1700+ JIUHB 52 week madness!

[HMB]

OliT: I've ordered 2 JIUGB:s in köttbulleland. Will have to see how high they go ;)

[STEvil]

9's (like morphlings) seem to be doing good. There are 4's and Y's that are doing good, too, but 2.8ghz is near the top of the pile 8-)

[OliT]

Originally posted by HMB
OliT: I've ordered 2 JIUGB:s in köttbulleland. Will have to see how high they go ;)

From Overclockers.se?
Why didn't I wait like 3 days more, then I would have gotten a Jiugb, Just my luck...

[NoOne]

i cant go too long.. my mobo is kt266a and here in brasil is too hot :) 38ºC is good enought ?

:D

Lets try when i buy my NF2

[N8]

Looks like the JIUCB 0251 is good for 3DMark @ about 2240MHz, 1.95v. Priming @ 2205MHz right now...gonna leave that on overnight. Not as spectacular as the JIUHB 0252 for sure...but surely no slouch. The other 4 should get here tomorrow & then I will do some real testing :)

NoOne,
You need a KT333, KT400, or NF2 to get the most outta that chip! Or perhaps some better RAM? :D

[tediber]

here are my preliminary results of JIUHB 0302 (GREEN)
our weather here is probably similar to that of brazil (HOT) fortunately i do have airconditioning

will do 2.ghz at default Vcore 1.6volts (nice temps)

2.1ghz at 1.7vcore (i'll be happy with this as my daily settting very safe temps 49C idle 52C load)

2.3ghz at 1.9vcore

this is as far as i have tested using sandra and 3dmark ..... unfortunately my 512mb Geil DDR333 runs stable up to 200FSB passes any stress test but can't seem to pass prime95 (it only passes prime95 at 166FSB at low mem settings ...... sucks!)

my maze3 + blackIce pro just can't handle anything above 1.9Vcore ..... the heat starts to build up

morphling is correct to say he's amazing overclock is a combination of very good cooling and a good chip ...... very nice block morphling !!!

and another thing ..... vcore seems to be a bigger factor in CPU temps than the processor speed ...... i'm getting the same temps with the same Vcore from my XP1700+ T-bred A AIUGA as this JIUHB 0302 ....

same temps ..... for
T-bred A at 2.0ghz at 1.9vcore and
T-bred B at 2.3ghz at 1.9vcore

[NoOne]

Originally posted by NoOne
Lets try when i buy my NF2
Sure, and at the moment, my PSU make my PC reset.
Tomorow i must receive my new 500w PSU.. and ill try more overclocks :banana:

[morphling1]

I just read replyes from procooling fellas, they all recieved 1700+ A's looks like newegg is out B's. That's too bad

[OliT]

Originally posted by N8
Looks like the JIUCB 0251 is good for 3DMark @ about 2240MHz, 1.95v. Priming @ 2205MHz right now...gonna leave that on overnight. Not as spectacular as the JIUHB 0252 for sure...but surely no slouch. The other 4 should get here tomorrow & then I will do some real testing :)


Man! Why can't I get that High, mine Refuses to go higher than 1937 Totally stable @1.7V

I always have bad luck

:mad:

[N8]

It seems like a power issue or something. Can you list your full system specs? I've seen chips that more voltage didn't help OC, but that was much higher than 1.7v. Either power or cooling is insufficient :)

[OliT]

My psu might not be the best, but the rails are ok: +5 = 4.97, +3.3=3.33 +12=12.20V Vcore = 1.71V, Cooling Is sufficient I'd say, SLK800, open case, Temp @ fulload 39C. Samsung PC2700, CTL-CB3 and DTM-CB3 (sucks bigtime, but I tried without it), Xp1700+ T-Bred B Jiucb 0251.
Msi KT3-Ultra-Aru. When coming near 2Ghz it bluescreens, not matter what settings I use.

[mongoled]

Hi Olit,

What fsb u pushing there?

Have u tried reducing fsb and upping multiplier?

[OliT]

Yeah, sure I have, Right now running at: 168 Fsb, I tried using the 12.5 Multi to, but no difference.

[N8]

ya what mult, fsb, vcore, & vdimm are you runnin?

[mongoled]

Im gathering u aint got another rig there have you.

Even though everything looks like it should work fine maybe u will need to start eliminating which parts could be the culprit.

If u have other parts i would suggest replacing them and trying again, you need to determine if it is definatley the cpu holding you back.

[OliT]

Multi: 11.5 Right now
Fsb: ~168
Clock Spread Spectrum = Off
Vdimm = Standard
Vcore = 1.7

[OliT]

I don't see how anything could hold me back, It's all running at standard, since this is a KT333 mobo the dividers was activated at 166Mhz Fsb

[mongoled]

Have you tried to set the vcore to its highest voltage whilst leaving the cpu speed @ default and then looking in your bios to check your voltage rails then.

We can then determine if the mobo is workin fine with higher voltages.

If you havnt i suggest u try that .

[OliT]

No, I haven't, I'll try that a bit later.

[mongoled]

Dont know if you busy with stuff but i suggest u try that now

;)

[OliT]

Yeah, Running it right now. All rails looking perfectly stable, nothing seems to be wrong, Vcore @1.71

[mongoled]

What the highest vcore you mobo goes to??

[OliT]

1.7 without doing the pinmod, It only let's me overvolt .1V

My other specs:
WD Caviar 80GB 8Mb Special Edition
Point Of View Ti4200 128Mb
3Com 3C905TX
Samsung 52X Cd-Rom
Using integrated audio
Memory by spd settings (most relaxed)

[mongoled]

Also may be clutching at straws here but has your OS installation come under alot of stress with high fsb. The reason i ask this that if there is any corruption in the OS upon booting @ higher clock speeds this may be causing you to 'bluescreen'

I have suffered this before especially whilst hitting high fsb speeds. A new instalation solved this problem for me.

[OliT]

Yes, actually I reinstalled yesterday, SYSTEM was damaged. The "bluescreens" don't happen when I'm in windows, actually while booting, IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL, BAD_HARDWARE and so on.

[mongoled]

Well im pretty sur we have found your problem dude.

You definatley need more voltage

:p

Unless you got more voltage to that CPU u aint going any higher. Sorry i couldnt break the news to you any easier.

I think your next post should be 'how do i voltage mod a Msi KT3-Ultra-Aru'

Anyway thats is my definate opinion. Your problem is you CPU is hungrey and needs more juice, feed it!

:D

[OliT]

Yeah, that has already been understood from my side ;) I knew it from the day I got the sweet thing.

[N8]

I'd hafta agree....voltage is prolly ur problem @ this point :)

[KaKa]

geez... heheh im getting one..

just one thing. .. waht r your core temps?

[N8]

Luck just ran out ;)

Got my 4 in from Newegg, all JIUCB 0251's ;)

I'll check how they clock later, but I'm not optimistic :D

[morphling1]

Still a lot better then those that got tbred A lately from newegg ;)

Are they running yet :)

[N8]

I'm not home from work yet :)

My cousin IM'd me & told me they came so I got him to scan them in for me LoL ;)

I'll post them in a sec :D

[morphling1]

LOL you couldn't wait ha. :D

[N8]

haha, sure couldn't :)

Here they be...just the steppings, less file size. all green wafers:

[LBJGH]

I just got my green JIUHB 0251 '9'

Currently running prime95 at 1833 default voltage (1.60v).

I have a SLK800 w/36cfm 80mm... what voltage can I push through this chip?

[LBJGH]

pic here.

[N8]

LBJGH,

Don't stop now :)

I'm working on the first chip up there right now. Man does it sure seem to love voltage. Clocks about the same as the other JIUCB I tested so far @ similar voltage, but is clocking higher w/ higher voltage. So far like 2310MHz @ 2.1v....I'll report back :)

[Xizten]

Give me som loooove N8 :)

Anyone know were i can find som OC info about JIUGB?

