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ultrakyo
12-02-2005, 02:55 PM
I have been receiving BSOD since my PC build (it's been about 2 weeks).
My Hardwares:
PSU: 480W http://www.startech.com/ststore/itemdetail.cfm?ProductID=ATXPOW480BLU&mt=P50
CPU: X2 4400+
Mobo: DFI SLI-D
HSF: Big Typhoon (22 low, 32 high)
Ram: 2x Z503 1GB. 2x Samsung 512, 2x (can't remember the brand) 512
HDD: 1x Raptor 74GB, 2x Seagate 400GB, 1x Maxtor 300GB, 1x WD 250GB, 1x WD 200GB
GPU: EVGA 7800 GTX KO
Soundcard: SB Live! 5.1 Plat.

I have not had the chance to overclock it yet since it has shown BSOD since the installation of WXP. First is the RAM problem (Z503), now i have switched to the older rams that i have and successfully installed the WXP. Now I have this random crashes and most often is when I play BF2 or CS Source. But it also crashes, less often though, while i am using applications such as movie player, MS Word, Alias Maya and few others.

Below are the five most recent BSODs.

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4627/dsc018058xa.jpg
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3842/dsc018060hz.jpg
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9948/dsc018075iv.jpg
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/497/dsc018110xd.jpg
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9567/dsc018127fn.jpg

PorkchopExpress
12-02-2005, 03:02 PM
A bugcheck 0x50 is generally caused by faulty hardware. 0xD1 can be caused by anything from poorly written software, incorrect BIOS or drivers, or bad hardware. 0x8e Is faulty system service or driver.

With all 3 of these coming up, I would run memtest x86 and verify your memory is good. Running Prime95 would also be helpful.

#1. Make sure you have the latest BIOS.

#2. Make sure you have the latest drivers for your devices (from the manufacture)

#3. Make sure your memory timings and settings are setup to manufactures specs.

If after these 3 steps you're still bugchecking, or failing prime or memtest, you have bad hardware or configuration. This can be figured out through a process of elimination.

EDIT: Another thing to check- Make sure your 12v, 5v, 3.3v rails are all within 5-10% from the PSU (easiest to verify with a Digital multi-meter). PSU's can mask their failures with strange behavior.

ultrakyo
12-02-2005, 04:02 PM
I have run memtest86 on my current ram and it passes all the test with no errors at all.

Could PSU cause BSOD? From the smartguardian, the +12V is showing as 11.77 but that is still withing 5%.

ultrakyo
12-02-2005, 04:19 PM
Just updated microsoft antispyware from the update menu, and it crashes to BSOD after finish installing.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4489/dsc018151ro.jpg

below is the error message after i rebooted

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5153/error9dg.png

stealth17
12-02-2005, 04:20 PM
I have run memtest86 on my current ram and it passes all the test with no errors at all.

Could PSU cause BSOD? From the smartguardian, the +12V is showing as 11.77 but that is still withing 5%.

Use a DMM to be sure. Never go by software readings, trust me!

ultrakyo
12-02-2005, 04:23 PM
Use a DMM to be sure. Never go by software readings, trust me!

Unfortunately I don't have one on hand, but i will be getting the powerstream 520 soon.

BTW, I forgot to mention that my USB printer (HP LJ1200) cannot be found after installing its driver. However, other usb devices works fine without any problem at all.

PorkchopExpress
12-02-2005, 05:01 PM
11.7 isn't low enough to cause problems. However, the use of a DMM would be best.

You have a LOT of harddrives on that system (the PSU you have SHOULD be able to handle it.)

Since you don't have a few tools, the easiest thing to do now is this-

Disconnect EVERYTHING that is not necessary for the PC to operate.

Do a clean install on the system.

Continue with your normal behavior and check for the bug check. Add each device 1 by 1 and check for the bugcheck. If after a certain point you hit the bugcheck, make a note of which peice of hardware it is, and remove it. Continue with the other hardware. If you add another drive and the bugcheck re-occurs, you're either hitting a power issue or a config issue.

You've basically hit a point where you are in more advanced trouble shooting where there isn't any one answer. Hopefully the steps above lead you to a solution.

Let us know what you find...

ultrakyo
12-02-2005, 06:06 PM
11.7 isn't low enough to cause problems. However, the use of a DMM would be best.

You have a LOT of harddrives on that system (the PSU you have SHOULD be able to handle it.)

Since you don't have a few tools, the easiest thing to do now is this-

Disconnect EVERYTHING that is not necessary for the PC to operate.

Do a clean install on the system.

Continue with your normal behavior and check for the bug check. Add each device 1 by 1 and check for the bugcheck. If after a certain point you hit the bugcheck, make a note of which peice of hardware it is, and remove it. Continue with the other hardware. If you add another drive and the bugcheck re-occurs, you're either hitting a power issue or a config issue.

You've basically hit a point where you are in more advanced trouble shooting where there isn't any one answer. Hopefully the steps above lead you to a solution.

Let us know what you find...

Yes, i was actually gonna unplug everything except for the main HDD. But I am in the midst of my exam and I need to use the PC badly for project now. I'll try that method when I am free or done with the exam. In the meanwhile I'll just try to collect all the BSOD hoping could point me to some direction (very unlikely).

New error update: Bccode 0x24
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5278/untitled6vm.jpg

PorkchopExpress
12-02-2005, 07:11 PM
Well, good news (kind of, I guess).

0x24 is a NTFS file system bugcheck.

This can occur when there is data corruption, or corrupt controller drivers (ATA, SCSI, SATA, Fibre... doesn't matter).

You might be dealing with corruption that occured with your old memory.

However, a clean install would fix this. Otherwise your still looking at a configuration problem (which most likely have to do with your multiple harddrives after taking all of your bugchecks into consideration.)

EDIT: Good luck with your exam!! :)

ultrakyo
12-03-2005, 07:55 AM
Well, good news (kind of, I guess).

0x24 is a NTFS file system bugcheck.

This can occur when there is data corruption, or corrupt controller drivers (ATA, SCSI, SATA, Fibre... doesn't matter).

You might be dealing with corruption that occured with your old memory.

However, a clean install would fix this. Otherwise your still looking at a configuration problem (which most likely have to do with your multiple harddrives after taking all of your bugchecks into consideration.)

EDIT: Good luck with your exam!! :)

Thanks...I really hope it's not hardware problem coz it takes forever to get an RMAd.