Which x1800XT?

[ugp]

Which version of the x1800XT is overclocking the best? ATIs?

Thanks

[`SippY]

i would get the "his hightech" or the "saphire", but thats just coming from preference

[ugp]

But what I want to know which are overclocking better?

[CrashOv3r1De]

Saphire/BBATI

[perkam]

Don't look now, but there's an brand new X1800XT for $499 @ ewiz with FREE SHIPPING !!! :eek:

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=AT-1800XT&c=pw

Perkam

[iboomalot]

you must watch pricewatch alot Perkam

[perkam]

you must watch pricewatch alot Perkam Random find actually...was searching for which X1800XT brand would be best for UGP... and found the best deal you'll ever see in the next 2-3 months :p:

Perkam

[mikeguava]

Awesome find Perkam! - wonder what warranty these bulk XTs have

[perkam]

The usual...30 days for replacement or refund ;)

Might I suggest the UPS 3 day select shipping for $20.00 if you think its going to get to you a little later than you'd want ;)

Perkam

[ugp]

@Perkam thanks!

I canceled my ZipZoomFly order just in time and I am going to order this one!

[DilTech]

Perkam... You just made my day.

BTW, it's down to $494 now...

If it's there friday when I get my next check(80 hours a week for 2 weeks... Helloooo paycheck!), I'm getting one.

I've said it 50 times now, whoeever shows me a 512mb card for under $500 first gets my money, ATi did it, ATi gets my money. I don't care who wins in 3dmark, I don't do sub-zero cooling, I'll merely be playing games with it...End of story.

THANKS AGAIN PERKAM!

[LexDiamonds]

Wow. I never thought I would find myself saying 500 clams is a "good deal" for a video card... but thats a good deal!

A sign of impending things to come? (XT PE, R580, etc.)

[DilTech]

XT PE is supposidly coming next week...

[Dumo]

Awesome find Perkam! - wonder what warranty these bulk XTs haveAll ATI oems warranty goes to PowerColor USA...

[charlie]

XT PE is supposidly coming next week...

For ATI's sake I hope it's 24p, 675/1750...

C

[LexDiamonds]

For ATI's sake I hope it's 24p, 675/1750...

C


My guess is 16p 750/1800....

A pipe increase isnt currently in the works for ATI. R620 maybe?

[ugp]

That cards people have been using on here which brand where they?

I am making sure I get the right card here... I am actually waiting to order until tomorrow because I want to get some more feedback here.

[LexDiamonds]

That cards people have been using on here which brand where they?

I am making sure I get the right card here... I am actually waiting to order until tomorrow because I want to get some more feedback here.


They are all made by Sapphire anyhow... get whichever is cheapest.

[ugp]

They all have the same HSF on them as well?

[ugp]

I am ordering the HIS Version.

[DilTech]

My guess is 16p 750/1800....

A pipe increase isnt currently in the works for ATI. R620 maybe?

You're thinking wayyyy too high...

Try 16p, 700/1600... Same 1.26ns ram.

[perkam]

If anyone wants Retail Packaging for $545, here's a good deal for you :) : http://www.compuvest.com/Description.jsp;jsessionid=MKC8CEgIzR-HSc2bFq?Search=100134&Title=T&iid=152515

Though I have no idea on the e-tailer, never heard of em.

Perkam

[mR Yellow]

You're thinking wayyyy too high...

Try 16p, 700/1600... Same 1.26ns ram.

Then whats the point?

[perkam]

XTPE confirmed, 9700 05 stock clocks:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=81056

Perkam

[ugp]

That isn't that big of a different than between the two of them...

You can overclock a x1800XT way beyond that.

[perkam]

I know...that'll be one of the downfalls of the XTPE...cant do anything beyond the regular XT + Ocing skills...

So which XT did you finally decide upon, UGP ?? :D Link ? :)

Perkam

[ugp]

I ordered the HIS from NewEgg.. For one reason...I heard a few things about HIS and I have always had good luck with RMAs from NewEgg...I remember while back when I got my 9800XT from them and RMAd it through them they replaced it with a x800Pro. I should have it no later than Monday.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161159

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-161-159-03.JPG

[ugp]

I can't wait to get my hands on it and start overclocking..

*No advertising outside of the classifieds please*

[Hicks]

Nice, though the only real difference is the sticker. Id like to see some non stock cooling solutions, or higher clocks, or somet from different brands.

Ive got a Sapphire XT arriving 2moro!. :)

[perkam]

Ive got a Sapphire XT arriving 2moro! Congrats Hicks :up:

Is it the one from Ewiz ??? (i hope someone orders so that they can share quality/warranty info with others here :) )

Perkam

[Hicks]

Thanks!!!