[N8]

LBJGH,
1.95v should be fine. If its stable, its fine...that's how I look at it anyway :)

Looks like 2320MHz was the max for the first chip in that pic...2.1v, more didn't help.

On to chip #2...running out of time for tonight :D

[LBJGH]

Well I'm up to 2GHz @ 1.70v...
time for some prime95

[LBJGH]

Well this is the top for Day 1.
100% on air (prime95)

http://members.rogers.com/lbjgh/mbm5.jpg

[STEvil]

Since newegg seems to be drying up, I might be able to get some JIUHB's.. gonna have to wait a few days on a confirmation email, though. Order has yet to come in.

[BrainStorm]

Originally posted by STEvil
Since newegg seems to be drying up, I might be able to get some JIUHB's.. gonna have to wait a few days on a confirmation email, though. Order has yet to come in.

STEvil, the 0251 JUIHB's are doing the best of all 1700+s at the moment, based on the 1700+ database I'm trying to put together. Averaging 2224 based on 4 CPUs.

In general, 0251s are averaging 2160 across 15 CPUs (comprised of JIUCB, JIUGB, and JIUHB)

[KnightElite]

I just ordered a 1700+ JIUHB, should be in before the weekend, so we'll see how it goes ;).

[STEvil]

If I can get a JIUHB 0251 or better, I am happy.. 8-)

EDIT

wherefrom, KE??

[N8]

Well, the 2nd JIUCB up there also liked voltage, but didn't clock as well as the 1st. Looks like 2250MHz @ 2.1v is the most she'll do 3D at. :)

Didn't get finished testing that last night till right before I had to leave & I didn't get home till late so I'm just now reporting ;)

Should have time after work today to test the other 2 :D

[WannaGoFast]

My 2 should arrive today, so hopefully I'll have some results later this evening.

Peace

WannaGoFast

[N8]

GO wanna go! :D

[NoOne]

I must get my new PSU today :D

If arrives today, ill post my results here :D
Tbread 1700+ JIUGB 0251..

[morphling1]

I think a lot of you here think that psu is the problem. I just finished testing 5 psu, and 300W Enhance could easily run 2.5GHz cpu at 2.1V Toast loading for 1h sure the 5V line dropped to 4.6V but stability was never in quiestion. My old crappy maxpower PSU (cheap chinese stuff) also run everithing without problem. For me going to 380W Antec truepower didn't get me single MHz more. Only good thing is, that the rails are holding in +-3% area like they should, and the PSU is very silent, which is the main reason I bought it.
The only problem I had with PSU was with my old Macase 300W that I run my palo 1600+ at 2GHz 2.2V and one day it just died, but that one had combined power on 3.3 and 5 V line only 145W

[NoOne]

Im sure that my PSU have problems.. why?
Because i run my PC at 10x100Mhz (1Ghz) 1.6v (default).. without any PCI extra card and any CD-ROM, only 1 60GB HD and 1 voodoo3 3000.. without overclock..

I leave my PC in idle.. for 1 our.. and when 1min before i pic-up my mouse.. its reset...

Very crazy.. my 3.3line is 3.18-3.22.. i think this is the real problem

[KnightElite]

Originally posted by STEvil
If I can get a JIUHB 0251 or better, I am happy.. 8-)

EDIT

wherefrom, KE??

www.vibecomputers.com

[morphling1]

My 3.3 line are also low 3.18-3.2 V, but still that does not mean I can't run my ddr at 200+
I'm just saying the problem could very well be somewhere else, rebooting also doesn't necessry means bad psu, turn auto restart in window system properties and it will very likely be BSOD that you couldn't see, and with my experience that was always the problem with memory or cpu overclocked or set up wrongly. PSU could be the problem if your Vcore fluctuate like crazy and if sometimes drop to low that mean cpu didn't get enough juice and it crashed. My 5V line was as low as 4.4V but my cpu was still stable and the problem wasn't in bad PSU but bad atx plug conection, so it got hoter and hoter until I didn't check that out and find out the conector is burned.
To remenise a little :
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/burned%20atx1.jpg
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/burned%20atx2.jpg

And here my new made 1mm copper wire plugs:
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/new%20atx.jpg

No problem from then on, same el-cheapo PSU that can easily run even my most overclocked cpu.

[N8]

As I said last week I fried my 400w Antec. I've since powered it up w/o it hooked to a PC & used my multimeter to test the rails on it, & had to laugh at the results. I tested the 12v line & it fluctuated rapidly between as low as 10v & as high as 13.5v. Both the 3.3v & 5v rails had similar behavior.

Anyways, over the weekend I wanted to do some more testing on my new CPU so I steal the 450W Allied PSU out of my duallie, swap a 350w generic PSU out of XF4 for the duallie, & replace XF4's PSU w/ my trusty Enlight 250W...nearing 3 yrs old. Needless to say, I didn't adjust the OC or voltage of the 1600+ @ 1909MHz in XF4 1 bit & its run flawlessly on a 250W Enlight PSU. This is @ 11.5x166=1909MHz, DDR setup. This PSU ran the rig I had up before I built the duallie for over a year, another DDR setup. I only replaced it due to building the duallie. I just figured that 2 CPU's would require more than a 250W PSU...just my gut feeling tho, it didn't actually fail any tests.

I'm a firm believer that if you're going to build a machine that you're wanting to OC to the max that you should buy a nice PSU, but you don't need to spend a fortune. I like to have a 450W to rule out the fact that it could be the PSU holding me back, but that certainly doesn't mean a 250W couldn't do the job...you'd just never know if ur PSU was holding ya back or not if ya didn't have a monster to verify this against ;)

[morphling1]

:D I agree
but something is strange with those 400W Antec's. I had the same one, before current 380W TP. I adjusted the pots too, and it worked great until one day when I powered on it just realease loud bang, in it was dead. So I'm guessing it had to do something with manualy setting up the pots. I increase my 3.3+ line from 3.2 to 3.45V in mbm. You probably did the same right N8, just something to think about :)

[NoOne]

Morph.. how did you manualy set 3.3+ line to 3.45v ?

[N8]

Yep I did the same morph :)

NoOne...by turning pots inside the PS ;)

[NoOne]

Sorry, im brazilian and my english is not so good :)
Can you help me to understand what is "turning pots inside the PS".. whats the meaning of POTS ?

Thnks and sorry for my baad english.. :D

[morphling1]

POT as potentiometer as variable resistor ;)

[NoOne]

Hummmmmmmmm... Pots is "Potenciometros" in Portuguese :D
do you know how can i do that ? some guide or anything like these?

Thnks to altavista.com :D

Edit: Thnks you to morphin1 :D

[N8]

You can only do it if your PS has the pots inside. They're pretty obvious so if your PS has them you should see them right away. You just have to turn them to change the resistance & voltage.

Mind you I do this while running & under load but its prolly not the smartest way to do it as you can get shocked quite easily. Also that opening the PS voids your warrany most times :D

[morphling1]

You too :) I did the same so much easier if you can watch the voltages in bios while turning the pots, but you have to be EXTRA carefull, doing this.
Otherwise its try and see method on power off PSU, don't forget to go in small steps, turning 1 degree can already change the values for 0.1V. Also there are probably two pots on for 5+&12+ line and the other for 3.3+ line.

[NoOne]

My PSU is an Fun Hung.. its really sux :D
i dont see any pots in PSU..

My new PSU is an Maxxtro 500w.. but i dont have it in my hands

[N8]

Ok, few threads back I reported # 2 chip as max'n @ 2250MHz @ 2.1v...I Prime'd it for 39mins @ 2GHz - 1.65v & no errors. I don't have time to prime for 24hrs, that tells me she's pretty stable.

The 3rd chip is in right now. THis one also liked a ton of voltage. Max'd out for 3D @ 2300MHz - 2.15v. I'm doing Prime on that 1 right now for about 30mins so far... 2GHz - 1.6v(default). Nice...these things are like 2400+'s for $50 :D

4th & final chip will go in in a bit. We'll see what she can do. ;)

P.S. Ordered yet another 1 from Newegg today just for chits & giggles :lol:

[NoOne]

Whou!!

