X1800XT 810/940 watercooled [Archive]

SIOUX

11-24-2005, 02:54 PM

Update with a nature run in 01 with 1ghz on the mem

I disided to make a new thread, course we solved som problems, and i did some more benching:) the other thread turned out to be more like a "helping" thread:) good help that is......thanks "Atomicpineapple" :)

I was able to push the voltage to 1.58 messured with a DMM. this is max for atitool:)

I was able to bench at 823/1000 as max for today.

The card still have lot more in it. max temp under full load at 1.58 was 23 degrees:) water was 3 degrees warm.

Here are some screenies, and some compare links:)

2k1=44514 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8809606 )

2k3=22142 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4428131 )

2k5=12003 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1496426 )

flisko

11-24-2005, 03:11 PM

are u using atitool or overcloker.itried today and reach 750 on gpu on 1,4v.

SIOUX

11-24-2005, 03:36 PM

are u using atitool or overcloker.itried today and reach 750 on gpu on 1,4v.

Ati tool for volts, and oc tool for clocks:)

Dynasty

11-24-2005, 03:42 PM

very nice clks with the extra voltage SIOUX :toast:

I been reading that other thread about oc and ati tools issues.
Going to give my card another go on water this time.

SIOUX

11-24-2005, 03:45 PM

very nice clks with the extra voltage SIOUX :toast:

I been reading that other thread about oc and ati tools issues.
Going to give my card another go on water this time.

Thanks:) i still need to find out how to use ati tools for clocks, course oc tool mess with the timings on mem. i had it working one time, and i score so much higher FPS at lower clocks:)

HousERaT

11-24-2005, 03:52 PM

good job Sioux..... I've been following your progress for a while now and glad to see people are finally getting these cards to overclock and overvolt. Time to take it up a notch.

perkam

11-24-2005, 03:52 PM

Is 3.3ghz all the FX will do on water ?? ... cos I think you're cpu limited for those clocks. BTW congrats on breaking 1800mhz mem on water :woot:

Shoot for 12k 05 :D

Perkam

SIOUX

11-24-2005, 03:54 PM

good job Sioux..... I've been following your progress for a while now and glad to see people are finally getting these cards to overclock and overvolt. Time to take it up a notch.

Thanks:) we gonna through the card under a vapo soon.

Dynasty

11-24-2005, 03:57 PM

Thanks:) we gonna through the card under a vapo soon.

Well hope your card responds better under phase then mine did.

[XC]Atomicpineapple

11-24-2005, 03:58 PM

Well heres my results, totally CPU limited by my 2.7GHz X2 3800+ card cooled by cheapo water, zalman RAMsinks on the mem.

10492 in 05 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1480327
20066 in 03 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4425627

card at 790MHz 1.4V Core 1.8GHz 2.1V Mem

SIOUX

11-24-2005, 04:07 PM

Is 3.3ghz all the FX will do on water ?? ... cos I think you're cpu limited for those clocks. BTW congrats on breaking 1800mhz mem on water :woot:

Shoot for 12k 05 :D

Perkam

no...it does 3374mhz max benchstable, and 3580mhz on a Vapo LS:)

1800 mem is on air stock volts, with a fan blowing on them:)

perkam

11-24-2005, 04:15 PM

So core on water and mem on air ? ... makes sense...but with a higher core comes room for higher memory ;) So indirectly, the water cooling DOES help the mem ;)

Perkam

SaFrOuT

11-24-2005, 04:18 PM

omg a 2.7GHz X@ is a bottleneck

what shoudl we buy now :S

anyway cool scores dude

SIOUX

11-24-2005, 04:19 PM

So core on water and mem on air ? ... makes sense...but with a higher core comes room for higher memory ;) So indirectly, the water cooling DOES help the mem ;)

Perkam

yes..core on water, and mem on air:)

[XC]Atomicpineapple

11-24-2005, 04:36 PM

omg a 2.7GHz X@ is a bottleneck

what shoudl we buy now :S

anyway cool scores dude

Its a massive bottleneck, had to really push the card to get 20k in 03 due to the lack of CPU power, if my CPU had another 100MHz in it I'd have made 20k at much lower card clocks. And what are we supposed to buy now? Um, an FX-57 on phase would be nice, or a wicked clocking FX60 :D

flisko

11-24-2005, 11:36 PM

atomic u have same score like me ,i got 10469 points http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1480124 :D :D

AndreYang

11-25-2005, 12:06 AM

good...... :woot:

Mayk-Freak

11-25-2005, 12:18 AM

very nice score! :clap:

Hicks

11-25-2005, 06:11 AM

:) Very nice clocks!!!!!!!

perkam

11-25-2005, 06:14 AM

atomic u have same score like me ,i got 10469 points http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1480124 :D :D Are those clocks air ???!!!

