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eva2000
11-29-2005, 09:49 AM
Bought a 512MB HIS X1800XT PCI-E from Auspcmarket.com.au (http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/) and it arrived yesterday :woot:

http://fileshosts.com/videocards/HIS/X1800XT/html/photos/X1800XT_044.JPGhttp://fileshosts.com/videocards/HIS/X1800XT/html/photos/X1800XT_048.JPG

256MB BFG 7800GTX next to 512MB HIS X1800XT
http://fileshosts.com/videocards/HIS/X1800XT/html/photos/X1800XT_109.JPG
http://fileshosts.com/videocards/HIS/X1800XT/html/photos/X1800XT_113.JPG

Full pictures here http://fileshosts.com/videocards/HIS/X1800XT/html/


System

Opteron 146 CAB2E 0540FPMW Corsair Hydrocool 200 Water cooled
DFI NF4 Ultra-D R.AD0 704-2BTA bios
512MB HIS X1800XT with Cat 5.11 drivers
1x 74GB WD Raptor 10K SATA OS drive
1x 160GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA NCQ
Liteon 48x24x48x CD Burner
Floppy drive
510W PC Powercooling SLI psu

WinXP Pro SP2 - very old install left over from DFI NF4 SLI-D i had (haven't bothered to do a fresh reinstall yet)
NF4 6.53WHQL chipset drivers

Ram = 2x 512MB Gskill PC4400LE TCCD 431

Some CCC screenies:

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2.5337-8-18-2223_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/CCC/2_version.jpg
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2.5337-8-18-2223_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/CCC/3_hardware1.jpg

Default fan speed in windows is 27%

GPU @27% fan speed = 54C idle
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2.5337-8-18-2223_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/CCC/12_overdrive.jpg

Using ATI Tool set fan speed at 100% and GPU temp drops 8C at idle!

GPU @100% fan speed = 46C idle
- weird CCC shows 20C if ATI Tool is running together heh
- according to ATI Tool at idle GPU current draw = 8.2A and stock speed load GPU current draw = 21.8A - 24.5A

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2.5337-8-18-2223_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/CCC/13_atitoolB9_54-47C_100fan.jpg


http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2.5337-8-18-2223_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/CCC/14_54-46C.jpg

Overclocking Tools
Now there seems to be 3 way to currently oc the card but it seems it ain't as straight forward as first thought - see Update below as to how to properly set 3D clocks:

1. ATI CCC control panel - seems to limit max GPU clocks but loosens memory timings ALOT so that you clock mem higher using this tool.

2. X1800 Overclocking tool - available from Driverheaven.net's download section
- this seems to also loosen memory timings ALOT so you can clock mem higher, but you can clock GPU higher than that of with ATI CCC control panel. Read http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=46881&postcount=88
- Also voltage reporting is out of whack and not accurate.

2D
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2225-7-14-2222_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/3dmark_X1800XT/overclocking_tool_2D.jpg

3D
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2225-7-14-2222_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/3dmark_X1800XT/overclocking_tool_3D.jpg

3. ATI Tool 0.25 Beta 9 - http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=6615
- artifacting scanning doesn't work properly as it reports artifacts at stock (known bug)
- now this tool tightens the memory timings so much tighter than the other 2 tools above, so you can't clock mem as high.
- BUT! According to http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=80637, 600ish mhz on mem in ATI Tool 0.25 Beta 9, is already 200-300pts higher in 3dmark05 than 700-800+mhz mem in X1800 Overclocking tool apparently.
- Also voltage reporting is pretty spot on with ATI Tool.

Unfortunately, this version of ATI Tool is far from perfect for X1800XT users see
- I get this problem too when oc'ing a tad in ATI Tool screen goes blank when i hit run in 3dmark05 and other benchmarks http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=46614&postcount=58
- http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=48149&postcount=154
- http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=46739&postcount=69
- minor change in clock with ATI Tool on GPU to 600mhz and 3dmark05 completed and my ATI Tool reported GPU at 378mhz and dropped 3dmark05 score from 8,400ish to 6,900ish similar to this guy's issue at http://www.rage3d.com/board/showpost.php?p=1334041783&postcount=47

ATI Tool seems to only report the 2D speed when run first go. Here's voltages and temp panel:

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2225-7-14-2222_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/3dmark_X1800XT/ATI_tool_voltages.jpghttp://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2225-7-14-2222_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/3dmark_X1800XT/ATI_tool_temps.jpg

I think all X1800 owners should start bagging the cards oc'bility to force ATI to release their WinCLK overclocking utility that Macci used for his preview/pre-release benchmarks for his X1800XT and save us X1800XT owners the headaches we paid AUD$960-1,000+ for :nod:

Update on how to properly set 3D clocks:
- Some interesting info posted at http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1160329#post1160329

NONE of the 2 programs mess with timings guys. i tested it yesterday. people just think so becourse that oc tool dont set the actual clock that you set. thats why i wrote above that you have to use ati tool to SEE the clocks...not to SET the clocks. ati tool will show you the right clock....oc tool can show you 800/800 but ati tool will maybe show you 790/800. then the actual clock is 790/800. thats why people get confused, and think that oc tool mess with the timings...it does NOT.....it just dont set the clocks right )

#eva2000# use ati tool for volts....use oc tool for clocks...but clock the 2d clocks...(600/700 defult) :)

All these can only be used if ati smart and ati hotkey is disabled.

Yay, can confirm it works:

In service manage in windows disable ATI Smart and ATI Hotkey services and reboot pc. You loose temp reading in CCC but can use ATI Tool to view temps.
Use X1800 Oc'ing tool and set 3D desired clocks using the 2D panel
Use ATI Tool to only verify and view the 3D clocks are set correctly. So should be same as what you set in X1800 Oc'ing tool.
Whenever you set the mem clock, remember to set the GPU core clock again, or it will fall back to lower clocks and when you set the GPU core clocks again, remember to set the mem clock again, or the same will happen.
Setting voltages, OC'ing tool reports wrong voltages so DO NOT use OC'ing tool to set voltages, use ATI Tool to set voltages. Example, GPU voltage reported in ATI Tool is 1.275v will show in OC'ing tool as 1.3v. Set ATI Tool GPU volts to 1.3v will show OC'ing tool at 1.325v but the real voltage measured by DMM is closer to 1.3v as set in ATI Tool.


As you can see it works!

3dmark05 @default 621/747 clocks set in 2D panel of X1800 Oc'ing tool app.

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2225-7-14-2222_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/3dmark_X1800XT/OC_results/3dmark05_621-747_8636_tn.jpg

I then tried setting 2D clock in X1800 Oc'ing tool higher in same windows session and got:

650mhz = 648mhz real GPU 3D clock
660mhz = 654mhz real GPU 3D clock
670mhz = 668mhz real GPU 3D clock
680mhz = 675mhz real GPU 3D clock
685mhz = 681mhz real GPU 3D clock
690mhz = 688mhz real GPU 3D clock <-- had to increase and fix fan speed from 31% to 100%
700mhz = 695mhz real GPU 3D clock (upped GPU volt from 1.275v stock to 1.325v in ATI Tool - shows at 1.35v in OC'ing tool)
702mhz = 702mhz real GPU 3D clock (1.35v ATI Tool)
703-708mhz = 702mhz real GPU 3D clock
710mhz = 708mhz real GPU 3D clock (1.375v ATI Tool)
711-715 = 708mhz real GPU 3D clock
716mhz = 715mhz real GPU 3D clock (1.4v ATI Tool)
717-723mhz = 715mhz real GPU 3D clock
724mhz = 722mhz real GPU 3D clock (1.425v ATI Tool)
730mhz = 729mhz real GPU 3D clock (1.425v ATI Tool)
740mhz = 735mhz real GPU 3D clock (1.425v ATI Tool)
745mhz = 742mhz real GPU 3D clock (1.425v ATI Tool)
750mhz = 749mhz real GPU 3D clock (1.425v ATI Tool)


Note:
- interesting ATI Tool reports default GPU volt = 1.275v
- but ATI CCC according to folks measuring via DMM GPU volt default to 1.33-1.35v ????

same goes for mem clocks in X1800 Oc'ing tool

780mhz = 774mhz real mem 3D clock
800mhz = 792mhz real mem 3D clock
810mhz = 810mhz real mem 3D clock
820mhz = 819mhz real mem 3D clock
830mhz = 828mhz real mem 3D clock

840mhz = 837mhz real mem 3D clock - (artifacts when GPU voltage is stock but at 1.375v GPU volts no artifacts even though mem volts are still untouched at stock! )

850mhz = 846mhz real mem 3D clock (1.375v GPU ATI Tool)
860mhz = 855mhz real mem 3D clock (1.375v GPU ATI Tool)
870mhz = 864mhz real mem 3D clock (1.375v GPU ATI Tool)
880mhz = 873mhz real mem 3D clock (1.375v GPU ATI Tool)
890mhz = 882mhz real mem 3D clock (1.375v GPU ATI Tool)
900mhz = 900mhz real mem 3D clock (1.375v GPU ATI Tool) - artifacts

3Dmark Benchmarks

Stock cpu 10x200HTT = 2000mhz + @X1800XT clocks
stock 2D = 594/693
stock 3D = 621/747

With SIOUX's work around for X1800 Overclocking tool set

3Dmark05
with cpu stock managed

@680(675)/800(792) = 8,986 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2225-7-14-2222_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/3dmark_X1800XT/OC_results/3dmark05_675-792_8986_tn.jpg)
@690(688)/800(792) = 9,044 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2225-7-14-2222_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/3dmark_X1800XT/OC_results/3dmark05_688-792_9044_tn.jpg)
@702(702)/800(792) = 9,060 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2225-7-14-2222_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/3dmark_X1800XT/OC_results/3dmark05_702-792_9060_tn.jpg)
@710(708)/800(792) = 9,084 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2225-7-14-2222_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/3dmark_X1800XT/OC_results/3dmark05_708-792_9084_tn.jpg)
@710(708)/802(801) = 9,106 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2225-7-14-2222_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/3dmark_X1800XT/OC_results/3dmark05_708-801_9106_tn.jpg)


3Dmark2003
with cpu stock

@621/747 = 16,368 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2225-7-14-2222_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/3dmark_X1800XT/OC_results/3dmark2003_621-747_16368_tn.jpg)
@708/801 = 17,698 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2225-7-14-2222_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/3dmark_X1800XT/OC_results/3dmark2003_708-801_17698_tn.jpg)

:cool:

How sweet is this for 512MB HIS X1800XT on stock heatsink air :)

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Opteron 146 CAB2E 0540FPMW @10x280HTT = 2800mhz at stock vcore
2x 512MB Gskill PC4400LE @280mhz 2.5-3-3-6 7-14-2222

3dmark05
@621/747 = 9,235 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/280-280-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.375-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_621-747_9235_tn.jpg)
@708/801 = 10,163 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/280-280-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.375-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_708-801_10163_tn.jpg)
@742/891 = 10,795 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/280-280-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.375-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_742-891_10795_1425_2127_tn.jpg)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1504826

