Best waterblocks for a two-loop WC system

[Phoenix-R]

Happy Holidays everyone! I'm new to watercooling and I really need some help with waterblocks. I'm building a two-loop system w/ two pumps and a freezer. I'm using one MCP655 w/ 1/2 tubing to chill my cpu, chipset, out the computer, into a freezer (-20c to -40c), tubing and reservoir in freezer, back to 1st pump. For the 2nd loop i'll be using another MCP655 w/ 1/2 tubing to cool my VGA, RAM, possibly my harddrive, out computer, into freezer 'etc', back to 2nd pump. Got all that :confused:. I've got the system all figured out and approved, but I have no idea what waterblocks would be the best for my system. If anybody can give some suggestions or links to good info on some outstanding water blocks I would be very appreciative. Thanks, good gaming!

[RussC]

Yur going to have all that stuff cooled by one freezer? Mmmm. You sure you want to do that?

The Swifttech blocks are used alot because there easy to insulate and give adaquate performance. Check those out.

RussC


Happy Holidays everyone! I'm new to watercooling and I really need some help with waterblocks. I'm building a two-loop system w/ two pumps and a freezer. I'm using one MCP655 w/ 1/2 tubing to chill my cpu, chipset, out the computer, into a freezer (-20c to -40c), tubing and reservoir in freezer, back to 1st pump. For the 2nd loop i'll be using another MCP655 w/ 1/2 tubing to cool my VGA, RAM, possibly my harddrive, out computer, into freezer 'etc', back to 2nd pump. Got all that :confused:. I've got the system all figured out and approved, but I have no idea what waterblocks would be the best for my system. If anybody can give some suggestions or links to good info on some outstanding water blocks I would be very appreciative. Thanks, good gaming!

[Phoenix-R]

Mmmm it is hard to say at this point if the freezer is going to be my only cooling source. I've heard that freezer units aren't designed to be on for more than a couple minutes every hour. This means that with the constant heat generated by my computer, the freezer might be overwhelmed (or at least guzzle energy like no tomorrow). Some people say I should have a 2nd cooling device that is designed to run 24/7 to help with heat management. I thought reservoir would be good but people say if my freezer 'does' actually take the heat...well then the radiator would actually work against the freezer and heat up the water. We'll see, i'm considering buying a scientific freezer which is designed for constant temperature monitoring.

[RussC]

On the freezer, what size is the condenser, is it fan cooled and what is the size of the compressor? That will tell you with that heat load if it will do the cooling you want:shrug:

RussC


Mmmm it is hard to say at this point if the freezer is going to be my only cooling source. I've heard that freezer units aren't designed to be on for more than a couple minutes every hour. This means that with the constant heat generated by my computer, the freezer might be overwhelmed (or at least guzzle energy like no tomorrow). Some people say I should have a 2nd cooling device that is designed to run 24/7 to help with heat management. I thought reservoir would be good but people say if my freezer 'does' actually take the heat...well then the radiator would actually work against the freezer and heat up the water. We'll see, i'm considering buying a scientific freezer which is designed for constant temperature monitoring.

[Phoenix-R]

I'll check it out, currently the one i'm thinking about buying is the Whirlpool EH050FXM. It's got great reviews + overall cooling ability, and it's priced at only 200$. That's a great deal for a freezer that can cool up to -40c. I'm in the middle of finals currently though :rolleyes: so i'll have to get back to you later.

[SexyMF]

Don't cool your HDD with chilled liquid. They are something which doesn't like it. A fan is adequate.

Also consider how the heck you are going to insulate everything first. I found that building the chiller was the easy part. Stopping condensation was the nightmare. Are you prepared financially and mentally if you destory some or all of your computer?. If you are totally new to even watercooling then I'd start with a more basic system.

But, all in all. Good luck:)

[Phoenix-R]

:D killer response sexy, I laughed my ass off when I read it (don't know if that was your intention but whatever). I'm working with a computer expert on building the computer, he's gonna do all the hard stuff really, so i'm sure i'll be ok, if not...well...my revenge against him will come be very sweet indeed :devil: lol. Besides watercooling is the first step in the process. I won't go beyond that with the freezer and all unless I really need to. (fat chance but you never know). I'll send in pics on the project when i've assembled all the parts, cheers :D .

[SexyMF]

Yeah, take it lighthearted ;)

Laughter is the best of medicine.

[cronic]

:D killer response sexy, I laughed my ass off when I read it (don't know if that was your intention but whatever). I'm working with a computer expert on building the computer, he's gonna do all the hard stuff really, so i'm sure i'll be ok, if not...well...my revenge against him will come be very sweet indeed :devil: lol. Besides watercooling is the first step in the process. I won't go beyond that with the freezer and all unless I really need to. (fat chance but you never know). I'll send in pics on the project when i've assembled all the parts, cheers :D .


condensation is no joke.

[[XC] moddolicous]

Cooling the hard drive is definetly worthless. You wont gain ANYTHING. A fan is find. As for the ram and chipset, they are gonna be flow killers. The ram is gonna be close to impossible to insulate well.

[Viperman5686]

Cooling RAM is damn near worthless (and hard with below ambient temperatures). Firstly, RAM doesn't even get hot. Any RAM with heatspreaders was made with cheap gimmicks in mind. A heatspreader for RAM accomplishes barely anything, and is only there to make people want to buy it, not because it gets hot.

Secondly, highly overclocking your RAM is quite pointless. High memory bandwidth doesn't mean anything unless it actually gets used, which is in synthetic tests like SiSoft Sandra, and that's about it. Low latencies are also trivial in many cases, even synthetic tests. In short, don't waste any time or money on cooling your RAM - standard cooling (none) and overclocking is enough.

Cooling hard drives accomplishes nothing and only serves to make everything else hotter. Other than that, I have nothing to say.

[yngndrw]

Low latencies are also trivial in many cases, even synthetic tests.
Uhh .. I gained 30 - 40 FPS in the CSS stress test @ full settings just by lowering my latencies .. :/ I wouldnt call that trivial.

[Viperman5686]

Uhh .. I gained 30 - 40 FPS in the CSS stress test @ full settings just by lowering my latencies .. :/ I wouldnt call that trivial.

Well, what did you have them at before? Your mobo could have defaulted to something terrible. Besides, that's not what I was talking about. I'm saying that cooling the RAM for extra overclocking would be trivial.

[LIONS*LEADER]

it would take a nearly full size freezer (unmodified heat transfer) to cool one of todays processors, much less an entire system

as i proved mathmatically here

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=418666


however if you place the evaporator into a liquid like a person did here

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=430288

it improves the heat transfer rate thus allowing the use of a (somewhat feasibly sized) freezer unit to chill water

[RussC]

Good job, nice math. Looks sound.

RussC


it would take a nearly full size freezer (unmodified heat transfer) to cool one of todays processors, much less an entire system

as i proved mathmatically here

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=418666


however if you place the evaporator into a liquid like a person did here

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=430288

it improves the heat transfer rate thus allowing the use of a (somewhat feasibly sized) freezer unit to chill water