Perkam

RickCain

11-25-2005, 07:30 AM

What was your max overclock before you got the core to 1.58? I have been stuck at a low overclock on my BBA X1800XT.

SIOUX

11-25-2005, 07:46 AM

What was your max overclock before you got the core to 1.58? I have been stuck at a low overclock on my BBA X1800XT.

My max oc with stock volts is 750 on the core:)

RistoEe

11-25-2005, 08:26 AM

Wich block you have on your card?

And nice clocks :toast: ...Still waiting for my card :stick:

SIOUX

11-25-2005, 08:36 AM

Wich block you have on your card?

And nice clocks :toast: ...Still waiting for my card :stick:

I modded an old Asetek waterblock, so it fits on the card:)

wkmgt

11-25-2005, 09:02 AM

Well Done Sioux!! I've used an Asetek CPU block for GPU. It did a nice job.....

M.Beier

11-25-2005, 09:22 AM

Damn thats some badass results :)

Sioux, plz tell me the magic @ MSN - your drago low is 150fps higher than mine :|

perry_78

11-25-2005, 09:26 AM

Ironically enought the Asetek Antarctica is indeed a good GPU block :p:

Hejså oc.dk medlemmer :D

Overmelted

11-25-2005, 09:40 AM

great sioux!!! :banana: :toast: :banana:

SIOUX

11-25-2005, 05:58 PM

Well...i got some updates. i switched to win2k for 05 and 03, course i can use ati tool there:)

2k1=44231 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8803763 )

2k3=22142 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4428131 )

2k5=11874 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1484241 )

M.Beier

11-25-2005, 06:09 PM

SIOUX, det er alt for vildt, jeg glemte at høre dig om en dato, hvornår er planen at det går løs?

One last thing, SIOUX, please keep us updated at the "central", ocinfo ;)
I'm looking forward to seeing what speeds you will acheive on that CPU with a bit better cooling :)
If you got some sparetime, I'll love to do a CPU-depending test challenge with you once we both got some better cooling (SPI, PiFast, E-calc etc. :))

RistoEe

11-25-2005, 06:32 PM

I modded an old Asetek waterblock, so it fits on the card:)

Sounds interesting :comp10: U got any pics of it?

And congrats abput new scores... I can't wait to get my hands on one of these :slobber:

flisko

11-25-2005, 10:38 PM

SIUX what core u have this is pic of my core,i dont have time too test it completly, http://img506.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200511201021362xq.jpg , and one more question,why ati have on 520 core 321millions and g70 have only 302 millions transistors but nvidia have 24 pipes ati only 16,here something is wrong.

EmineM

11-26-2005, 08:30 AM

SIOUX whats the new driver u are using that at WHQL FM approved?

SIOUX

11-26-2005, 09:02 AM

Sounds interesting :comp10: U got any pics of it?

And congrats abput new scores... I can't wait to get my hands on one of these :slobber:

sorry..no pics at the moment. but its very simple. i just drilled some extra holes that fits in the PVC plate:)

Pisu87

11-26-2005, 11:01 AM

and one more question,why ati have on 520 core 321millions and g70 have only 302 millions transistors but nvidia have 24 pipes ati only 16,here something is wrong.
A big number of transistors inside R520 is used for the new ring-bus memory controller instead of the crossbar classic one.

nachthymnen

11-26-2005, 11:21 AM

SIOUX

11-26-2005, 11:36 AM

Thanks guys:) i´m hoping that with some extra volts on the mem, i can do a bench at 1ghz . with 955 stock volts it should be posible. going for 12k 05 watercooled:)

this card is a nice clocker i think. i see Macci getting 850/955 on DICE. i benched my card yesterday at 823/960 1.6v on water in 01, so hoping to see some big numbers with some better cooling:)

biohead

11-26-2005, 01:32 PM

that's one killer card you got there sioux, keep us posted :toast:

Dynasty

11-26-2005, 01:49 PM

Really nice scores SIOUX :toast:

Your 05 score looks strong, I would imagine with your fx 57 @ over 3.5, should let you break 12K.