I still dont received my new PSU ..
But.. i try some overclocks today and run sandra memory burn..
Before it i can only run 143mhz is cas3.. now i was able to get 153 Mhz is CAS3..
Can you belive on it? I dont try tu use CAS2 yet but.. 153Mhz is good enought because my PCI is too high.. (1/4 divider for 153 is about 38,25Mhz..)

[Jupiler]

Originally posted by morphling1
:D I agree
but something is strange with those 400W Antec's. I had the same one, before current 380W TP. I adjusted the pots too, and it worked great until one day when I powered on it just realease loud bang, in it was dead. So I'm guessing it had to do something with manualy setting up the pots. I increase my 3.3+ line from 3.2 to 3.45V in mbm. You probably did the same right N8, just something to think about :)

You guys are starting to scare me :eek:
I also have an Antec 400W hooked on my 8RDA+ and 2100+.
The 3.3V line has been adjusted to 3.4V not so long ago (for the IT7 v2.0) and I haven't changed it since I installed it last week.
Now, I really hope that it won't burn-up or explode, just like you and N8 have experienced.

[N8]

hehe Jupiler. Mine didn't physically catch fire or anything...just took a dump ;)

Working on the last chip I have here...this appears to be the slowest of the batch so far...taking alot of voltage @ very low MHz, lol

Report back w/ final results later. :)

[kchip]

Guys,

I have an Antec 430 TruePower. Im running an 80w TEC for my Gf4 off a 12v plug. I have noticed that my 12v line is around 11.80 most the time.

So I believe that is still in spec and all , but does my PSU have the pots you guys have described. Im not worried about voiding the warrenty - butIM curious if someone knows the answer before I even bother to crack it open...???

[N8]

I had an Antec TP 430W & it didn't have the pots. I don't know if they've changed that since...this was approx. a year ago :)

[KaKa]

hey! NoOne... hehe hello! remember me? :p

I use 2 Maxxtro's 500W and none of them have pots.... sorry...

Morph, what's your PSU brand/model? never seen one with pots inside.... :eek:

[N8]

I have an Antec 400W[PP-412X] & 2 Allied 450W's...they all have pots inside :)

[WannaGoFast]

Ok finally got a look at these badboys

ack.....one is an aiugA..wtf...boooooooooooooo NewEgg :(

doesnt boot over 2000Mhz...period.

The other is a JIUCB 0251

seems good for around 2200 Mhz so far.

will test more tommorow.

peace

WannaGoFast

[LBJGH]

Mine is running nails at 2135MHz on air. :D :D

[morphling1]

All true power PSU's are without pots, thats because they automaticly hold the lines in +-3% area and that's good for everyone, except those overclockers who could use a little more juice on 3.3 line for chipsets (VIA mobos) I'm probably losing few FSB MHz because my I/O is at 3.2V but I still love this PSU cos' of the silence.
KaKa, pretty much all other PSU got pots inside, but they're usualy hidden under some wires, or in some very ackward position. Let me see if I can found that link about setting pots in Antec SmartPower

[morphling1]

Here its is http://www.3dxtreme.org/psumod.shtml just look where the 3.3 pot is hidden :)

[Gibbo]

Hi there

Over here at OcUK they've got AXDA1700DUT3C 9
JIUHB 0251VPXW
in stock, from reading this thread am I to believe these CPU's to be very good clockers?

[Raptor]

can you test one Gibbo?

[D1S0RD3R]

My T´Bred is JIUCB.
What you think about this stepping????

[Raptor]

D1s0RD3R, how much can you push that cpu?

[Gibbo]

Raptor were no allowed to test hardware, so unfortunately not. :(

[Raptor]

ups, that's to bad...

but hey, can't you ask a costumer to tell you about his experiments?

[D1S0RD3R]

Raptor vai com calma que as mems só chegam amanhã da Globaldata..
My friend also has a 1800+ T´bred bought at the same place at the same time and he was able to push it to 2 GHZ with a A7N8X deluxe, Volcano 9 , but He has ddr 266 standart RAM... :banana: :banana:
Raptor kt é ke a tal MX440 dava sem AS3???

[N8]

Gibbo,

Aww c'mon...you've got to at least buy 1 and try it out ;)

[Gibbo]

Hi there

I am tempted but I can't be bother to unlock the CPU and then my board at home in the parents system is a modded KR7a so not the best board to get the best results, even though it aint bad. ;)

[Diablo II]

I'll try two of that famous JIUHB 025x soon ;)

[N8]

Hello Gibbo,

Maybe knowing that the CPU comes factory unlocked up to 12.5x will be enough for you to give 1 a shot then? :D

[KaKa]

Originally posted by morphling1
Here its is http://www.3dxtreme.org/psumod.shtml just look where the 3.3 pot is hidden :)

crazy bastards....:mad: :D LOL ... a shame i cant open mine right now:(.... I cracked it up on day 1 anyway, so no warranty for me :)! but.. when I opened it I dont remember seeing any pots whatsoever... §§§§z.. got to get it back from my father's..

PS: thanks for the link ;) ... my maxxtro also has a temp controled fan..

[N8]

BTW guys, I've finished testing the 6 CPU's I've received to date. My results can be found both in this thread & in a more organized form in the Tbred B results thread that is a sticky in this OC forum which can be found here. (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?postid=87843#post87843)

I've got 1 more coming from newegg that I just ordered yesterday. Hopefully it is a B & not an A as some folks have gotten A's recently :(

[N8]

You can follow fairly-well the CPU's that are coming from newegg here:
http://secure.newegg.com/app/CustratingReview.asp?item=19-103-351

Look like more JIUHB's have been coming recently. I've got my fingers crossed for the 1 I currently have in-transit :)

[piston]

my xp1700+ JIUHB 0252@2425mhz@2v watercooling 8k3a
http://atlas.imagemagician.com/images/pizton/jiuhb0251xhigh4.JPG

[N8]

piston,
Very nice OC :)
Where did you get your chip from?
Do you happen to have a close-up pic of the CPU?

[cpulloverclock]

1700+ JIUHB 0252 rock stable at 2530MHz
a screen@2642MHz and 2.24v in wc
KD7

http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/2642.jpg

[N8]

cpulloverclock,

Very nice OC as well :D

[kingskawn]

Damned, I went to all the stores this afternoon (Belgium, Brussels) and couldn't find any amd 1700+. They all sell above Amd 2000+. I found 1 store that sells a 1700+ but AIUGA, so I don't think that one is good.
Damned where to find those JIUHB in Europe!!???

[N8]

kingskawn,

Welcome to Xtreme :)

Keep lookin! ;)

[N8]

I put the JIUHB back in. Up to 2461MHz 3D-stable @ 1.95v. Getting very very close to that 1GHz OC on air :D

Report back later w/ results. Perhaps more voltage will help...mebbe I didn't take this thing high enough w/ the volts :D

Edit: 1GHz OC on air accomplished! 2474MHz is 3D-stable @ 2v. Off to try higher :)

[morphling1]

Great job N8, this one sure rocks.
I just placed my second JIUHB from air cooling under water cooling. This one is a slightly less overclockable. It does 2470 MHz Prime 95 stable 20°C water 2.05V , more voltage doesn't help.

[BrainStorm]

Morphling, I never did see pictures of your finished heat sink. Did I miss them somewhere? Also, these chips that are doing 2.4 for you on water, what did they do on air?

[BrainStorm]

Originally posted by N8
I put the JIUHB back in. Up to 2461MHz 3D-stable @ 1.95v. Getting very very close to that 1GHz OC on air :D

Report back later w/ results. Perhaps more voltage will help...mebbe I didn't take this thing high enough w/ the volts :D

Edit: 1GHz OC on air accomplished! 2474MHz is 3D-stable @ 2v. Off to try higher :)

N8, you are kicking @ss and taking names now, brutha!