3dmark2003
@621/747 = 17,707 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/280-280-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.375-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark2003_621-747_17707_tn.jpg)
@708/801 = 19,169 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/280-280-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.375-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark2003_708-801_19169_tn.jpg)

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Opteron 146 CAB2E 0540FPMW @10x300HTT = 3000mhz at 1.408V
2x 512MB Gskill PC4400LE @272mhz 2.5-3-3-6 7-14-2222

3dmark05
@621/747 = 9,287 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/300-272-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.43-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_621-747_9287_tn.jpg)
@708/801 = 10,221 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/300-272-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.43-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_708-801_10221_tn.jpg)
@715/882 = 10,601 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/300-272-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.43-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_715-882_10601_tn.jpg)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1501277
@750(749)/890(882) = 10,869 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/300-272-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.43-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_749-882_10869_tn.jpg)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1501440


3dmark2003
@621/747 = 17,945 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/300-272-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.43-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark2003_621-747_17945_tn.jpg)
@708/801 = 19,449 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/300-272-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.43-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark2003_708-801_19449_tn.jpg)
@735/882 = 20,328 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/300-272-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.43-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark2003_735-882_20328_tn.jpg)

Aquamark3
@621/747 = 98,100 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/300-272-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.43-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/AM3_621-747_98100_tn.jpg)
@708/801 = 101,262 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/300-272-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.43-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/AM3_708-801_101262_tn.jpg)



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Dam local thunderstorms in the area so shutting down unecessary pc activity so this is where I am for tonight

Opteron 146 CAB2E 0540FPMW @10x310HTT = 3100mhz at 1.536v
2x 512MB Gskill PC4400LE @282mhz 2.5-3-3-6 7-14-2222

3Dmark05
@621/747 = 9,321 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/310-282-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.56-1.4-1.6-2.9_3684_dsW4dds1_9N65_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_621-747_9321_tn.jpg)
@750(749)/890(882) = 10,915 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/310-282-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.56-1.4-1.6-2.9_3684_dsW4dds1_9N65_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_749-882_10915_tn.jpg)



Thanks goes to SIOUX for the tips to get me clocking quickly :toast:



Update:

Well 23pts to go :D

And for a treat an original non-resized screenie :)

Opteron 146 @3120mhz
HIS X1800XT @749/891
3Dmark05 = 10,977 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1504916)

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/312-283-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.59-1.4-1.6-2.9_3684_dsW4dds1_9N65_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_749-891_10977_145_2140_2127.jpg

Update:

I have my 11k #4 rank on ORB now :)

3Dmark05
@749/900 = 11,007 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1506265)

GPU: 1.45v
VDD: 2.171v
VDDQ: 2.165v
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/313-283-2.5335-7-14-2212_1.59-1.4-1.6-2.9_3684_dsW4dds1_9N65_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_749-900_11007_145_2171_2165.jpg

:woot:



Had to squeeze out 900mhz on mem for that bit extra, plus tightened mem timings a tad :D


pretty nice for single card but definitely lower than what 512MB 7800GTX can do for 3d2k3 especially with dual core cpus and dual core optimised drivers. Although WarCat 5.11b drivers seem to give 1,000+ pts more than Cat 5.11

3Dmark2003 = 20,784 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4442872)

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/313-283-2.5335-7-14-2212_1.59-1.4-1.6-2.9_3684_dsW4dds1_9N65_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark2003_749-900_20784_tn.jpg


But 3Dmark2001 has always loved ATI cards

3Dmark2001 = 40,094 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8811044)

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/313-283-2.5335-7-14-2212_1.59-1.4-1.6-2.9_3684_dsW4dds1_9N65_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark2001_749-891_40094_tn.jpg

Updated: Dec 8, 2005
changed to the drivers on the HIS CD-ROM which are cat 5.11 6.14.10.6575 WHQL FM Approved versus cat 5.11 on ATI.com web site which are 6.14.10.6583 WHQL not FM approved and clocked a tad higher

512MB HIS X1800XT stock heatsink air
@756/900 = 11,049
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1530346

(currently equal 7th ranked on ORB for X1800 series OR #2 ranked for WHQL - FM approved drivers :D )

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/313-283-2.5335-7-14-2212_1.59-1.4-1.6-2.9_3684_dsW4dds1_9N65_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_756-900_11049_tn.jpg


edit:

meanwhile managed to get #2 ranking on ORB for FM approved drivers in both 3dmark05 and 3dmark2003 for X1800 series categories :cool:

Opteron 146 @3130mhz
HIS X1800XT stock heatsink air @756/900

3dmark05 = 11,049 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1530346)
3dmark2003 = 20,860 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4457652)

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/313-283-2.5335-7-14-2212_1.59-1.4-1.6-2.9_3684_dsW4dds1_9N65_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/x1800xt_orb_3d2k05_11049_tn.jpg http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/313-283-2.5335-7-14-2212_1.59-1.4-1.6-2.9_3684_dsW4dds1_9N65_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/x1800xt_orb_3d2003_20860_tn.jpg

perkam
11-29-2005, 09:52 AM
Some cpu clocks should go great with that 9k :)

Perkam

SIOUX
11-29-2005, 10:08 AM
WinCLK uses the same sensor/program to overclock as OC tool. there will be no difference :)

Macci had a press sample X1800XT with a different BIOS:)

Also..OC tool do not lower the timings. it just set a lower clock than actely showen by the program. i though that it lowered the timings as well to begin with, but after getting 12k yesterday with oc tool, i found out that oc tool just lower the clocks a little. when setting oc tool to 823/972, ati tool shows 816/972. then all i had to do was just to set the clocks again in OC tool, ands it worked. my score was exactly the same as with ati tool:)

Hicks
11-29-2005, 10:11 AM
Heheheh, nice.

I got pretty much exactly the same, with a complete stock system, at 2.2ghz, so your looking good there.

Never heard of this tool that Macci used? i think ATI should release it for the general public, totally agree with you EVA, ive just spent 400quid on this card. overclocking my 256mb GTX was far easier. If it wasn't stable, it told me it wasn't.

Hopefully rivatuner will help us out 2moro!

How good is this stock cooler? 100% fan speed is insanely loud, lol, i think 40% is max i wanna use.

CrashOv3r1De
11-29-2005, 10:13 AM
Why did you decide to go with HIS? Why not BBATI?

BTW your crazy for taking 5,000pictures of the card :slapass: HAHA jk

Great review bro :)

Hicks
11-29-2005, 10:15 AM
Why did you decide to go with HIS? Why not BBATI?

BTW your crazy for taking 5,000pictures of the card :slapass:

Price? availabilty? it doesn't really matter at all, there all the same, just a different sticker.

SIOUX
11-29-2005, 10:15 AM
Heheheh, nice.

I got pretty much exactly the same, with a complete stock system, at 2.2ghz, so your looking good there.

Never heard of this tool that Macci used? i think ATI should release it for the general public, totally agree with you EVA, ive just spent 400quid on this card. overclocking my 256mb GTX was far easier. If it wasn't stable, it told me it wasn't.

Hopefully rivatuner will help us out 2moro!

How good is this stock cooler? 100% fan speed is insanely loud, lol, i think 40% is max i wanna use.


like i wrote above......the tool from ATI called WinCLK uses the same program to oc the card as OC tool. there would be no difference in overclocking with that or OC tool:)

eva2000
11-29-2005, 10:36 AM
Ah didn't know Winclk used same sensors :)

Yeah went a wee bit overboard with the photos :D

Went with HIS due to availability, retailer had 2 cards in stock everywhere else had ETAs between 1-3 weeks smack bang into Xmas holiday closures heh

Yeah 100% fan speed is loud and whiny, even for me who has 6x 190cfm delta fans LOL... probably around 75-80% fan speed is ideal for me

ugp
11-29-2005, 10:43 AM
I went with the HIS as well...seems to be a very nice card.

Hey eva2000 can you PM me when you find your highest OC on that card? And then I can compare mine to yours.

CrashOv3r1De
11-29-2005, 10:57 AM
I ordered a BBATI X1800 Xt from ZZF. Should get it in 2days with my RDX200 CF-DR (also got an eXpert here). Will buy a CF mastercard as soon as they are avail. Now I am buying videocards the day they are out I learned my lesson. Had a chance to buy a 7800GTX 512 from Newegg day it came out for $700 (before price went up to $750) but I was like nahhh its only going to get cheaper. Sure learned my lesson. Now its immpossible to get. Period.

Eva did you decide to go with the x1800xt because of a lack of gtx 512mb availability or you reallly wanted to play with this card?

When are you going to put this card on your FX57 want to see how high of a 3d 05 score you can get :toast:

eva2000
11-29-2005, 10:59 AM
Yeah will do... off to bed now at 5am LOL :yawn:


Eva did you decide to go with the x1800xt because of a lack of gtx 512mb availability or you reallly wanted to play with this card?

When are you going to put this card on your FX57 want to see how high of a 3d 05 score you can get :toast:
Yeah lack of immediately availability of 512MB 7800GTX, ETA on XFX was like 2-3 weeks and Leadtek was out

Apparently Nvidia is keeping most of them in USA so allocation to Australia is scarce like there's less than a dozen or 2 for whole of Australia!

But I'm getting a BFG 7800GTX 512MB too :D

This Opteron of mine does 3130mhz at 1.536 to 1.568v on Hydrocool 200 water - my single 256MB BFG 7800GTX stock heatsink score of 9,644

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/OCZ/PC4000EB/2_1/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/166/313-260-3325-7-14-2223_1.59-1.4-1.6-2.66_1552_dsN4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/3dmark_noSLI/3dmark05_564-1409_9644_tn.jpg

zabomb4163
11-29-2005, 11:43 AM
whats the highest you can score in 3dmark using the 7800gtx 256. interested in the comparison.

G H Z
11-29-2005, 12:01 PM
Also..OC tool do not lower the timings. it just set a lower clock than actely showen by the program. i though that it lowered the timings as well to begin with, but after getting 12k yesterday with oc tool, i found out that oc tool just lower the clocks a little. when setting oc tool to 823/972, ati tool shows 816/972. then all i had to do was just to set the clocks again in OC tool, ands it worked. my score was exactly the same as with ati tool:)

Try running with ATI Tool only, no Overclocker. You will see that a much lower memory speed scores higher than a similar clock using Overclocker ;) Remember, once overclocker is opened whatever it does cannot be undone until re-boot.

Here's some examples on my XL with same CPU Mhz

675/909 = 10,105 via Overclocker

668/703 = 10,145 via ATI Tool

I actually prefer Overclocker. It is harder for me to reach the same scores running ATI Tool. Even though I have beaten my Overclocker score by a small amount, it took alot of work to get there.