M.Beier

11-26-2005, 01:53 PM

Really nice scores SIOUX :toast:

Your 05 score looks strong, I would imagine with your fx 57 @ over 3.5, should let you break 12K.

I belive thats not gonna happen, the CPU runs 3,6ghz on VapoLS :)
However, SIOUX is a true master of tweaking, so I bet he's gonna pull out some tweaks that will do another 50 marks, and then colder weather outside will do the rest ;)

SIOUX, once again, looking forward seeing the final 01SE score, I got a idea kinc & kingpin will wetten their pants once your done benching ;)

SIOUX

11-26-2005, 11:05 PM

Really nice scores SIOUX :toast:

Your 05 score looks strong, I would imagine with your fx 57 @ over 3.5, should let you break 12K.

Thanks guys:)

i think i can brake 12k with this cpu speed. still have some gfx clocks left. no extra volts on mem yet:)

Shadowmage

11-27-2005, 12:25 AM

A big number of transistors inside R520 is used for the new ring-bus memory controller instead of the crossbar classic one.

Ring-bus controller doesn't take as many transistors as one might think. The ultra-threading dispacher and dynamic branching implementation are probably the main reasons.

Pisu87

11-27-2005, 02:49 AM

Ring-bus controller doesn't take as many transistors as one might think. The ultra-threading dispacher and dynamic branching implementation are probably the main reasons.
Yeah that too, but the memory controller is the biggest unit in the core: B3D (http://www.beyond3d.com/reviews/ati/r520/index.php?p=09)

dvothecc

11-28-2005, 06:17 AM

ugp

11-28-2005, 08:09 AM

Very nice man!

speed bump

11-28-2005, 08:39 AM

Nice job man might be time to play with throwing ice in the water while benching and other such cold bug work arounds.

SIOUX

11-28-2005, 09:24 AM

SIOUX, this is a bit off topic but I was wondering if you have any bugs with the card? Can you set your max clocks and be stable right away or do you have to wait for the card to warm up?

Oh and real nice clocks btw :toast:

No..the card dont need a warm up period:) it plays games fine at 800/900 1.45v, and benches everytime at 819/955 :)

[XC]Atomicpineapple

11-28-2005, 10:04 AM

Thats weird SIOUX, it looks like mine does need a warm up period, although maybe I just didnt give it enough volts to begin with, will have to check further though. Also I just remembered FUGGER posting about raising PCI-E freq with his X1800XL, just tried it on DFI NF4 Ultra and my XT, looks like it'll give performance increases too, with no stability loss (at 115MHz anyway), cant give any numbers yet but its definitely faster.

[XC]Atomicpineapple

11-28-2005, 10:37 AM

Well it looks liek the extra 15MHz PCI-E frequency is worth about 50 points in 3d03 with stock clocks, SIOUX does indeed have a good card, mine isnt even bench stable at 800MHZ 1.5V core looks like max for those volts is about 770 ish.

dvothecc

11-28-2005, 11:23 AM

No..the card dont need a warm up period:) it plays games fine at 800/900 1.45v, and benches everytime at 819/955 :)

Thanks for the feedback, I just might be picking up one of these today. ;) Unfortunatly my XL seems to have unpredictable mood swings. :confused:

SIOUX

11-28-2005, 05:29 PM

well...I finaly broke 12k in 05 watercooled :)

12003 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1496426 )

G H Z

11-28-2005, 06:02 PM

Gem of a card SIOUX, nice one :toast:

Geforce4ti4200

11-28-2005, 06:08 PM

VERY nice score!

macci

11-28-2005, 07:03 PM

Congrats! Very nicely done with watercooled card, what Vgpu were you useing and what card speeds for 12k?

SIOUX

11-28-2005, 07:06 PM

Congrats! Very nicely done with watercooled card, what Vgpu were you useing and what card speeds for 12k?