[morphling1]

Haven't finish the sink yet, can't find time :) Need to make shroud for the fan an few other details.
It clocked 2200 on air but with 1.85V

[BrainStorm]

Originally posted by morphling1
Haven't finish the sink yet, can't find time :) Need to make shroud for the fan an few other details.
It clocked 2200 on air but with 1.85V

Thanks, good to know.

[morphling1]

One update about JIUHB stepping week 45. Some guy from local forums had all sort of problem with this cpu couldn't get past 1.8 GHz on air, so I told him the he should bring it to me, and I'll take a look at.
Slap my wb on start at 12.5*133 2V, 2 GHz is all I could get out.
So 1700+ JIUHB week 45 = very bad, and it was even brown, nothing helped that chip. I would say it has to be at least week 50

[kingskawn]

What mobo do you guys use? Because I'm searching a new one and I think I'm going to get one of those new nforce2 boards? Any recommandation for a brand? Epox, Abit, Leadtek, Chaintech, Asus,Asrock...?
My overclock will be on air in the first time and after watercooling ;)

[N8]

morph,
Shame about that chip...surprised they even made 1700+ B's in week 45. I looped 3D overnight @ 2475MHz :)
Set it up to loop all day while I'm at work @ 2488MHz...we'll see if it can do it ;)

kingskawn,
Welcome to Xtreme :)
morphling1 & I both use the EPoX 8K3A for our testing. Until Abit releases a NF2 w/ more voltage options, I would say the EPoX 8RDA+ would be the best NF2 solution.

[Diablo II]

And what about 0302 chips? 3 of new 2003 JIUHB 1700s puppies are coming to my home in few days ;-)

[N8]

Judging by what others have been getting & when I ordered, I'm [totally] guessing that's what's coming. I'm thinkin its not gonna get here till monday tho, so we'll see :)

Edit: Just checked FedEx site. I may indeed get it today :D

[BrainStorm]

Originally posted by Diablo II
And what about 0302 chips? 3 of new 2003 JIUHB 1700s puppies are coming to my home in few days ;-)

The 0302s seem to be pretty good so far, but we're just starting to get results in on them.

[Diablo II]

Originally posted by BrainStorm
The 0302s seem to be pretty good so far, but we're just starting to get results in on them.

yes these are pretty new chips man :toast: I hope they'll rock!

:toast:

I'll post here my experience with all of these 3 new puppies ;)

[N8]

BrainStorm,

I've seen you tracking these chips heavily. Ordered yet? Any experience yet? Or are you 1 of the 1's patient enough to sit back & wait? ;)

[BrainStorm]

Originally posted by N8
BrainStorm,

I've seen you tracking these chips heavily. Ordered yet? Any experience yet? Or are you 1 of the 1's patient enough to sit back & wait? ;)

N8, I've managed to be patient so far, but tonight I'm probably going to a computer flea market they hold once a month here in Dallas. If I find the right stepping at the right price - my holdout may be over. :D Now if SVC just hadn't screwed up my order for an SLK-800 and TT Smart Fan 2, I'd be just about ready!

[BrainStorm]

Originally posted by Diablo II
yes these are pretty new chips man :toast: I hope they'll rock!

:toast:

I'll post here my experience with all of these 3 new puppies ;)

Please do. I'm quite interested :)

[vale46]

i have tried one o f these 0302...it's an jiuhb0302...do 2358mhz with 2v watercooled....this is quiet good:) :)

[Diablo II]

Originally posted by vale46
i have tried one o f these 0302...it's an jiuhb0302...do 2358mhz with 2v watercooled....this is quiet good:) :)

hmm not so good man :(

[Xizten]

Originally posted by Diablo II
hmm not so good man :(

not so good?
~900 mhz OC and ~60 % OC, i think thats quite good thoug... there won't be to many chips lite morphling1s :/

~2.85 on water, thast respect :D

[vale46]

lo so diablo:D :D
i konw that this 0302 isn't too madness like thew morph's one....but my watercool system isn't optimized,I haven't a waterkiller

[N8]

vale46,

Welcome to Xtreme :)

Very nice OC...congrats on it :D

[BrainStorm]

Originally posted by Diablo II
hmm not so good man :(

I'm going to have to disagree. 2358 for a 1700+ is damn good. It's about average for a 2100+ AIUHB, but at $50 instead of $100.

[vale46]

thx N8:D
whit this frequency i can't run prime95....so i had to work on it a little bit:D

[vale46]

here in italy there is a clocker with an aiugb0251 @2500 1.85v aircooled...to find something good you should be lucky...

[morphling1]

Yeah, anything over 2400 MHz is super great for those cheap little 1700+ tbreds. No piece of hardware ever produce such power for so little money. I just hope that later weeks will be good too. But it's not necessary, remember 1600+ palos I think the best ones were from week 13.
Maybe only concistency will be more even, and all will hit some clock with ease, because now in early weeks, results are very scatered

[N8]

Just checked FedEx site again. (1) 1700+ should be @ home waiting for me when I leave work here. Along with your memory, morph ;)

[Xizten]

N8, go home, pick up the brand know CPU, put it in the sockel, and spank the baby big time! :)

Let us see det first 1700+ to clock over 3 ghz :)

^^

[N8]

At least they sent me a B, hehe. Lets see how she clocks...report back in a bit.

[BrainStorm]

Originally posted by N8
At least they sent me a B, hehe. Lets see how she clocks...report back in a bit.

How many of those d@mn things have you bought, N8? :D

I'm going to see how my powers of prediction are doing :lol:

let's see...how about 2.45 @ 2.1v ;)

[morphling1]

I know I could count on you to get that JIUHB 0203 :D
And :toast: for getting the mem. If you'll find some time during cpu benching burn them in a little
And you got email :)

[FragBuckler]

Just to let you guys know, my 0302 JIUHB does 2125mhz perfectly stable on air with 1.8v 12.5x170. This is as high as I'm going to get it though becuz either my ram or my mobo doesnt like it when i push it past 170fsb and 12.5 is the highest multiplier i can get to work... :mad:

Im still pretty happy with it as a $50 chip though.

[morphling1]

Originally posted by FragBuckler
Just to let you guys know, my 0302 JIUHB does 2125mhz perfectly stable on air with 1.8v 12.5x170. This is as high as I'm going to get it though becuz either my ram or my mobo doesnt like it when i push it past 170fsb and 12.5 is the highest multiplier i can get to work... :mad:

Im still pretty happy with it as a $50 chip though.

Did you drop memory timings to slowest and tried again. Or is 170 as high as you can go no whatever the timings ?

[FragBuckler]

Originally posted by morphling1
Did you drop memory timings to slowest and tried again. Or is 170 as high as you can go no whatever the timings ?

Yup, i lowered the timings as much as i could and it didnt seem to make a difference. It will run at 170fsb with totally maxed timings, but it wont run stably at anything higher than that no matter the timings.

[N8]

This chip is looking decent so far....as long as it doesn't stop taking voltage. I can tell u this, I'm already above 2.3GHz. I'll get to ur mail soon morph :)

Let me open MSN too ;)

[BrainStorm]

Originally posted by BrainStorm
How many of those d@mn things have you bought, N8? :D

I'm going to see how my powers of prediction are doing :lol:

let's see...how about 2.45 @ 2.1v ;)

Looks like my powers of prediction may be on. Hope so since I may buy one tonight. ;)

N8, I'm also predicting it will take the voltage (note the original 2.1v prediction). The AIUHB 0302 2100+s seemed to like the volts, I'm betting the JIUHB 0302 1700+s will, too.

[N8]

LoL You're guess is looking very possible. I am over 2.4GHz stable in 3D...hot dam.

This is chip #7 to answer your earlier question...sorry I missed it.

And as I've mentioned before, all my Tbred B's results can be found in a nice organized manner in this post:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?postid=87843#post87843 :)

[BrainStorm]

Originally posted by N8
LoL You're guess is looking very possible. I am over 2.4GHz stable in 3D...hot dam.