SIOUX
11-29-2005, 12:35 PM
Try running with ATI Tool only, no Overclocker. You will see that a much lower memory speed scores higher than a similar clock using Overclocker ;) Remember, once overclocker is opened whatever it does cannot be undone until re-boot.

Here's some examples on my XL with same CPU Mhz

675/909 = 10,105 via Overclocker

668/703 = 10,145 via ATI Tool

I actually prefer Overclocker. It is harder for me to reach the same scores running ATI Tool. Even though I have beaten my Overclocker score by a small amount, it took alot of work to get there.


I did run ati tool alone without oc tool open at any time. the results are exactly the same here. the thing that make people believe that it mess with the mem timings is, that the oc tool can show you 800/800 but it will infact be 790/800. set the clocks 2 times with the same clocks, and the result is exactly the same. i tested it yesterday ;)

when you set your clocks to 675/909 with oc tool, then the actual clock is around 660/909. check with ati tool, and you will see the correct clocks.

Dynasty
11-29-2005, 04:41 PM
nice card eva :toast: hope it clocks well for you.

eva2000
11-29-2005, 05:20 PM
Thanks Dynasty :)

whats the highest you can score in 3dmark using the 7800gtx 256. interested in the comparison.

max are in my sig's compare urls :)

ugp
11-29-2005, 05:27 PM
I wouldn't mind getting my hands on a nice Opteron CPU. They look like they are really nice.

eva2000
11-29-2005, 07:07 PM
Yeah opterons are :cool:

question for SIOUX and others

- interesting ATI Tool reports default GPU volt = 1.275v
- but ATI CCC according to folks measuring via DMM GPU volt default to 1.33-1.35v ????

which is the default GPU voltage for X1800XT ?


@702(702)/800(792)

3dmark05 = 9,060

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2225-7-14-2222_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/3dmark_X1800XT/OC_results/3dmark05_702-792_9060_tn.jpg

ugp
11-29-2005, 07:18 PM
They really need to get a program out there that will do it all and not have any problems at all...

*Needs Patience*


Oh also...

For some reason VSync will not disable for me...

I have it disabled in ATI CCC but all my games are capped at 70FPS? Does anyone know why this is?

Dynasty
11-29-2005, 07:40 PM
Yeah opterons are :cool:

question for SIOUX and others

- interesting ATI Tool reports default GPU volt = 1.275v
- but ATI CCC according to folks measuring via DMM GPU volt default to 1.33-1.35v ????

which is the default GPU voltage for X1800XT ?


I go by whatever is measured on my DMM as being correct.
In my case default voltages on my
Connect 3D are 1.3 vgpu , 2.15 VDDC , 2.15 VDDQ this is with default voltages set in ATI TOOL 0.25/9.

eva2000
11-29-2005, 07:47 PM
so 1.275v ATI Tool = 1.3v via DMM approximately :)

better formatted results at stock 2000mhz

3Dmark05
with cpu stock managed

@680(675)/800(792) = 8,986 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2225-7-14-2222_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/3dmark_X1800XT/OC_results/3dmark05_675-792_8986_tn.jpg)
@690(688)/800(792) = 9,044 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2225-7-14-2222_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/3dmark_X1800XT/OC_results/3dmark05_688-792_9044_tn.jpg)
@702(702)/800(792) = 9,060 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2225-7-14-2222_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/3dmark_X1800XT/OC_results/3dmark05_702-792_9060_tn.jpg)
@710(708)/800(792) = 9,084 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2225-7-14-2222_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/3dmark_X1800XT/OC_results/3dmark05_708-792_9084_tn.jpg)

Dynasty
11-29-2005, 07:52 PM
so 1.275v ATI Tool = 1.3v via DMM approximately :)



Yep, just tried again and used two different DMM's both giving me
same result of 1.30 vgpu.
PSU I am using on my test set up is Ocz 600W powerstream.

FUGGER
11-29-2005, 08:04 PM
I know OC tool is reading a hex value to get the data displayed. It is not reading actual value.

Good read George

eva2000
11-29-2005, 08:04 PM
ah Sampsa measured 1.31v too http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1075680#post1075680 :)

I know OC tool is reading a value hex value to get the data displayed. It is not reading actual value.

Good read George

Thanks :)

Now to work on mem clocks.. does mem clock potential rise when GPU volt is increased too ?

rodman
11-29-2005, 08:07 PM
Had a chance to buy a 7800GTX 512 from Newegg day it came out for $700 (before price went up to $750) but I was like nahhh its only going to get cheaper. Sure learned my lesson. Now its immpossible to get. Period.

The BFG 512s were in stock for a few hours Yesterday ;)

FUGGER
11-29-2005, 08:08 PM
I was able to push the XL memory hard by increasing the cpu voltage, this is not the same on the XT.

I need to connect the XL to some cold and go for a decent score but it is in my gamer connected to my new 32" HD display. unreal NFSMW gaming, wide screen owns for racing games.

eva2000
11-29-2005, 08:47 PM
Interesting with upped GPU on mine can get mem to 801 easier :)

32" HD display :slobber: :slobber:


3Dmark2003
with cpu stock

@621/747 = 16,368 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2225-7-14-2222_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/3dmark_X1800XT/OC_results/3dmark2003_621-747_16368_tn.jpg)
@708/801 = 17,698 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2225-7-14-2222_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/3dmark_X1800XT/OC_results/3dmark2003_708-801_17698_tn.jpg)

:D

ugp
11-29-2005, 09:13 PM
Well I have a Sony 42" HDTV I can hook mine to so :p

eva2000
11-29-2005, 09:38 PM
makes my 20.1" BenQ FP2091 look small LOL

ugp
11-29-2005, 09:44 PM
I can't get the Res to show up right on it though...I am using a DVI-to-HDMI Cable.

eva2000
11-29-2005, 11:10 PM
How sweet is this for 512MB HIS X1800XT on stock heatsink air :)

Opteron 146 CAB2E 0540FPMW @10x280HTT = 2800mhz at stock vcore
2x 512MB Gskill PC4400LE @280mhz 2.5-3-3-6 7-14-2222

3dmark05
@621/747 = 9,235 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/280-280-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.375-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_621-747_9235_tn.jpg)
@708/801 = 10,163 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/280-280-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.375-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_708-801_10163_tn.jpg)

3dmark2003
@621/747 = 17,707 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/280-280-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.375-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark2003_621-747_17707_tn.jpg)
@708/801 = 19,169 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/280-280-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.375-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark2003_708-801_19169_tn.jpg)

ugp
11-29-2005, 11:24 PM
Ok this is my results... Very strange to me..

CPU @ 250x11.0 Mem @ 250x5 @ 2.5-3-3-6-2T

Core voltage was set with ATITool @ v1.375

3DMark01SE Results:

@ 708/792: 32,964
@ 708/801: 32,831 <--Went Lower
@ 708/825: 33,143 <--Ok alittle higher
@ 708/846: 32,984 <--Back down again??
@ 708/846: 33,334 <--Went alittle back up *I had ran this one twice*

More than 708 on core at v1.375 it locks up during Nature Test.

mrlobber
11-29-2005, 11:26 PM
eva, have you changed voltages or that "stock heatsink air" essentially means "stock heatsink, stock vgpu & vmem air"?

And how's the overall feel of the card, compared to the 7800GTX 256Mb?

eva2000
11-29-2005, 11:30 PM
@ 708/792: 32,964
@ 708/801: 32,831 <--Went Lower
@ 708/825: 33,143 <--Ok alittle higher
@ 708/846: 32,984 <--Back down again??
@ 708/846: 33,334 <--Went alittle back up *I had ran this one twice*

More than 708 on core at v1.375 it locks up during Nature Test.
that is 3d2k1's low car bug it can vary from runs by upto 220pts so within normal range... probably more accurate to set 3d2k1 to loop each test 3 times to get to a final score averaging 3 runs :)

at 2800mhz at stock 621/747 i got 3d2k1 = 35,570 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/280-280-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.375-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark2001_621-747_35570_tn.jpg) :)

eva, have you changed voltages or that "stock heatsink air" essentially means "stock heatsink, stock vgpu & vmem air"?

And how's the overall feel of the card, compared to the 7800GTX 256Mb?

708mhz needs 1.375v

it is faster than my stock heatsink air 256MB BFG 7800GTX in benchies so far..

ugp
11-29-2005, 11:32 PM
Oh shush....you and your Opty! LoL

I am trying 715/855 again with v1.400 on the Vgpu

ugp
11-29-2005, 11:35 PM
Lock up again at 715/855 v1.400 on the core:(

No matter what I still score higher with ATI CCC at 690/800 than I do with clocks I set with OverClocker.

eva2000
11-29-2005, 11:46 PM
try dropping ram down to 802 and see what happens

ugp
11-29-2005, 11:50 PM
I have...still nothing..those RAM settings are fine because I have ran them with lower core clocks...and scores were still really low..

I don't understand this whole Overclocker..setting clocks...checking them in ATITool...stuff. I think I will wait for any really further overclocking until ATITool is completely fixed and ready to use. In the past it has always worked great for overclocking my older ATI Cards.

EDIT:

Have you ran AquaMark3 yet and see what you get in that?

Although AquaMark3 will not finish it keeps crashing on me...I do not know why...never had an issue with it before..

Also to add..

This is what I got in 3DMark03.

CPU @ 2.75

1800XT @ 690/800

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y190/ugp/Benchmarks/HIS%20x1800XT%20Overclocks/3DMark03-18162.jpg

eva2000
11-30-2005, 01:54 AM
see my first post again for 5 step run down of properly clocking with X1800XT it works :)

Opteron 146 CAB2E 0540FPMW @10x300HTT = 3000mhz at 1.408V
2x 512MB Gskill PC4400LE @272mhz 2.5-3-3-6 7-14-2222

3dmark05
@621/747 = 9,287 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/300-272-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.43-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_621-747_9287_tn.jpg)
@708/801 = 10,221 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/300-272-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.43-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_708-801_10221_tn.jpg)

3dmark2003
@621/747 = 17,945 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/300-272-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.43-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark2003_621-747_17945_tn.jpg)
@708/801 = 19,449 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/300-272-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.43-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark2003_708-801_19449_tn.jpg)

Aquamark3
@621/747 = 98,100 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/300-272-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.43-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/AM3_621-747_98100_tn.jpg)
@708/801 = 101,262 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/300-272-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.43-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/AM3_708-801_101262_tn.jpg)

igor0203
11-30-2005, 02:15 AM
nice result eva! when will you get some DI on card?

loc.o
11-30-2005, 04:17 AM
Nice result and great topic :toast: Good to have al the info in TS. Hope me X1800XT wil be here soon.

eva2000
11-30-2005, 04:25 AM
i've never touched DI..all my video cards have only ever been on air :)

lastest done is at 715/882

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Opteron 146 CAB2E 0540FPMW @10x300HTT = 3000mhz at 1.408V
2x 512MB Gskill PC4400LE @272mhz 2.5-3-3-6 7-14-2222