Thanks:) I used 1.58v for core and stock volts for mem( still cant get the mem volt too work) :)

The card was clocked at 823/963 :)

G H Z

11-28-2005, 07:13 PM

Hi macci,

Any chance you have tested for cold bug on newer (non-press) drivers? I would very much like to hear about this :)

macci

11-28-2005, 07:13 PM

I've used default volts on mem, actually even lowered them a bit for optimal clocks..mem cooling is vital ;)

SIOUX

11-28-2005, 07:19 PM

I've used default volts on mem, actually even lowered them a bit for optimal clocks..mem cooling is vital ;)

yes..i noticed that the mem gets extremly hot. got a vantec tornado blowing at them:) since i cant get the voltage to work for mem, i cant say if it would better or worse to raise the volt. but i will give less volt a go for sure..thanks:) DMM reads 1.6v when set to 1.58 by the way....

macci

11-28-2005, 07:45 PM

GHZ, haven't tested but will give it a go one of these days.

flisko

11-29-2005, 01:43 AM

some bench today and got 11004 :D :D in 3d05 ,realy hard too get ,i think i need new procesor. http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1497472 and 20891 in 03 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4436247

flopper

11-29-2005, 01:51 AM

12k impressive on watercooling.

It be nice to test to clock when I get a card heh...

ugp

11-29-2005, 05:04 PM

What is a safe voltage on the core for Stock Air Cooler?

eva2000

11-29-2005, 05:43 PM

curious where's actual pictures of the water cooled card ??? get out that digital camera :D

SIOUX

11-29-2005, 05:58 PM

curious where's actual pictures of the water cooled card ??? get out that digital camera :D

sorry..i dont own a digicam. but i will see if i can borrow from a mate :D

Dynasty

11-29-2005, 06:00 PM

well...I finaly broke 12k in 05 watercooled :)

12003 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1496426 )

congrats...great score :toast:

I think I am actually going to start doing some bios work on my X1800XT.
Stock bios is for the birds.

dvothecc

11-29-2005, 06:15 PM

WOW, real nice clocks and scores!! :toast:

I read earlier somewhere that you are using a water chiller? What kind do you have?

SIOUX

11-29-2005, 06:24 PM

WOW, real nice clocks and scores!! :toast:

I read earlier somewhere that you are using a water chiller? What kind do you have?

yes...i have a waterchiller with r134 in. lowest water temp 0 degrees. its ok for now, but gonna get some phase soon. i do have a vapo ls available, that i want to smack on the X1800XT. my FX runs 3570 on the LS:)

the chiller keeps my x1800 at 17 degrees idle, and around 26 load stock volts:)

dvothecc

11-29-2005, 07:12 PM

yes...i have a waterchiller with r134 in. lowest water temp 0 degrees. its ok for now, but gonna get some phase soon. i do have a vapo ls available, that i want to smack on the X1800XT. my FX runs 3570 on the LS:)

the chiller keeps my x1800 at 17 degrees idle, and around 26 load stock volts:)

Nice, do you use Y splitters so the cpu and gpu get the same temp water or do you run them in series cpu then gpu?

SIOUX

11-29-2005, 07:22 PM

Nice, do you use Y splitters so the cpu and gpu get the same temp water or do you run them in series cpu then gpu?

None of the above:) I run 2 separat system with 2 pumps, so they wont heat up eachother. the pumps are mounted outside the cabi. 1 swiftech and 1 asetek L30:)

hitmanx2

11-29-2005, 07:41 PM

some crazy clock there :D

dvothecc

11-30-2005, 06:22 AM

None of the above:) I run 2 separat system with 2 pumps, so they wont heat up eachother. the pumps are mounted outside the cabi. 1 swiftech and 1 asetek L30:)

Nice, would it be possible to see a picture of your setup?

SIOUX

11-30-2005, 06:36 AM

Nice, would it be possible to see a picture of your setup?

I will try to see if i can get a hold of a digicam, course right now i dont own one:)

eva2000

11-30-2005, 07:17 AM

I will try to see if i can get a hold of a digicam, course right now i dont own one:)
Get one :D

Stock heatsink air for me so far

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron146/CAB2E_0540FPMW_1/Hydrocool200/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/704_2BTA/LDT3x/10x/310-282-2.5336-7-14-2222_1.56-1.4-1.6-2.9_3684_dsW4dds1_9N65_16clk_16x7x/X1800XT/3dmark05_749-882_10915_tn.jpg

flisko

11-30-2005, 07:51 AM

Suix i need only a magic number 999 more points to get u,what can i do ,to make beter score. http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1497472

:D

eva2000

11-30-2005, 08:09 AM

probably need another 800+mhz on cpu :)

ugp

11-30-2005, 08:18 AM

Yeah yeah yeah, I will catch up to you eva2000!