This is chip #7 to answer your earlier question...sorry I missed it.

And as I've mentioned before, all my Tbred B's results can be found in a nice organized manner in this post:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?postid=87843#post87843 :)

Nice summary. :)

Perhaps at 2.1v I should have suggested 2.5 ghz given your 2.488 @ 2.0v. Oh well, if I underestimated, everyone will be happy! :D

[N8]

Ya, but that chip's a bit of a gem....& an odd 1 at that. It will do that speed @ 2v, but over 2v does nothing for it ;)

Max 3DMark-stable speed for chip #7 is 2438MHz @ 2.15v. You were close :p

[morphling1]

That's very interesting in those tbreds. Some realy likes voltages but some just won't let be pushed with higher volateges.
But still good to see that 0302 doing well, maybe brown one would be the one (yeah me superstitious about colors :D)

Btw. 2days to go, to prognosed low temperatures and the hunt for 100% oc.

[N8]

morphling1,

Can't wait for ur results ;)
BTW, why do u keep signing off of MSN every time I message you, lol.

[morphling1]

Blah I don't get that msm, I'm on-line 24/7 but that msm is totaly confused, if I'm chating with someone it's ok, if I go away for few minutes it just loose conection.
Let me contact you :)

[BrainStorm]

Originally posted by N8
Ya, but that chip's a bit of a gem....& an odd 1 at that. It will do that speed @ 2v, but over 2v does nothing for it ;)

Max 3DMark-stable speed for chip #7 is 2438MHz @ 2.15v. You were close :p

It's within my margin of error :p

Nice oc. Too bad SVC screwed up my order for an SLK-800 with a TT Smart Fan II. It should have been here today and ready for a new chip if I buy one tonight :(

Oh well...as the saying goes...sh*t happens.

The next time I'm tempted to buy something online from someone other than Newegg, just shoot me and put me out of my misery beforehand! ;)

[N8]

I've ordered from SVC many times. They've only ever screwed up 1 order of mine & compensated me very well for it. :)

[BrainStorm]

Originally posted by N8
I've ordered from SVC many times. They've only ever screwed up 1 order of mine & compensated me very well for it. :)

What did they do for you?

[KnightElite]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=100404

That's the top overclock I can get, JIUHB 0302 1700+, which is limited by my other components I think, since it craps out below 200 FSB regardless of 5X or 12.5X multiplier :D.

[FragBuckler]

Looking pretty good there KE :toast:

what voltage are you running?

[KnightElite]

2.05V, but only to keep it hot enough that I don't get condensation, lol. Part of my sealing around the socket broke off, and I'm too lazy to fix it :D.

[FragBuckler]

haha, thats a new one on me;)

[STEvil]

Try higher than 12..

Just gotta pop the last L3 to get 13x and up, right..? I forgot 8-/

[BrainStorm]

Well, crap. Went to 1st Saturday (a monthly computer flea market here in Dallas) and nobody had a f'ing 1700 T-bred! Oh well, I guess it's about time to order from Newegg or ExcaliberPC. Or maybe one from each :D

[N8]

Originally posted by BrainStorm
What did they do for you?
PM me & I can tell you. You never know who's watching ;)

KE,
Very nice! Don't stop now :D

[morphling1]

Just this, http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm=1064200 nice to be in the company of prometeia cooled tbreds.
More tomorrow I'm going to sleep :)

[SKYNET]

Originally posted by morphling1
Just this, http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm=1064200 (PC Mark 2002 score ) nice to be in the company of prometeia cooled tbreds.
More tomorrow I'm going to sleep :)

*rofl*

this link is death ;)

PCmark (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm=1064200)

[morphling1]

Ups, corrected :D

[morphling1]

Like weathermen said, yesterday temperatures drop bellow zero again, so I agaun put my case on the window shelf and closed it so I wouldn't freeze :)
Temperatures of the water was -6°C this time and this was good enough for my 1700+ to fit whooping 2938 MHz for CPUID shoot

http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Benchmarks/2938%20crop.GIF

Benchable speed was 2865 MHz
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Benchmarks/2868.JPG

-10 to 12°C water would parobably enable me to bench at 2900 and maybe post make a CPUID shoot at 3GHz this all testing was made with 2.15V (2.1 real) If I change it to 2.2V it would BSOD on me loading in windows.

Remember guys what I said a lot earlier in this thread if I could have constant -5 to 10 degress water this water cooling would be in the class of prometeia or better, you must not forget even if this cpu is good, it still not as good as 2700, 2800+ chips.
And if I looked with lowest voltage I can hit 2008 MHz stable at 1.4V with water cooling while few guys in Slovenia with 2100+ can get the same on Zalman air cooling.
Anyway I'm just sorry I didn't have time to put back wc on GF4 because I could have score a little better then this one.
16005 3dmark 2k1 points (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5826631)
Good enough for second "Duron" GF4 score, but still way off nforce2 that reign on top. Maybe in few weeks time I can change that :D

[Craig]

Congrats once again Morphling !!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :rocker:

Another great O/C benchmark. I hope you get that -12 or so tonight.

Much respect.

Hope your hand is healing well.

[N8]

Very nice OC morph! Surpassed 100% OC I see :D

3DMark looks good too....can't view the compare tho, ORB down for me right now ;)

[Walrusbonzo]

Morphing that is unbelievable!!!!!

Well done, amazing overclock, I should get my JIUHB 1700+ this week :)

[Learn]

it' s incredible

very very nice Morphling

[STEvil]

o.o o.O O.O O.o o.o

Wow. I think we have a new 300/333a

8-)

Hm. ($$CDN$$) $100 for a 1700+, or $1000 for a P4 3.06?

LOL 8-)

[KnightElite]

100% Overclock. Very well done morphling ;).

[morphling1]

Originally posted by Craig
Congrats once again Morphling !!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :rocker:

Another great O/C benchmark. I hope you get that -12 or so tonight.

Much respect.

Hope your hand is healing well.

Thanks to you and everybody else of course.
Finger is doing better, it only looks bad, but it almost doesn't hurt me anymore.

[Raptor]

Originally posted by morphling1
Remember guys what I said a lot earlier in this thread if I could have constant -5 to 10 degress water this water cooling would be in the class of prometeia or better, you must not forget even if this cpu is good, it still not as good as 2700, 2800+ chips.


First of all, great Overclock and chip you got there M8!

The question i have, does the 2700+/2800+ are so much better than those 1700+?

[STEvil]

My HD tests did better than yours?? o.O

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm=1064200

Old processor, too, btw. Waiting on new one to arrive.. shipped earlier today 8-)

[morphling1]

Originally posted by Raptor
First of all, great Overclock and chip you got there M8!

The question i have, does the 2700+/2800+ are so much better than those 1700+?

In general they should be better, and I think they are. But I can't give you any better answers, remember I think only JIUHB are showing 2400-2500 on air (specific weeks) 2700+ I'm almost certain that it would hit that without too much problem.

STEvil, all udmas disabled there, didn't want to risk any fauilre, it would probably work with udma too, like at 2805, but I wanted to remove any possible problem maker, those goal was cpu score :)

[STEvil]

ah, that makes sense 8-)

Now I gotta get to the email.. lol.

[cpulloverclock]

Originally posted by morphling1
Thanks to you and everybody else of course.
Finger is doing better, it only looks bad, but it almost doesn't hurt me anymore.
Great oc :toast:
I'll try a master oc with a prometeia and vapochill

[berkut]

Morphling, i thing you would love my new baby (it will be finished this week'end): a phase change chiller capable of maintaining temps of -45C with a 200W heatload :D That would be a 150% o/c ;):D:D:D:D

Soon ill get a new cpu (my agoia 1600 @ 2048 is going to my sisters comp) and i know what cpu will be next to :stick:

[NoOne]

whow.. lets see :D

[morphling1]

Originally posted by berkut
Morphling, i thing you would love my new baby (it will be finished this week'end): a phase change chiller capable of maintaining temps of -45C with a 200W heatload :D That would be a 150% o/c ;):D:D:D:D

Soon ill get a new cpu (my agoia 1600 @ 2048 is going to my sisters comp) and i know what cpu will be next to :stick:

:slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
Damn man what the hell are you using for fluid mixture ? Are you gonna post pictures when finished, I would realy like to see that monster.

