QUAD SLI: records to be broken. Anybody getting their hands on these?

[IvanAndreevich]

http://www.slizone.com/object/slizone_quadsli.html

I wonder how much that sh|t is going to cost :slap: Looks impressive, waiting for more precise specs. With each GPU having 512MB, it's hopefully the better clocking revision of the GTX. I think this system on air might take the WR in '05 :fact:

[eva2000]

maybe US$1000/card i'd say heh

[cooter]

wow the pricetag on a system like that. I wonder if they are going to have any driver support issues????

[vapb400]

its fully backed by nvidia so i'm sure they're good.

[rob[GL]]

Asus put out a couple (2000 samples) of 7800GT's with 2 gpu's per card... That seems more ... price friendly? :P

[rob[GL]]

http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/12/14/sneak_preview_of_the_nvidia_quad_gpu_setup/

[5-Clicks]

The cards are longer than the mobo is wide! That's just crazy...rediculous I should say.

[Supertim0r]

there is 4x Asus 7800GT dual available at one of my suppliers (2000 edition...)
1017+tx / cards (Canadian $) :D

[madgamer]

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=195 that site has some more pics of it actually inside a system running at CES. I wish they would put up some benchmark numbers though.

[IvanAndreevich]

Supertim0r
These are NOT GT. Each chip is a GTX 512MB with 24 pipes, much higher clock and 512MBs of RAM.

[dpa]

4 gpus @ 780Mhz ram @ 2050Mhz, and cpu @ 7.266Ghz... It would kick some nasty ass!!

[softpain]

Kick your wallet ass....and no cpu can push that system even to half it's potential....it will be good for a quad cores cpu in 4 years though....:p:

It's nice marketing!:banana:

[Victorshen]

Kick your wallet ass....and no cpu can push that system even to half it's potential....it will be good for a quad cores cpu in 4 years though....:p:

It's nice marketing!:banana:
not really if you gonna use this monster to push 30' LCD
perhaps it has something relating to the newly released dell 30' LCD:D

[MaxxxRacer]

Thats all well and good, but how in the world are you going to cool it / power it?


And to get the most out of those gpus ud need a Daul core Dual socket Opteron system at 4ghz.

[saaya]

pffff im going to ignore quad sli results, theres really a point where things go too far...
i wonder if there will be 4 dual cards in sli anytime soon... wow an extra 200 points in 2k5 for just 1000$ :stick:

[DaWaN]

That going to be very very very CPU limited....
Dell & Intel, i can't imagine a slower cpu and motherboard combo :confused:

[satein]

4 gpus @ 780Mhz ram @ 2050Mhz, and cpu @ 7.266Ghz... It would kick some nasty ass!!
I still cannot find detail spec on this dual 512GTX. Anyway, just believe that for a single slot cooling solution, how this 512GTX will be clocked at the same as dual slot setup (at 550Mhz, isn't it?). Just wonder how big PSU need in this setup too, but the system itself looks totally cool :cool: and the case is :banana: hot.

[saaya]

dont forget the 600W this system will consume under load.

for what....?
to play fear in 2500x1800 with max aa and af? pffff

[Tanktanium]

I just noticed that it technically isn't a dual gpu card. It looks like 2 pcb's attached together with separate heatsinks?

[ElDuderino]

This is rediculous. My computer is already CPU limited with 2 cores @ 3050mhz w/ 2x7800gtx 256s....What the hell are 4 gpus gonna do with the same processing power?

They aren't even using a 32x motherboard....wtf? Seems like 4 GPUs would need the extra pipes.

Those cards are gonna get hot and melt. They have 4 sandwiched into the space where two are already crowded.

Lemme go crack up in the corner and laugh myself to death.

NVIDIA and Dell make me smoke cigarettes...I'm gonna sue them for killing me! :slapass:

[satein]

According to this picture on watch.impress.co.jp
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/0107/ces05_8.jpg
I believe that this Quad SLIing need an external PSU to feed them :woot: , as you can seen there are 2 external cables pluged below the air out slot on each card.

