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ajhtiredwolf
12-15-2005, 11:18 AM
Hello, I was over posting at DFI-Street, and they told me that I would have better luck here with my type of question. So I am absolutely fed up with my poopy mobo, and amd looking for a different one. I was wanting to get into overclocking, and they tell me the DFI boards are best for that BUT they are extremely picky of your PSU and your memory. And because I have kinda... weird memory (EXTREME TOP, working with this XMS Corsair) I figured that probably isn't my best bet. Soo... although I hate asus (back past experiences) I was thinking maybe this one looked good http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131524
However, I wanted to get into overclocking, and im not sure if this board will be able to do it.... if there is another board you know if in this price range that can handle SLI (dont have it but want to be ready for it in the future) that can handle overclocking and will work with my system... let me know. I would very much appreciate it.
p.s Im also told my powersupply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817159023
sucks.... but most of the recommended power supplys for overclocking I see are more than my freaking mobo... nkow of a good maybe, around 50$ one? :-D
LoN3R
12-15-2005, 12:02 PM
i would suggest a better psu before you go overclocking period. the A8N32 looks nice to me aswell anyway
QuikSilver
12-15-2005, 12:08 PM
The new asus board has some nice features, but I hear the OCing ability is crap on it....stick with DFI if you want the biggest overclocks.
pcdoc1
12-15-2005, 12:13 PM
I can't speak for any other DFI boards but your memory will work quite well with the Expert.....
xtrempinoy
12-15-2005, 12:21 PM
do not get the asus A8N deluxe or lower, they have problems overclocking. but the asus A8Nsli premium and Asus A8N32 sli are both real good overclockers and is awsome for a newb overclocker, looking to get their feet wet. and still has enough features to keep the advanced overclockers happy as well.
DFI motherboards is probably for the more advanced overclocker but still is another great choice as well. their motherboards have alittle more tweaks, and voltage ranges, so if you have enough cooling, and enough experience with tweaking, this is a great motherboard compay to choose from.
from experience, ive had both the Asus A8Nsli preimum, and the DFI SLI-DR Expert, and all i can say is, the Asus A8N premium was far easier to overclock, i get the same overclocking with my DFI board, but im sure with a little time, i can squeeze alitte bit more bandwidth from my memory, because of the wider range of tweaking on the DFI bios.
For what it's worth, I have a DFI SLI-DR which has none of the problems people see on DFI board, except it doesn't like my Seasonic and RAM slots 3 and 4 do not run single-channel RAM ever.
ajhtiredwolf
12-15-2005, 01:33 PM
I was reading up on that ASUS A8n Premium, and it looks like it doesn't support ati cards... or so says one of the product reviewers. Is that true? Because I am getting an x800GTO ( the reason im getting a PCI mobo in the first place )
pcdoc1
12-15-2005, 01:49 PM
I was reading up on that ASUS A8n Premium, and it looks like it doesn't support ati cards... or so says one of the product reviewers. Is that true? Because I am getting an x800GTO ( the reason im getting a PCI mobo in the first place )No it's not true..... I ran an X800XT, X850XT, and a X1800XL in my Premium board.........
ajhtiredwolf
12-15-2005, 04:41 PM
alrighty, premium then. I think that's the one I'll get.... really pricey, but oh well, I won't have to buy another one for a while then... I hope :-P. Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it. Hey what would you recommend as a power supply?
CrashOv3r1De
12-15-2005, 04:46 PM
Get the expert you wont be disappointed my friend. Ignore all of the hysteria in the air and just do some serious overclocking. Make sure to use the beta bios it works great many ppl here have tested it.
STEvil
12-15-2005, 09:58 PM
watch the asus a8r-mvp thread.. the board is somewhat interesting ;)
Eluzion
12-15-2005, 10:05 PM
The new asus board has some nice features, but I hear the OCing ability is crap on it....stick with DFI if you want the biggest overclocks.
Says who? This has got to be one of the best overclocking boards I've ever owned. Absolutely love it. ;)
Asus A8N32-SLI all the way! It's a bit pricey though...
Capt_Caveman
12-15-2005, 10:14 PM
I was reading up on that ASUS A8n Premium, and it looks like it doesn't support ati cards... or so says one of the product reviewers. Is that true? Because I am getting an x800GTO ( the reason im getting a PCI mobo in the first place )
That's incorrect. I've been running an ATI x800xl since the beginning.
xtrempinoy
12-15-2005, 10:44 PM
yeah personally the premium is probably one of my favorate boards ive worked with, i would have gone with the A8N32 SLI, for a upgrade, but the board layout isn't the greatest, ispecially when i have a sound card, and a capture card i plan to buy for xmas, so i got the expert. 2x available pci slots.
