Setting up Rosetta@home

[STEvil]

How I did it:
- Went to here: http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/create_account_form.php
- Input needed info.
- Downloaded the BOINC Installer: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php
- Install it and let it get up to date/etc.
- When you are asked which project you would like to be attached to, this is the link you should put in the box: http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta
- Downloaded the optimized BOINC files for more performance (*note - you will need to shut down rosetta (boinc manager) to install the updates): http://www.guntec.de/Crunch3r/boincx86.html

**NOTE: When you install it may take time to download workunits if the servers are busy. I suggest setting your buffer to at minimum 0.5 days of work.. mine are currently set at 1.1 days but that may increase after more testing and depending on the servers.

Extra Info (performance, buffering, etc)

To increase your work Cache go into your R@H pref's here: http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/prefs.php?subset=global&updated=1 and change "Connect to network about every" from 0.1 to what you want. The resulting WU buffer will depend on the performance of your machine.

I have set my client to use no more than 50% of my virtual memory.. is there a way we can bench how this setting changes performance?

Leave applications in memory while preempted? - which setting is optimal for performance?

.. its pretty much that easy :D You can set your team, user name, etc while doing the first two steps then you just need to put in your user name and pass when you install and its all done.


Add any info you got guys, I just tossed this together in about 4 minutes as a quick guide for those who need it.

External Monitoring applications:
BoincView: http://boincview.amanheis.de/

EDIT(s)
01/22/06
Added BoincView

01/01/06
Added rosetta@home link to put into box to attach to the project.
updated recommended buffer time (0.5 days suggested min).

12/31/05
optimized BOINC clients are good, disreguard last edit.
changed buffering: buffered wu's are dependant on your machines performance so setting 0.5 doesnt give you 4wu's only.

12/30/05
update - "buffer more to 1" gives 7 wu's.
added how to buffer more wu's, testing.
added vm change
added leaving app in memory while cpu is busy
removed question on how to increase WU cache.

05/14/06
updated how to install optimized files.

[Martijn]

You mean this will be our next project?

[L0$t Pr0PhEt]

You mean this will be our next project?

There's a big chance it will yes.

[UCmajewski]

LBM is on board

[Martijn]

I will also continue with this project as soon as we are ahead of DPC...

[Entity_Razer]

Redirecting the main Rig to it also (Dual Xeon, 2.8Ghz)

[[XC]thewildblue]

I have posted in the rosetta forums about not all results being credited to our team.

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=829

Lets see what happens.

[KaptainBlaZzed]

I currently have 3 of my machines runnig rosetta, looking good so far.
I have set my preferences to only connect every 3 days and i have about 50 WU's in queue ready to be analyzed. (per machine)

Credit = 500 so far

does anybody know it rosetta favors tight timings or high bandwidth???
I am thinking it is high bandwidth but i would like to know.

[Mr_Slinky]

i am also on board came on this morning about 3am

[Rinsewand]

just installeld this (thought id have a go) and it comes up with the message "communication defferred" on the status menu in the BOINC manager?

[bullet2urbrain]

i cant get this bloody thing to work at all.... keeps saying... waiting for scheduler request.... has sat idle... really bad interface to me...

12/30/2005 11:36:23 AM||Starting BOINC client version 5.2.13 for windows_intelx86
12/30/2005 11:36:23 AM||libcurl/7.14.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8 zlib/1.2.3
12/30/2005 11:36:23 AM||Data directory: C:\Program Files\BOINC
12/30/2005 11:36:23 AM||Processor: 2 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
12/30/2005 11:36:23 AM||Memory: 1022.41 MB physical, 2.40 GB virtual
12/30/2005 11:36:23 AM||Disk: 233.75 GB total, 211.12 GB free
12/30/2005 11:36:23 AM|rosetta@home|Computer ID: 121370; location: home; project prefs: default
12/30/2005 11:36:23 AM||General prefs: from rosetta@home (last modified 2005-12-30 02:59:14)
12/30/2005 11:36:23 AM||General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
12/30/2005 11:36:24 AM||Remote control not allowed; using loopback address

[L0$t Pr0PhEt]

Indeed, quite strange if you are used to working with d2ol :p
Mine is now downloading a task (I think)

It is now working fine :)
Only using about 80mb, not that much as I expected

[Rinsewand]

yeah mine worked itself out eventually.

looks good as from what i can see, it'll carry on working on a different section of the project while it's uploading/downloading to and from the server...

(think it works like this as mine started running 2 threads whilst still downloading others)

RwD

[Rinsewand]

Only using about 80mb, not that much as I expected

i have noticed it used 80Mb of ram PER THREAD...

so those people with dual Xeons and even those with dual core processors might want to watch the useage if they use the rig for other things.

[[XC] moddolicous]

Hmmm 80mb for a single core procesor??? Thats doesnt sound too bad. BTW guys, we are the 35th producer in rosetta today alone. Once all the dust clears from this whole DPC incident, we should be higher. I think today I'm gonna help repay our F@H team for a little bit.

[bullet2urbrain]

well mine is working now... takes like 2hrs per "Thread"... runs 2 at a time....but how do i know how much "Credit" im getting for stuff...

[Rinsewand]

at a guess... when it uploads, however often you have it set to upload (see the first post as to how to change preferences) the Total Credit and Average Credit coloumns on the Project tab in the main BOINC manager will be updated.

and when you have work done, as with all good project, it'll be updated on the free-dc stats (dont think theres a link so far to the rosetta ones, so here it is...

http://stats.free-dc.org/new/teamstats.php?proj=rah&team=XtremeSystems

RwD

[KaptainBlaZzed]

here are the XS stats from the Rosetta servers

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/team_display.php?teamid=727

[L0$t Pr0PhEt]

Too bad the stats only update every 6h

[STEvil]

two more machines to set up..

was hoping to get my p1 233mmx going, but BOINC wont run on win95... :(

[nhenhophach]

I have problem. I always receive not enough space HDD.

[PS2pcGAMER]

I have problem. I always receive not enough space HDD.

You may need to increase the amount of disk space under the general preferences on the rosetta website.

[[XC] serlv]

I have problem. I always receive not enough space HDD.

"nh....", you have to go to preferences, at the website and adjust the HDD space allotted.


All I gotta say is you bastages better start cranking 'em out, or you'll never catch us...

I left Rosey to come back to participate in the barbeque, I ( I'm Essee_Ar ) fell from 5th to 12th on my Rosey team. However don't be confused by the low RAC. That is averaged in with my old RAC and factors in roughly 30 days of inactivity. I'll be zooming, better throw some coals on. My last active machine was just switched over.

Come and get us! (http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/team_display.php?teamid=590&sort_by=total_credit&offset=0) :stick: :D :banana: :p:

[L0$t Pr0PhEt]

"nh....", you have to go to preferences, at the website and adjust the HDD space allotted.


All I gotta say is you bastages better start cranking 'em out, or you'll never catch us...

I left Rosey to come back to participate in the barbeque, I ( I'm Essee_Ar ) fell from 5th to 12th on my Rosey team. However don't be confused by the low RAC. That is averaged in with my old RAC and factors in roughly 30 days of inactivity. I'll be zooming, better throw some coals on. My last active machine was just switched over.

Come and get us! (http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/team_display.php?teamid=590&sort_by=total_credit&offset=0) :stick: :D :banana: :p:

Take it easy, we are just starting this and only a fraction of our members have come to Rosetta. Wait a month and then come and see :)

[[XC] serlv]

Take it easy, we are just starting this and only a fraction of our members have come to Rosetta. Wait a month and then come and see :)

I know, I know. Just being the firestarter I am. I did it with UD at PC911, and Bitbendertech. We went quite a ways up the food chain based from a small computer enthusiast site. We did it at XPC w FaD and went all the way too No. 1, with a small crew. Until we ran into a huge Russian mob. Even then we finished second to only those Russians, after holding them off for a few months.

So, I'm running Rosey, now. Again. Got to get the fires burning white-hot! So, I'm playing. I'm your teammate from D2OL. Those with XS will be back, I'm sure. I will be.

But Rosey is where my crunching future is, and we like to see firey crunchers! w00t!

I have no doubt that XS will climb fast. People will be like WTF did they come from. Too bad we couldn't have something like an "Xtreme Alliance". But I think I know better.

Anyway, best to you all, in all of your future endeavors. Hope to see a bunch in Rosetta.

[Jeff]

All I gotta say is you bastages better start cranking 'em out, or you'll never catch us...