Like i said in the other thread, not everyone is American! ;)

orderd it from here:

www.chillblast.co.uk quite a popular site, great service.

[goreblast]

Hicks - I got mine from there as well. Anyone know when the Master cards are coming? Got a DFI crossfire mobo waiting for some awesome crossfire action!

[ugp]

i got a SLI board so I can't run crossfire just yet. That would be the next upgrade I do after awhile.

I remember reading something about running 4 DIMMs at 1T timing on that motherboard. So I am keeping an eye out on that.

Also quick questions...the program I see people use to overclock these cards where do I get that from?

[perkam]

NDA expires for x1800 CF cards this year.

Perkam

[ugp]

I got one quick question...what is the best way of going about switching cards out in my system...I am going from nVidia to ATI. So it is a complete switch all together.

[mR Yellow]

Well, if u don't want to format, i recommend using Drivercleaner.
Unistall your display card drivers, reboot into safe mode, run drivercleaner and remove all nVidia display drivers and clean cab files.

Switch off PC and insert new card ;)

[ugp]

With a x1800XT would I see any difference running it in the bottom PCI-e slot at 8x than I would in the top slot at 16x?

[mR Yellow]

With a x1800XT would I see any difference running it in the bottom PCI-e slot at 8x than I would in the top slot at 16x?

U would see a slight drop in performance but not much...about 300pts in 05.
But i don't know about actuall gameplay.

[ugp]

I am just running it on the top slot at 16x

[CrashOv3r1De]

Ordered a BBATI X1800 XT from ZZF along with a RDX200 CF-DR this board is awesome now Oskar fixed its boot issues

[cantankerous]

Ordered a BBATI X1800 XT from ZZF along with a RDX200 CF-DR this board is awesome now Oskar fixed its boot issues

Let us know how your BBATI does crash. I am dumping my X1800XL and picking up a BBATI X1800XT tomorrow afternoon at my local shop as they have 1 put aside for me. I have heard nothing on the BBATI X1800XT cards so am curious to how they fare to the HIS which I am hearing a lot about. I sure hope my card does well and has no issues as I am paying quite a bit for it especially since I just dropped big bucks on the XL version not even 3 full weeks ago. Since you are the only other one to have a BBATI I hope to hear your results so we can compare.

[flisko]

i have BBati and its worked werry wel,i menaged too overclok this card too 840 core and 930 ram,i put waterblock on core,ram only have heatsinks.tomorow put some pictures here,core have at gameplaying around 36-38 degrees.

[SIOUX]

i have BBati and its worked werry wel,i menaged too overclok this card too 840 core and 930 ram,i put waterblock on core,ram only have heatsinks.tomorow put some pictures here,core have at gameplaying around 36-38 degrees.


damn...840 on the core is crazy with just water. wgat is watertemps??? :slobber:

[eva2000]

i have BBati and its worked werry wel,i menaged too overclok this card too 840 core and 930 ram,i put waterblock on core,ram only have heatsinks.tomorow put some pictures here,core have at gameplaying around 36-38 degrees.
what's water and room ambient for that setup ?

how much more core and mem clocks do you get from air to water ?

[flisko]

im gona post pictures today,yes is in room,and when i bench ,i opened door and window to get lower temeperature,at benchin is gpu around 35-39 celsius.840 core is only for bench,i play games at 770-780 core

[cantankerous]

Thanks for the response flisko. Glad to hear of a BBATI doing well. I am picking mine up in the next hour then rushing home to install it. I am going to stick with stock air for now. I have a Zalman Fatality on my X1800XL right now but I really don't think it will do any better than stock so I will just leave it be for now and make sure it runs as should at stock before I start upping it more. One question though. How is the stock HSF attached to the cards ram? I am wondering if they use thick pads or what? I was thinking of pulling it off to apply ceramique on the core as I think it will do better than the stock paste. Anyone care to share their thoughts on this? If there isn't too much of a gap between between the ram chips and the heatsink I was thinking of applying ceramique to to the memory as well. Good idea? Bad idea? I don't plan on straying from AIR so would like to get the best out of it I can. Even if it only drops temps a couple degrees I think it still better than nothing. If anyone cares to share any thoughts on this matter who may already own an XT or is just more knowledgable in general please do share. Thanks.

[loc.o]

Maybe this (http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/fullimage.php?image=2109) helps you.

Got me sapphire X1800XT today, wil be testing it tonight.