[berkut]

i have some pics of it in its very first form:

http://republika.pl/berkut0/12.jpg
http://republika.pl/berkut0/17.jpg
http://republika.pl/berkut0/6.jpg


Even in such a even. PRE Alpha stage it cooled my RIP Tb 1.33 @ 1.8ghz @ 2.2V with a eap. temp. of -18C (after some tuning)

In the current prototype wich ill be finishing this weekend only the compressor and maybe condenser will be used, everything will be different.

But rest assure, when ill finish this prototype im doing my next stage of this phase change cooler- cascade cooling using propane for the first stage (currently propane also will be used or MAYBE R22) and ethane for the second stage for some god blessing -110C @ about 150-200W heatload :D But its still a project, the only things that dont let me do it is the fact i dont have a second powerfull enough compresor (my current compresor is 1/2hp and i need at least a 1-1.5hp compressor for the second stage...

Maybe my o/c arent so tremendous as your but polish overclockers arent bad :D

[berkut]

Oh i forgot to say that its a direct die phase change cooler so i dont use any liquid, the chillant is a mixture of propane and butane for testing

[morphling1]

Insane :D I thought that -45°C is a little extreme for liquid.
I on the other hand will be making inline water chiller, so no res. just huge copper block with evaporator in the middle while water will pass on both sides of evaporator through micro channels with huge surface area for best cooling. The goal for me is to have everything as small as possible and try to fit it in case or at most something like prometia add on.

That condenser look huge also, how much did everything costed, did you bought new parts or searched for used ones

[berkut]

I think a direct die system would be much more efficient and simple to build since your skill's with making waterblockis are extremely high...

I bought it for 200zl (thats about 50$ or 50E)

[berkut]

oh, and orygynaly it was a water chiller, based on r12, using as plain watercooler it cooled water with a 70W heatload to obout -20C but using custom made evaporators and other stuff like that you can squeeze some power out of it ;)

[STEvil]

Use liquid helium... -271 C

Its even as dangerous as propane, for kicks! hehe 8-)

[morphling1]

You know why I wanted efficient water chiller so that I can have multiple cooling effect on cpu, gpu, vid. mem and nb, much better overall, then only direct die phase change on cpu. Also like I said efficient water chiller in combination with efficient water block is in the same class as prometeia. (custom made direct die systems with more powerful compressor are better though)

[berkut]

But why do you want to complicate your life so much ;)

You can do your system in a knother way. You use DD phase change and the suction line doesent go in to the compressor directly but through cooling coils wich cool water. By this you have -40C on the cpu and about 0C to -5C water ;)

[berkut]

You can suck MUCH more power out of prometeia if you change the refrigerant from r134a (boiling temp of -26.1C) to R404A (-46.6C) and changing your cap tube and condenser (changing the condenser i think isn't needed that much) you could get that -50C noproblemo :D

[N8]

Hey guys...I have been rather busy the past few days. I got a new chip in today, going to see if I can get it in tonight & test it. Then I really need to test that mem for ya morph...I promise I will soon...then get itsent. :)

BBL w/ results, hopefully...

[morphling1]

Originally posted by berkut
But why do you want to complicate your life so much ;)

You can do your system in a knother way. You use DD phase change and the suction line doesent go in to the compressor directly but through cooling coils wich cool water. By this you have -40C on the cpu and about 0C to -5C water ;)

This was exactly on my mind at first. Hmmm maybe I'll reconsider again, you know why I wanted chiller because of this new waterblock perfroming so well, so with chilled water like you see, things get very very interesting as overclocking goes.

But if I come up with some bad ass evaporator cpu block, and then take it to water chiller this could be good too. But looking at the future gpus pumpung 70W at defaults so more then 100W overclocked and overvolted, some serious cooling should still be happening after the cpu block,

[morphling1]

Originally posted by N8
Hey guys...I have been rather busy the past few days. I got a new chip in today, going to see if I can get it in tonight & test it. Then I really need to test that mem for ya morph...I promise I will soon...then get itsent. :)

BBL w/ results, hopefully...

So that's the second JIUHB 0302 you got, let see if this one is any better, here in Slovenia everything is depleted, just old 1700+ A's or JIUCB. I hope that next week they get som new shipments, maybe some gems that start with an A and brown in color :D

Just take time, no need to hurry N8 :toast:

[berkut]

Did you consider that you would have to use a veryyy powerfull pump ? Remeber that your block has a high ratio of reducing the flow through it, even if you have such incredible scores with plain water i would like to remind you that antifreeze based on glycol is much, much denser and at low tempertures its like honey and it wont flow through your blok that well as water. If you'll try to use alcohol it has a very low heat capacity compared to water! Its a blind spot with using a chiller :/

I understand your thinking, using a waterchiller will give you much benefits but the cpu temps will suffer...

I have very bad memories from extreme cooling graphics cards, my Radeon 32mb DDR simply cracked in to pieces at -40C and i didnt put any of my "cool'ware" on my radeon 8500 beacause of that... Chipset cooling was also never lucky for me, lots of mainboard smoked in my hands in various ways but it was always was related to extreme cooling... Simply dont like it =)

As far as it goes to chipsets and graphic cards i prefer temps of mid 5C... But the cpu is a completely different thing :D

[morphling1]

I was aiming for up to -15°C water, so sligtly more then with overclocking test. With destiled water and G12 additive no problems with water getting too dense, I'm totaly satisfied with that result I just wanna make those water temps 24/7 operational.
I don't want totaly extreme probably temp controled chiller with maximum -15°C and for regular running about 0°C
But making direct die with secondary chiller also looks extremly good idea. Oh well still some time left to think everything over.

[berkut]

-15C is easyly attaineble with a 400W heatload, used compressors capable of archieving such temps can be bought cheap...

[STEvil]

If you need the pressure, morph, I will let you in on the pump that I had planned.. you can be my beta tester, lol 8-)

[Redskin]

Hey guys,

I purchased a Tbed 1700+ JUIGB 0251. Not too bad I think only on liquid cooling but with an open window and a cold winter in germany..

[kingskawn]

Is this cpu good enough to overclock well?

http://www14.brinkster.com/goudenlijst/DSCF0005.jpg



:rolleyes:

[N8]

Redskin,
Welcome to Xtreme & very nice chip/OC :)

kingskawn,
That stepping is not bad at all, but there are surely better ;)

As far as that new JIUHB I got, I didn't have time to try it last night. Hopefully I will have some time to do so tonight. Just been busy times :D

[Redskin]

I think JIUHB is better to overclock. My JIUGB ist very well but it's difficult to fÃ:banana:nd a goog cpu of this stepping. You need luck..

[berkut]

Hello everybody :D

Today i've bought all the needed parts for my phase change chiller besides the low pressure elastic line. The list of parts contains:

-1L of mineral oil
-Manometer station
-Sight glass with moisture indicator
-Low side mechanical filter
-High side filter (de-acider, anti moisture, something reeaaallyyy handfull)
-13.4kg bottle of R22
-Tools for flaring, swagging and bending pipes.

And something very interesting for you all phase change maniacs: a ALCO tzr with a 00X nozzle (or how you call it). It operates at 210W @ -40C and @ -45C its 180W so its ideal for all you guys. Its also very small and handy.

The only part i dont have is a low side hose and few copper pipes to make a subchiller... project started :D

[Diablo II]

Good project man :toast:

In these days i`m going to test about 20-30 JIUHB 0302 cpus to see what are the best. Of course i`ll choose the best for me :D

[STEvil]

oooh, my mail finally came in 8-)

[berkut]

over here in poland these chips o/c veerryyy pourly comparing to 0251...