Come and get us! (http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/team_display.php?teamid=590&sort_by=total_credit&offset=0) :stick: :D :banana: :p:

And what is taking you so long to catch us (http://stats.free-dc.org/new/teamstats.php?proj=rah&team=Free-DC)? :stick:

:) (just completely messing around with you) ;)

Rosetta should be fun... maybe I should start doing it again... :rolleyes:

[[XC] serlv]

And what is taking you so long to catch us (http://stats.free-dc.org/new/teamstats.php?proj=rah&team=Free-DC)? :stick:

:) (just completely messing around with you) ;)

Rosetta should be fun... maybe I should start doing it again... :rolleyes:


Ahhh, ahhh, we're missing a few people? bok, PCZ, PY222, Lauren, etc! :)

And, yes, you should, bud. :)

[Martijn]

Joined the team :)

[[XC]thewildblue]

Guys the thing with Rosetta is points cant be transferred. Thats why we are down about 8000ish points as Windforce had completed these prior to joining the team. So if you want to go with XS join ASAP and make those points count.

[L0$t Pr0PhEt]

we are now doing about 2100/6h which gives us 8400/day with only 12 members on our team. This brings us in daily top20. Looking good :)

[RocKer]

Am gone give Roseta a try:D,i will put my XPM to do the job,Dimes will run also:) .

[Martijn]

My rig can download wu's, but it does only one and then stops... It refuses to dl/do more. Anyone help me please!! Is Rosetta the same as D2OL (in the way of having a work buffer of amount-X)?

[Mr_Slinky]

come on people i know i am not a top producer and i better not stay that way it just looks weird when i saw my output i was amazed at it to the point of wtf so some one better catch me.
also just a little aside i put in the website 10days and it d/l a whole bunch of work and i think it uploads everyday.

[L0$t Pr0PhEt]

come on people i know i am not a top producer and i better not stay that way it just looks weird when i saw my output i was amazed at it to the point of wtf so some one better catch me.
also just a little aside i put in the website 10days and it d/l a whole bunch of work and i think it uploads everyday.

This I'm not quite sure of myself. You can set the Connect to network how you like but does he only upload at the same amount or is this only WU's that he is caching?

I'm thinking the last but I'm not sure.

[shmaa]

Also, as Lost Prophet has mentioned before... install the SSE optomized client for AXP's and the SSE2 optomized client for A64 / P4. I saw a huge boost going to these.

http://www.guntec.de/Crunch3r/boincx86.html

[[XC] moddolicous]

These are some optimized clients for rosetta.
http://free-dc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10312
If u keep looking in the thread theres another one that even faster that someone listed. Also, it looks like nheno isnt gonna be on our rosetta team:
http://free-dc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10641:(

[STEvil]

hm.. seems the clients dont actually increase performance, just inflate your bench scores... :(

[RocKer]

How do you see that it works,al i see in tab projects is(in dutch)"communicatie uitgesteld 22:23:04"in english"communication delate to 22:23:04",in those other tabs is nothing to see,this is so for the last hour do i have to wait longer or what.

Whats the problem:confused: ?

[KaptainBlaZzed]

Guys the thing with Rosetta is points cant be transferred. Thats why we are down about 8000ish points as Windforce had completed these prior to joining the team. So if you want to go with XS join ASAP and make those points count.

i had 2600 credits and i had not joined the XS team yet, when i joined today i got to keep all of my credits and am now up to 4,675 credits.

none were lost.

oh and my X2's STOPM my DX's in rosetta. AMD whoops Intel on this project.

[shmaa]

How do you see that it works,al i see in tab projects is(in dutch)"communicatie uitgesteld 22:23:04"in english"communication delate to 22:23:04",in those other tabs is nothing to see,this is so for the last hour do i have to wait longer or what.

Whats the problem:confused: ?

Set up your preferences here.. http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/home.php

Go to "General Preferences" and set it so your computer does work while in use, etc. etc.

Assign your computer to the location you set the prefrences for by going to "View Computers"

Click update from the BOINC manager and see if you start doing work.

[Entity_Razer]

hm.. seems the clients dont actually increase performance, just inflate your bench scores... :(

Yes, BUT

If the bench scores are done wrong because the BOINC client itsself does not detect the CPU speed correctly, you will get LESS credit.

So it's important you do use these optimized client.

Nothing changes to your output, but your benchmark results are CORRECT now. They do not inflate them, they correct them. The boinc framework itsself that runs these benches does not support SSE, SSE2 etc, Rosetta however does.

So if you base your score on the boinc benchmarks you'll get less points for work you did.

It's weird and confusing but just trust me on this one. It is not cheating that you are doing it is in fact rectifying so that your CPU performance is measured correctly

[[XC] moddolicous]

read the thread, its actually pretty intersting.

[Disposibleteen]

I had some trouble at first getting rosetta up and running but now (after cleaning out a virus i found :eek: ) it works fine. Looks like this will be my new crunching project for a while.

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

switched to rosetta; BOINC hasn't gotten any work yet. it keeps saying communication deferred.

[[XC]thewildblue]

i had 2600 credits and i had not joined the XS team yet, when i joined today i got to keep all of my credits and am now up to 4,675 credits.

none were lost.

oh and my X2's STOPM my DX's in rosetta. AMD whoops Intel on this project.


Well at the moment freedc stats report us at 59,815, but if you add them together it should show 67359.

When I look at the rosetta site we go to 61116 so it appears that the points dont transfer like I said. This was explained in the thread on the rosetta cafe. Link is further up the page.

So like I said its better to join straightaway for the team as an indivual it doesnt matter as you still get ranked on total points.

[KaptainBlaZzed]

the free-dc stats update too slowwwww

i prefer to look at this page for my stats

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/team_display.php?teamid=727&sort_by=total_credit&offset=0

[RocKer]

I got work now,and its working ok now:up:.

I joint xtremesystems rightaway wen i made the account,first points showup on stats http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/team_display.php?teamid=727:woot: .

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

i'm all set up now, workin on my first WU and joined team XS.

[STEvil]

takes time to get your first WU's it seems. Might be the server is busy.

[Disposibleteen]

I joined the XS team this morning and still dont have any work done on the FDC stats page, i dont even have recognition as a team member yet. Maybe the servers are slow.

[STEvil]

update every 6 hours.

[Disposibleteen]

Thats probably why, thanks for the help.

[shmaa]

Yeah, you're showing up just fine here :toast:

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/team_display.php?teamid=727&sort_by=total_credit&offset=0

[gpcola]

I'm in :) Installed on a p3 for now but when I get home after the hols it's going on my X2.

Oh ya... Happy New Year all :toast:

[[XC] serlv]

Someone needs to do correct some spelling at XS's Rosetta page.



http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41727&stc=1&d=1136088337




Someone needs to change this to renowned (http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=66905&dict=CALD).


Anal little fecker, ain't I? :D

[mad mikee]

Doesn't this mean we should sticky this IN A NEW ROSETTA FORUM :D

Another Year, Another Project - OH FUGGER PLEASE :D (And thank you)

[leviathon-nz]

I've decided to come join the push on this project. Its looking like it could be a good one like d2ol but hopefully without the other stuff involved this time. Oh and i tryed the new client that shmaa gave a link for and it doubled my bench! (also tried the one moddolicous gave and it slowed it back down again) so Ive gone with the first one.

[Martijn]

I've got a question: my rig downloads work and is doing fine except for one thing: it does about 3/4 workunits and idles a lot in between. Now I tried to find out what was wrong here, but I didn't find anything at all.

Any help is welcome, I want my rig to run full throttle all the time :)

[Entity_Razer]

Ok... who just edited the team info? I'm the only one who can do it and I was going to, and it was edited.... time to change the password methinks

[[XC]thewildblue]

Ok... who just edited the team info? I'm the only one who can do it and I was going to, and it was edited.... time to change the password methinks


It was me remember Im XS_VIP so I have username and password in order to add clients to the account. Thought that I would just do the job while I was online.

[shmaa]

I've got a question: my rig downloads work and is doing fine except for one thing: it does about 3/4 workunits and idles a lot in between. Now I tried to find out what was wrong here, but I didn't find anything at all.

Any help is welcome, I want my rig to run full throttle all the time :)

In general preferences, is the option "Do work while computer is in use" on "no"?
If it is, set it to yes and see if that fixes our problem. :toast:

[Martijn]

It was, thanks :D

[DamienKC]

count me in guys =)

[shmaa]

It was, thanks :D

You'll have to manually update your client for new preferences to take affect. Forgot to mention that. Then you should be full throttle 24/7.