[IYP]

hahaha at first i thought this was a joke

this is going past the line....and if i read correctly....dell will be...overclocking?? heh, with the slabs of ALU they call heatsinks i have a feeling there going to have a problem

[satein]

Probably the only way out to this kind of single slot cooling is to use 7800GTX GO (Mobile GPU) to slap on this Quad SLi card :rolleyes:, even if I see it is as very rare to get the card run at the same clock setting on ordinary 512GTX.
The next question is how fast are those memories used to slap on the card? I wonder it might not be a so-called 1.1ns...

[softpain]

"Add all that to the 4.26GHz Intel Extreme Edition dual-core chip, and you've got a serious gaming machine."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/06/dell_game_ces/



"NVIDIA is introducing a new video card with TWO 7800 GTX 512 GPUs on it with two PCBs. Oh, and these new cards will sport 1 GB of total memory as well."


"The Dell system based on these new graphics cards will be as shown and should ship in spring of 2006"

XPS 600 Renegade...:eek:

[J-Mag]

What seems most definately retarded is the fact that this thing will supposedly ship in Spring, where as isn't the new nvidia and ati parts hitting first half of Q1... It will be outdated before it is even sold.

[softpain]

What seems most definately retarded is the fact that this thing will supposedly ship in Spring, where as isn't the new nvidia and ati parts hitting first half of Q1... It will be outdated before it is even sold.

Oh I'm sure they will get the same quad for the G71 and G80
:banana:

Seriously can't you see it's the future...:rolleyes:

Nvidia cannot even get the gfx 512 in the retail stores since how many weeks? :rolleyes:

[Willis]

oh yes now i can watch porn on 4 lcd's at high quality :slobber:
*goes to shops*:D

[Gnome]

this is just really for e-penis measures. i hate to say but this should be quite inefficient... first of all you have far from 100% scaling, second there's no way those gtx 512s are running at 550 mhz ( cf: cooling), third it seems like they kept it specially for dell... they probably even have a driver lock... "an astounding 2 GB of on-board graphics memory." in AFR, every card has to load the whole scene in memory, without mensioning latency...


EDIT : but then i'd probably buy one for the trip.

[adz]

this is an EXTREME machine and i see it in this prospective...(xtremesystems:D:D ) fascinating 4gpus ...

[madgamer]

http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2664&p=2
anandtech had some more info on this, including pics of the cpu heatsink, which is huge.

[k|ngp|n]

If someone hacks the drivers to run on i915, maybe we could see one of these freaks running with a dothan...or better yet yonah :)

[[XC] leviathan18]

they are using the 32 lanes pci e mobo

[odb]

now i just got to win that lottery to buy one

[ingentingmendeg]

oh yeah baby, intel board!

[mdzcpa]

Looks more like a technology demonstration than any real product destined to hit the street. I'll beleive it when i see it in retail.

[lowdog]

FFS everyone......it's ridiculous not rediculous. :rolleyes:

And yes, it's bloody ridiculous. :fact: :)

[Gnome]

Looks more like a technology demonstration than any real product destined to hit the street. I'll beleive it when i see it in retail.

dell has been very loud about it, it should hit retail : http://www.dell.com/html/us/products/ces/index.htm

but there's this old gamer saying that goes like this : "if it ain't AMD, it ain't for gamers"

EDIT : Check out http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2664&p=2

3rd picture -> those are dual GTX 512 (cf : heatsink)... yet "As if the extremely overclocked CPU wasn't enough to begin with, NVIDIA stepped in and outfitted the system with two dual-GPU GeForce 7800 GTX 512MB cards", they don't have quad sli for demo, what a shame for a techdemo, not to have the hardware demoed...

[ingentingmendeg]

but still, i find this rig WAY to overkill for todays games. i mean come on, my rig can play preety muh any game at nice detail and i only paid $1800.

[Gnome]

but still, i find this rig WAY to overkill for todays games. i mean come on, my rig can play preety muh any game at nice detail and i only paid $1800.

yeah, the next upradre you'll need is a 3000+ :stick: , but that rig is aparently for the dell 30" screen

[revenant]

the case looks pretty bad ass actually.. lol. that's a lot of video power.. whew... I dunno about the intel cpu idea.. they must have paid a pretty penny to get their cpus in that... Anyways - that thing will be for peeps with a LOT of disposable dough... kind of a cool idea though... just balls to the wall everything for the peeps who can afford it.. whew.