Ic3man
12-16-2005, 01:04 AM
The new asus board has some nice features, but I hear the OCing ability is crap on it....stick with DFI if you want the biggest overclocks.
Strange...have you even read the AN832 thread? Most users come from DFI background and are getting better results than with DFI. Hardly a crap overclocker.:slapass:
jinu117
12-16-2005, 01:26 AM
For what it's worth, I have a DFI SLI-DR which has none of the problems people see on DFI board, except it doesn't like my Seasonic and RAM slots 3 and 4 do not run single-channel RAM ever.
What it doesn't like seasonic? One of my FAV psu. Funny enough, one of my Ultra D ran fine with seasonic than one day stopped working with it all of sudden. Couldn't run well with zippy 700w either but ran fine with OCZ. You could be having failing mobo if such is case. (only reason I can see seasonic or zippy refusing to boot up at that point is because the psu deemed something is not safe be it over current or over voltage...)
Andrew LB
12-16-2005, 02:30 AM
The new asus board has some nice features, but I hear the OCing ability is crap on it....stick with DFI if you want the biggest overclocks.
The new Asus A8N32-SLI so far seems to be the top dog on the street even though it does have a small issue with Asus making it so the X2 processors are limited on voltage.
do not get the asus A8N deluxe or lower, they have problems overclocking.
I just built a rig for a client on the basic Asus A8N-SLI and it clocked a 3800+ X2 to 2.6ghz with no issues. The cooler on it was a thermalright 948u and a panaflo 92mm U1A and it ran rock solid at 1.5v and idled at 37'c.
For a very experienced overclocker, go with the DFI. For a novice or someone who wants maximum stability, go Asus.
If you want the best.... go Asus A8N32-SLI. (don't let the DFI fanboys get to you) That board will give you the best of both worlds.
I personally just ordered a 3800+ x2. Asus A8N-SLI (base model), and 7800gt to go along with my Corsair XMS, RAID Raptors, X-FI audio, and coolermaster case with more than enough airflow. I'll post up results tomorrow on how well the board overclocs. If i'm unhappy for any reason, i'll blow another $100 and get the A8N32-SLI.
I've built clients systems with DFI boards and they've always been really picky about memory, timings, and voltages. I'd say to stay away unless you really know what you're doing.
What it doesn't like seasonic? One of my FAV psu. Funny enough, one of my Ultra D ran fine with seasonic than one day stopped working with it all of sudden. Couldn't run well with zippy 700w either but ran fine with OCZ. You could be having failing mobo if such is case. (only reason I can see seasonic or zippy refusing to boot up at that point is because the psu deemed something is not safe be it over current or over voltage...)
Supposedly Seasonic now ships PSUs which have been modified to power up DFI boards.
I don't know whether it was Seasonic's or DFI's problem in first place.
ajhtiredwolf
12-16-2005, 10:57 AM
I just built a rig for a client on the basic Asus A8N-SLI and it clocked a 3800+ X2 to 2.6ghz with no issues. The cooler on it was a thermalright 948u and a panaflo 92mm U1A and it ran rock solid at 1.5v and idled at 37'c.
For a very experienced overclocker, go with the DFI. For a novice or someone who wants maximum stability, go Asus.
If you want the best.... go Asus A8N32-SLI. (don't let the DFI fanboys get to you) That board will give you the best of both worlds.
I personally just ordered a 3800+ x2. Asus A8N-SLI (base model), and 7800gt to go along with my Corsair XMS, RAID Raptors, X-FI audio, and coolermaster case with more than enough airflow. I'll post up results tomorrow on how well the board overclocs. If i'm unhappy for any reason, i'll blow another $100 and get the A8N32-SLI.
I've built clients systems with DFI boards and they've always been really picky about memory, timings, and voltages. I'd say to stay away unless you really know what you're doing.
rightio, well I have a 3000+ amd 64-bit, and I was just wanting to pump it to like 3400+ for the minimum half life 2 lost coast requirements, do you think that the ASUS a8n sli deluxe or lower one could handle that easy?
Update: I just saw this board.. hadnt seen it before, looks interesting, what do you think?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131584
CrashOv3r1De
12-16-2005, 11:10 AM
Strange...have you even read the AN832 thread? Most users come from DFI background and are getting better results than with DFI. Hardly a crap overclocker.:slapass:
Wouldnt really say better than DFI. A8N32 has trengths and weaknesses. The layout is not that good and there are some other issues but all in all its a good board. eXpert just gives some more options to tweak :)
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