[Martijn]

You'll have to manually update your client for new preferences to take affect. Forgot to mention that. Then you should be full throttle 24/7.
I know, it said so when I pressed the 'save stats' button. It has now 4 wu's downloaded and is running 100% for the first time whilest gaming :)

[DamienKC]

alright I'm a tad confused. I installed everything like it said on the first page, now what do I do? I'm at a "Project URL" thing in the BOINC manager.

edit : OK here's where I'm at. Is this right?

[Disposibleteen]

Copy the link below into the project url place.

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/

[shmaa]

alright I'm a tad confused. I installed everything like it said on the first page, now what do I do? I'm at a "Project URL" thing in the BOINC manager.


Enter: http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta

Then it will have you create your account.

Once you have your account created, close the BOINC manager and install the SSE2 optomized files found here: http://www.bm-makler.de/setiathome/boinc/pc/Boinc_5.2.13_P4_Athlon64_SSE2.zip
Just unzip them right into the BOINC folder.

All the options for how the client runs are changed from the website found here: http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/home.php

Don't forget to join XS before you submit any finished work.

Hope that helps :toast:

[DamienKC]

Enter: http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta

Then it will have you create your account.

Once you have your account created, close the BOINC manager and install the SSE2 optomized files found here: http://www.bm-makler.de/setiathome/boinc/pc/Boinc_5.2.13_P4_Athlon64_SSE2.zip

All the options for how the client runs are changed from the website found here: http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/home.php

Don't forget to join XS before you submit any finished work.

Hope that helps :toast:

Like I said, I created everything, the optimizations are in, I just don't know how to make it start.

[DamienKC]

There's nothing under the "work" tab or anything. Pretty sure nothing is happening =P

[RocKer]

I have a Q.

How many clients can you run with a DX rig or a64 rig,is it the same as D2OL,DX rig 4 clients,ore just 1 client for 1 rig.

Can somebody inlight me:).

[STEvil]

1 client for 1 rig.

you might need to go to your preferences on the website and set it so rosetta can use up to 4 cpu's (not sure if it will use HT though).

[vapb400]

So what does rosetta prefer?
High clocked A64?
P4 with HT?

is the output of dualcore/dual processor 2x a single core in rosetta/?

[DamienKC]

Yay finally got some work. Only does 1 at a time though =\

[bullet2urbrain]

my dual core is chugging through 2 threads at a time... thats all i know.

[FUGGER]

It is asking me for project url in the installer. what goes here?

[Disposibleteen]

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta

[[XC] serlv]

So what does rosetta prefer?
High clocked A64?
P4 with HT?

is the output of dualcore/dual processor 2x a single core in rosetta/?

Rosetta definitely prefers AMD over Intel. My Opty 175 is pounding 'em out that's for sure. Not sure if it is exactly two times though. There's overhead... AMD DC is definitely king of the hill though, in Rosetta.

DX's are pretty strong, too. But not like the DCs.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I'm glad to see more XS folks are starting to run Rosetta. I think its' a great project. I just broke through into the top 100 today, am sitting at 96 or so. I think I'll be outputting at least 6,000/day, maybe 6500.

Was talking to Victor and he said how sweet it would be if XS and XPC could merge into one, in Rosetta. I agree, XPC is a power, for sure. We are getting ready to pass into 3rd overall. But FDC and DPC are in another league. XS will be a power, but I'm not sure it will get beyond the tier XPC is in. Together ( "Allied Xtreme", "XX", "Xtreme²" ? ) we'd approach the level those two are at. Probably a pipe dream.

So, anyway, get it going on and come on up. Lots of teams to pass yet! Let XS's power be known!

Onward and Upward
Scott

[Entity_Razer]

Dammit... I thought so. My DX and Sonoma 2Ghz are producing but we are getting our butts handed to us by AMD's....

BTW ser, Teams cannot merge the last time I checked... i'd like to have it. But I do not think it's possible... I know users cannot merge....(well they can but their previus work/points are not transferred along with them

[trakslacker]

ok, I dl'ed the client, have the optimized stuff installed, the boinc manager is running, but how the crap do I get work to do? I'm tired and a bit hung over, and im just really confused by Rosetta right now. Wayyy different than D2OL.

Oh and happy new year to everyone!!!

[Entity_Razer]

you added the account etc to your Boinc?

Then if the preferences are set ok go to project, click the rosetta project, and then on Update, it connects to the server then and should download work. :)

[trakslacker]

yep. figured it all out just before I checked back here. It appears to be up a running, although its gonna take a while to adjust from D2OL. ;)

Oh btw, is there a rough average of how long each unit should take to crunch for a given speed processor?

[odb]

got it installed, got the sse2 files in, set my prefs, joined the team, its waiting to grab work. anything else im missing?

[bullet2urbrain]

nope looks good to me... i wish someone would use it without the SSE2 files to give us a rough comparison....

but looks good... did you adjust the disk space and all the other stuff...

[trakslacker]

but looks good... did you adjust the disk space and all the other stuff...

If someone could link to or write up a tutorial on exactly what performance effect the different rosetta options have, that would be awesome.

[[XC] serlv]

IMPORTANT - Please note:
Let BOINC download all files, first, before shutting it off to install the optimized clients.

Let it say "finished downloading" before shutting it off to change the client.
Actually it will "say" this >> Rescheduling CPU: files downloaded, in the Messages tab/(section).

[afireinside]

I don't think I did that? IS that bad? What settings should I set and how do I join XS team?

Joined team, now how do I set it to buffer?

[[XC] serlv]

I don't think I did that? IS that bad? What settings should I set and how do I join XS team?

Joined team, now how do I set it to buffer?

Well, it is supposed to be. Plum told me when I first set it up to make sure I did that. So I've always done it that way.

Buffer? Answers above, on that one.

[L0$t Pr0PhEt]

2005-12-30 17:34:02 [---] request_reschedule_cpus: files downloaded

Just search in the stdoutdae.txt file for this.

[Acrazar]

D2OL Xtreme Watch Dog should still work to manage this app, just add the lines

rosetta_4.81_windows_intelx86=IDLE
Boincmgr=IDLE

to the settings file under processes

[L0$t Pr0PhEt]

What is Recent average credit?
It seems that mine is quite low compared to others.

[afireinside]

How does WU to credit work? I have 12 WU's done and 293 credit already. And what's the difference between RAC and daily average?

[mad mikee]

Just like D2OL :D
D2OL Xtreme Watch Dog should still work to manage this app, just add the lines

rosetta_4.81_windows_intelx86=IDLE
Boincmgr=IDLE

to the settings file under processes

[lv_dicedealer]

I'm onboard now....

Gotta figure out which client works best with which CPU.

[Rodzilla]

Wow... this is making my head spin!

I would like to give serlv and shmaa a BIG BIG BIG thanks for all the replies to questions! This is exactly what we need to get this project off the ground! :up:

Time for a new team web page! (Gotta learn this stuff for myself first before I can help others)

[D_o_S]

Joined as M Power

[Rodzilla]

Joined as M Power
DOS! :woot: Haven't seen you around in some time! :wave:

:welcome:

[DeltZ]

joined as DeltZ

won't be out putting much

(using p4 that i work and play on)

so..is there are anyway to limit the number of protein it folds at once

atm it does 2 at a time


can i make it do just 1 at a time ...more chance to finish one...and make me feel happier (hate waiting :P)

and i'm not allowed to keep PC on while i sleep so
any help appreciated here

and ..oh joy...takes 10 minutes to do 30% of one small project heh

could take a while to make any impact here :P

[afireinside]

Go to your global options on account page and set it to use 1 thread if theres multi CPUs. It's doing 2 because you have HT.

[DeltZ]

cheers

uploaded my first result

+ 11 credits woo :P

[k0nsl]

I created an account and am downloading the client along with the optimised one right now. Will be putting my X2 4400 @ 2800Mhz to work with this project.

-k0nsl

[Hardass]

On a Dual xeon rig do I need to create 4 seperate folders and install in all 4?

[Entity_Razer]

no certainly not.
Install it, and in your preferences of rosetta set the max ammount of CPU's it can use to 4. That is all you need to do :)

[Hardass]

no certainly not.
Install it, and in your preferences of rosetta set the max ammount of CPU's it can use to 4. That is all you need to do :)

Thank you.

[Rodzilla]

a multi threaded DC project! Ahhhhhh nice!

[k0nsl]

Well, after some testing, I can say that I like it already. Very interesting stuff.

-k0nsl

[Rodzilla]

I'm on the team! :up: I have a LV DX rig @ 3.15GHZ and a P4E @ 3.7GHz up and running.

This is a bit more complicated than D2OL to setup... time to get something around to make it easier (Biggest problem I had is that all the information isn't in one easy place. I was all over the place)

[lv_dicedealer]

I'm on the team! :up: I have a LV DX rig @ 3.15GHZ and a P4E @ 3.7GHz up and running.