[pduan87]

Intel or not, this thing is gonna be a beast. Imagine playing native res on a 30" monitor with no troubles. Don't tell me you guys aren't jealous ;)

[IvanAndreevich]

Anybody got any info on the clocks yet?

And yes, it IS a nforce 32x mobo.

[K.I.T.T.]

Pppppffff. 4.2 GHz :rolleyes:

If i clock my opty at 2.7 GHz, it beats my P4 660 @ 4.32 GHz in...erm....well EVERYTHING :fact:

And Dell OCing? On passive heatsinks.....yeah right... :ROTF:

I think i know what will happen :flame:

:D

[gundamit]

And Dell OCing? On passive heatsinks.....yeah right... :ROTF:Under the plastic shroud must be at least one fan.

Wow. Did everyone around here get sane all of a sudden? I thought price/performance bang/buck ratios were taboo subjects around here. Even if you can't get excited about Dell (in truth - who could?) just the fact Dell has partnered up with Nvidia means quad SLI will see the light of day. At some point it will trickle into the other channels. How long before we see the AMD incarnation? Whats the chances we'll see quad come to other classes of NV VPUs? :confused:

[IvanAndreevich]

How long before we see the AMD incarnation?
I think you just need the graphic cards and a case to fit them. Driver support is probably already there!

[Gnome]

Pppppffff. 4.2 GHz :rolleyes:

If i clock my opty at 2.7 GHz, it beats my P4 660 @ 4.32 GHz in...erm....well EVERYTHING :fact:

And Dell OCing? On passive heatsinks.....yeah right... :ROTF:

I think i know what will happen :flame:

:D


the dell intergration is generally quite noise efficient. Normally they dont have more then 1 fan in the case exept for PSU. In this case however they might need to have 2 case fans under that shroud -> it's going to be noisy and hot regardless of whether it's a 65nm cpu or not...

what worries me with dell is the psu : they generally have the crappiest PSUs man ever built. let's see how, if it ever shows up, this rig goes thrue burn testing...

[saaya]

kitt, this is a p4 dual core, so its faster than a 660 at 4.2ghz

how many memory does each gpu have? 512mb right?
its not only in sfr that the gpus have the same info copied into their own frame buffer, in ALL sli modes each gpu needs a copy of every texture, every bit of data in its own framebuffer.

so this means the system has 4 gpus and 2gb of memory, but effectively it only has 512mb of memory!

whys there some plastic thing blocking the dvi outputs of the second card though? no multi display?

what really surprises me is that dell ocs the cpu...
well let me re-phrase that, whatREALLY surprises me is that intel doesnt clock their cpus higher... if thy can run 4.2 with a huge heatsink like that im sure they can run 4ghz or 3.8ghz with a "normal" heatpipe heatsink... but they only clock it to 3.4ghz :confused:

[Pt1t]

http://www.matbe.com/actualites/12220/dell-xps-renegade-quad-sli-nvidia/

more photos from CES LA 2006

[Gnome]

kitt, this is a p4 dual core, so its faster than a 660 at 4.2ghz

how many memory does each gpu have? 512mb right?
its not only in sfr that the gpus have the same info copied into their own frame buffer, in ALL sli modes each gpu needs a copy of every texture, every bit of data in its own framebuffer.

so this means the system has 4 gpus and 2gb of memory, but effectively it only has 512mb of memory!


basically resolution scaling + aniso (eventually fsaa, but aliasing @ 2560x1600 shouldn't be a primary concern...) shouldnt be all that good :(

EDIT : wait a sec, dont nvidia cards (exept quadros) not have single link dvi ? meaning those should be 7800gtx512s with dual link dvi :confused:

[mdzcpa]

Its still a technology demo IMO. IF they ever really do become available, it will be in such limited amounts it won't matter.