3dmark05
@621/747 = 9,287 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/300-272-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.43-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_621-747_9287_tn.jpg)
@708/801 = 10,221 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/300-272-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.43-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_708-801_10221_tn.jpg)
@715/882 = 10,601 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/300-272-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.43-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_715-882_10601_tn.jpg)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1501277
@750(749)/890(882) = 10,869 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/300-272-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.43-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_749-882_10869_tn.jpg)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1501440

:banana: :woot:

eva2000
11-30-2005, 04:57 AM
Well here's where i am now

setting 2D clock in X1800 Oc'ing tool higher in same windows session and got:

650mhz = 648mhz real GPU 3D clock
660mhz = 654mhz real GPU 3D clock
670mhz = 668mhz real GPU 3D clock
680mhz = 675mhz real GPU 3D clock
685mhz = 681mhz real GPU 3D clock
690mhz = 688mhz real GPU 3D clock <-- had to increase and fix fan speed from 31% to 100%
700mhz = 695mhz real GPU 3D clock (upped GPU volt from 1.275v stock to 1.325v in ATI Tool - shows at 1.35v in OC'ing tool)
702mhz = 702mhz real GPU 3D clock (1.35v ATI Tool)
703-708mhz = 702mhz real GPU 3D clock
710mhz = 708mhz real GPU 3D clock (1.375v ATI Tool)
711-715 = 708mhz real GPU 3D clock
716mhz = 715mhz real GPU 3D clock (1.4v ATI Tool)
717-723mhz = 715mhz real GPU 3D clock
724mhz = 722mhz real GPU 3D clock (1.425v ATI Tool)
730mhz = 729mhz real GPU 3D clock (1.425v ATI Tool)
740mhz = 735mhz real GPU 3D clock (1.425v ATI Tool)
745mhz = 742mhz real GPU 3D clock (1.425v ATI Tool)
750mhz = 749mhz real GPU 3D clock (1.425v ATI Tool)

same goes for mem clocks in X1800 Oc'ing tool

780mhz = 774mhz real mem 3D clock
800mhz = 792mhz real mem 3D clock
810mhz = 810mhz real mem 3D clock
820mhz = 819mhz real mem 3D clock
830mhz = 828mhz real mem 3D clock

840mhz = 837mhz real mem 3D clock - (artifacts when GPU voltage is stock but at 1.375v GPU volts no artifacts even though mem volts are still untouched at stock! )

850mhz = 846mhz real mem 3D clock (1.375v GPU ATI Tool)
860mhz = 855mhz real mem 3D clock (1.375v GPU ATI Tool)
870mhz = 864mhz real mem 3D clock (1.375v GPU ATI Tool)
880mhz = 873mhz real mem 3D clock (1.375v GPU ATI Tool)
890mhz = 882mhz real mem 3D clock (1.375v GPU ATI Tool)
900mhz = 900mhz real mem 3D clock (1.375v GPU ATI Tool) - artifacts


Question is GPU voltage of 1.425v in ATI Tool too much for stock X1800XT heatsink with fan speed set on 100% ? It idles at 47-51C @749/882 :)





Dam local thunderstorms in the area so shutting down unecessary pc activity so this is where I am for tonight

Opteron 146 CAB2E 0540FPMW @10x310HTT = 3100mhz at 1.536v
2x 512MB Gskill PC4400LE @282mhz 2.5-3-3-6 7-14-2222

3Dmark05
@621/747 = 9,321 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/310-282-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.56-1.4-1.6-2.9_3684_dsW4dds1_9N65_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_621-747_9321_tn.jpg)
@750(749)/890(882) = 10,915 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/310-282-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.56-1.4-1.6-2.9_3684_dsW4dds1_9N65_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_749-882_10915_tn.jpg)

and pulled of 3Dmark2003 @3000mhz
@735/882 = 20,328 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/300-272-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.43-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark2003_735-882_20328_tn.jpg)

ugp
11-30-2005, 07:47 AM
Very nice man. Keep going. I will continue my testing as well.

Hicks
11-30-2005, 07:51 AM
Jesus EVA, how are you clocking so dam high on stock? Guess ill up the fan speed, and up the volts then.

eva2000
11-30-2005, 08:10 AM
thanks yeah it's a nice clocker but the question remains, is GPU voltage of 1.425v in ATI Tool too much for stock X1800XT heatsink with fan speed set on 100% ? It idles at 47-51C @749/882

seems 1.425v GPU volts is where things just started flying oc'ing wise :)

ugp
11-30-2005, 08:15 AM
I am going to have to try that as well. Let me disable services and I will start giving it hell! LoL

Will too high on Mem give you a hard lock as well?

eva2000
11-30-2005, 08:17 AM
haven't experienced any hard locks yet... 890mhz (882mhz real) mem is max stable

895(891) and 900(900) mem clocks give me artifacts

ugp
11-30-2005, 08:21 AM
Ok then when I get a hard lock it is my core. Thanks.

Yeah I had tried 900 on the Mem once and got Artifacts LoL really bad and had to reboot.

ugp
11-30-2005, 08:30 AM
Ok tested some more I got hard lock at 749 @ v1.425. So it seems you may have a better clocker than I do here. I was able to do 730 @ v1.425 though.

Edit: Trying 750 @ v1.450....

Only clocked CPU @ 200x11..0 at the moment though so score seems alittle low...

I got this at 742/846 in 3DMark01 (755 was a no go on v1.450)

29,213 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8809228)

I am going to test all my GPU overclocks first at Stock CPU speeds for now on and then switch it over to 2.75 for high scores.

Has anyone else had an issue with clicking on the restore default clocks with OverClock that you lose video feed?

SIOUX
11-30-2005, 08:49 AM
Yeah opterons are :cool:

question for SIOUX and others

- interesting ATI Tool reports default GPU volt = 1.275v
- but ATI CCC according to folks measuring via DMM GPU volt default to 1.33-1.35v ????

which is the default GPU voltage for X1800XT ?


@702(702)/800(792)

3dmark05 = 9,060

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/200-200-2225-7-14-2222_1.4-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_ds7dds1_7N5_16clk_16x7x/3dmark_X1800XT/OC_results/3dmark05_702-792_9060_tn.jpg


The defult volt is 1.275 on my card. but sometimes when i play games the voltage jumps up to 1.375 automatic...very strange.

ugp
11-30-2005, 08:51 AM
So what exactly is the exact default voltage on the card? And is ATITool reading the proper voltage for the memory as well on the card? Is it possible that there is a 2D voltage and a 3D voltage?

This is my 05 score with stock CPU speeds. Card was at 690/800

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y190/ugp/Benchmarks/HIS%20x1800XT%20Overclocks/3DMark05-9265.jpg

Shadowmage
11-30-2005, 09:11 AM
Nice job with the clocks!

Now lets see you switch the stock cooler and break 20k 3dmark03 :D

loc.o
11-30-2005, 09:16 AM
Me local pc-store wil get 1 X1800XT tomorrow and guess who bought it :D Will be a nice weekend!

Hicks
11-30-2005, 09:22 AM
Me local pc-store wil get 1 X1800XT tomorrow and guess who bought it :D Will be a nice weekend!

heheheh, congrats man, GL with the new card!, were all loving our's! :D

Well things ae looking a bit better for me. After reading a fair lot of posts here on XS, ive pretty much got it nailed now.

using the Tool to oc and set the fan speed, and checking clocks with ATI-tool and changing volts.

Just did an 05 run ar 708/819 actual clocks, i upped the fan speed to 4000RPM, and upped the Vcore to 1.3, got 9881, which iam pretty pleased with, goal is 10k. http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1502128

So what is stock volts on these cards then for sure?

ugp
11-30-2005, 09:46 AM
I am not sure if anyone knows the actual stock voltage or is 100% sure on what it is. I guess only ATI really knows :p

Hicks
11-30-2005, 09:57 AM
9972 at 715/828 1.3 Volts. Id did 728 core and it crashed, so seems this is the limit on the core, with these volts, load temps are about 60 odd Cat 75% fan speed, bit scared of using more volts, lol.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1502264

ugp
11-30-2005, 10:00 AM
Nah I used v1.450 and it was fine...just watch your temps is all. Use ATITool and have it save temps to a log so you can go back and see what your high was.

Also what 3rd Party Coolers will work on this card and which would be best for cooling. I want to stay with Air-Cooling. But I would like a better cooler. I know the stock is good but there is always room for improvement.

*If it ain't broke make it even better!* LoL

eva2000
11-30-2005, 10:07 AM
Nice job with the clocks!

Now lets see you switch the stock cooler and break 20k 3dmark03 :D
breaking 20k is pretty easy

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/300-272-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.43-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark2003_735-882_20328_tn.jpg

:D

So what exactly is the exact default voltage on the card? And is ATITool reading the proper voltage for the memory as well on the card? Is it possible that there is a 2D voltage and a 3D voltage?

This is my 05 score with stock CPU speeds. Card was at 690/800

what CAT drivers you using ugp ?

I haven't touched the mem voltages as bit confused what is for what ? there' s 2 mem voltages

1. MVDDC = core voltage of mem chips
2. MVDDQ = voltage of memory output buffers

when should either or both be increased ?

Hicks
11-30-2005, 10:16 AM
I just ran through 05 twice at 715/846 and it gave me lower scores than the post above, that had lower memory clocks.

No memory artifacts at 846. :)

EDIT: Even with 722/846 i cannot reach the score i got at 715/828???

ugp
11-30-2005, 12:58 PM
I am using v5.11s

I saw someone using some other drivers and I cannot find where to download them at.

I will continue searching for higher clocks when I get home.

Hicks
11-30-2005, 01:05 PM
Cracked 10k.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1503596

I think it was done at 730/860. :) 1.365Vcore, 90% fan speed.

flopper
11-30-2005, 01:25 PM
Cracked 10k.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1503596

I think it was done at 730/860. :) 1.365Vcore, 90% fan speed.

Yay :toast:

perkam
11-30-2005, 01:50 PM
How in the world are ppl getting so close to 900 on the mem on air ???!!! :eek: :confused:

Perkam

ugp
11-30-2005, 02:44 PM
I was hitting 880 with stock voltage...didn't pursue that any further

900 gave me artifacts but eva2000 said he applied more Core voltage and got artifact free on a clock.

I want to max out my core first.