This is a bit more complicated than D2OL to setup... time to get something around to make it easier (Biggest problem I had is that all the information isn't in one easy place. I was all over the place)

Helheim's D2OL Watchdog works great with BOINC too. Might want to get in touch with him to see about a new settings file that can be posted on your Rosetta Team site (I am assuming you are making one , right?)

[KaptainBlaZzed]

i do not use any monitoring program to set the priority to low. I have never had a problem with a DC project taking over my comp and making it really slow. even on my daily user.

oh and LV my ESC crapped out on me, it just stopped working one day so i am back to the EPoX.

just let it go:stick:

[lv_dicedealer]

i do not use any monitoring program to set the priority to low. I have never had a problem with a DC project taking over my comp and making it really slow. even on my daily user.

oh and LV my ESC crapped out on me, it just stopped working one day so i am back to the EPoX.

just let it go:stick:

The ECS wasn't bad for a free board, huh?

[k0nsl]

Guys,

Do you know how it is possible to buffer alot of work, so that I don't have to connect all the time to upload and get new work? I mean, so I can just leave it for one day, over the night, and then in the morning get new stuff?

-k0nsl

[[XC]thewildblue]

Guys,

Do you know how it is possible to buffer alot of work, so that I don't have to connect all the time to upload and get new work? I mean, so I can just leave it for one day, over the night, and then in the morning get new stuff?

-k0nsl


Change your preferences in your account at the rosetta website to connect to network every x amount of days.

[k0nsl]

Thank you, thewildblue. I set it to two days...

-k0nsl

[afireinside]

Great to have your load of firepower with us k0nsl :D Welcome to the team :woot:

Assuming you run it at all times and not just when idle you should be doing about 7000 or so a week. My daily average seems to be about 1100 a day with a good amount of gaming.

[Hardass]

Anyone know what the avg output should be for a dual 1.6 D1 rig running at 3150mhz?

[KaptainBlaZzed]

i am getting about 900 per day from my DX @ 3.2 but i only have 512mb ram and am using major swap space. I have a nother gig or ram coming in the mail tomorrow to solve this problem. I expect it to go up quite a bit once i stop using swap space all the time.

a DX crunching 4 WU's at the same time takes ~750mb RAM so you NEED a gig for a DX for sure.

[afireinside]

Are you kidding me? Running 2 WU's on my opteron rig takes 160mb ram total. My firefox is using 252mb :lol:

[Hardass]

Well this is what I have so far and I started about this time yesterday.
36) Payback 558.13 143.27
I found setup confusing and am not sure at all if I have it setup to use full power of my rig. This rig is doing just this as I have another rig that is my daily. Could someone with a rig such as mine help me by pming me the correct setting? Or post them here. Thanks for the help.

[[XC]thewildblue]

i am getting about 900 per day from my DX @ 3.2 but i only have 512mb ram and am using major swap space. I have a nother gig or ram coming in the mail tomorrow to solve this problem. I expect it to go up quite a bit once i stop using swap space all the time.

a DX crunching 4 WU's at the same time takes ~750mb RAM so you NEED a gig for a DX for sure.

Im wondering if it better to run the xeons without HT as they will use less RAM and might be slighty quicker. Im tempted to try but havent had the time.

[k0nsl]

Thanks for the pleasant welcome, afireinside :)

I think mine is capable of 1500/day or something like that. Tomorrow I will know, because I have buffered so it won't run out of work during the night. This stuff is great. BTW, the X2 is only running at a speed of 2760Mhz right now, so it will probably produce more at 2850 or 2900Mhz.

Another thing; is there ANY point in using a 800Mhz "Spitfire" for rosetta@home? Because I have one which could be used for that.

I also got a 2.8Ghz Celeron (s478) but it is currently running D2OL and it only has 256mb of ram; it needs to be upgraded.

-k0nsl

Great to have your load of firepower with us k0nsl :D Welcome to the team :woot:

Assuming you run it at all times and not just when idle you should be doing about 7000 or so a week. My daily average seems to be about 1100 a day with a good amount of gaming.

[KaptainBlaZzed]

Are you kidding me? Running 2 WU's on my opteron rig takes 160mb ram total. My firefox is using 252mb :lol:

are you sure about that???
why don't you stop boinc and check you ram usage then start it up again and check it out. I think you are fooling your self.

2 WU's at a time on a dedicated X2 takes ~425mb ram.

[k0nsl]

Mine is using ~159mb of ram, only counting work which is being processed. Counting everything it uses ~209mb of ram.

-k0nsl


2 WU's at a time on a dedicated X2 takes ~425mb ram.

[KaptainBlaZzed]

Mine is using ~159mb of ram, only counting work which is being processed. Counting everything it uses ~209mb of ram.

-k0nsl

you all are gong to have to explaine that to me because my dedicated X2 uses ~452mb and my dedicated DX uses ~750mb. these computers do nothing bu crunch, they do not even have antivirus on them. the only extra process is remotedesktop.

my non-dedicated x2 uses ~725mb ram. it is running boinc, boincview, aim, dimes, firefox and norton.

here take a look.

http://kaptain.no-ip.org/images/x2ram.jpg
http://kaptain.no-ip.org/images/dxram.jpg

is there something i missed?? are my settings in my preferences wrong??
here they are

Use no more than 30 GB disk space
Leave at least 0.1 GB disk space free
Use no more than 85% of total disk space
Write to disk at most every 360 seconds
Use no more than 75% of total virtual memory

[Vapor]

No, you are right...closing the boinc.exe tree drops RAM usage ~350MB for me (X2), restarting it reuses 340MB of it nearly instantly. I've only been at this for a few hours so mine might climb more.....all I know is that I need to go back to 2GB!!

[STEvil]

77mb at the moment on this laptop. Page file has a lot in it aside from rosetta :stick:

[afireinside]

Look at processes and not page file ;) MY page file is 791mb sitting in windows.

[L0$t Pr0PhEt]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41706&d=1135960518

maybe 90mb for everything that involves rosetta

[Rodzilla]

you all are gong to have to explaine that to me because my dedicated X2 uses ~452mb and my dedicated DX uses ~750mb. these computers do nothing bu crunch, they do not even have antivirus on them. the only extra process is remotedesktop.

my non-dedicated x2 uses ~725mb ram. it is running boinc, boincview, aim, dimes, firefox and norton.

here take a look.

http://kaptain.no-ip.org/images/x2ram.jpg
http://kaptain.no-ip.org/images/dxram.jpg

is there something i missed?? are my settings in my preferences wrong??
here they are


Use no more than 30 GB disk space
Leave at least 0.1 GB disk space free
Use no more than 85% of total disk space
Write to disk at most every 360 seconds
Use no more than 75% of total virtual memory

That's page file you are looking at in the task manager... not physical mem. Mine uses right around 90MB of physical / cpu (Or Wu)

[Vapor]

This view is more descriptive regarding what's using what...I'd prefer RAM usage statistics over commit charge at the bottom though.
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/7308/view3gf.png

[Martijn]

I am not using so much ram atm...

Boinc uses around 150Megs total, I've got some other processes running as well, but I never get above 400. I have 1GB of ram and 1.5GB pagefile.

[Rodzilla]

So far it seems to me that R@H runs a lot better with other apps than D2OL ever did... even with its increased mem usage.

[Vapor]

So far it seems to me that R@H runs a lot better with other apps than D2OL ever did... even with its increased mem usage.I COMPELTELY agree....it gets less in the way AND it still runs at a high/full speed (my D2OL production went down to 2/3rds of what it should have been SOLELY based on a lack of RAM, not even CPU usage).