However, the point that this technology can trickle down, and that we may see different types of multiple GPU configurations on the horizon, is what's important. Anything Dell can do, the DIY market can do better. It always has, and it always will. Looks like we'll all have more interesting toys to play with.

[Shinuza]

Dear CPU please hold me tight :D

W8 & See, but sure CPUs @ stock couldn't keep up.

[softpain]

2 Go de DDR2 667 MHz

It say the gfx 512 are at the clock of the gfx 256 because of the heat (Les fréquences sont cependant celles de la 7800 GTX 256 Mo, le système de refroidissement devant être réduit.)

PSU is 650 watts..

http://www.matbe.com/actualites/12220/dell-xps-renegade-quad-sli-nvidia/

Thanks for the link Pt1t

[esdee]

http://www.matbe.com/divers/zoom/nvidia-quad-sli/000000026042.jpg/

the challenge is to make DICE an LN2 containers for this :nuts:

[ingentingmendeg]

yeah, the next upradre you'll need is a 3000+ :stick: , but that rig is aparently for the dell 30" screen

yeah, theres no way in hell im gunna pay 3 grand for something that i dont need. actually, no one needs it. that xps renegade is for bragging rights and a very large e pene. :eek:

[FireDragon]

there is a case fan behind that shroud they may call it passive as there is no fan on the hs itself but there is one to pull air through the case and in effect through the hs to boot..if you are bying this computer wouldnt you want MORE fans regaurdless of noise or hell if you have that much money send it away to get a wc retro fit on it?

Dragon

[IvanAndreevich]

Can a soundcard even fit in the last slot? Would be funny if you would be stuck with integrated audio with that rig.

[brandinb]

azalia hd audio aint that bad tho

god i envy the person playing oblivion or ut 2007 on a 30 inch screen in native resolution on that thing tho hehehhe

its ok ill just use my 7800gt and my 19inch crt and pretend

[Gnome]

throwing Quad SLI at an Intel based gaming system is much like putting lipstick on a pig.

owned. :D

ok here's another one

Q : Based on the little that is known about this system, do you think that the Intel processor is the biggest bottleneck in this system?

A : Absolutely, but there's no need to take my opinion. Here's how a heavily OC'd intel-based Dell stacks up to everything else
(http://www.pcmag.com/image_popup/0,1871,s=1564&iid=118542,00.asp). Given that everyone's graphics card setups were identical, Dell must've done something else wrong to come in last on every single benchmark.


source : http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28865

[[XC] leviathan18]

unless you take that intel cpu up to 7ghz and kick some serious ass in the hands of a top overclocker with some LN2..... but i guess some inte guys here says the nvidia chipset sux for OC

[trakslacker]

owned. :D

yessir. ;)

Here's the INQ article those quotes came from:

http://www.theinq.com/?article=28865

[zakelwe]

There's no problem at all teaming up the Intel 955 with quad SLi because this is a pure gaming machine and the games it is made for are the ones that are really gpu limited, such as FEAR and COD2 etc. When you start cranking up the resolution and AA/AF with these games whether you have Intel or AMD does not matter.

Even with older games both AMD and Intel will happily do much more than 60fps, so whether your AMD does 140fps and your Intel does 100fps is not really relevant.

The quote about lipstick on a pig is not really accurate hear and smacks of somebody with a hidden agenda or being a short sighted fanboy.

Regards

Andy

[trakslacker]

The quote about lipstick on a pig is not really accurate hear and smacks of somebody with a hidden agenda

yes, I would say that largely correct(although not the agenda is not really hidden), given that the quote can be attributed to Rahul Sood, the founder of VooDooPC. ;)

[Gnome]

There's no problem at all teaming up the Intel 955 with quad SLi because this is a pure gaming machine and the games it is made for are the ones that are really gpu limited, such as FEAR and COD2 etc. When you start cranking up the resolution and AA/AF with these games whether you have Intel or AMD does not matter.


there are plenty of games which are gpu limited and still run faster on amd...

