9h3n]

some marks I also will show you guys soon, I think "lastviking have n't beat me yet;)

270x13, it has beat my first time 16m WR (3.6G)
Steve, now that's the answer what you wondering about, high fsb for BH-5 is only for fun; tight timing and performance are the keys; doesn't mean I only can reach high fsb if I play that; I think someone owe me that nick name you know;)

Bleh....I need a pair of sticks that can run with as little Vdd as yours :p:
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2266/11x270bh32m3za.jpg
Maybe one of the 2 kits of 2x512mb Mushkin PC3500 Lvl2 Blacks which are coming to me this week will be able to do that ;)

[bachus_anonym]

Nice RAM and very good presentaton, Kevin :up: Good Rev.C is just a pleasure to play with...

So are you officially with TeamGroup now?

[ben805]

very nice cherry picked pair....wonder what the average buyer would get from the production stuff :D :D :D

[s7e9h3n]

So are you officially with TeamGroup now?
No he's not ;)

[Onepagebook]

Nice RAM and very good presentaton, Kevin :up: Good Rev.C is just a pleasure to play with...

So are you officially with TeamGroup now?


JUst the same situation as you review Gskill stuff;)

[bachus_anonym]

JUst the same situation as you review Gskill stuff;)Probably not exactly "same situation" :stick: as I'm not loyal to any particular brand. I will "OC-test" any RAM I would get my hand on ;) But that doesn't matter...
Good luck, Kevin :toast: Looks like TeamGroup comes up with some nice DDR lately :up: I'm curious If those results can be considered as "average", though.

[Budwise]

Ifineon has been very tricky lately though. Have you tried any 3D stability testing at higher speeds? Perhaps an hour on BF2? The OCZ Platinum EB and the Mushkin Redlines use the same Infineon chips and although they may be SuperPi and Prime stable at 280+, game and 3D stability is a whole different ball game... Have you tried for 275+ with that 2GB kit?

[Lastviking]

Ifineon has been very tricky lately though. Have you tried any 3D stability testing at higher speeds? Perhaps an hour on BF2? The OCZ Platinum EB and the Mushkin Redlines use the same Infineon chips and although they may be SuperPi and Prime stable at 280+, game and 3D stability is a whole different ball game... Have you tried for 275+ with that 2GB kit?

I think it are the memcontroller in the cpu thats holding 2gb back in games, i have same problems with 4x512mb @ 260+ super pi works fine but gaming some hours make the computer to get blue screen or reboot.

[STEvil]

4x512 is a bit different than 2x1GB, but yes I would also like to see what happens to BE/CE-x with 1T vs 2T.

[Lastviking]

4x512 is a bit different than 2x1GB, but yes I would also like to see what happens to BE/CE-x with 1T vs 2T.


Yes i know but i stil think that the mem controller are holding the sticks back when they can make super pi and not work in games @ same speed.

[gigi77]

Probably not exactly "same situation" :stick: as I'm not loyal to any particular brand. I will "OC-test" any RAM I would get my hand on ;) But that doesn't matter...
Good luck, Kevin :toast: Looks like TeamGroup comes up with some nice DDR lately :up: I'm curious If those results can be considered as "average", though.

Helllo Bachus, this ram from Teamgroup is SOLD OUT.

Regards,
luigi
;)

[ben805]

Yes i know but i stil think that the mem controller are holding the sticks back when they can make super pi and not work in games @ same speed.