SIOUX

11-30-2005, 04:27 PM

got a little 3d01 update:)

and i just ran through nature test with 1ghz on the mem :D (look screenshot)

have to try and run 1ghz all through the test in the weekend:)

44514 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8809606 )

M.Beier

11-30-2005, 04:29 PM

SIOUX, do you run every test at same speed?? - I run some tests at 20-30 mhz @ cpu faster than others...

Car low at 30 mhz more than lobby high... :|

SIOUX

11-30-2005, 04:34 PM

SIOUX, do you run every test at same speed?? - I run some tests at 20-30 mhz @ cpu faster than others...

Car low at 30 mhz more than lobby high... :|

i ran DL-CL-CH-DH with 3355mhz, and LH-N with 3345

G H Z

12-04-2005, 03:44 PM

I think I am actually going to start doing some bios work on my X1800XT.
Stock bios is for the birds.

Hey Dynasty, any luck with that yet?

Hicks

12-04-2005, 05:38 PM

Yeah, is there any way we can flash the BIOS, or do somet,do get rid of the 2d/3d clocks?

I assume all the problems with overclocking these cards with the software availaity atm, is due to the 2d/3d thing, and why Macci clocked his XT fine?

SIOUX

12-04-2005, 06:08 PM

STEvil

12-04-2005, 08:18 PM

Dynasty

12-04-2005, 09:02 PM

@ GHZ, nothing yet. :cool:

Lane-k

12-14-2005, 11:13 AM

kill off atismart and the other ati service (forgot its name - ati hotkey poller?), it fixes the coldbug issue and might force the card into just 2d or just 3d mode as well.. unsure about that though.

It's exactly what i have try do, but with a stange result: i can use the 3D clock for OC with the Overclocker tool with or without disable this service, ( so overdrive work in CCC).
but when i disable the service, the 3D clock work allways for OC and the 2D clock don't give me any gain.. problem i can't increase the voltage, cause ATI-Tool do this for the 2Dclock.. I have try increase the 2D clock, the result of bench is exactly the same i have with the 3d clock at stock... I must have miss something.. ( I use Overclocker tool X1K, ATI-Tool 25.10b.)
Problem, after 722Mhz on core i need increase voltage.

And what is the symptom ( on display) of the cold bug?

loc.o

12-14-2005, 11:47 AM

What i use is:

- ATItool 1.24b9
- OC utility
- Cat 5.11

Disable ATI hotkey poller AND ATI smart in services and reboot. Use atitool for voltage adjustments only, dont use it for OC. Set your clocks in 2D tab in OC utility. Make sure that if you change core in the utility you also set mem again. After setting core (and mem) in the 2D tab check speeds in atitool to make sure its set.

Lane-k

12-14-2005, 03:49 PM

thanks, i have use all other version and Cat 5.12
is your Oc utility look like this?http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/4458/sanstitre5gn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Sry, i have use SLI and Nvidia since my 9700pro...

STEvil

12-14-2005, 08:00 PM

need to knock out ati????.exe... my original post is incorrect ;)

ugp

12-14-2005, 08:25 PM

The new RivaTuner does work nicely for monitoring...

Core Voltage
Core Clock
Memory Clock
Voltage Regulator Current (Amp)

No need for configuration. Just install it. Clocks do not work though. I tried even with the ATI Services disabled and it still resets the clocks back to the 2D when entering 3D for some reason.

Lane-k

12-15-2005, 02:01 PM

Ok i have see what the problem reading the post of Riva by UGP.
I was not set the voltage of clock enough high, by default it's 1.3V for 2D and it jump to 1.4V when entering 3D... ATI tool report 1.275V, i have forget set the voltage higher for clock it ... so it have launch at 1.275V the bench, so crash or artefact.. he he!!!.

I have see the mosffet is around 46°C, i was thinking pehraps use the ALphacool watercool, its use separate cooler for each memory with 3/5mm tubing and a distributor, what do you think is it good too adition the mosffets (voltage regulator)? or there's no issue known when OC with this.

Gnome

12-15-2005, 02:25 PM

Lane-k

12-15-2005, 02:32 PM

ok, thanks,..