[mdzcpa]

If I was a boutique rig builder with a focus on gaming machines, I'd be heavily leaning towards AMD as well. When its common knowledge that AMD chips are outperforming Intel counterparts for "gaming," it only makes business sense to lean this way. Although things always change, I'd question the business savy of any boutique builder that relied on Intel chips for gaming rigs at this point in time.

[AACDIRECT]

If I was a boutique rig builder with a focus on gaming machines, I'd be heavily leaning towards AMD as well. When its common knowledge that AMD chips are outperforming Intel counterparts for "gaming," it only makes business sense to lean this way. Although things always change, I'd question the business savy of any boutique builder that relied on Intel chips for gaming rigs at this point in time.

I am a boutique builder. My high end systems are 99.9% AMD. Not because I am not offering Intel but because the public wants AMD. (It is faster so they would be crazy to not buy AMD at this time.) DELL uses Intel because Intel pays them (Awsome discounts, MDF, backend money, etc). Highend is such a small part of there business that they don't care. People will buy because they are DELL. Those that are in the know will not buy because they are DELL. You would not buy a 500K supercar from Kia?

I was at CES and saw the system. My observations.

1) I never saw the system run buttoned up. (Side panel closed.) As the DELL chassis is hinged it was not done so you could see the cards. (Because you couldn't.. they had a 2nd "display" set.) To me this reads as heat is an issue. Knowing how much heat the 7800 GTX cores produce it makes me wonder how you could ever make them run cool without some major fans that the system did not have. Also power is crazy. two external 150 Watt PSU and a 650 Watt internal. Enough already.....

2) Not one benchmark run. If it is so fast then why no benchmarks?
When I saw it they were running Age of Empires or something similar. (At very high resolution.) I want to see what the thing can do... It would be like taking you turbocharged Viper to the drag strip... say "Look it makes 2000Hp and is so badass" .... then just driving 10 MPH around the parking lot. Line it up and run it. (If anyone has any benchmarks I would like to see them. A 3dmark05 score less than 15K is a joke so it better be faster than that.)

3) Why? If G71 is so close then why? My guess is because ATI had a new toy at CES behind closed doors. (This stunt distracted the press from ATI. Not that the NDA is lifted yet.) The sad thing was that I built a new water cooled system that was supposed to be showed (to the press.). It had a new set of cards and was overclocked. Damn customs prevented it from making it. (They thought the water in the rig could be flammable... :rolleyes:)

4) Paint job.... Sigh this is why I don't paint my systems. Everyone is doing it. The paint job was OK. Falcon-NW does a far better job.

[mdzcpa]

I have to agree with you AA. Your points are well taken.

Like I said in my first post in this thread,
"Looks more like a technology demonstration than any real product destined to hit the street. I'll beleive it when i see it in retail."

I stand by that statement. In fact, I'll go on a bit further and say it was nothing but a publicity stunt. I rarely agree with the Inquirer, but, on this occasion, I certainly do.

[softpain]

It's one thing to sell it, it's another to care for it for years.

The launch of the Quad SLI system should be viewed for what it is - a paper launch of a product that is very unlikely to see the light of day...

Nvidia was unwilling to discuss the exact number of machines being made, but when I asked them, "About twenty?" They responded "That number sounds about right."
;)

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28865

[ingentingmendeg]

there are plenty of games which are gpu limited and still run faster on amd...

not to be an ass but, you have to be one of the most intel bashers ive ever seen.

[saaya]

hahaha nvidia admitted they will only build 20 of those rigs :rofl:

[RoyaL]

hahaha nvidia admitted they will only build 20 of those rigs :rofl:

and i bet they will hardy find 20 fools to buy such systems.

this is simply crazy..

to me,this kinda things sounds like I got it longer than you
now wait for Ati to present 8 cards in crossfire :D

[Gnome]

not to be an ass but, you have to be one of the most intel bashers ive ever seen.

i'll take that back the day it isn't true. Intel processors have feats, but gaming isn't one. sorry.


and i bet they will hardy find 20 fools to buy such systems.

this is simply crazy..

to me,this kinda things sounds like I got it longer than you
now wait for Ati to present 8 cards in crossfire :D

plus they come out after feb refresh -> won't have much point by then. as they say : pr stunt.