CrashOv3r1De
11-30-2005, 04:41 PM
The BFG 512s were in stock for a few hours Yesterday ;)

Thanks for the tip off. Just bought an evga with overnight shipping. MAN I GOT LUCKY. Not saying where i got it i need some time to think if i want to buy one more. MAN IM LUCKY. :banana: :banana:

Called ZFF to cancel my X1800xt + rdx200 order

eva2000
11-30-2005, 04:42 PM
Cracked 10k.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1503596

I think it was done at 730/860. :) 1.365Vcore, 90% fan speed.
Congrats there mate :D

retesting at 2800mhz but higher clocks 742/891

Opteron 146 CAB2E 0540FPMW @10x280HTT = 2800mhz at stock vcore
2x 512MB Gskill PC4400LE @280mhz 2.5-3-3-6 7-14-2222

3dmark05
@621/747 = 9,235 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/280-280-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.375-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_621-747_9235_tn.jpg)
@708/801 = 10,163 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/280-280-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.375-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_708-801_10163_tn.jpg)
@742/891 = 10,795 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/280-280-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.375-1.3-1.6-2.87_3684_dsW4dds1_8N5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_742-891_10795_1425_2127_tn.jpg)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1504826

eva2000
11-30-2005, 08:41 PM
Well 23pts to go :D

And for a treat an original non-resized screenie :)

Opteron 146 @3120mhz
HIS X1800XT @749/891
3Dmark05 = 10,977 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1504916)

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/312-283-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.59-1.4-1.6-2.9_3684_dsW4dds1_9N65_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_749-891_10977_145_2140_2127.jpg

question for stock heatsink are those voltage increases too high or within normal range ?

GPU: 1.45v
VDD: 2.140v
VDDQ: 2.127v

Stuperman
11-30-2005, 08:51 PM
11K in 05 with water!?!?! that's crazy! and based on your Question air on the GPU!

congrats, that's awesome.

eva2000
11-30-2005, 08:55 PM
i'm on stock heatsink air for X1800XT that's why i ask if volts on card are too high :)

Dynasty
11-30-2005, 10:38 PM
11K nicely done eva. :)

mrlobber
11-30-2005, 10:55 PM
So what's the deal with subzero on the latest retail X1800XT's, are they friendly with it or no, anyone knows?

Ok, never mind, found this: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=81738, obviously, a more proper place for the discussion ;)

eva2000
12-01-2005, 12:37 AM
not yet there Dynasty but i will get there just trying some different ram now :)

interesting search on the ORB for X1800 series and 10,977 places me in #5 position :)

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/312-283-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.59-1.4-1.6-2.9_3684_dsW4dds1_9N65_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/x1800xt_orb_011205_ranks_top6_tn.jpg

deathman20
12-01-2005, 05:31 AM
i'm on stock heatsink air for X1800XT that's why i ask if volts on card are too high :)

Well the question is, what are the temps underload? If its pretty cool I'd say the voltage is good. Whats the amps it uses under that load under ATITool?

eva2000
12-01-2005, 05:40 AM
@749/891
GPU idle = 46-47C
GPU load = 58-60C

didn't check the amps have to do that heh

Also, question with X1800XT i tried disabling CCC via service manager and benched 3dmark05 and keep getting 50-90pts lower.. was wondering if CCC's features such as DXT are disabled if CCC is disabled causing lower performance ?

deathman20
12-01-2005, 05:42 AM
@749/891
GPU idle = 46-47C
GPU load = 58-60C

didn't check the amps have to do that heh

Also, question with X1800XT i tried disabling CCC via service manager and benched 3dmark05 and keep getting 50-90pts lower.. was wondering if CCC's features such as DXT are disabled if CCC is disabled causing lower performance ?

Nice temps, I get slightly lower idle temps but same load temps with my cooler, using less voltage on the core, and definatly less speed hehe.

eva2000
12-01-2005, 07:01 AM
Yeah fan on 100% speed keeps GPU pretty cool i'd say :)

I have my 11k #4 rank on ORB now :)

3Dmark05
@749/900 = 11,007 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1506265)

GPU: 1.45v
VDD: 2.171v
VDDQ: 2.165v
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/313-283-2.5335-7-14-2212_1.59-1.4-1.6-2.9_3684_dsW4dds1_9N65_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_749-900_11007_145_2171_2165.jpg

:woot:



Had to squeeze out 900mhz on mem for that bit extra, plus tightened mem timings a tad :D

Hicks
12-01-2005, 07:30 AM
Very nice EVA. I might put some more volts in it, temps are 65C max, really 2600mhz is limiting me, and my memory.

Grave
12-01-2005, 07:37 AM
Nice scores :toast:

eva2000
12-01-2005, 08:41 AM
thanks this card is very nice 68-69C load so far with fan on 100% speed (although whiny loud heh )

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Traditional video encoding tools rely solely on the PC’s main processor for the extensive calculations necessary when en- and decoding video sequences. The secret ATI Avivo XCode tool, however, additionally employs the power of ATI’s X1000 series’ architecture. We assume that the XCode tool mainly utilizes the programmable pixel shader units for it’s number-crunching.

Only new ATI graphics cards need apply

There’s a hook however: Avivo XCode only runs on PCs with ATIs Radeon X1000 series VGA cards; i.e. X1300, X1600, X1800 in their respective Pro or XT versions, as well as their All-in-Wonder version.
Our tests indicate that even the cheapest model, a Radeon X1300 available for around 90 Euros in Europe, can achieve dramatic speed increases at crunching down videos.

:woot:

Hicks
12-01-2005, 09:28 AM
Managed 01/03 and 05 runs at 729/865, with 100% fan speed, 65C max temps, with 1.365Vcore and upped memory a tiny tiny bit. Dunno what the max will be, can't really be arsed to bench more, hehe, fan is to loud, wanna find me max gaming clocks at around 35% fan speed.

cantankerous
12-01-2005, 01:02 PM
yea the fan is mega loud, my gosh. With fan at only 35% which isn't too loud I hit like 80c steady while playing fear, that is quite high no? I looped 3dmark01 for 45 mins and the core got into the 90's! Do you think I damaged my card running it that hot for that period of time or what is max? Fan at 100% is not an option it whines way too much.

CrashOv3r1De
12-01-2005, 01:05 PM
Nice scores eva I like the way your oc is progressing :) Wish I still had this card to give you some competition on air :P

ugp
12-01-2005, 10:29 PM
Man I got a lot of catching up to do here!

eva2000
12-01-2005, 10:56 PM
yeah you do ugp :)

Nice scores eva I like the way your oc is progressing :) Wish I still had this card to give you some competition on air :P
thanks :)

pretty nice for single card but definitely lower than what 512MB 7800GTX can do for 3d2k3 especially with dual core cpus and dual core optimised drivers. Although WarCat 5.11b drivers seem to give 1,000+ pts more than Cat 5.11

3Dmark2003 = 20,784 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4442872)

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/313-283-2.5335-7-14-2212_1.59-1.4-1.6-2.9_3684_dsW4dds1_9N65_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark2003_749-900_20784_tn.jpg

mrlobber
12-01-2005, 11:06 PM
Now 7800GTX 512Mb is in its own league, we all knew that (in both performance as well as price) :D Especially now that X1800XT's can be found for around $550 and lower while the 7800GTX 512 cruise at those unbelievable $700+ heights :eek:

Nice scores eva. Btw, what is your ambient for the X1800XT air benching there? Lower or higher than 30C? ;)

ugp
12-01-2005, 11:10 PM
Yeah why in the hell are the new 7800GTXs so damn exspensive?

ugp
12-01-2005, 11:12 PM
Ok I ran 3DMark05 with the core at 750 just fine no problems.

Ok now I know atleast the core can do it...not to start appling some Mem Clocks as well.

Dynasty
12-01-2005, 11:16 PM
Yeah why in the hell are the new 7800GTXs so damn exspensive?

Limited supply and high demand. :cool:

ugp
12-01-2005, 11:19 PM
Ok I am up to 750/850 now.

At Stock CPU Speeds I scored 9,224 in 3DMark05.

ugp
12-01-2005, 11:29 PM
FINALLY DID IT!!!!!!

CPU @ 250x11.0

GPU @ 750 @ v1.450 MEM @ 850 @ Stock Voltage

3DMark05: 10,389!!!

eva2000
12-01-2005, 11:30 PM
ugp getting there :)


Nice scores eva. Btw, what is your ambient for the X1800XT air benching there? Lower or higher than 30C? ;)
for that 3d2k3 run and below 3d2k1 ambient 26C, other benchmarks were 30-32C

3Dmark2001 has always loved ATI cards

3Dmark2001 = 40,094 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8811044)

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/313-283-2.5335-7-14-2212_1.59-1.4-1.6-2.9_3684_dsW4dds1_9N65_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark2001_749-891_40094_tn.jpg

ugp
12-01-2005, 11:31 PM
To add a screen for proof!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y190/ugp/Benchmarks/HIS%20x1800XT%20Overclocks/3DMark05-10389.jpg

ugp
12-01-2005, 11:34 PM
Weird 3DMark05 is stable but 3DMark01 isn't...I figured this would be the other way around...

eva2000 I am going to take your score out man! At only 2.75GHz too! You watch me! LoL I have finally got this card cranking!

Upping it to 750/900 gave me 10,585 in 3DMark05.

During all of it my GPU only hit 60.9C on full load temp at 750. I am starting to get Artifacts on the core clocks now. I am going to call it a night. Later guys.

eva2000
12-01-2005, 11:54 PM
Ah some friendly competition :D

loc.o
12-02-2005, 02:27 AM
Got me X1800XT up and running but scores seem a bit of....

Opteron @ 3500 + 750/900 = 11.081 3D05

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/loc_oc/11081small.jpg

Opteron @ 3500 + 750/900 = 114.952 Aqua03

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/loc_oc/114952small.jpg

3D05 already is a bit low for the clocks i think but the real problem is Nature:

Operon @ 3500 + 750/900 gives me this (used Eva's 40k run as compare link, same clocks on gpu)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/loc_oc/750-900nature3500.jpg

Reformatted, reinstalled drivers etc etc. Although i didnt have any artifacts first thing tonight will be cutting back on mem a little, see if 850 makes a difference. Any other thoughts?

funkflix
12-02-2005, 02:35 AM
Weird 3DMark05 is stable but 3DMark01 isn't...I figured this would be the other way around...


'01 get more Load trough ur card then '05, don't ask my why, but it is a fact. :)

Messured with amps clamp on my 850XT, i think it is the same with the 1800xx cards.

G H Z
12-02-2005, 03:08 AM
Got me X1800XT up and running but scores seem a bit of....

No matter what i try nature stays too low imo. Although i didnt have any artifacts first thing tonight will be cutting back on mem a little, see if 850 makes a difference. Any other thoughts?

Nice 146 loco :cool:

Hey try this, install CCC :rolleyes: and make sure you disable in options the tray BS. Then check your AI setting and put it to Advanced, make sure everything else is disabled, including Mipmap. Stock XT should be good for around 380+ Fps in Nature.

Nice card Eva, crazy voltages your pushing there ;) Btw do you really have to publish every score you have :confused:

eva2000
12-02-2005, 03:28 AM
only publish them so can folks can compare with my previous results posted in first post at different cpu and card speeds

as to voltages - no one has said what's safe for X1800XT throughout this thread only go by temps heh so is that too high for voltages ??? load temp at 749/900 is 68C

Hicks
12-02-2005, 05:27 AM
Not bad UGP, got a feeling thats pretty much gonna be your max, and with 400mhz less CPU, you got no chance with EVA :cool:

deathman20
12-02-2005, 05:38 AM
Very nice scores guys. I hope they fix ATITool for you guys though, im curious if it really helps you on the memory if OC is loosening something on the ram to get higher clocks or not.