[KaptainBlaZzed]

I do not care what everybody has said about the ram usage and page file usage. since i put an extra 512mb ram in 2 of my DX rigs they a docking like mad( dualxeon3, xeoncruncher) and the one with only 512mb ram (dualxeon2) is going so
slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
that i am ordering the extra 512mb ram for it right now.

it might look like it does not matter but i am convienced that you need 256mb per WU you are doing so it can run at its full potential.

all of my rigs were updated just before the severs went off-line and have been crunching for the same amount of time. i have 6 completed WU's on a DX with 1Gb and only 1 on an identical DX with only 512mb.

when i say identical i mean it everything is the same for DX 2 & 3 except 3 has 1Gb ram and different PSU's. Same case, mobo, heatsinks, HD's and they are bouth at 213 x 15 with (2-3-2-5) timings.

more RAM is better and quite a bit from what i can tell so far.

here is a nice pic for everybody to look at.
http://kaptain.no-ip.org/images/rosettaprogress.jpg

[cupra]

very nice guide STEvil .
i add my opteron 148 @ 3.2g for rosetta for now :toast:

[Movieman]

Can not connect to the server to get work, shows me in a queue of 64,000+
This is insanity...or am I doing something wrong? frustrates me when you give your machines to a project and they can't make it intuitive to set up. You'd think that with the science people they'd have at least one person with mgt experience who'd understand the importance of easy setup..
Care to speculate on the numbers of people who got frustrated and walked away just due to the setup?
Just my 2 frustrated cents......
This is what I get:
1/9/2006 5:10:46 PM|rosetta@home|Successfully attached to rosetta@home
1/9/2006 5:11:21 PM|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request to http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta_cgi/cgi
1/9/2006 5:11:21 PM|rosetta@home|Reason: To fetch work
1/9/2006 5:11:21 PM|rosetta@home|Requesting 34560 seconds of new work
1/9/2006 5:11:26 PM|rosetta@home|Scheduler request to http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta_cgi/cgi succeeded
1/9/2006 5:11:26 PM|rosetta@home|No work from project
1/9/2006 5:12:54 PM||request_reschedule_cpus: project op
1/9/2006 5:12:56 PM|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request to http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta_cgi/cgi
1/9/2006 5:12:56 PM|rosetta@home|Reason: Requested by user
1/9/2006 5:12:56 PM|rosetta@home|Requesting 34560 seconds of new work
1/9/2006 5:13:01 PM|rosetta@home|Scheduler request to http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta_cgi/cgi succeeded
1/9/2006 5:17:06 PM|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request to http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta_cgi/cgi
1/9/2006 5:17:06 PM|rosetta@home|Reason: To fetch work
1/9/2006 5:17:06 PM|rosetta@home|Requesting 34560 seconds of new work
1/9/2006 5:17:11 PM|rosetta@home|Scheduler request to http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta_cgi/cgi succeeded
1/9/2006 5:17:11 PM|rosetta@home|No work from project

[the]

are you able to do a guiless linux install?

[Movieman]

are you able to do a guiless linux install?
me? linux? moi? the seal thing?:D
I think I saw it once..;)
seriously, an OLD windows guy here. Too many braincells gone to learn linux.
\

Finally got it running after 2 hours...

[Rodzilla]

me? linux? moi? the seal thing?:D
I think I saw it once..;)
seriously, an OLD windows guy here. Too many braincells gone to learn linux.
\

Finally got it running after 2 hours...
look in your "work" tab. Do you have items there that say "ready to run" and "running" ????? If so you have work and have nothing to worry about.

[jahjahbinks]

How does Rosetta take advantage of dual-core? Is it same like D2OL where you run two instances of it?

[k0nsl]

Rosetta will automatically see if you have a dual-core processor, if it does, it will initiate two work units for processing.

-k0nsl

[wiz224]

hi all!!!

[Rodzilla]

hi all!!!
:wave: :D

[STEvil]

Wish there was a way to limit dial-up connections to small WU's (as in ones that are not over ~330kb in size).....

[Helheim]

I just added a computer for XS_VIP, more to come soon.

[RocKer]

Guy's i have a Q:).

Would 2 x DX 1.6ghz rigs @ 3.1ghz outperform 1 X2 3800 @ 2.7ghz or 1 Opty 165 @ 2.7ghz,if the differens is not that big,am looking in to it to change my little farm back to all AMD:p: ,not that the Xeon's are not good,far from,but i have to stay at 6 to 8 and if i stretch maybe +10 rigs in my farm,due to provider issues,and maybe changing to X2 and/or dual Opty,do downgrade my electric bill,a few rigs but more output,you get it;).

And what about a 3700+SD @ 3.1ghz on water,what dammage thus that baby do in R@H,and the single core Opty's?

[Rodzilla]

Guy's i have a Q:).

Would 2 x DX 1.6ghz rigs @ 3.1ghz outperform 1 X2 3800 @ 2.7ghz or 1 Opty 165 @ 2.7ghz,if the differens is not that big,am looking in to it to change my little farm back to all AMD:p: ,not that the Xeon's are not good,far from,but i have to stay at 6 to 8 and if i stretch maybe +10 rigs in my farm,due to provider issues,and maybe changing to X2 and/or dual Opty,do downgrade my electric bill,a few rigs but more output,you get it;).

And what about a 3700+SD @ 3.1ghz on water,what dammage thus that baby do in R@H,and the single core Opty's?Sounds like you would save on electricity... I'm not 100% sure that your output would go up.... If anything I would think it would fall.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

In case people aren't sure on how to change profiles on machines, you have to be logged in, and view your computers, select one, and then there will be a drop down menu at the bottom with your profiles to select from.

[krampak]

I've just installed boinc and rosseta project, joined XS team of course. Will try to do my best with my little Sandy @ 3Ghz :p

[shmaa]

I've just installed boinc and rosseta project, joined XS team of course. Will try to do my best with my little Sandy @ 3Ghz :p

Nice! Welcome to the team :toast:

[[XC] DragonOrta]

Make sure you post in the R@H members report thread. Welcome to the team! :welcome:

[eddieate]

has anybody tried installing it on a mac?
I installed it just fine but it WON'T download any work, seems strange.
also even though i joined the team a couple of days ago I'm still not on there according to stats.free-dc.org will I appear when I complete some work?
thanks,
/Ed

[gpcola]

what does boinc manager say in the messages tab eddie?

You're probably right about the reason for not showing on F-DC - you just need to get some work done :p:

[eddieate]

when i update it says;
"Sun Mar 19 17:36:19 2006||request_reschedule_cpus: project op"

and i've left it like that for hours thinking maybe it was in a queue but nothing happened...:confused:
thanks for helping guys :)
I'm gunna have rosetta running on at least 7.2ghz of A64 goodness in about a week but i'm building one of those rig's using the other to test stuff and don't have access to the third :cool:
thanks again
/Ed

[gpcola]

when i update it says;
"Sun Mar 19 17:36:19 2006||request_reschedule_cpus: project op"

and i've left it like that for hours thinking maybe it was in a queue but nothing happened...:confused:
thanks for helping guys :)
I'm gunna have rosetta running on at least 7.2ghz of A64 goodness in about a week but i'm building one of those rig's using the other to test stuff and don't have access to the third :cool:
thanks again
/Ed
Well that entry in the messages tab is only saying that an operation is occurring, but not which operation or what the end result was - is there anything more displayed there? Maybe you could post a SS or copy the entire log and paste it as an attachment? Any errors or failures are usually highlighted in red btw.

I don't run any Macs (the only person on the team that I know does is Fugger) unfortunately so I'm not aware of any gotchas with that client or if any exist even.

[eddieate]

umm kinda embarrasing in that time its started doing stuff,:rolleyes:
thanks anyway, log attached if it of any intrest to anyone.
cheers,
/Ed

[gpcola]

Lol, np - it can sometimes appear that nothings happening for a while.

From looking at the log I can see that you have it set to only crunch when the rig is not in use (which might be why you thought you had a problem lol). If that wasn't your intention you can set it to crunch always by clicking the COMMANDS menu and selecting both RUN ALWAYS and NETWORK ACTIVITY ALWAYS AVAILABLE. Alternatively you can set these options in your profile via the rosetta website.

Good luck :D

[eddieate]

yeah thanks thats done now :)
I'm gunna have to read up on how this works its alot diffrent to d2ol is each work unit worth so many credits?
/Ed

[gpcola]

Yeah it's totally different to D2OL. I won't say it's better because r@h has it's own quirks and problems but I enjoy it more than I did D2OL.

The credit you recieve is based on your benchmark score and the cpu time spent on each WU. Benchmarks are run when you first install the client and then again every 5 days following that. The time spent on each WU is controlled by a setting in your profile (http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/home.php) - click the 'View or edit Rosetta@home preferences' link on the main page and then 'Edit Rosetta@home preferences' and set the 'Target CPU run time' to the duration you'd like to run. In my experience it's best to set this as low as possible (2hrs) so that in the event of a failure or error you don't lose too many points.

[edit] forgot to say that you can rerun the benchmark at any time manually from the COMMANDS menu.

[[XC] moddolicous]

eddieate, can you run the benchmark on your mac?? What kind of mac is it?

