Presler 955EE reviews

[IluvIntel]

Enjoy !

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2005/12/27/intel_pentium_ee_955/1..html

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=4210

http://www.viperlair.com/reviews/cpu_mobo/intel/lga775/presprev/

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/presler.html

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/278/1/

http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.aspx?articleid=758

[GoThr3k]

ok, its a nice performer and it overclocks well
would like to see that under -70°C 5.5 Ghz for sure
anywayz, as long as they keep it a high end product, its seems fine, cause i dont think that normal people would like to see there processor running that hot

dont forget it is launched after the fx-60 wich will beat this at stock speeds and does overclock very well also
and 2-3 months after that we got fx-65

course there is much headroom in the 955EE, wouldnt be suprised if there were broken some records with this beast

i think its nice, but not too good, the heat anyone

imo, the should build a dual-coreyonah @ 3GHz (with a tdp of 90) ; instead of messing around with netburst

[Carfax]

There's supposed to be some EE Yonahs available from INtel early next year, which will use a much higher FSB than the notebook parts; something like 1066/1333 and with higher clockspeeds.

That would be killer! With high FSB and clockspeed, Yonah should outperform the X2 in most 32-bit apps. Thats why the L2 cache in Yonah has higher latency than Dothan. It's because Yonah EE will have high clockspeeds.

With the exception of 64-bit compatability, Yonah will kick ass. I'm still waiting to see some overclocked benches from a review site.

It's a shame it didn't come out earlier though,. With Merom/Conroe looming on the horizon, it's basically a waste to spend money on a Yonah setup.

[GoThr3k]

a yonah with high FSB is useless, it doenst need the bandwidth like netburst remember??

[Who]

There's supposed to be some EE Yonahs available from INtel early next year, which will use a much higher FSB than the notebook parts; something like 1066/1333 and with higher clockspeeds.

That would be killer! With high FSB and clockspeed, Yonah should outperform the X2 in most 32-bit apps. Thats why the L2 cache in Yonah has higher latency than Dothan. It's because Yonah EE will have high clockspeeds.

With the exception of 64-bit compatability, Yonah will kick ass. I'm still waiting to see some overclocked benches from a review site.

It's a shame it didn't come out earlier though,. With Merom/Conroe looming on the horizon, it's basically a waste to spend money on a Yonah setup.I haven't heard anything about a EE Yonah, and I don't see why Intel would make one. Do you have a link?
GoThr3k: Yonah's low FSB is what holds it back. Two cores fighting over 166
are bandwidth starved.

[GoThr3k]

you are right, i had forgotten about the dualcore part
with about 800/1066 they can cut it, they dont need some insane 1333 FSB

thanks for pointing me at that

[Carfax]

I haven't heard anything about a EE Yonah, and I don't see why Intel would make one. Do you have a link?
GoThr3k: Yonah's low FSB is what holds it back. Two cores fighting over 166
are bandwidth starved.

There was this article about it on the Inq awhile back (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=21666), and then Fugger himself pretty much confirmed it in one of his posts.

Why would Intel make one? Because they are getting killed in gaming performance I'd assume, and they know there's a demand for these chips.

[saaya]

xbitlabs and other sites reported about ee yonahs several times

iluvintel, can you please post this in the news section where it belong the next time? thx :)

btw, did anybody else find the xbitlabs review weird?
the nvidia driver had problems with dualcore/multicore support so they ran all game tests locking the driver to singlecore?
thats kinda useless for a cpu with 2 cores with ht each :confused:

i wonder why they didnt use an ati card as the ati drivers dont appear to have a multithreadding issue?

EDIT: the bit-tech review is dissapointing, very short and the game tests are 800x600 no aa and no af???
and then he tested at higher settings wich seem to be 100% cpu limited and all cpus get the exact same fps?
i really expected more from bi-tech :/

te hexus review is ok...
one thing that cought my attention was that at least xbitlabs and hexus oced the cpu and posted oced results.
the fact alone that they felt it necessary to post oced results to make the review interesting and the cpu look good says a lot about it already. dont get me wrong, its not a bad cpu, but hexus put it the bst way, why doesnt it come at 3.73ghz?

it does 4.3ghz with the stock heatsink, so whats the deal?
i guess its because the mainboards dont officially support that much power consumption from the cpu?
too bad intel didnt set the standards higher, then they could have launched an up to 4ghz pressler with a heatpipe heatsink as stock cooler like amd did for their fx55.

imo 955 looks very nice, if power consumption doesnt matter its a really sweet chip, but the really good chips will be the cheaper pressler chips, they should hit similar speeds at a fraction of the cost :D
they might even cost less than the current 820!

[zakelwe]

If Cedar Mill is just a 65nm version of 90nm Prescott then they should also be cheaper, whether it will or not is another matter, somehow I doubt it.

Regards
Andy

[saaya]

If Cedar Mill is just a 65nm version of 90nm Prescott then they should also be cheaper, whether it will or not is another matter, somehow I doubt it.

Regards
Andy
well the top end pressler cpu has to be oced to beat the current top end amd cpu, so i think they will have to offer their chips for lower prices than amd to compete with them, thats what they did with the pentium d as well

[zakelwe]

well the top end pressler cpu has to be oced to beat the current top end amd cpu, so i think they will have to offer their chips for lower prices than amd to compete with them, thats what they did with the pentium d as well

True, I bet they knock off 5-10% though and not the 40% they could afford to. Am I right in thinking 65nm means the chips area is about 50% of a 90nm chip if it is exactly the same design ?

Regards

Andy

[GoThr3k]

it does 4.3ghz with the stock heatsink, so whats the deal?
i guess its because the mainboards dont officially support that much power consumption from the cpu?
too bad intel didnt set the standards higher, then they could have launched an up to 4ghz pressler with a heatpipe heatsink as stock cooler like amd did for their fx55.

this chip has already a tdp of 130W (which isnt far from it in reality)
amd fx chips have a tdp of 110W, but they will never consume that in reallife
if intel brought a chip with lets say 4ghz, that would have at least a TDP of 170-180W
thats way too much for most users, altough you guys are Xtreme, doenst mean the other users are that as well
you can almost boil an egg on that proc you know, if you overclock it get 70°C
would like to see an AMD hit 70°C wich such a small % overclock
everyone would be complaining the chip is too hot, just like the thunderbirds

but hey, intel makes chip that got even 68°C on stock => thats ok, because intel is good :slapass:

yea right, they have some serieus issues imo, most overclockers are complaining about 55°C load with amd (with some heavy overclock), i think intel is starting a new era here
70°C, no problem m8
its not good for the lifetime of your processor
if they give 3years garanty, that is a pain in the ass, although most procs last for at least 5 years, now the ones with poorer quality will fail sooner

thats the way i think about it, i am not an amd-fanboy nor a intel-hater
i am just being objective ands say things from my point of view

[GoThr3k]

well the top end pressler cpu has to be oced to beat the current top end amd cpu, so i think they will have to offer their chips for lower prices than amd to compete with them, thats what they did with the pentium d as well
true, but the pentium d doenst come even near an amd dual-core chip