I don't buy it!!! When I bought the first pair of mushkin redline it only managed to do 255 3D stable and people suggested it was either due to lack of memory tweaking skill and incorrect memory setting(user error) and often said my memory controller can't handle it, so I went out and bought 3 more pairs and found all of them overclock poorly(250~252 max), except when I pair up the highest clocking sticks together and that was the only way to let me get 260+, so I'd say memory controller isn't always to blame when in reality most of these Ce6 can only 3D stable at 250~255, OCZ knows it, Mushkin knows it, Teamgroup knows it, otherwise they would of label and sell all their Ce6 as DDR520 or DDR550!! :D :D

[s7e9h3n]

I don't buy it!!! When I bought the first pair of mushkin redline it only managed to do 255 3D stable and people suggested it was either due to lack of memory tweaking skill and incorrect memory setting(user error) and often said my memory controller can't handle it, so I went out and bought 3 more pairs and found all of them overclock poorly(250~252 max), except when I pair up the highest clocking sticks together and that was the only way to let me get 260+, so I'd say memory controller isn't always to blame when in reality most of these Ce6 can only 3D stable at 250~255, OCZ knows it, Mushkin knows it, Teamgroup knows it, otherwise they would of label and sell all their Ce6 as DDR520 or DDR550!! :D :D
BINGO.....ce-6 have known issues over 260mhz ;)

[bachus_anonym]

Yes i know but i stil think that the mem controller are holding the sticks back when they can make super pi and not work in games @ same speed.That's what I was saying before I actually got to play with 2Gb sets built on Rev.C Infineon. After 4 sets of different make and models I can tell you that no amount of tweaking made them 3D stable at same speeds as 2D. I've seen somewhere between 7-12Mhz difference. I tested with 2 CPUs...

I'm with ben805... It's an IC and not memory controller. Unless, there's something that can be done that we don't know about. Some BIOS modification or something. But I'm $95 sure it's the IC that is to blame. Not that Rev.C is bad... It's just have it's quirks and we need to accept that. It's really good as I have a CE-5 that is fully 3D stable @ 271Mhz 5-2-3-3.0-1T and 2D @ 278Mhz 5-2-3-3.0-1T. It's not average kit, that's for sure...

[ozzimark]

just out of curiosity, which two cpu's did you try? hopefully not two of the same class, like E4 ;)

[CapFTP]

nice ram OPB....

[Lastviking]

That's what I was saying before I actually got to play with 2Gb sets built on Rev.C Infineon. After 4 sets of different make and models I can tell you that no amount of tweaking made them 3D stable at same speeds as 2D. I've seen somewhere between 7-12Mhz difference. I tested with 2 CPUs...

I'm with ben805... It's an IC and not memory controller. Unless, there's something that can be done that we don't know about. Some BIOS modification or something. But I'm $95 sure it's the IC that is to blame. Not that Rev.C is bad... It's just have it's quirks and we need to accept that. It's really good as I have a CE-5 that is fully 3D stable @ 271Mhz 5-2-3-3.0-1T and 2D @ 278Mhz 5-2-3-3.0-1T. It's not average kit, that's for sure...

Maybe its diffrent story with 4x sticks then..i will test more..

[Tibu]

Is this stuff available in the states?

[[cTx]Philosophy]

gree 2X1024 has probs 1T at high FSB...
I can memtest like sheets above 260ish but winblows? nah...

[Lastviking]

gree 2X1024 has probs 1T at high FSB...
I can memtest like sheets above 260ish but winblows? nah...

Thx for info.

[Revv23]

whats 3-3-2-5 get you?

my G.skill ZX will do 247 2.5-3-2-5 on a crappy asrock..., so im not all that impressed

[ic3m4n2005]

Shoul i prefer these over the 3-3-2-8 rated ones ?

[Budwise]

Shoul i prefer these over the 3-3-2-8 rated ones ?

until we see some more testing, they are about even.. They even use the same IC's...