[eddieate]

ok thanks for clearing that up gpcola, I dont see my mac having any problems as its at stock, but I'll put the Opteron and the two Venices on 2hours.
Hi moddolicous, its a 1.5ghz G4 with 1gb of DDR333, i'll run the benchmark now for you and report back when its done.
/Ed

[eddieate]

here you go:

Sun Mar 19 19:34:33 2006||request_reschedule_cpus: process exited
Sun Mar 19 19:34:34 2006||Running CPU benchmarks
Sun Mar 19 19:35:33 2006||Benchmark results:
Sun Mar 19 19:35:33 2006|| Number of CPUs: 1
Sun Mar 19 19:35:33 2006|| 761 double precision MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
Sun Mar 19 19:35:33 2006|| 2390 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
Sun Mar 19 19:35:33 2006||Finished CPU benchmarks
Sun Mar 19 19:35:34 2006||Resuming computation and network activity

/Ed

[eddieate]

ok sorry to be annoying but has anyone tried running the 64bit linux version because i tried it on a 3000+ @ 2.7ghz and it scored;

Measured floating point speed 5464.79 million ops/sec
Measured integer speed 16137.94 million ops/sec

which is nice isint it? but its all command line and im not too good with it ands cant seem to get it to download any work again.
cheers guys,
/Ed

[[XC] DragonOrta]

that is a really good score, since a 2.7ghz A64 usually scores around 3700-3800 floating, 11700-12000 integer.

[gpcola]

Wow that is some score eddie :D

To get the GUI interface running in linux you need to use 'run_manager' instead of 'run_client' btw.

I wonder if the score is higher because it's a linux client or because it's a 64bit OS :confused:

[[XC] DragonOrta]

Eddie, what distro are you running? I think I might give it a try, see if I get the same results,

[Fr3ak]

From my early experiences with the linux client I had those results:
I used a self compiled client with optimized files. Anyway my rac was only 1/3 of the rac I had later when using Win2k.
That was with a 1700+@2300mhz, 512mb ram btw.
I had some thoughts about it and using a 64bit client could be way faster than a 32bit client.
I am studying computer science, but I am a noob when it comes to Linux. Will have to ask someone for instructions to get a nice and fast gentoo 64bit up and running. Will be worth a try.
If this turns out to be it, anyone with the knowlege could upload a iso, so everyone could install it.

[eddieate]

I'm using 64-bit ubuntu, Dapper Drake release.
and thanks gpcola i'lll try that now :) I'm pretty sure its coz i was using the 64-bit BOINC as im running my opteron rig at 2.7ghz with better ram bandwidth and its not getting anywhere near that running on windows XP-64.
this is gunna be intresting if i can get it working...
/Ed

[Fr3ak]

There are some different 64bit linux boinc clients out. Which one of them did yo u use? I will try to setup a 64bit gentoo as soon as I have some free time.
Hope you get the client working in the meantime.

[RocKer]

I have about 10 Ubuntu version 5.10 64-bit Live-cd and install-cd,if somebody want's a pack,shoot me a pm:),i send it to you just for shippingcost alone;).

I have a try also,but am not a linux guy so i need help.

[eddieate]

i used the client off here http://www.guntec.de/Crunch3r/boincx86.html

[Fr3ak]

Ok I asked a mate to run the 64bit client on a 64bit gentoo.
Its a stock 3200+. The result is awesome if you ask me...
We have a stock 3200+ in the team, that scores 2700/8000 under windows.
The 64bit clients showed those results:
2006-03-21 17:44:47 [---] Benchmark results:
2006-03-21 17:44:47 [---] Number of CPUs: 1
2006-03-21 17:44:47 [---] 4000 double precision MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
2006-03-21 17:44:47 [---] 12021 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
Edit: It was a S754 3200+ with nf3. Dont know if its slower than a s939 3200+.

[eddieate]

has he actually got it running rosetta? i still cant get mine to download and start any work, just run the benchmark.
thanks, Ed

[Fr3ak]

We are still working on it.
We got this far:
2006-03-21 19:16:54 [http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/] Master file download succeeded
2006-03-21 19:16:54 [http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/] Sending scheduler request to http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta_cgi/cgi
2006-03-21 19:16:54 [http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/] Reason: Requested by user
2006-03-21 19:16:54 [http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/] Requesting 8640 seconds of new work
2006-03-21 19:17:00 [http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/] Scheduler request to http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta_cgi/cgi succeeded
2006-03-21 19:17:00 [http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/] Message from server: Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance
2006-03-21 19:17:00 [http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/] Resetting project
2006-03-21 19:17:00 [---] Rescheduling CPU: exit_tasks
2006-03-21 19:17:00 [http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/] Detaching from project

Doesnt look to bad.
What does it say for you?

[eddieate]

well it said "it said os not recognised" or something like that...
ok maybe i need gentoo
/Ed

[Fr3ak]

We messed a bit around, but the project seems to be down right now. At least its very slow, so we will delay it till tomorrow.

[Fr3ak]

I keep getting the same message now.
We tried stuff for more than 3 hours now and it doesnt seem to work.

The reason seems to be the following:
This model is possible only with projects that make their application source code available.

As far as I know Rosetta source codes aint available, which is why it doesnt work.
More info here: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/anonymous_platform.php

I will try to post and ask on the Rosetta forums about the subject.

Edit: 64bit Boinc client + Rosetta is a no-go so far.
More info here: http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=804

[masterofpuppets]

Just installed it yesterday. It's stuck on Scheduler Request Pending.. and has been for the past 10 hours.

26/03/2006 07:29:41||Starting BOINC client version 5.2.13 for windows_intelx86
26/03/2006 07:29:41||libcurl/7.14.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8 zlib/1.2.3
26/03/2006 07:29:41||Data directory: C:\Program Files\BOINC
26/03/2006 07:29:41||Processor: 2 AuthenticAMD Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 165
26/03/2006 07:29:41||Memory: 1022.41 MB physical, 2.40 GB virtual
26/03/2006 07:29:41||Disk: 14.24 GB total, 4.18 GB free
26/03/2006 07:29:41|rosetta@home|Computer ID: 185836; location: home; project prefs: default
26/03/2006 07:29:41||General prefs: from rosetta@home (last modified 2006-03-25 13:48:24)
26/03/2006 07:29:41||General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
26/03/2006 07:29:42||Remote control not allowed; using loopback address
26/03/2006 07:29:42||Primary listening port was already in use; using alternate listening port

EDIT: Never mind, changed "Do work while computer is in use?" to Yes and it's working fine now. Damn work units are slow, I'm used to D2OL's really small candidates, lol.

[426hemi]

I just set up version 4.97 last evening. All my WU's are failing with similar errors. ***unrecoverable error for result HBLR_1.0_2reb_426_1061_0 (-exit code -1073741819 (0xc0000005))*** Can anyone help?

Thanks

[gpcola]

4.97? Isn't that a ralph@home beta version number (ralph@home is the rosetta test project)? The latest version of rosetta@home is 4.83 iirc.

Anyways if all your WUs are all failing in the same manner I'd guess it's probably due to instability - Is it stable running prime95?

You might want to copy your 'messages' tab contents and post it as an attachment - there might be some relevant info in there.

Thanks for joining btw :D

[edit]

nm - it looks like I was wrong re the version number and that you're not alone with errors on those WUs (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=95458).

[rogueagent6]

Just jumpped on, been away for awhile. I'm bringing with me an Opteron 165 @ 2.2x2, a 3400 Newark @ 2.5 and a Dell PowerEdge with dual PIII @ 733. May also be getting a Dell Xenon workstation to crunch with... waiting on my IT guy to let me know I can pick one up. :banana:

[[XC] serlv]

Just jumpped on, been away for awhile. :banana:
Excellent! Welcome!

[Movieman]

Just jumpped on, been away for awhile. I'm bringing with me an Opteron 165 @ 2.2x2, a 3400 Newark @ 2.5 and a Dell PowerEdge with dual PIII @ 733. May also be getting a Dell Xenon workstation to crunch with... waiting on my IT guy to let me know I can pick one up. :banana:
Welcome to the party..BBQ starts May1..Your timing is excellent!:toast:

[rogueagent6]

Hehe... I'll bug my IT guy tomorrow for one, maybe two of those Xenon systems :D

[a5h]

i just joined rosetta under name a5h. the guide helped a lot thx! :D

got my main rig X2 3800+ running and our P3 router PC @ 733mhz :D (running 24/7 :woot: )

[a5h]

my output is kinda low. i heard an X2 at 2.7 - 2.8ghz should produce like 1500 credits a day. ive been going 24/7 for 3 days and only have 900 credits :stick:

what am i doing wrong? ive got boinc set up for "run always".