EVA: Said this in another post, my guess is mid 70's are pretty safe. Ran an X800Pro with those temps for about a year and its still working today even after a pipemod. Hope to see some faster scores there :)

cantankerous
12-02-2005, 06:05 AM
thanks deathman20 yet again for yoru help and responses. I suppose 1 day of it running into the 80-90's isn't going to kill or weaken the card (will it?!?!). From now on I am going to ramp the speed of the fan up to a sweet spot to keep the card in the mid 70's. I searched high low for an answer to this question and must have missed the post from EVA about this answer so I apologize. If anyone has any other ideas on this matter to add please do share such as what your idle and load temps are and what you feel is safe and danger zone.

I am glad your x800pro is still running after a year at those temps, that is good to know. I bought a BBATI because of their local warranty. I only live about 20 mins from their HQ making a drop off real easy however I had to pay a premium for this card over a cheaper one made by another manufacturer. ATI used to have 3 year warranty however I just recently found out it is only 1 year now which really blows.

ugp
12-02-2005, 07:48 AM
Well tonight once it gets cold out I am going to draw all that air in here and start overclocking my CPU to 3GHz and doa run at 750/900. Also I am going to push the voltage alittle more on it as well. My Load temps are pretty cool once I have a lot of cold air in my room. So I don't think I have anything to worry about then.

eva2000
12-02-2005, 08:58 AM
All the best ugp :)

Anyone try undervolting their GPU volts ? i'm find at 621/747 with GPU volt dropped from 1.275v to 1.2v in ATI Tool heh

deathman20
12-02-2005, 09:02 AM
Nice.. What are the temps with your voltage dropped like that?

eva2000
12-02-2005, 09:06 AM
Undervolt X1800XT GPU from 1.275v to 1.2v

Idle:

ATI Tool send GPU and GPU Env to sensor 5 and 6 respectively to get MBM5 to record temps. If you run ATI tool with MBM5, the average GPU, GPU Env get messed up heh

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Corsair/XMS3500C2/2_1/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/166/310-258-2225-7-14-2222_1.56-1.4-1.6-3.44_3120_dsW2dds1_8F5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/MBM5_GPU_12_idle_tn.jpg

Load levels off at 55C so far

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Corsair/XMS3500C2/2_1/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/166/310-258-2225-7-14-2222_1.56-1.4-1.6-3.44_3120_dsW2dds1_8F5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/MBM5_GPU_12_load_tn.jpg

OPPAINTER
12-02-2005, 09:18 AM
Eva,

That was a great read my friend, tons of useful info, good stuff. :toast:

OPP

Dynasty
12-02-2005, 09:21 AM
Eva,

That was great read my friend, tons of useful info, good stuff. :toast:

OPP

Too bad the retail X1800XT cards are suffering the infamous cold bug. :(

eva2000
12-02-2005, 09:24 AM
Thanks OPP ... lots of fun at my end too :D

Hopefully, I can get my hands on a phase change unit before Xmas and give my cpus a booster injection :banana:

deathman20
12-02-2005, 09:25 AM
I do have to say though yours uses less amps according to ATITool then my X1800XL does for similar volts, and well as best of clocks I can get (tops out around 30-35.5A).

Guess I'll post that question over on the other board.

eva2000
12-02-2005, 09:29 AM
Well trying ATI Tool show 3D windows which seems to draw more load and 3C more load temps ... will let it run a bit and post screenie :)

Dynasty
12-02-2005, 09:31 AM
Thanks OPP ... lots of fun at my end too :D

Hopefully, I can get my hands on a phase change unit before Xmas and give my cpus a booster injection :banana:

lol, don't you have an FX 57 0516 WPMW, if so you really should freeze it. ;)

eva2000
12-02-2005, 09:32 AM
yeah have FX-57 0516WPMW as well as a few Opterons hehe.. no phase change unit though waiting on one hehe.. maybe before Xmas or after heh

once i go phase, then watch out guys :slapass: :D

OPPAINTER
12-02-2005, 09:32 AM
You need to stick that bugger on water.

OPP

Dynasty
12-02-2005, 09:36 AM
Right now I am running my X1800XT on Swiftech MCW 55
idle temps below 27 C's and load temps around 38 C's.
Is it me or do these R520 cores run alot hotter then R480's.
Same watercooling I can run my X850's(1.62vgpu) in CF mode with
two cards looped with 14-16 C's on idle.

eva2000
12-02-2005, 09:37 AM
Dynasty what's your room ambients ? My room temps are always between 30-32C day and 26-28C night here heh.

I've never water cooled a video card before only cpu... tempted to seeing as SIOUX's responded nicely to water :)

ATI Tool 3d window under load with GPU undervolted

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Corsair/XMS3500C2/2_1/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/166/310-258-2225-7-14-2222_1.56-1.4-1.6-3.44_3120_dsW2dds1_8F5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/MBM5_GPU_12_load_3dwindows_tn.jpg

Dynasty
12-02-2005, 09:57 AM
Dynasty what's your room ambients ?


lol, my pc room in this fridgit climate is always in
winter around 15-18C's. :p:

eva2000
12-02-2005, 10:05 AM
So about right X1800XT under load is about 20-24C above ambients it seems for water cooled or 36-40C above ambients under load for air heh

SIOUX
12-02-2005, 10:10 AM
Right now I am running my X1800XT on Swiftech MCW 55
idle temps below 27 C's and load temps around 38 C's.
Is it me or do these R520 cores run alot hotter then R480's.
Same watercooling I can run my X850's(1.62vgpu) in CF mode with
two cards looped with 14-16 C's on idle.


yes...they do run hotter than the older series of cards:)

Dynasty
12-02-2005, 10:19 AM
What load temps do you get on your waterchiller SIOUX . :)

OPPAINTER
12-02-2005, 10:22 AM
Right now I'm running 2 X850s in crossfire on my 24/7 rig.

The mastercard is on water, the regular 850 is on air.
The temperature difference is a lot, especially under load.

In my book, water cooling is a must have when it comes to running graphic cards, extends the life of the card for one thing.


OPP

Idle

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=40631&stc=1



Load

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=40632&stc=1

mikeguava
12-02-2005, 10:34 AM
OT: Oppainter - Have you tried to push the X850CF yet? Just preparing for a run myself in the next couple of days...

SIOUX
12-02-2005, 10:37 AM
What load temps do you get on your waterchiller SIOUX . :)


When the chiller is 0 degrees watertemp, my max load temp with 1.6v is 28 degrees:)

OPPAINTER
12-02-2005, 10:37 AM
OT: Oppainter - Have you tried to push the X850CF yet? Just preparing for a run myself in the next couple of days...
No I haven’t.
I did do a little testing, no V-mods, and the X850CF memory was pretty good but until I put it on water I couldn't even overclock the core at all.


OPP

mikeguava
12-02-2005, 10:41 AM
No I haven’t.
I did a little testing, no V-mods, and the X850CF memory was pretty good but until I put it on water I couldn't even overclock the core at all.


OPP

Same here - memory is great but the core / memory controler is holding it back - even with vmods - I went form 650 stock to 655 vmodded on the memory ..lol. Heat seems to be the culprit - with Pelted Core the memory went up to 680mhz ( tight) and core came alive going form vmodded 650 air to 760

Dynasty
12-02-2005, 10:43 AM
On my X850 CF card, I am using 1.62 Vgpu for 650 clks on core.
Mem does 600-620 with default VDD.
On stock cooling/no vmods the X850 CF I have does 599.

Water cooled/Vmodded

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4851/x850cfcard1qd.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Water cooled/no mods

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1500/x850cfnomods6ua.gif (http://imageshack.us)

loc.o
12-02-2005, 02:19 PM
Hey try this, install CCC :rolleyes: and make sure you disable in options the tray BS. Then check your AI setting and put it to Advanced, make sure everything else is disabled, including Mipmap. Stock XT should be good for around 380+ Fps in Nature.

Thank you very much :toast: This certainly looks more like it. Stock air.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/loc_oc/43905X1800XT750-875.jpg

cantankerous
12-02-2005, 02:27 PM
Thank you very much :toast: This certainly looks more like it. Stock air.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/loc_oc/43905X1800XT750-875.jpg

damn what a sweet 01 score. I just beat 31k with my x1800xt and I was happy but not anymore!

G H Z
12-02-2005, 04:02 PM
This certainly looks more like it. Stock air.

Nice :D

Whats cooling your Opty?

loc.o
12-02-2005, 04:21 PM
Stock Mach II with ricky tweak, about -5 @ load in mbm5

G H Z
12-02-2005, 04:32 PM
Stock Mach II with ricky tweak, about -5 @ load in mbm5

You ran ATI Tool for voltage and Overclocker for card clocks(2D or 3D)? I can't get my XT anywhere near the clocks in '01 that it can do in '05.

loc.o
12-02-2005, 04:59 PM
Yes, ATItool for volts and OC tool 2D for clocks. Win 2000 dx8.1.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/loc_oc/44.jpg

SIOUX
12-02-2005, 05:03 PM
Yes, ATItool for volts and OC tool 2D for clocks. Win 2000 dx8.1.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/loc_oc/44.jpg


nice score:toast: can you post the details of the run? :)

loc.o
12-02-2005, 05:07 PM
ty, here you go.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8811962

Hicks
12-02-2005, 05:27 PM
In my book, water cooling is a must have when it comes to running graphic cards, extends the life of the card for one thing.






oh come on, i dunno about that. Air is perfectly fine, especially at stock speeds, i wouldn't say water extends the life of a card, modern video cards are designed to run hot, if the stock heatsinks were not adequate, they wouldn't use them.

ugp
12-02-2005, 07:54 PM
I am going to have to remove two of my 4 sticks of ram on a cold night and hit 3GHz on my Sandy and see what I can do then. I have a baby going to be here tomorrow...they are inducing labor in the morning at 8am so I will have to put everything on hold until then. I have a lot of cold nights left to beat eva2000s score in 3DMark05 though.

Take care everyone and happy overclocking

cantankerous
12-02-2005, 08:08 PM
oh come on, i dunno about that. Air is perfectly fine, especially at stock speeds, i wouldn't say water extends the life of a card, modern video cards are designed to run hot, if the stock heatsinks were not adequate, they wouldn't use them.

Designed to run hot is an understatement lol! Just curious what is the rated max for the X1800 core?

cantankerous
12-02-2005, 08:12 PM
You ran ATI Tool for voltage and Overclocker for card clocks(2D or 3D)? I can't get my XT anywhere near the clocks in '01 that it can do in '05.

