View Full Version : is there a way that the yonah (Core Duo) will work on a good desktop board?
ye_3333
12-26-2005, 12:21 AM
hey guys..
i hope that the yonah (Core Duo) will be good like the dothan..
the problem is that i want to buy one but is there any mobo that is good for this yonah? or something like the st-479 that going to be for the yonah?
also can some one tell me when the yonah will come out to sell?
thanks
Victorshen
12-26-2005, 12:34 AM
afaik
aopen and asus both have such plans as desktop yonah mobo which is based on 945GT chipset
FunkyRider
12-26-2005, 04:54 AM
Yonah will be dead once Merom/Conroe family hit the market
so if you just buy it for fun, go ahead. it is not recommended to buy such a system for long term usage cuz 64-bit will be here, soon, to cover the entire computing market
cirthix
12-26-2005, 09:07 PM
ecs has talked about an i975 board for the yonah :)
i, for one, will keep this system untill the next conroe, depending on how good it turns out.
fhpchris
12-26-2005, 10:38 PM
looking for desktop boards also ! :P
cirthix
12-26-2005, 10:50 PM
guys, check this out http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=84277
ye_3333
12-27-2005, 10:33 AM
Yonah will be dead once Merom/Conroe family hit the market
so if you just buy it for fun, go ahead. it is not recommended to buy such a system for long term usage cuz 64-bit will be here, soon, to cover the entire computing market
ok soo can you tell me when the merom/conroe will be for sell?
and also wich socket thay will use?
also when the aopen i975 or asus will come out with a good mobo for it?
i think it will be agood cpu+mobo from what i have now? dont you?
thanks
flakpyro
12-27-2005, 01:42 PM
Yonah will still be worth while on the desktop, especially for people like me still running S478 Northwoods and AGP! Yonah will fill the gap during the wait for Conroe. As long as mobo support is good that is :)
K.I.T.T.
12-27-2005, 02:01 PM
Yonah will be dead once Merom/Conroe family hit the market
so if you just buy it for fun, go ahead. it is not recommended to buy such a system for long term usage cuz 64-bit will be here, soon, to cover the entire computing market
Who needs 64 bit anyway? :p:
saaya
12-28-2005, 06:43 AM
yonah is getting released in .... 5 days i think ^^
Shnorque
12-28-2005, 07:12 PM
i read somewhere that merom will be compatible on yonah motherboards. does anyone know if this is correct?
fhpchris
12-28-2005, 11:28 PM
yonah is getting released in .... 5 days i think ^^
I thought the date was the 19th? Could that be the other 955xe stuff?
flakpyro
12-29-2005, 02:20 PM
i read somewhere that merom will be compatible on yonah motherboards. does anyone know if this is correct?
Good question..would really extend the life of the board if this is true. I thought i heard somewhere that this was the case but im not completly sure.
It's not about having 64 bit or not to me, but yeah, it couldn't hurt to have it. But you simply don't need it today. When looking at cheap Semprons and Celerons with 64 bit it's a bit strange that Yonah won't have it. There are two explanations for this. Since the budget processors are based on A64 and P4 it was quite easy to give them 64 bit instructions, while doing the same for Yonah would need some more work. Intel would probably have done it if Yonah was supposed to be the top performer for more than a year = beyond the launch of Windows Vista, but now they know for sure that Merom will be ready before Vista so why worry? They will just sell even more CPU's. Yonah didn't get 64 bit because it's not worth it, it's probably the last true 32 bit CPU from Intel ever and it's successor will show up 7 months later.
People* will go "Whoah! A dual core Laptop! I must have one!", and 9 months later they'll scream "Whoah! Vista! I need a 64 bit laptop! Now why did I sell my T64 in the first place...". Conroe will show up in July AFAIK, and while Core Duo will use less power, it will also have lower performance. I see no reason for a XS guy to go for Yonah unless you upgrade more frequently than once a year, or want a laptop (and blabla..you're not XS if you keep the same system for longer than three months..blabla...*insertstupidsmiley*)
Have Intel (or AMD) ever made a top performing CPU design (and I mean core, not socket) like this one that you knew from the beginning that it would have such a short life? Yeah, it's not like it will disappear in Q3, it will stay for a while as a low power mobile CPU, but you know what I mean.
*Those people are probably not members of the XS forums.
FunkyRider
01-01-2006, 09:10 PM
Yeah, as you said, buying a Yonah to use on desktop is such a dilemma, once Merom is out, Yonah will worth nothing.
I'd rather stick on Dothan and wait for Conroe LOL
flakpyro
01-01-2006, 09:44 PM
Im having a problem deciding on what to do myself. My old 533FSB Northwood is getting long in the tooth. Im not sure if i can wait till Q3 for Conroe. Think Yonah would fill this 7-10 month gap well? Or should i just buy a 975x and cheap Pentium D and hope conroe will run on a 975x?
I would switch to conroe after Vista comes out anyway but even still i dont think it REQUIRES 64bit cpu support, i thought there was a 32 and 64 bit version of the OS.
FunkyRider
01-01-2006, 09:47 PM
Or should i just buy a 975x and cheap Pentium D and hope conroe will run on a 975x?
Don't, do not buy a product and hope it will be compatible with some future stuff, at least from Intel, it always disappoint you LOL
Im having a problem deciding on what to do myself. My old 533FSB Northwood is getting long in the tooth. Im not sure if i can wait till Q3 for Conroe. Think Yonah would fill this 7-10 month gap well? Or should i just buy a 975x and cheap Pentium D and hope conroe will run on a 975x?
You have four options IMO:
1 - Conroe, come on, you can wait for this one! I really think they will show up in July, and that's not so far away.
2 - K8, don't think you want AMD, but...
3 - Yonah, don't listen to the hype. (You'll be king for a day (or six months), fool for a lifetime. Ok, I don't mean it but I just had to write it..)
4 - 65 nm PD, well I dunno...
I would switch to conroe after Vista comes out anyway but even still i dont think it REQUIRES 64bit cpu support, i thought there was a 32 and 64 bit version of the OS.
Of course it will run with 32 bit only, don't worry.
flakpyro
01-01-2006, 10:30 PM
You have four options IMO:
1 - Conroe, come on, you can wait for this one! I really think they will show up in July, and that's not so far away.
2 - K8, don't think you want AMD, but...
3 - Yonah, don't listen to the hype. (You'll be king for a day (or six months), fool for a lifetime. Ok, I don't mean it but I just had to write it..)
4 - 65 nm PD, well I dunno...
Of course it will run with 32 bit only, don't worry.
If i go with K8 i may as well wait for M2. I think ill take the wait and see approach, see how i fair in the next batch of games this year and do what i can to hold out. If worse comes to worse i can always garb a Pd and 975 but thats only a option if the chipset can support Conroe in the future. Yonah is still a option as i can grab conroe and use the old Yonah hardware to update my aging linux box:) But for now i guess i need to take the "wait and see approach".