[zakelwe]

there are plenty of games which are gpu limited and still run faster on amd...

Can you give some examples ? The very expression gpu limited would tend to indicate that the cpu makes no or little difference

Have a look at this

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/cpu-games2_4.html

Ther FX-57 isn't looking very good over the Celeron D here is it ?

or this

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/cpu-games2_7.html

that's at 1024x768 and it does not matter whether you have Intel or AMD.

It's only going to get worse as well as game developers get more and more into advanced shader effects.

In my opinion it is better to wait for r580 or G7x to appear than go for this type of quad machine at present, however that still does not take away from the fact that if this machine is used for gaming and youhave the money then it does not really matter whether you use Intel or AMD IMO.

Regards

Andy

[IvanAndreevich]

F.E.A.R is one damn GPU limited game. But dang, it's so pretty :p:

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

:D O.K. - not really cheap but should bring some fun at 3D Mark......;)

Looks like U have to fix Your case somehow when using this babies - otherwise the whole rig might fall to the left side........... :ROTF: :ROTF:

:toast:

[mr_mordred2095]

Can you give some examples ? The very expression gpu limited would tend to indicate that the cpu makes no or little difference

Have a look at this

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/cpu-games2_4.html

Ther FX-57 isn't looking very good over the Celeron D here is it ?

or this

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/cpu-games2_7.html

that's at 1024x768 and it does not matter whether you have Intel or AMD.

It's only going to get worse as well as game developers get more and more into advanced shader effects.

In my opinion it is better to wait for r580 or G7x to appear than go for this type of quad machine at present, however that still does not take away from the fact that if this machine is used for gaming and youhave the money then it does not really matter whether you use Intel or AMD IMO.

Regards

Andy

I like how you didn't bother showing the next page in the same review:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/cpu-games2_5.html

[RaZz!]

I like how you didn't bother showing the next page in the same review:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/cpu-games2_5.html

and a lot of other rreviews/charts/benches:

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=238&model2=207&chart=68

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=238&model2=207&chart=69

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=238&model2=207&chart=71

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=238&model2=207&chart=51

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=238&model2=207&chart=50

etcetc....

the reason why the pentium are so close to the athlons at xibitlabs is that they used high resolution and aa... at this point the games get more gpu-limited. in lower resolutions (1024x768) without aa one can see a huge difference between amd and intel.

[zakelwe]

I like how you didn't bother showing the next page in the same review:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/cpu-games2_5.html


I did not quote that page because it is irrelevant to a quad Sli system.

I originally said

"There's no problem at all teaming up the Intel 955 with quad SLi because this is a pure gaming machine and the games it is made for are the ones that are really gpu limited, such as FEAR and COD2 etc."

Looking at that Serious Sam page we have

FX-57 = 67fps
Intel 4 670 = 64fps

If you stuck the Intel 955 in there like Dell have done then you might get 65-66. 1-2 fps difference, something you cannot spot with the naked eye. Does not matter at all whether you have Intel 955 or Amd FX-57/60 in there.

Regards
Andy

[zakelwe]

the reason why the pentium are so close to the athlons at xibitlabs is that they used high resolution and aa... at this point the games get more gpu-limited. in lower resolutions (1024x768) without aa one can see a huge difference between amd and intel.

Let me assure you that someone buying a quad Sli system will not be running at 1024x768 and will be indeed be running their system just like x-bit labs.

If you had a quad Sli system would you be running at 1024x768 ?

Anymore AMD fanboyz ? Chris Tom, you there ?


:D

Regards
Andy

[revenant]

Uhm... yeah - those systems are for very high resolution gaming... Dell's version is really matched for the 3007 (new 30" LCD)... it would be a silly waste of resources buying two card GTX SLI even for 1024x768 gaming... let alone quad SLI...

[RaZz!]

Let me assure you that someone buying a quad Sli system will not be running at 1024x768 and will be indeed be running their system just like x-bit labs.

If you had a quad Sli system would you be running at 1024x768 ?

Anymore AMD fanboyz ? Chris Tom, you there ?