I have noticed this with both my XL and XT x1800 card. 01 for whatever reason is much harder on the card than any of the other 2 3dmarks, aquamark or even games for that matter. I can play games for hours, loop 3dmark03 and 05 for hours without issue however 01 will crash to desktop before too long if I really start to push it. I found on my XL if I just gave an ever so slight bump in volts 01 too would loop for hours on end without issue. Heat is a big issue for me on my XT card which it hitting into the 80's c without much work so raising volts is not an option. I was raising clocks through the overdrive tab in CCC and set them to 690/800 (max) and that would run through any 3dmarks, aquamark and games np but 01 would crash to desktop. The only way to get 01 to loop for hours on end was to lower the core down to about 680 (675 actual). I did this today and was finally able to loop 01 over and over with no title screens between tests for a good 4+ hours. I wish the card didn't get so hot as I would really like to start pushing it more. 675/800(792) is not bad though and nets me nearly 9.6k in 05. I finally beat FEAR on this card today and the ending never played so smooth.

ugp
12-02-2005, 08:26 PM
I am using v5.11s

I tried getting my Sandy to do 3GHz and it was a no go...temps are fine but I don't think it has what it takes to do it with only 1.65 Volts to it...and I don't want to push it any further than that.

I am going to give reflashing my BIOS on motherboard a try and see if I can get some stable 24/7 clocks. I am very CPU limited here.

Unless someone has a nice Opty they would like to give me:p:

eva2000
12-02-2005, 10:16 PM
You ran ATI Tool for voltage and Overclocker for card clocks(2D or 3D)? I can't get my XT anywhere near the clocks in '01 that it can do in '05.
you might need more GPU and mem voltage for 3d2k1

eva2000
12-02-2005, 10:19 PM
I have noticed this with both my XL and XT x1800 card. 01 for whatever reason is much harder on the card than any of the other 2 3dmarks, aquamark or even games for that matter. I can play games for hours, loop 3dmark03 and 05 for hours without issue however 01 will crash to desktop before too long if I really start to push it. I found on my XL if I just gave an ever so slight bump in volts 01 too would loop for hours on end without issue. Heat is a big issue for me on my XT card which it hitting into the 80's c without much work so raising volts is not an option. I was raising clocks through the overdrive tab in CCC and set them to 690/800 (max) and that would run through any 3dmarks, aquamark and games np but 01 would crash to desktop. The only way to get 01 to loop for hours on end was to lower the core down to about 680 (675 actual). I did this today and was finally able to loop 01 over and over with no title screens between tests for a good 4+ hours. I wish the card didn't get so hot as I would really like to start pushing it more. 675/800(792) is not bad though and nets me nearly 9.6k in 05. I finally beat FEAR on this card today and the ending never played so smooth.

try this... run ATI Tool and show 3D window and let it run for say 15-30mins with your overclock GPU/mem settings and see if ATI Tool 3d window's behaviour is closer to 3d2k1 or 3d2k05

Lightman
12-03-2005, 01:47 AM
I have noticed this with both my XL and XT x1800 card. 01 for whatever reason is much harder on the card than any of the other 2 3dmarks, aquamark or even games for that matter. I can play games for hours, loop 3dmark03 and 05 for hours without issue however 01 will crash to desktop before too long if I really start to push it. I found on my XL if I just gave an ever so slight bump in volts 01 too would loop for hours on end without issue. Heat is a big issue for me on my XT card which it hitting into the 80's c without much work so raising volts is not an option. I was raising clocks through the overdrive tab in CCC and set them to 690/800 (max) and that would run through any 3dmarks, aquamark and games np but 01 would crash to desktop. The only way to get 01 to loop for hours on end was to lower the core down to about 680 (675 actual). I did this today and was finally able to loop 01 over and over with no title screens between tests for a good 4+ hours. I wish the card didn't get so hot as I would really like to start pushing it more. 675/800(792) is not bad though and nets me nearly 9.6k in 05. I finally beat FEAR on this card today and the ending never played so smooth.



this is standard behavior of all new cores from ati!!

I have same problem with x1300, 3dmark05 and 03 are less demanding that 3dmark01!!:slapass:
PS. nice clocks :) I will have to push my card to 3GHz to catch you preformance:D

cantankerous
12-03-2005, 05:53 AM
Thanks Lightman. I am running a very poohy cpu right now too. Still running my Winchester that can only 2.48ghz max and with only 225mhz on the FSB before the memory controller craps out. If you guys think you are cpu limited check me out! I really need a new cpu and quick. At least 2.6ghz with a 1M cache.

Eva, I am going to try the show 3D view in ATI Tool now to see what happens after 30 minutes. If it is still runnign strong that is a good sign, it will also show me temps as I know this gets the card quite hot. Upon running it I immediately get a yellow border of blocks surrounding the 3D image that never gets any better or worse. I hope this is a bug in the program as I had the same thing on my weak XL. I would like to think of my XT as working strong and as should. Anyone else getting yellow boxed border around the the 3D image when running it?

eva2000
12-03-2005, 05:57 AM
for show 3d for X1800XT

- use ATI Tool beta 10
- set to use old artifacting test method in settings panel

cantankerous
12-03-2005, 06:43 AM
yea I found out about the old testing method from my XL which got rid of those yellow boxes. I thought beta 10 had fixed that but I guess not. I take it this is a known problem and without checking off old testing method you too get those yellow boxes?

The weird thing is this. I can run scan for artifacts WITHOUT checking off old compatibility method however show 3D view shows those boxes.

Just to let you know as well I ran show 3D view for about 45 mins and it was still running before I stopped it. I take it all is gravy?

ugp
12-03-2005, 07:14 AM
Well with a CPU at 2.75 and ATI @ 750/900 I scored 10,500 in 3DMark05 so I am very CPU limited here. That is the max I think I will hit. I think that is the max I can get on the core and even at that I get artifacts. I shall wait for ATITool to be fixed and then I shall find my stable 24/7 clock.

What do you guys think of the Zalman cooler for these cards? Or would the ATI Silencer be the way to go...? ATI Silencers are the way I always went in the past anyway.

cantankerous
12-03-2005, 07:42 AM
I am unsure if the ATI Silencer will be able to beat the stock ATI cooler as it is already quite beefy and under a similar design. IF so that would be great as I always went the ATI Silencer route in the past as well and loved the cooler temps and MUCH quieter noise.

The Zalman is great on the XL but I don't think it will fare to well on the XT, it just can't handle the load the XT pushes with the much higher clocks and much lower volts. It dropped temps a good 10c on my XL though.

flisko
12-03-2005, 08:08 AM
Culd someone tel me this picture, http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=852&pageID=1853 why have x1800xt 1 milion transitor more off xl :woot:

Hicks
12-03-2005, 08:46 AM
Well with a CPU at 2.75 and ATI @ 750/900 I scored 10,500 in 3DMark05 so I am very CPU limited here. That is the max I think I will hit. I think that is the max I can get on the core and even at that I get artifacts. I shall wait for ATITool to be fixed and then I shall find my stable 24/7 clock.

What do you guys think of the Zalman cooler for these cards? Or would the ATI Silencer be the way to go...? ATI Silencers are the way I always went in the past anyway.

pretty dam good that UGP!!

I get 10,100 at 729/865 at 2608mhz on my 4400+, so seems about right.

eva2000
12-03-2005, 12:18 PM
pretty dam good that UGP!!

I get 10,100 at 729/865 at 2608mhz on my 4400+, so seems about right.
so i see 5.11 drivers are pretty optimised for dual core cpus too ? :)

Here's my first run using Farcry v1.33 with HardwareOC's Farycry Benchmark v1.4.2 http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=1870

System
Opteron 146 CAB2E 0540FPMW @3000mhz
DFI NF4 Ultra-D 704-2BTA
2x512MB XMS3500C2v1.1 BH-5 @250mhz 2-2-2-5
74GB Raptor OS
160GB Seagate 7200.7 NCQ
510W PC Powercooling SLI PSU

512MB HIS X1800XT @621/747 stock speeds
Cat 5.11 drivers

Settings:

Max Quality
4xAA/16xAF
Demo run = 5 runs
Shader Model 3.0

Demo:

HardwareOC Steam results (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Corsair/XMS3500C2/2_1/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/166/300-250-2225-7-14-2222_1.48-1.3-1.6-3.44_3120_dsW2dds1_8F5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/farcrybench/hardwareoc_steam_4xAA_16xAF.html)

Resolution: 640×480
Maximum quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Steam, demo: hocsteam.tmd
Pixel shader: model 3.0
Antialising: 4×
Anisotrophic filtering: 16×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

Score = 97.04 FPS (Run 1)
Score = 100.37 FPS (Run 2)
Score = 96.89 FPS (Run 3)
Score = 98.39 FPS (Run 4)
Score = 100.27 FPS (Run 5)
Average score = 98.59 FPS


Resolution: 800×600
Maximum quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Steam, demo: hocsteam.tmd
Pixel shader: model 3.0
Antialising: 4×
Anisotrophic filtering: 16×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

Score = 96.89 FPS (Run 1)
Score = 99.46 FPS (Run 2)
Score = 100.08 FPS (Run 3)
Score = 97.91 FPS (Run 4)
Score = 101.74 FPS (Run 5)
Average score = 99.21 FPS


Resolution: 1024×768
Maximum quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Steam, demo: hocsteam.tmd
Pixel shader: model 3.0
Antialising: 4×
Anisotrophic filtering: 16×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

Score = 96.52 FPS (Run 1)
Score = 96.79 FPS (Run 2)
Score = 97.75 FPS (Run 3)
Score = 103.11 FPS (Run 4)
Score = 103.04 FPS (Run 5)
Average score = 99.44 FPS


Resolution: 1280×1024
Maximum quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Steam, demo: hocsteam.tmd
Pixel shader: model 3.0
Antialising: 4×
Anisotrophic filtering: 16×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

Score = 87.84 FPS (Run 1)
Score = 92.77 FPS (Run 2)
Score = 94.50 FPS (Run 3)
Score = 94.75 FPS (Run 4)
Score = 95.16 FPS (Run 5)
Average score = 93.00 FPS


Resolution: 1600×1200
Maximum quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Steam, demo: hocsteam.tmd
Pixel shader: model 3.0
Antialising: 4×
Anisotrophic filtering: 16×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

Score = 70.83 FPS (Run 1)
Score = 75.19 FPS (Run 2)
Score = 75.37 FPS (Run 3)
Score = 75.27 FPS (Run 4)
Score = 75.94 FPS (Run 5)
Average score = 74.52 FPS


HardwareOC Archive results (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Corsair/XMS3500C2/2_1/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/166/300-250-2225-7-14-2222_1.48-1.3-1.6-3.44_3120_dsW2dds1_8F5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/farcrybench/hardwareoc_archive_4xAA_16xAF.html)

Resolution: 640×480
Maximum quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Archive, demo: Archive1.tmd
Pixel shader: model 3.0
Antialising: 4×
Anisotrophic filtering: 16×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

