Wheres the 975 Boards??

[Kunaak]

I've seen the reviews for weeks now...
I've seen reviews from Asus, and Gigabyte... and MSI I think....

they all looked good.

but wheres the dang boards?
I want a new P4 Board....

gimme 975.

me...


975....

to me...


me....

[EZClock]

I believe they will start w/ VT (Second quarter of 06) along w/ the Conroes. Maybe sooner (for the 975 boards)

[Nasgul]

Why do you want a 975X when you had a hard time with your 955X?

Both boards will be exactly the same and work the same way. Or did you sell the P5WD2-Premium to get a SATA HDD finally?

[Welz]

would there be any point in running a 506 in a p5wd2 or a 975X board?

[Nasgul]

Not really, unless if down the road you were to sell the 506 for a Cedar Mill or Presler. By then the AA8XE will be not in use? If so sell it as well.

[Kunaak]

Why do you want a 975X when you had a hard time with your 955X?

Both boards will be exactly the same and work the same way. Or did you sell the P5WD2-Premium to get a SATA HDD finally?

cause not all boards are the same.

I have about 9 SATA drives here.
just they are all in my AMD machines at the moment... again.
cause yep, sure did sell my 955x.

975X looks like more fun.

[zakelwe]

I need to upgrade my ancient main / gaming machine from it's 3GHz Northwood P4 / 875 chipset motherboard to something with SLI and I am hoping that the 975 will support SLi when it comes out. I think a 975 with a Cedar Mill will be the ideal candidate. The nvidia SLi chipset does not seem to overclock very well, at least the Asus boards seem not to.

Regards

Andy

[IluvIntel]

They better get these 975x boards down to Oz quick smart, especially the Asus 975x top dog, I hear it will have the more efficient 8-phase cpu power circuitry just like the Gigabyte. I've already put deposit on 940, due early Jan 06' and now I need my 975x ! :D

Seriously thinking of Asetek waterchill system this time. :)

[Donnie27]

They better get these 975x boards down to Oz quick smart, especially the Asus 975x top dog, I hear it will have the more efficient 8-phase cpu power circuitry just like the Gigabyte. I've already put deposit on 940, due early Jan 06' and now I need my 975x ! :D

Seriously thinking of Asetek waterchill system this time. :)

975X launches with 9xx just as i875/i865 launched with Northwood C. The difference is they'll support PAT-2, 8GB of RAM, SLI and Crossfire.

Donnie27

[death metal]

I know Intel board is not really considered "xtreme", but wait next week for the most overclockable motherboard from intel =)...it's really a bad one, ax to get one quick...

[Entsafter]

955X doesn't support Crossfire?

[harleybro]

I know Intel board is not really considered "xtreme", but wait next week for the most overclockable motherboard from intel =)...it's really a bad one, ax to get one quick...
Which mobo is that?

The P5WD2 does support crossfire since I have ran crossfire on mine. :)

[saaya]

we wont see sli anytime soon on an intel chipset board...
nvidia is dominating in that area, and intel needs mvp to be able to get back to the high end market again, they know it and nvidia know it, so nvidia will ask a faour or money in return. intel is in partnership with ati though, so they went for crossfire since they probably got it for free or cheap.

so nvidia might allow sli for cheap on intel chipsets to fight crossfire, but i doubt it.

it shouldnt be too hard to hack drivers to enable sli on any board and crossfire on any board with splittable pciE lanes, and afaik all chipsets with pciE can split the lanes...
so its all a driver thing really... i hope we will see hacked drivers soon :D

[nFo]

I got this answer from my shop:

All our suppliers expect the motherboards with these chipset just after January.
Moreover the most important difference between 955X and 975X-chipsets is that the last support CrossFire and in theory SLI.

[Dr.Frankenstein]

I got this answer from my shop:

All our suppliers expect the motherboards with these chipset just after January.
Moreover the most important difference between 955X and 975X-chipsets is that the last support CrossFire and in theory SLI.

So for those of us who aren't interested in SLI/CrossFire, would going with a 955X board for the new 65nm chips be fine? I heard something about a bios update to use the new 65nm chips with the current 945/955 boards, how would you flash the bios if you don't already have a 90nm Skt 775 chip?