[NoOne]

green like mine :)

[DuraN]

But thats a JIUHB..

GL with that chip m8, if you hit 2Ghz its still a $50 chip :D

[morphling1]

Those JIUHB 0302 looks like they only come in green flavour :)
They look like the can hit between 2.3 and 2.4 GHz maybe a little more depends cooling and voltage.
Anyway they are definetly in majority now compared to only few 0251,52 JIUHBs , try it soon STEvil :D

[GiJane]

Originally posted by STEvil
oooh, my mail finally came in 8-)

My bf recieved his yesterday. Same stepping 0302XPCW. It only does 2400mhz@2.15v on water. Maybe a bit of burning in would help perhaps?!?

btw, morpling, awesome overclock :)

[DuraN]

Only 2400!? As i said before, thats a $50 chip!! My 2100+ does that, but at 1.9v though :D

[STEvil]

Results by 12th on air with 8K3A+

8-)

Little limited by ram, though.. trader backed out and im stuck with the PC2100 still.. hope it will pull 166/170 with some voltage.. 8-)

[RedNacz]

Because am kind of new here I would like to start whit some congrats…
:toast:
Congratulations morphling1 & N8 on job well don. OC more and you will go to HELL for sure.
:D
Now, for my statement. I’m buying a new MB soon and I would like to know from you which one is the best. 8K3A or the New 8RDA+.
:confused:
I will be sitting on Air for about 6-8 weeks but then… WC HIRE I COME!!!
;)
Any advise on this? I just can’t make up my mind on this by my self.
:confused:
OOO almost forgot. I just bought a new 1700+, knowing that I live in Poland where it’s HARD to buy something good and brand, I found a guy who bought this baby in Maroko and smuggled it to the country. Can’t wait to crack that sucker up.:banana:

[STEvil]

8rda will be faster, but I am still wary of the nF2 chipset myself..

I would have gotten one if there werent so many problems.. so I got the 8K3A+... and had a few $$ spare change 8-)

Im gonna try and break 10k with that old 8500LE this weekend.. if I can get the old SDRAM mobo past 1800mhz.. 8-/ Darn thing freaks out past 1666mhz with palominos cause it cant handle the current draw 8-/

Then I switch to the 8K3A+ 8-)

[berkut]

make mod to suplyy more current to the mosfets, its very easy if you have an aux swich, it will suck a little more power out of them, add also sinks to those mosfets

when i had an a7v133 it helped very much

[morphling1]

Originally posted by RedNacz
Because am kind of new here I would like to start whit some congrats…
:toast:
Congratulations morphling1 & N8 on job well don. OC more and you will go to HELL for sure.
:D
Now, for my statement. I’m buying a new MB soon and I would like to know from you which one is the best. 8K3A or the New 8RDA+.
:confused:
I will be sitting on Air for about 6-8 weeks but then… WC HIRE I COME!!!
;)
Any advise on this? I just can’t make up my mind on this by my self.
:confused:
OOO almost forgot. I just bought a new 1700+, knowing that I live in Poland where it’s HARD to buy something good and brand, I found a guy who bought this baby in Maroko and smuggled it to the country. Can’t wait to crack that sucker up.:banana:

Thanks
Currently 8RDA+ is definetly one of the best mobos, not that 8K3A isn't good, but the nforce2 just has too many pluses to ignore.

Oh yeah to you and GiJane, Welcome to xtreme :toast:

[Jones83]

I can't get my JIUHB Prime95 stable @ 2 GHz, aircooling :(

Not-so-heavy programs like Pifast can loop @ 2100, 1.85V. But not Prime => Seems I have to buy some watercooling stuff. Maybe 2.0V would stablize this one @ 2100.

[tediber]

got my JIUHB0302 stable running at 2.376ghz 198*12 ..... at 2.1vcore volts ...... i finally decided to ignore bios temps as from the "feel" of the copperblock and water temps ... no way is it running at 60 to 70C .... and my copperblock is bolted so tight (i pity my mobo though) ..... and tried it it ran perfectly fine for several hours ran 3dmark sandra burn and played games for hours .... everything went okay =) ....... 1 thing did bother me is the voltages were already way off coz of the high vcore .... my +5V was 4.6 my +12V was 12.7v ...... but this generic PSU didn't crap out at all =) ............ i tried using MBM 5 winbond 2N---- temps were 20C lower ..... a bit too low ?? seems i can't really trust MBM 5 or USDM to give accurate temps ......

[morphling1]

Nice oc. I see you got 8k3a like me, yes temps here are totaly off with tbred (I say more than 15°C rather close to 20°C) and the problem is not in software because at least in mbm you can use offset. But the temps are showing wrong even in bios pc health, so no solution here, only if some bios version would disable on die diode reading and just use socket thermistor instead.

[tediber]

morphling1 , i bought another generic 300w PSU .... and am planning to use both 300w PSU ...... 1 dedicated to the motherboard and the other one to the rest of the system ..... coz past 2.0 Vcore the voltages are way off the mark ..... would this help bring up voltages ...... i guess my mobo is a bit loaded .... GF4 and a SCSI RAID card is heavy burden on the PSU ...... i discarded the stock FAN of the GF4 and just placed a slab of copper then made a 3x60mm fans fitted into PCI slot 1 to cool it off directly connected to the PSU .... this helped a bit as the fans aren't sucking juice off the GF4 card or thru the mobo

[LikwidKool]

my jiuhb 0302 (brown) has gotten to 2187 at 1.75 volts. It did 2004 at 1.6 with ease. All prime/FAH verified overnight. Just got it along with the 8RDA+ and TwinMos so I have been taking it slow while I burn in. I should know in a day or so where the ceiling is on this puppy. I have to figure out why I keep getting a no ram beep on post after 180 fsb so it could be longer. Hope not though.

BTW this is on air.

[Dimas]

my 1700+ thoro "green" 0302 JIUHB @2,15 v with -10°C water
http://utenti.lycos.it/dimasweb/2535arit.JPG
bye

[Diablo II]

Really good result Dimas!

I think that with an 8rda that will grew up considering that your videocard can-t afford that fsb as you said to me last week...

[RedNacz]

it's all in the ram.:cool:

[RedNacz]

My CPU just arived. :(

I'm in deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep §§§§.

Just look.

How bed is it doc?:confused:

[Penti]

Originally posted by morphling1
Thanks
Currently 8RDA+ is definetly one of the best mobos, not that 8K3A isn't good, but the nforce2 just has too many pluses to ignore.

Oh yeah to you and GiJane, Welcome to xtreme :toast:
ya and nforce2 have also many cons..
You wont get any good results with it, without all the modding(vcore fix, vddmod and cooling on the mosfets and voltageregulator)

If you will by the board i hope u get a good one.

[morphling1]

Hehe, that's understandable, the minute I come home with mobo it will go under soldering iron :D Cooling will be taken care off too.

[Penti]

morphling1 okay =) i will mod my in the weekend. Becuse i cant run lÃ:banana:ke this. Cant do over 190fsb or run 1.9V vcore. Unmodded this board realy sucks so hard that a 8k3a+ does much better =)
but even do i cant run high vcore i got my lite aiuga to post a wcpuid screen at 2147Mhz.

[NoOne]

where is the extreme overclocks with this toys?

[Diablo II]

my 0302 JIUHB runs stable at 2310 mhz at 1.85V

[RedNacz]

256MB PC2700 (SAMSUNG) (M368L3223-CB3)
256MB PC3200 (SAMSUNG) (no-name)
256MB PC2700 (KINGSTON)(KVR333X64C25)

Witch one?

I need help on this. ASAP!

Tomorrow am going shopping and I need to know for what exactly.:confused:

[morphling1]

If the first Sammy is rev C. chips (K4H560838C - TCB3) it will be very good. rev D are bad.
Sammy pc3200 are nothing special.
Kingston if it got BH-6 chips I would take that one. Then Sammy original module with rev. C chips

[RedNacz]

THX. I didn't get all of it but im preety sury that you would pic the sammy.