[ic3m4n2005]

Today my kit has arrived, but they seem to suck big time. It seems they don`t even reach 250 2.5-4-4-8 on my Expert. What the f**k is that ? Shouldn`t it be tested that they do what they are rated for ? I'am testing 3-3-2-8 right now but 265 is a no go. Maybe someone can help me up a little with drive strenght and tref, tried a few but nothing helps. As for voltage i've tried 2.7-2.79, but even that doesn't make a difference :(

[kraggy]

Heya OPB, is this on a DFI Expert? If so, which bios. Thanks bro, kraggy

[Revv23]

Today my kit has arrived, but they seem to suck big time. It seems they don`t even reach 250 2.5-4-4-8 on my Expert. What the f**k is that ? Shouldn`t it be tested that they do what they are rated for ? I'am testing 3-3-2-8 right now but 265 is a no go. Maybe someone can help me up a little with drive strenght and tref, tried a few but nothing helps. As for voltage i've tried 2.7-2.79, but even that doesn't make a difference :(


no sense loosening more then 2.5-3-3-5, it doesnt really get you anywhere, 3-3-3-5 should do you good though, be sure to play with everything, these rams depend just as much on setup as they do on good IC's. MAL/TRP are a good place to start, then maybe tref and drive strength, it really takes alot of time to get the most out of 2x1gb.

[s7e9h3n]

Today my kit has arrived, but they seem to suck big time. It seems they don`t even reach 250 2.5-4-4-8 on my Expert. What the f**k is that ? Shouldn`t it be tested that they do what they are rated for ? I'am testing 3-3-2-8 right now but 265 is a no go. Maybe someone can help me up a little with drive strenght and tref, tried a few but nothing helps. As for voltage i've tried 2.7-2.79, but even that doesn't make a difference :(
It's a compatibility issue with the Expert ;)

[ic3m4n2005]

It`s because they are build for 2.5-4-4-8, tried OPBs settings too and got around 240mhz, with the rated settings 250 won't even boot and that's why i'am angry. Tried very loos MAL already (9) but no go at all :(

[s7e9h3n]

It`s because they are build for 2.5-4-4-8, tried OPBs settings too and got around 240mhz, with the rated settings 250 won't even boot and that's why i'am angry. Tried very loos MAL already (9) but no go at all :(
I spoke to OPB yesterday and he says the reason he uses the Ultra-D is because of compatibility issues with various difference IC's on the Expert. I'd imagine that your case may not be isolated....

[ic3m4n2005]

OK thank you, maybe i'll get an ultra-d cause i don't really need SLI. Or are theree other Boards which clock better than ultra-d ? Maybe you could send me a pm, cause i don't want to abuse OPBs thread :D

[s7e9h3n]

OK thank you, maybe i'll get an ultra-d cause i don't really need SLI. Or are theree other Boards which clock better than ultra-d ? Maybe you could send me a pm, cause i don't want to abuse OPBs thread :D
No worries, everyone would probably benefit from this info as well ;) Check here.....http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=84492

[ic3m4n2005]

My only worries are going from a good board with 4 phase power back to old stuff :)
I've taken a look at these new Boards with ati chipset, but many of them use old chipsets (uli ?!).

[s7e9h3n]

My only worries are going from a good board with 4 phase power back to old stuff :)
I've taken a look at these new Boards with ati chipset, but many of them use old chipsets (uli ?!).
Trust me on this...OPB and I wouldn't be using out Ultra-D's if we had any concerns with the 3-phase power....It definately can get messy if something screwed up at the voltages we run ;)

[Revv23]

My only worries are going from a good board with 4 phase power back to old stuff :)
I've taken a look at these new Boards with ati chipset, but many of them use old chipsets (uli ?!).


nah, some use the ati southbridge, some use a better featured ULi southbridge.

Anyways the ultra-d's are usually better boards, but one to look at is the sapphire grouper, the ati reference mobo, its called the pure innovation. Right now its the only board that competes with the ultra D imo, and if you can live with single pci-e, it should do as well or better then the dfi as its got 4-phase power for cpu and ram.

I dont have enough experience with either board to make a good opinion though, just leeting you know that there are other good options out there.

Personnally im really surprised about these issues and im pretty dissapointed that i havent seen opb talking about them yet, the expert was something i almost bought, i wouldnt touch it with a ten ft. poll now that i know this.