It seems this X1800XT like high voltage on memory i was having "Freeze" during first 3D'05bench when the memory is at more of 819Mhz, after increase the voltage of memory, test pass.

Edit:

I haveone ask about the A read in Riva tuner, normally it's 8.18, after OC and during bench, i see it jump at more of 20A...
Tell me it's not taken on the 12V rails fully.!!??? Is this can be the thing can give me crash during bench?.. I have 40A on 2x 12V rails, but the 3700+ is a lot OC and i have many thing using the 12V rails ( around 14Fans 120mm, on the radiators + case, leds etc...)

ugp

12-28-2005, 08:16 AM

for the power regulators, take a cheap heatsink, use dremel...
I ordered my DangerDen x18 WaterBlock and got the HeatBridge as well with it for the Power Regulators.

loc.o

12-28-2005, 04:20 PM

I cannot get core over 770 with OC-tool. It wil let me set it but both atitool and OC-tool will report 770 after its saved. Tried AQ03 and 3D but scores stay same as with 770 set. Mem clocks/volts dont make difference, tried several. Im using cat 5.12, atitool 025b9 and both services disabled. VPU recover is disabled in CCC as wel. Stock hsf and temps are fine (mid 60's load 770/1.475v). Will try diff atitool and cat later but I am curious if someone else has had simular prob.

SIOUX

12-28-2005, 05:47 PM

everybody: try Ati tool beta 11. can be downloaded from Techpowerup.com

I´m now able to clock the card without disabling the services. there are some good corrections for x1800 cards:) the new ati tool swiches between 2d/3d clocks,and disables ati2evxx.

use driver 5.11 or 5.13. 5.12 doesnt seem to work.

ugp

12-28-2005, 06:42 PM

thanks

eva2000

12-28-2005, 07:01 PM

ugp

12-28-2005, 07:11 PM

Does the "Max Clock" part work on Beta 11? Also I assume that it will save voltage settings to profiles as well.

KoukiFC3S

12-28-2005, 08:29 PM

stock voltage for mem is 1.8v correct?

ATI Tool has 2v stock, I will bring it back to 1.8v.

eva2000

12-28-2005, 09:16 PM

stock mem volt is 2.097v or whatever ati tool says as X1800 oc tool displays mem volt incorrectly it is not 1.8v AFAIK

fhpchris

12-28-2005, 09:58 PM

stock voltage for mem is 1.8v correct?

ATI Tool has 2v stock, I will bring it back to 1.8v.

Memmory is rated by samsung @ 2V

1.8 is undervolting it.

KoukiFC3S

12-28-2005, 10:30 PM

thanks, I brought it back up

I swear I read a review that said that it was run at 1.8v, even tho it was rated for 2.

SIOUX

12-29-2005, 12:11 AM

does ATI Tool beta 11 still work if those services are already disabled ?

yes sir......it does here:)

fhpchris

12-29-2005, 12:55 AM

thanks, I brought it back up

I swear I read a review that said that it was run at 1.8v, even tho it was rated for 2.

You did. That is correct!

ugp

12-29-2005, 04:34 AM

SIOUX

12-29-2005, 05:16 AM

ATITool does not work with the 3D Detection for me. Does anyone else have this problem at all?

And also ATITool reads voltage incorrect slighty... it is off by 0.025 according to RivaTuner.

Stock voltage on core is v1.300 not v1.375.

it will still show up as 600/700 stock (2d clocks) but when you move the sliders to oc it will switch to 3d, but still be showen as 2d

macci

12-29-2005, 07:01 AM

ATI Tool reads the voltage from the card. If it says 2V then the card is running at 2V by default.

ugp

12-29-2005, 09:10 AM

it will still show up as 600/700 stock (2d clocks) but when you move the sliders to oc it will switch to 3d, but still be showen as 2d
So when I set clock speeds it isn't setting it right then...? It sets it when I enter 3D Interfaces correct?

SIOUX

12-29-2005, 09:16 AM

So when I set clock speeds it isn't setting it right then...? It sets it when I enter 3D Interfaces correct?

The 2d clocks turn to 3d when entering 3d yes:)

ugp

12-29-2005, 09:24 AM

SIOUX

12-29-2005, 10:30 AM

Oh ok, Thanks. I will have to play with it alittle bit.