:p

[KaKa]

JEEZ!!! just saw 1700+ AIUCB :eek:

gonna get one... along with my sammy 333 CLT-CB3 :)

[morphling1]

Wow now that's interesting 1700+ that start with an A, so AIUHB should also start popping out, I gotta be on allert :D

[ztop]

this is mi 1700 thoro b....jiuhb 0252
http://digilander.libero.it/kiashan75/2699.JPG

[morphling1]

Wow insane, this one is in my league :D What you use for cooling ?

[ztop]

wb...and h20.....

[knaSen]

I have a week 3 cpu..

numbers:
AXDA1700DUT3C 9402837240109
JIUHB 0303XPMW

is this any good for oc? if anyone knows..

[tediber]

anybody got an XP1800+ t-bred B yet ??? they're starting to pop out here i think a JIUCB0251 ...... but i'm still trying to sell my XP1700+ T-bred A ...... i'll probably go for an XP1800+ T-bred B

[N8]

knaSen,
Welcome to Xtreme :)
Test it & let us know ;)

tediber,
I don't see the point in paying the extra $ for how well the 1700's do :D

[Hognert]

Got a 0302 JIUHB folding at 2490MHz 2,2V as we speak. Pretty sure it will do just over 2,5GHz at this voltage with water at 25+C. Booted up fine at 2,6GHz with colder water the first thing it did.

[N8]

Excellent! My new pump is here(broke old one) Should be back on water by end of week ;)

[STEvil]

Results for my JIUHB 0302 XPCW 9...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9000&pagenumber=3

Need better ram.. 8-/

[Craig]

What kind of new pump are you getting N8?

[Craig]

Ztop,

Care to share what your water cooling set up consists of?

ONe heck of a OC ya have there.

[BrainStorm]

Originally posted by N8
Excellent! My new pump is here(broke old one) Should be back on water by end of week ;)

N8, LTNS...where ya been?

[ztop]

Originally posted by Craig
What kind of new pump are you getting N8?


cpu and north.....whith a wb....h20 4°......

[Cathar]

Well, here's what I was able to get my XP2100+ to with water-cooling. Not stable though, but it just represents a high point that many people like to see.

http://www.employees.org/~slf/images/2766.jpg

That's an XP2100+ 0301, using my White Water CPU water-block cooled by a large dual fan radiator.

[spaceboy]

a little 2100+ test under plain watercooling @2.1v

http://digilander.libero.it/spaceboyz/2796.jpg

it did 3D at 2750Mhz

[ztop]

azz.....è tuo??

[morphling1]

Hehe Spaceboy, I love your clean system, you just need to get rid of that clock in systray and you're set :D

[spaceboy]

Originally posted by morphling1
Hehe Spaceboy, I love your clean system, you just need to get rid of that clock in systray and you're set :D


:D

u were right 'bout 3D score ;)

i'll showe later

See ya in msn ;)

[morphling1]

Hehe, I know I was. Btw. I'll begin game of catchup today, I got 8RDA too :D

http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/8rda/A3.jpg
A3 ready to rock&roll :D

[spaceboy]

leave one day please :D

http://digilander.libero.it/spaceboyz/compare1.jpg

[morphling1]

WOOOHOOOOOOOOO, insane score there Spaceboy, now you realy set the bar very high :D
So this is No.1 overall 4200 score, incredible work m8 :toast:

[Hognert]

Spaceboy that is simply amazing! :toast: Not only 18k but well over it :D :D ... Im 1 click from ordering a 8RDA now because of this.. Thought I should wait for the nf7 rev1.2 but I cant control myself when I see results like that ;).

edit: Whats your card clocks btw?

[Cathar]

Originally posted by Hognert
Spaceboy that is simply amazing! :toast: Not only 18k but well over it :D :D ... Im 1 click from ordering a 8RDA now because of this.. Thought I should wait for the nf7 rev1.2 but I cant control myself when I see results like that ;).

edit: Whats your card clocks btw?

Yes, that score is amazing.

Plain water-cooled eh? Not sitting on the balcony on a cold winter's night by any chance? That has got to be the singular highest water-cooling overclock of an XP2100+, and the only ones I know of that are close that are water-cooled were chilling the water to get that far.

As for the GPU speed, also incredible. Just by looking at the Nature score it'd have to be touching on the 380MHz core-speed mark at the very least, and the memory would have to be well over 700MHz, which would also make that one of the most incredibly overclockable Ti4200's on the planet as well.

Such amazing luck.

[morphling1]

Cathar, watercooling and voltmod on 4200 with chilled water can get to 370/700+ in most cases. I've done it with my el-cheapo 4200 64 MB oem Leadtek card. Those better 4200 can get even higher at least on ddr, gpu is pretty much maxed up at ~375 (well at least Riva tuner is :D)

[knaSen]

Originally posted by N8
knaSen,
Welcome to Xtreme :)
Test it & let us know ;)



thanx mate ;)
I sure will.. I will try it first in my shuttle when it arrives, and at a friends place.. he has watercooling so he will probably get higher than me :D

[spaceboy]

Originally posted by Cathar
Yes, that score is amazing.

Plain water-cooled eh? Not sitting on the balcony on a cold winter's night by any chance? That has got to be the singular highest water-cooling overclock of an XP2100+, and the only ones I know of that are close that are water-cooled were chilling the water to get that far.




u got it :)
i don't speak english very well so. i thought plain watercololing was a correct description : i meant there wasn't any tec on the cpu but just a Waterblock an some very very cold water ;) How do u call it ?





Originally posted by Cathar
Yes, that score is amazing.


As for the GPU speed, also incredible. Just by looking at the Nature score it'd have to be touching on the 380MHz core-speed mark at the very least, and the memory would have to be well over 700MHz, which would also make that one of the most incredibly overclockable Ti4200's on the planet as well.

Such amazing luck.


Yes the card was overclocked to 376-780

:D




Thanks guys ;)

W AMD :toast:

[RedNacz]

Can someone pleas advise me on this.

I wont to buy a new MB and DDR but i have just enough money for the:

Shuttle AK39N and 512 Samy RAM DDR333

or

EPOX 8RDA+ and 256 Kinston DDR333


:confused:

I have no idea which one would be the best pic.

[morphling1]

I would go with second choice, and buy another 256Mb a little later when you can.
I just love this Epox mobo.


N8, where are you ?

[N8]

I'm here I'm here sorry, got some catching up to do in this thread :D

We got snowed in w/ 30+ inches of snow over the weekend so it was a bit hectic...not much time to be on PC.

Did have time to test that 2nd JIUHB 0302 however & it hit only 2388MHz max @ 2.15v on air. Not bad at all but not great of course :D

BBL, got to read some more of this thread ;)

[N8]

Originally posted by Craig
What kind of new pump are you getting N8?
Another VIA Aqua 1300...broke the housing on my old one, oopsie :D

Originally posted by BrainStorm
N8, LTNS...where ya been?
Dam busy! & not able to get on the forums much with the server problems...tho it seems to be ok this morning, & the server problems are being worked on!

Prolly get my watercooling hooked back up this week ;)

[BrainStorm]

Originally posted by N8
Dam busy! & not able to get on the forums much with the server problems...tho it seems to be ok this morning, & the server problems are being worked on!

Prolly get my watercooling hooked back up this week ;)

Well, good to see ya again. Water cooling, eh? I guess I might just have to try that out sometime, but I'm still a bit adverse to the idea of water in my case. ;) Maybe I'll outgrow my hydrophobia someday. :D

[berkut]

ive got to make a waterblock, itl be based on morplings design with few modifications

sadly my phase change chiller has some big problems, the elastic freon hoses LEAK

but the temps were fine, -33C is a nice temp =)

hmmmm... summing up this topic, which athlon xp1700+ is currently the best ?