[illidan]

975X = 32x PCIe (2x16 PCIe CrossFire or SLi)

[Mesce]

You can go crossfire on a p5wd2 premium with the latest bios update...

I see there no reason for a 975 chipset unless you are going to get the 955XE because that has a hard time running on 955 chipsets plus the fact that the revision 2.0 will support conroe in Q4 06.

[AndreYang]

975X = 32x PCIe (2x16 PCIe CrossFire or SLi)


975X only 8X+8X

I already got Asus P5WDG2-WS from Asus B.R. . I will post in few days.

[charlie]

cedar mill @ 5ghz on AIR will be pretty fast...

C

[Unoid]

I'm considering going 975 with 65nm dual core intel this comming feb only because I dunno if I wanna wait for M2 in the summer.

[Nasgul]

975X looks like more fun. More fun? In terms of?
Will you be using a PATA HDD on a 975X also?

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I got this answer from my shop:I think the people at that shops needs a little more knowledge. The 955X does support CrossFire, the P5WD2-Premium does after flashing the BIOS to the 0606. Now tell the employees at that shop that Nasgul says so. If they don't want to believe you, tell them to check: ASUS's 955X's page. (http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?Type=All&model=P5WD2%20Premium)

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I heard something about a bios update to use the new 65nm chips with the current 945/955 boards, how would you flash the bios if you don't already have a 90nm Skt 775 chip?I see the manual of my P5WD2-Premium and see that you can update the BIOS in DOS mode, how? I'm not 100% sure but I would guess through "EZ Flash Utlity", by pressing: Alt + F2 during POST while a floppy with the latest BIOS is in the floppy drive.

Personally, I think the 955X would boot up with a 65nm but would not recognize it immediately but after the BIOS flash.....Reason why I'm saying this is because I did that when I got a (POS) DFI 915P which booted fine with an EM64T CPU but did not install windows and there were no BIOS released for that MoBo att. Then I tried a GIGABYTE 915P which I had to update the BIOS through DOS mode and system booted but CPU was not recognized either but once I updated to the latest BIOS and rebooted everything worked flawlessly.

If in doubt, the local shop can do it, mine was going to charge me $25.

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I see there no reason for a 975 chipset unless you are going to get the 955XE because that has a hard time running on 955 chipsets plus the fact that the revision 2.0 will support conroe in Q4 06.Mesce :toast: . It also seems like the 975X will be better at CrossFire than the 955X, so there's another reason to go for the 975X. SEE My single POST. (http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=4157630&postcount=40)

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On a short note, I'd like to say: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/Nasgul/icon_smile_double_fingers.gif nVidia and SLI, Intel should not or should never give nCrap 4 SLI-IE rights for 65nm CPUs at all. :nono:

[IluvIntel]

975X launches with 9xx just as i875/i865 launched with Northwood C. The difference is they'll support PAT-2, 8GB of RAM, SLI and Crossfire.

Donnie27

Its up to the motherboard vendors to apply 8-phase cpu power circuit, I'm hoping Asus or other vendors apart from just Gigabyte at this stage do this. :)

[Mesce]

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Mesce :toast: . It also seems like the 975X will be better at CrossFire than the 955X, so there's another reason to go for the 975X. SEE My single POST. (http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=4157630&postcount=40)

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On a short note, I'd like to say: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/Nasgul/icon_smile_double_fingers.gif nVidia and SLI, Intel should not or should never give nCrap 4 SLI-IE rights for 65nm CPUs at all. :nono:

yea, that is because p5wd2 is 16 and 4x pcie slots which is a damn shame and you will get more performance on 975 as well.

I was one of the unfortunate ones who thought nvidia and intel would rock and I have a msi p4n diamond and a p5nd2-sli slightly before they became fully instock and I was puddled at how bad they were.

I wont be jumping on 975 or any new motherboard until the best one is figured out plus I like the p5wd2 the most complete motherboard for a while.

[Shnorque]

Doesnt appear that the Asus board has 8phase power?