Do you guys still get the same overclocks using ATITool Vs. Overclocker?

Just wondering which to use when I get the card under its WaterBlock.

well..thats the strange thing here. i sudenly need a little xtra volt just to run 700/800, but my max OC is still the same 823/1000 hehe..:D

eva2000

12-29-2005, 12:23 PM

well..thats the strange thing here. i sudenly need a little xtra volt just to run 700/800, but my max OC is still the same 823/1000 hehe..:D
for ati tool beta 11 you mean vs beta 10 ?

SIOUX

12-29-2005, 12:40 PM

for ati tool beta 11 you mean vs beta 10 ?

I mean ati tool beta 11 and 3d clocks. beta 10 i used 2d clocks:)

ugp

12-29-2005, 02:23 PM

See in Beta 10 Clocks didn't work for me.

Shadowmage

12-29-2005, 02:37 PM

Wait, lemme get this straight... so ATI purposefully undervolts the RAM? For what purpose?

Lane-k

12-29-2005, 07:50 PM

See in Beta 10 Clocks didn't work for me.

With ATI-tool 25.11 it's the 2D clock you up, but it's automatically in use when you open the ATI-Tool, look on message appears when the soft launch.

eva2000

01-04-2006, 05:47 AM

SIOUX i'm coming for you http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1216408&postcount=28 :D

rob[GL]

01-04-2006, 11:02 AM

Why not to use ATi Tool for setting clocks? Why use ATi Tool only for voltage? Does "overclocker" tool do something differently to clocks?

eva2000

01-04-2006, 04:58 PM

still X1800 Oc tool is better for me

i.e. looping ATI Tool beta 11 'show 3d' stress test.

oc'ing using ATI Tool beta 11 max = 762mhz at 1.45v and locks up higher

but using good old method of X1800 Overclocking tool for clocking max i get so far is:

GPU
783mhz at 1.5v
789mhz at 1.525v
796mhz at 1.55v (gpu idle = 46-47C and gpu load = 51-52C)

rob[GL]

01-04-2006, 11:22 PM

When I type in clocks in overclocking tool, it doesn't change. In fact, it drops to 480mhz...

eva2000

01-04-2006, 11:25 PM

you disabled ati services ?

rob[GL]

01-05-2006, 12:01 AM

Yup... services disabled... When I first time ran overclocker, I could change clocks, but past a certain number and the clocks wouldn't actually change... Second time I try overclocker, nothing changes right... ATi Tool 025b11 works good for me though.

CanDostum

01-05-2006, 02:06 PM

I gongratulate you,for your working and benching about x1800xt....

It may runaway my eyes,,,sorry...how much did you give vddc and vddq??

SIOUX

01-05-2006, 02:09 PM

I gongratulate you,for your working and benching about x1800xt....

It may runaway my eyes,,,sorry...how much did you give vddc and vddq??

Me or Eva ??? :)

CanDostum

01-05-2006, 02:19 PM

Me or Eva ??? :)

you:)

SIOUX

01-05-2006, 03:34 PM

you:)

2.034v for both i used:)

SIOUX

01-09-2006, 02:51 PM

Here are some pics of the cooling, that somebody asked for:)

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3277/mach15rs.jpg

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/6671/chiller6jf.jpg

eva2000

01-09-2006, 04:51 PM

woah heavy duty there :)

sky

01-13-2006, 05:38 AM

ok, this might be the ultimate stupid question, but i just have to ask it anyway :)

what did you two (eva & sioux) get on stock cooling with stock volts (1.275/2.0)
as max clocks for gpu & ram via atitool (whatever version?). because i figured
i had the two bummeresque cards ever. one did 637/792 and the other could
only get to 635/757 (maybe 765), both club3d x1800xt 512mb cards... ran in
the same system even...

ugp

01-13-2006, 08:37 AM

Well stock volts is actually v1.300 on the core. I myself can't even remember what I was getting on mine at all...

eva2000

01-14-2006, 01:29 AM

ati tool suxs never used it for oc'ing even 601mhz gpu would give me a blank monitor

you can see my ocs at http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=81585&highlight=X1800XT ended up around 689/797 in CCC and 688/801-830 in X1800 Oc'ing tool. At 1.375v GPU stock volt of mem allows my mem to jump from 830mhz to 882-900mhz