:D

Regards
Andy

well, you're right - none with a quad sli would run in 1024x768. i just had the impression that the posts more likely refered to a "pure" cpu-discussion. i forgot about the fact that we're talking about quad-sli here :p:

but anyways, im not an amd fanboy - i just wanted do clear up things ;)

[Kelldor]

Interesting debate here. I have a question: In light of much criticism over the usefulness of the new dual 16x PCI-E (ex. A8N32-SLI, new MSI SLI Platinum) chipset, is it possible that if this Quad-SLI technology is adapted to AMD that the Quad-SLI setup could actually utilize the extra bandwidth of the dual 16x chipset? Or in other words, could Quad-SLI be something that could possibly actually drive an AN832-SLI? Or in that situation is that extra bandwidth still useless? Thx.

[Gnome]

Interesting debate here. I have a question: In light of much criticism over the usefulness of the new dual 16x PCI-E (ex. A8N32-SLI, new MSI SLI Platinum) chipset, is it possible that if this Quad-SLI technology is adapted to AMD that the Quad-SLI setup could actually utilize the extra bandwidth of the dual 16x chipset? Or in other words, could Quad-SLI be something that could possibly actually drive an AN832-SLI? Or in that situation is that extra bandwidth still useless? Thx.


actually seems like it wont work without 2 16x slots... it seems wired in the gigabyte 3d1 style (gpu0 uses lanes 0-7 and gpu1 uses lanes 8-16)

[zakelwe]

but anyways, im not an amd fanboy - i just wanted do clear up things ;)

No problem, as always with AMD and Intel we drifted off the point of the rig I think. The main problem with this rig is that, as people have pointed out, both nvidia and Ati are about to bring out r580 and G71 soon so this can only be described as either a spoiler or something to keep the pot bubbling by nvidia until cebit ( depending how favourable you are to nvidia). Whether it has Intel or AMD to power that quad SLi monstrosity is neither here or there when the whole thing is built around a Frankensteins monster of a video card setup.

What it does show though is that with 4 gpu's now being used in two different flavours ( 4 cards in two slots and 4 chips on two cards ) that nvidia's drivers to support 4 chips is soon to be presented I feel.

How soon will nvidia put two cores on one package/die just like Intel or Amd one wonders? Graphics have always been massively multi parallel of course, unlike cpu's. It can only be time.

Wil Ati go 4 cores as well ? Or will they just settle for better IQ ?

Regards

Andy

[Mad Pistol]

Dell partnered w/ Nvidia on this operation... It sounds like a publicity stunt to throw their numbers up even higher. Dell doesn't have a Financial deficit by any means. They sell more computers in a year than the number of cells we produce in a lifetime (not really, but it seems like it). This sounds like a stunt to keep nvidia @ the top for the time being and to make dell's numbers even higher by making some over-the-top rich freak buy an $8000 system with a cool paint job. I don't think it means anything for anyone with the G71s right around the corner. It is something to think about though...

But damn! 30" LCD!!!!???? I wish I had money.

[Gnome]

How soon will nvidia put two cores on one package/die just like Intel or Amd one wonders? Graphics have always been massively multi parallel of course, unlike cpu's. It can only be time.

actually never.

1) power
2) heat
3) no point

if you wanted to double the fillrate you'd just double the pipelines. if you tried to "dualcore" them, you'd end up with millions of transistors on one that you wouldnt be able to use... waist of silicon -> money. if nvidia wanted to double their fillrates, they'd just add more pipelines, if ati wanted to, they'd just add more of those quads...

[Razor_Sniper]

Will there be any benchmarks?

[Gnome]

Will there be any benchmarks?


i'm sure they'll post benchmarks as soon as they have a working sample which scores higher then current hardware :stick:

[IvanAndreevich]

zakelwe
How soon will nvidia put two cores on one package/die just like Intel or Amd one wonders?
That would not be a good solution, because they will be heavily bandwidth-limited. It seems that once the memory fast enough to satisfy doubling the chip performance comes out, it's already more economical to shrink the core and just increase the number of pipes/etc.