[bullet2urbrain]

optimized clients?

and what are the benches... visible under the messages tab under BOINCMGR

[a5h]

are these the optimised clients?
http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/pr...obal&updated=1
i've installed the A64 one.

under messages it says

20/04/2006 18:23:36||Starting BOINC client version 5.2.13 for windows_intelx86
20/04/2006 18:23:36||libcurl/7.14.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8 zlib/1.2.3
20/04/2006 18:23:36||Data directory: D:\Program Files\BOINC
20/04/2006 18:23:36||Processor: 2 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
20/04/2006 18:23:36||Memory: 1.50 GB physical, 2.85 GB virtual
20/04/2006 18:23:36||Disk: 68.94 GB total, 35.18 GB free
20/04/2006 18:23:36|rosetta@home|Computer ID: 205972; location: home; project prefs: default
20/04/2006 18:23:36||General prefs: from rosetta@home (last modified 2006-04-19 10:54:10)
20/04/2006 18:23:36||General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
20/04/2006 18:23:37||Remote control not allowed; using loopback address
20/04/2006 18:23:37|rosetta@home|Resuming computation for result PROD_ABINITIO_9STRANDBAR_1tul__447_20644_0 using rosetta version 498

edit: or is this wot u mean

20/04/2006 23:28:06||Running CPU benchmarks
20/04/2006 23:29:05||Benchmark results:
20/04/2006 23:29:05|| Number of CPUs: 2
20/04/2006 23:29:05|| 3781 double precision MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
20/04/2006 23:29:05|| 4938 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
20/04/2006 23:29:05||Finished CPU benchmarks
20/04/2006 23:29:06||Resuming computation and network activity
20/04/2006 23:29:06||request_reschedule_cpus: Resuming activities

[[XC] DragonOrta]

The second on you posted is what we mean. You need to re-bench until the second number is around 10000-12000

[a5h]

cool thanks. i think its ok now. hope my output is better than 300 a day now :mad:

21/04/2006 00:30:37||Benchmark results:
21/04/2006 00:30:37|| Number of CPUs: 2
21/04/2006 00:30:37|| 3799 double precision MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
21/04/2006 00:30:37|| 11598 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
21/04/2006 00:30:37||Finished CPU benchmarks

[bullet2urbrain]

much better looking should be a lil over 1000 a day now... probalby like 1150 or so i'd guess depending on use

[Repoman]

Yeah.. I found that out the hard way after trying about 5 times to install linux clients on my machine :stick:

[davidletterboyz]

Sorry, I'm a noob in these :P
I just received an invitation to join. Now it's running (installed and everything) but I didn't see any where I could put XS as my team or something like that....

EDIT: LOL....now it's XS. :banana:

[Rovtar]

Ok i have installed software and what to do bow.. how to join xs

[LP_]

Ok i have installed software and what to do bow.. how to join xs

Go to THIS (http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/team_display.php?teamid=727&sort_by=total_credit&offset=0) page and click on Join.

Welcome aboard.:)

[njkid32]

Welcome davidletterboyz & Rovtar glad to have onboard!! If you need anything please dont hesitate to ask...

[phelan1777]

Can't get a connection on school computer, figured I would install it on one machine ;) , cause my home machine is F@H., thuogh when I get my Dual core up, think I can do Rosetta and F@H?

[Movieman]

Can't get a connection on school computer, figured I would install it on one machine ;) , cause my home machine is F@H., thuogh when I get my Dual core up, think I can do Rosetta and F@H?
I don't know that anyone has done this before. It can't hurt..give it a try..if it creates too great a load you can go into preferences and turn it down to 50(50%)

[ElDuderino]

Are these numbers good for an x2 4400 at 2750mhz with 1gig of ram?

5/23/2006 1:08:28 PM||Benchmark results:
5/23/2006 1:08:28 PM|| Number of CPUs: 2
5/23/2006 1:08:28 PM|| 4719 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
5/23/2006 1:08:28 PM|| 10568 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU

[Blue078]

How do I join the XS team? Is their some forum to fill out ?
Got the email this morning saying XS needs all the help it can get, I'm willing to setup 4 boxes at work that run 24/7/365 to do what I can. It's just not clear to me how to give XS the credit.

Thanks

[ElDuderino]

What can I do to get better numbers?

Also, I'm thinking about setting up the PCs at work with this. I'm behind a firewall...will any ports need to be opened?

[Movieman]

What can I do to get better numbers?

Also, I'm thinking about setting up the PCs at work with this. I'm behind a firewall...will any ports need to be opened?
I need to get some help from some AMD guysfor you..All my equipment is intel..as for the firewall issue, Rosy will work through a proxy server, that I'm positive on. I use it with 5 PC's at home with no issues but no commercial experience..I'll try and get you someone better equiped to answer your questions

[[XC] riptide]

How do I join the XS team? Is their some forum to fill out ?
Got the email this morning saying XS needs all the help it can get, I'm willing to setup 4 boxes at work that run 24/7/365 to do what I can. It's just not clear to me how to give XS the credit.

Thanks
Not really. Not sure if I get the jist of the question...:confused: In terms of filling out a forum there is one of the stickies in this forum... 'team members report..' just blast in there and put your name down (your XS name and your Rosetta name.)
In terms of Rosetta itself... when you install the BOINC client it will prompt you for all the setting regarding your name and team etc! :cool:

[[XC] riptide]

Will check back when I get back to work and have all those PCs crying for mercy ;)
Thats the spirit!

[bullet2urbrain]

How do I join the XS team? Is their some forum to fill out ?
Got the email this morning saying XS needs all the help it can get, I'm willing to setup 4 boxes at work that run 24/7/365 to do what I can. It's just not clear to me how to give XS the credit.

Thanks

Yes Blue, you will want to enter the team name as XtremeSystems and nothing more, then you can check here after about 2 hrs to see if you have joined our team.

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/top_teams.php

this is also a friendly stats page to watch your totals grow.

http://stats.free-dc.org/new/projpage.php?proj=rah


Anyone who needs help setting up on either Linux or Windows or Mac please do not hesitate to IM Me or PM me here.

i'll be around alot today.

WELCOME :toast: onwards and upwards :toast: :up:

~James
XSTM

[Blue078]

Yes Blue, you will want to enter the team name as XtremeSystems and nothing more, then you can check here after about 2 hrs to see if you have joined our team.

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/top_teams.php

this is also a friendly stats page to watch your totals grow.

http://stats.free-dc.org/new/projpage.php?proj=rah


Anyone who needs help setting up on either Linux or Windows or Mac please do not hesitate to IM Me or PM me here.

i'll be around alot today.

WELCOME :toast: onwards and upwards :toast: :up:

~James
XSTM

OK thanks. Wanted to make sure the XS team gets the credits.

[Blue078]

Not really. Not sure if I get the jist of the question...:confused: In terms of filling out a forum there is one of the stickies in this forum... 'team members report..' just blast in there and put your name down (your XS name and your Rosetta name.)
In terms of Rosetta itself... when you install the BOINC client it will prompt you for all the setting regarding your name and team etc! :cool:

Thanks thats what I was un sure of. How to make sure the XS team gets the credit.

[[XC] riptide]

Thanks thats what I was un sure of. How to make sure the XS team gets the credit.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1467172#post1467172Theres a recent post of mine in here with a few attached screenies!

[Movieman]

Thanks thats what I was un sure of. How to make sure the XS team gets the credit.
with the BOINC manager open under team in the open field it should say XtremeSystems..if not in an hour after joining, yell back to me by PM and I'll get you through it;)

[phoeniXfury]

Hey everyone...I just got the email today and joined up. I've never done these before cus first I had extremetly slow systems...then we were constrained to electrical bills. Now that I'm at school and electrical is included...I'm gona see where I can get with my 2 systems...

Opty 170@2.7Ghz:
4523 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
12924 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU

P-M 1.6Ghz Laptop:
2282 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
9146 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU

I may add some more systems later at home...as long as my parents don't mind the power usage...lol...and maybe invite some of my friends to join up.:banana:

[njkid32]

Wonderful!!! Glad your here:)

[phoeniXfury]

I have a question...I think I read about caching WUs so that when one's done...there's no wait time...looks like my opty has WUs cached but my laptop is not doing it.

What determines this? Is it automatic based on system performance or is it user set?

[davidletterboyz]

I tried installing the optimized client on a 900mhz Athlon. It won't load. Odd thing though. If I replace the two files with the originals, the client loads up and looks like the optimized command line interface. Anyone have this problem? I have tried SSE and SSE2.
You should replace the original files to make it works.

[PkG.1337]

Yonah 3.1GHz
4577 Whetstone
9370 Dhrystone
Could it be a problem with tiny Xp?