Score = 169.79 FPS (Run 1)
Score = 180.26 FPS (Run 2)
Score = 181.61 FPS (Run 3)
Score = 181.01 FPS (Run 4)
Score = 180.31 FPS (Run 5)
Average score = 178.59 FPS


Resolution: 800×600
Maximum quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Archive, demo: Archive1.tmd
Pixel shader: model 3.0
Antialising: 4×
Anisotrophic filtering: 16×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

Score = 163.41 FPS (Run 1)
Score = 176.79 FPS (Run 2)
Score = 183.65 FPS (Run 3)
Score = 193.87 FPS (Run 4)
Score = 193.84 FPS (Run 5)
Average score = 182.31 FPS


Resolution: 1024×768
Maximum quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Archive, demo: Archive1.tmd
Pixel shader: model 3.0
Antialising: 4×
Anisotrophic filtering: 16×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

Score = 149.34 FPS (Run 1)
Score = 157.89 FPS (Run 2)
Score = 156.37 FPS (Run 3)
Score = 155.14 FPS (Run 4)
Score = 156.67 FPS (Run 5)
Average score = 155.08 FPS


Resolution: 1280×1024
Maximum quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Archive, demo: Archive1.tmd
Pixel shader: model 3.0
Antialising: 4×
Anisotrophic filtering: 16×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

Score = 110.17 FPS (Run 1)
Score = 121.16 FPS (Run 2)
Score = 121.20 FPS (Run 3)
Score = 120.88 FPS (Run 4)
Score = 120.97 FPS (Run 5)
Average score = 118.87 FPS


Resolution: 1600×1200
Maximum quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Archive, demo: Archive1.tmd
Pixel shader: model 3.0
Antialising: 4×
Anisotrophic filtering: 16×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

Score = 78.58 FPS (Run 1)
Score = 81.96 FPS (Run 2)
Score = 81.89 FPS (Run 3)
Score = 81.71 FPS (Run 4)
Score = 81.80 FPS (Run 5)
Average score = 81.18 FPS

Seems always the first run is lower ?

Hicks
12-03-2005, 02:11 PM
Cool, i go this, with these settings:

Resolution: 1600×1200
Ultra quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Pier, demo: 1.tmd
Pixel shader: model 3.0
Antialising: None
Anisotrophic filtering: 16×
HDR: level 7
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

Score = 74.47 FPS (Run 1)
Score = 74.56 FPS (Run 2)
Score = 76.98 FPS (Run 3)
Score = 75.78 FPS (Run 4)
Score = 77.12 FPS (Run 5)
Average score = 75.78 FPS

Ill try no HDR next run. Thats with GPU at 690/800 in CCC.

eva2000
12-03-2005, 02:12 PM
you have AA = none ?

Hicks
12-03-2005, 02:21 PM
What the hell?????

Resolution: 1600×1200
Ultra quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Pier, demo: 1.tmd
Pixel shader: model 3.0
Antialising: 4×
Anisotrophic filtering: 16×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

Score = 42.53 FPS (Run 1)
Score = 42.85 FPS (Run 2)
Score = 42.98 FPS (Run 3)
Score = 42.63 FPS (Run 4)
Score = 42.81 FPS (Run 5)
Average score = 42.76 FPS

Why the hell is it so low?

SIOUX
12-03-2005, 02:30 PM
What the hell?????

Resolution: 1600×1200
Ultra quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Pier, demo: 1.tmd
Pixel shader: model 3.0
Antialising: 4×
Anisotrophic filtering: 16×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

Score = 42.53 FPS (Run 1)
Score = 42.85 FPS (Run 2)
Score = 42.98 FPS (Run 3)
Score = 42.63 FPS (Run 4)
Score = 42.81 FPS (Run 5)
Average score = 42.76 FPS

Why the hell is it so low?


disabled adoptive AA ???:)

Hicks
12-03-2005, 02:37 PM
Ah, forgot i have that enabled, also didn't realise you can change the level, here is the same level as EVA

Resolution: 1600×1200
Ultra quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Archive, demo: Archive1.tmd
Pixel shader: model 3.0
Antialising: 4×
Anisotrophic filtering: 16×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

Score = 70.93 FPS (Run 1)
Score = 74.69 FPS (Run 2)
Score = 74.76 FPS (Run 3)
Score = 74.73 FPS (Run 4)
Score = 74.76 FPS (Run 5)
Average score = 73.97 FPS

EVA, make sure you run Ultra Quality!;)

eva2000
12-03-2005, 02:39 PM
woah what a drop.. you have Adapative AA enabled ?

Hicks
12-03-2005, 02:46 PM
Different level, and yes. ^

biohead
12-03-2005, 03:18 PM
am i right that adaptive Aa makes everything look even better (like fences and other stuff). Or was that SuperAA (for crossfire)

so many quality filters I get confused :confused:

eva2000
12-03-2005, 03:27 PM
weird but higher FPS in Ultra Quality mode @stock 621/747 speeds

HardwareOC Archive results (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Corsair/XMS3500C2/2_1/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/166/300-250-2225-7-14-2222_1.48-1.3-1.6-3.44_3120_dsW2dds1_8F5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/farcrybench/hardwareoc_archive_4xAA_16xAF_ultraQ.html)

Resolution: 1024×768
Ultra quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Archive, demo: Archive1.tmd
Pixel shader: model 3.0
Antialising: 4×
Anisotrophic filtering: 16×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

Score = 149.10 FPS (Run 1)
Score = 162.20 FPS (Run 2)
Score = 161.64 FPS (Run 3)
Score = 160.46 FPS (Run 4)
Score = 161.59 FPS (Run 5)
Average score = 158.99 FPS


Resolution: 1280×1024
Ultra quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Archive, demo: Archive1.tmd
Pixel shader: model 3.0
Antialising: 4×
Anisotrophic filtering: 16×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

Score = 113.53 FPS (Run 1)
Score = 125.06 FPS (Run 2)
Score = 125.07 FPS (Run 3)
Score = 124.66 FPS (Run 4)
Score = 124.70 FPS (Run 5)
Average score = 122.60 FPS


Resolution: 1600×1200
Ultra quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Archive, demo: Archive1.tmd
Pixel shader: model 3.0
Antialising: 4×
Anisotrophic filtering: 16×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

Score = 81.40 FPS (Run 1)
Score = 84.99 FPS (Run 2)
Score = 84.55 FPS (Run 3)
Score = 84.53 FPS (Run 4)
Score = 84.48 FPS (Run 5)
Average score = 83.99 FPS


512MB HIS X1800XT @742/882

Ultra Quality mode

HardwareOC Archive results (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Corsair/XMS3500C2/2_1/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/166/300-250-2225-7-14-2222_1.48-1.3-1.6-3.44_3120_dsW2dds1_8F5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/farcrybench/hardwareoc_archive_4xAA_16xAF_ultraQ_742_882.html)

Resolution: 1600×1200
Ultra quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Archive, demo: Archive1.tmd
Pixel shader: model 3.0
Antialising: 4×
Anisotrophic filtering: 16×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

Score = 98.25 FPS (Run 1)
Score = 105.19 FPS (Run 2)
Score = 105.13 FPS (Run 3)
Score = 104.99 FPS (Run 4)
Score = 105.02 FPS (Run 5)
Average score = 103.71 FPS


HardwareOC Steam results (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Corsair/XMS3500C2/2_1/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/166/300-250-2225-7-14-2222_1.48-1.3-1.6-3.44_3120_dsW2dds1_8F5_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/farcrybench/hardwareoc_steam_4xAA_16xAF_ultraQ_742_882.html)

Resolution: 1600×1200
Ultra quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Steam, demo: hocsteam.tmd
Pixel shader: model 3.0
Antialising: 4×
Anisotrophic filtering: 16×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

Score = 80.43 FPS (Run 1)
Score = 86.57 FPS (Run 2)
Score = 85.89 FPS (Run 3)
Score = 86.54 FPS (Run 4)
Score = 84.30 FPS (Run 5)
Average score = 84.74 FPS

Hicks
12-03-2005, 05:16 PM
Pretty nice, 20FPS difference with the extra clocks, dam. Bit of a pain in the arse to use ATi-tool and OC tool every time you boot though.

eva2000
12-03-2005, 05:33 PM
Yeah hopefully either ATI Tool folks or OC Tool folks fix this heh

ugp
12-03-2005, 07:55 PM
Hopefully is not even the word for it.

What have you guys found to be the 24/7 type of overclock to stick with? And at what voltages?

cantankerous
12-04-2005, 05:36 AM
good question, sor far I am finding 680/800 stock volts to be best. I am sure the card has much more in it however with my card getting as hot as it is raising volts sounds out of the question for me. 680/800 at stock volts is still quite nice and can play anygame out there just fine. The fan doesn't have to be higher than 50% either to achieve just under 80c which is nice. Any lower and temps get into the 90's for me and any louder and the whine from the fan is just too much.

eva2000
12-04-2005, 05:41 AM
yeah seems 675/792 sites comfortably

The retailer i got my card from posted this:

The HIS importer has one X1800XT 512mb master card coming in on Tuesday. They've asked me to build it into a PC with another X1800XT-512mb using a DFI Crossfire board - it's for the Atomic awards event at Fox studios on Thursday...hope I can get Crossfire to work - I'll put the benchies here once it comes in.
ooooh HIS X1800XT Mastercard hehe

Hicks
12-04-2005, 06:24 AM
Im just using 690/800 max i can in CCC, stock volts. I don't wanna up volts, as i want to keep the fan on as low as i can, anything more than 40% is to loud.

cantankerous
12-04-2005, 07:10 AM
yup so it seems a good few of us are in agreeance on this. Max CCC on stock volts is best for performance to noise ratio. I can't loop 01 for hours on end at 690 so I set it to 688 (682 actual) and that seems perfect to loop and play everything under the sun without a single issue in regards to artifacts, vpu recovers, hard locks, resets and crashes to desktop. You really don't need faster than that. It's nice to have but is just a bonus and for wow factor I feel. Call of Duty 2 with everything maxed, 1280 x 1024 and Adaptive AA enabled plays smooth as silk on this card. I played the last 30 minutes of fear on this card and it ran incredible as well with most things maxed minus soft shadows. I can't wait to see what future Catalyst drivers brings to this card.

ugp
12-04-2005, 08:40 AM
yup so it seems a good few of us are in agreeance on this. Max CCC on stock volts is best for performance to noise ratio. I can't loop 01 for hours on end at 690 so I set it to 688 (682 actual) and that seems perfect to loop and play everything under the sun without a single issue in regards to artifacts, vpu recovers, hard locks, resets and crashes to desktop. You really don't need faster than that. It's nice to have but is just a bonus and for wow factor I feel. Call of Duty 2 with everything maxed, 1280 x 1024 and Adaptive AA enabled plays smooth as silk on this card. I played the last 30 minutes of fear on this card and it ran incredible as well with most things maxed minus soft shadows. I can't wait to see what future Catalyst d