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=248&model=981&modelmenu=1

I would like to know why Asus choose to do it with the P5N32-SLi but not the P5WD2-E?

[death metal]

Which mobo is that?

The P5WD2 does support crossfire since I have ran crossfire on mine. :)

Err...Intel. Intel makes their own motherboard too ;)......

[Nasgul]

Doesnt appear that the Asus board has 8phase power?
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=248&model=981&modelmenu=1
I would like to know why Asus choose to do it with the P5N32-SLi but not theP5WD2-E?
It sure doesn't.

I would guess ASUS decided to do that with the nCrap 4 chipset because it is lame and perhaps something good like 8phse could help the chipset become what Intel's Core Logics are.

I would also guess that the P5WDG2-WS has the 8phase because of that third chipset for the PCI-X, those PCI-X cards must suck a lot of power from the MoBo, just look at the size of those slots, they're bigger than the PCI-Ex16 (http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/motherboards/asus/p5wdg2_ws/asusboard.jpg) slots.

I wonder now if Fugger when he gets his two versions is going to give us a head-to-head review in therms of overclocking power with & w/o 8phase.

My guess won't be "that" important, since that 65nm seem to overclock sky-high and consume less power, it won't need the 8phase.....heck the P5WD2-Premium took that 3.8ghz to 7.4ghz.

[Shnorque]

I would guess ASUS decided to do that with the nCrap 4 chipset because it is lame and perhaps something good like 8phse could help the chipset become what Intel's Core Logics are.

I suspect you are correct. Although if I were Asus I would slap 8phase onto the P5WD2-e anyway, surely it would be helpful at high clocks when the CPU is using more power?

[IluvIntel]

I suspect you are correct. Although if I were Asus I would slap 8phase onto the P5WD2-e anyway, surely it would be helpful at high clocks when the CPU is using more power?

By all means YES, For O/C like us who will go as far as we can afford to, 8-phase will be bonus for O/C CPU's that need extra grunt when push comes to shove !
Its suppose to run a bit cooler around the CPU area with 8-phase as well, heck even Epox have 5-phase on a 945 chipset board !

EP-5LDA+ GLi (http://www.epox.com.tw/eng/products_content.php?ps=374)

Looks like I'll be getting the WS version of Asus 975X unless Abit comes to the party with something soon.

[IluvIntel]

My guess won't be "that" important, since that 65nm seem to overclock sky-high and consume less power, it won't need the 8phase.....heck the P5WD2-Premium took that 3.8ghz to 7.4ghz.

Yes, but did'nt that board that did 7,4Ghz have Vmod on CPU ?

[death metal]

I know Intel board is not really considered "xtreme", but wait next week for the most overclockable motherboard from intel =)...it's really a bad one, ax to get one quick...

See the BX from my post about Bad Axe? ;)....INQ has tested one already: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28412


Boy, was I wrong... by mistake, I changed the default x13 multiplier not to x14, but to x15 and, when I rebooted the system, the magical 4.0 GHz clock frequency status appeared, yet I only upped the default CPU voltage by 0.025 volts. The CPU temperature as per hardware monitor jumped from 80 C to 90 C, and then pretty much stayed there over those 15 mins as I checked all the new BIOS options, some of which I saw for the first time on an Intel board.

[Donnie27]

Its up to the motherboard vendors to apply 8-phase cpu power circuit, I'm hoping Asus or other vendors apart from just Gigabyte at this stage do this. :)

All it really needs to be is FMB 2.0 and etc... The only thing blocking SLI is nVidia trying to use blocks in their drivers=P i975 has the support for the tech, so does i955 and i945, sheesh! Just nVidia acting like Slimebags they are again.:rolleyes:

i975 and i965 has both the Arbitration for Smithfield and the bypass for of this for Presler. Hell, Presler should have an easier time running that the first Hotscotts.:)

Donnie27

[Shnorque]

See the BX from my post about Bad Axe?

I did not think I would live to see the day when Intel would release an enthusiast motherboard...

[milen_bg]

here you are

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=247059

[death metal]

I did not think I would live to see the day when Intel would release an enthusiast motherboard...

;)...maybe, someone gave them a tip? ;)...