[Haltech]

I installed Boinc 5.5.0 Windows SSE2 onto BOINC 5.4.9
but benchmarks looks like its not optimized
Yonah 3.1GHz
4577 Whetstone
9370 Dhrystone
Could it be a problem with tiny Xp?

No, i used tiny xp on my last install and cranked 460X and 14,XXX with a 3800+ @ 2500

Try rebooting the box and rebenching.

[Haltech]

Athlon prior to A64s do not support SSE2

[MicroNecessian]

Ok I want to join but is this ram intensive or just uses cpu cycles? I have a t2300 Core Duo, A64 3700, and a Celeron 3.4 to dedicate.

[Bail_w]

It just CPU cycles

[LiQU!D]

So from what it seems -"connects to the network", this program will be using my internet connection?

[njkid32]

:welcome: Yes its gonna dl the work units but then you could suspend the access but dont forget to upload your results:)

[Movieman]

:welcome:
It connects, downloads a work unit, machine "crunches" the WU, then sends it back..on a normal cable connection you will never even notice the bandwidth usage. Will work on dial up also.
Questions, feel free to ask..Glad to help out!;)

[phelan1777]

set it up, but not getting anything no projects, and no work processed.

Update: Projects running

[@_dud]

The optimization link isn't working.

[Suffocation]

joined :)

[heater918]

Good to have you aboard Suffocation :toast: were on our way to #1#1:D

[[XC] DragonOrta]

Good to have you aboard Suffocation :toast: were on our way to #1#1:D
Again. :D :woot: We're so good at it, we do it twice, just for good measure. :up:

[Praxis1452]

Hey guys this is my first post :woot: and well I've been wondering about something like this before and was like why not. Now I downloaded the client and registered at boinc. I tried to attach to the project but it always fails to connect. Now I am on 56k but I thought it would work. Slow maybe but shouldn't it work? I've got no firewalls that I know of... and I'm using AOL :( I know it sucks... a lot and I hate it too but atm that's what I'm able to use as dsl isn't in the area and cable is waay to expensive. Any idea on how to get it working? It says network communication failure btw.

I also ran the cpu benchmark and compared to you guys my p4's score is tiny :( 1489 whetstone 1845 drystone that about right?

it's stock 3.0 and oc'd to 3.5 but that's the best I can get stable at stock. The mobo a P4S800-MX doesn't have the option for voltage increases so it's as far as I can go atm anybody know how to mod it? jw

[njkid32]

:welcome: to rosetta!!! I think the project is down cuz I got an error this morning. Just hang tight till it comes back up.

[LP_]

Praxis, read the Optimization sticky, and you should see benches more like this

3175 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
11192 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU

[Praxis1452]

:welcome: to rosetta!!! I think the project is down cuz I got an error this morning. Just hang tight till it comes back up.
hmm would it have been down yesterday too? lol I set it up yesterday and it didn't work either. I bet it has to do with this Piece of :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: isp that is aol lol. I really hate them :mad: lol

btw I'll try that optimization :)

[njkid32]

I actually think it was last night come to think of it:) I only have 10 WU's left so I hope it comes up so I can dl some more.

[LP_]

I wonder if AOL will let Boinc communicate? Most any other dial up ISP is better than AOL. You might want to check around.. MSN maybe?

Opti file you should need (SSE2 for P4) is in this (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1493477&postcount=13)
thread. :)

edit- project was down earlier today, but it's been back up for a while. My rig has uploaded and downloaded wu's since then.

[Praxis1452]

3100 whetstone
6500 drystone :D

however I still can't connect :( probably on my side... somewhere heh

When I surf the web I see my internet connection jump up however whenever I don't touch it at all it stays at 0.00% and that's what happens when I try to use rosetta

anybody have aol and know how to fix this?

[mad mikee]

Just updated my 3 machines

Can we see a screenie or something of you boincmgr msgs display?

[njkid32]

Mine still wont dl any new WU's.

[Praxis1452]

6/6/2006 4:37:15 PM||Starting BOINC client version 5.5.0 for windows_intelx86
6/6/2006 4:37:15 PM||libcurl/7.15.3 OpenSSL/0.9.8a zlib/1.2.3
6/6/2006 4:37:15 PM||Data directory: C:\Program Files\BOINC
6/6/2006 4:37:15 PM||Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
6/6/2006 4:37:15 PM||Memory: 1.50 GB physical, 2.86 GB virtual
6/6/2006 4:37:15 PM||Disk: 186.30 GB total, 149.99 GB free
6/6/2006 4:37:15 PM||No general preferences found - using BOINC defaults
6/6/2006 4:37:15 PM||Local control only allowed
6/6/2006 4:37:15 PM||Listening on port 31416
6/6/2006 4:37:15 PM||This computer is not attached to any projects
6/6/2006 4:37:15 PM||Visit http://boinc.berkeley.edu for instructions
6/6/2006 4:37:16 PM||Suspending network activity - user request
6/6/2006 4:37:18 PM||Resuming network activity
6/6/2006 4:37:24 PM||Suspending computation - running CPU benchmarks
6/6/2006 4:37:26 PM||Running CPU benchmarks
6/6/2006 4:38:24 PM||Benchmark results:
6/6/2006 4:38:24 PM|| Number of CPUs: 2
6/6/2006 4:38:24 PM|| 3105 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
6/6/2006 4:38:24 PM|| 6452 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
6/6/2006 4:38:24 PM||Finished CPU benchmarks
6/6/2006 4:38:25 PM||Resuming computation
6/6/2006 4:38:25 PM||Rescheduling CPU: Resuming computation
6/6/2006 4:42:17 PM||Suspending network activity - user request
6/6/2006 4:50:30 PM||Fetching configuration file from http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/get_project_config.php
6/6/2006 4:50:30 PM||Resuming network activity
6/6/2006 4:50:51 PM||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
6/6/2006 4:50:51 PM||Access to reference web site failed - check network connection or proxy configuration.


well that's my what the messages say. I'm not good w/ taking screenshots or putting them up... heh well I guess I've just never learned how to.

[LP_]

firewall?

anybody that can help with AOL here?

I'm thinking it's some type of AOL firewall crap not letting it go through...

proxy setting?

[Praxis1452]

Any advice on how to find out proxy settings? And there is an AOL Firewall but I'm almost 100% sure it's not downloaded. I think it actually has to do with this parental control crap. I used to never have it... but then my parents one day decided that I needed it:nono: now I'm on the so called "mature teen" part of it but it used to block google as well... so now I'm thinking this might be blocking it... but I'm not sure. I'll check on my dad's account later tonight and update

[Praxis1452]

:woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: it works!!! well anyway it seems that the overly restrictive filter blocks many things... like rosetta but also pretty much anything that has to connect to the internet :( lol. My email notifier works again and I can play GW too :D

[Martijn]

:woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: it works!!! well anyway it seems that the overly restrictive filter blocks many things... like rosetta but also pretty much anything that has to connect to the internet :( lol. My email notifier works again and I can play GW too :D
Talk to your father and ask him to loosen the firewall's security settings :)

[screwdriver]

New member on board :)

[Movieman]

New member on board :)
:welcome: Glad to have you with us! My old body is headed to bed but any questions feel free to ask and if someone doesn't get them I will tonight..

[screwdriver]

I'm having problems downloading the optimized files for better performance :/ Any help?

[Jack]

Decided to join up aswell :D
I have a P4 2,8 running Rosetta now 24/7.

I'll optimize tomorrow, off to bed now!

[Martijn]

Decided to join up aswell :D
I have a P4 2,8 running Rosetta now 24/7.

I'll optimize tomorrow, off to bed now!

But do it as soon as possible!! Good you joined up! :toast:

[brot]

Decided to change to rosetta and your Xtremesystems team ;)

:toast: Hi to all...

ATM only my main desktop is taking part ( xp 2600+ ). Dual P3 800, amd mobile 2400+ and maybe even the quad 3,2 ghz xeon will follow ;)

[[XC] serlv]

Welcome to the team! BTW, that quad Xeon will kick butt in Rosey,
Thanks for joining in with us.

Scott

[RSmura]

OK, I'm new to BOINC. I have the client installed on a few machines and it's working great. I see a lot of posts about optimization but am not sure what that is exactly. I want to make sure I'm getting the most bang for my buck, so someone please clue me in. Thanks.

[[XC] serlv]

OK, I'm new to BOINC. I have the client installed on a few machines and it's working great. I see a lot of posts about optimization but am not sure what that is exactly. I want to make sure I'm getting the most bang for my buck, so someone please clue me in. Thanks.
YHPM

[RSmura]

YHPM? Is that anything like RTFM?

[[XC] serlv]

YHPM? Is that anything like RTFM?
you have private message... :)