[dvothecc]

Thanks for the response flisko. Glad to hear of a BBATI doing well. I am picking mine up in the next hour then rushing home to install it. I am going to stick with stock air for now. I have a Zalman Fatality on my X1800XL right now but I really don't think it will do any better than stock so I will just leave it be for now and make sure it runs as should at stock before I start upping it more. One question though. How is the stock HSF attached to the cards ram? I am wondering if they use thick pads or what? I was thinking of pulling it off to apply ceramique on the core as I think it will do better than the stock paste. Anyone care to share their thoughts on this? If there isn't too much of a gap between between the ram chips and the heatsink I was thinking of applying ceramique to to the memory as well. Good idea? Bad idea? I don't plan on straying from AIR so would like to get the best out of it I can. Even if it only drops temps a couple degrees I think it still better than nothing. If anyone cares to share any thoughts on this matter who may already own an XT or is just more knowledgable in general please do share. Thanks.


The XT's like the XL's have the thick pads between the memory ic's and the heatsink. But I am not sure how big the gap would be once you remove the pads, but its definetly worth a shot if your gonna stay on AIR. Let us know what happens if you try this. Also you dont what to use your Zalman Fatality the XT? I would think it would be better and prolly quieter :)

[deathman20]

Also you dont what to use your Zalman Fatality the XT? I would think it would be better and prolly quieter :)

I've heard the opposite of this. Where ya its quieter but runs warmer.

[Ubermann]

Just got this link from something i signed up for:
http://www.computerhq.com/Sapphire_ATI_Radeon_X1800XT_PCI-E/100134/hardware/partinfo-id-570804.html

Sapphire ATI Radeon X1800XT PCI-E 512MB $528

[cantankerous]

Just installed my BBATI X1800XT today. Man this thing is hot. Mind you I have not ran the fan at 100% due to it being extremely loud and in games I get about 80C steady. That is damn hot. Believe it or not during a 45 loop of 3dmark01 the core got into the 90's!!! I freaked and exited the bench asap. I am worried about my card now due to it getting so hot for that period of time. What is the max these cards can take and do you think having it in the 90's did anything to it? I had no clue these get so hot as my X1800XL with Zalman barely hit 60c full load. Wow.

[ugp]

Mine gets no where near that and I don't believe eva2000 does either clocked at 749 on his core...

[eva2000]

@749/900

GPU: 1.45v
VDD: 2.171v
VDDQ: 2.165v

GPU idles at 42C at 26C room temp or 46C at 30C room temp
GPU load at 66-68C at 26C room temp or 68-70C at 30C room temp

ATI Tool logging reported

[ugp]

My Core still won't stable at v1.450 at 750:(

Memory I can get 900 out of. That is no problem. Nor fair:(

Last resort...

Testing at Stock CPU Speeds.

Stock Memory Speeds on Video Card

And the core at 750. See if it runs fine then?

[ugp]

@eva2000 What Power Supply are you using anyway?

[flisko]

I have also bbati x1800xt and reach core 840 max,but i have waterblock on it,and card is cool.I reach 840 at 1.58v on gpu. http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200512020759175jt.jpg

[ugp]

I have also bbati x1800xt and reach core 840 max,but i have waterblock on it,and card is cool.I reach 840 at 1.58v on gpu. http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200512020759175jt.jpg
Damn that is really nice man!

[eva2000]

@eva2000 What Power Supply are you using anyway?
listed in system specs on my 512MB HIS X1800XT thread ;)

510W PC Powercooling SLI :)

[Hicks]

Just installed my BBATI X1800XT today. Man this thing is hot. Mind you I have not ran the fan at 100% due to it being extremely loud and in games I get about 80C steady. That is damn hot. Believe it or not during a 45 loop of 3dmark01 the core got into the 90's!!! I freaked and exited the bench asap. I am worried about my card now due to it getting so hot for that period of time. What is the max these cards can take and do you think having it in the 90's did anything to it? I had no clue these get so hot as my X1800XL with Zalman barely hit 60c full load. Wow.

Seems a little high, though mine was getting hot, with the fan on low. Seems you can either have good cooling, but it's really loud, or low fan speed and no noise, but hot temps.

[cantankerous]

yup unfortunately that is the only trade off until something better comes out. I am unsure if Arctic Silencer can even bring something better than the stock XT HSF as it is already very beefy and heavy.

Hicks when you said you had your fan on low with high temps what is the highest temperature you have ever seen your XT get at and what do you keep it at now as highest and at what clocks and volts?
Thanks.

[Hicks]

Well im just running stock now, im not using ATI-Tool and the other thing, waiting for Rivatuner, so i just use 24/7 clocks.

[cantankerous]

what do you get stock temps idle and load then? Thanks.

[Hicks]

Bout 55/80.

[cantankerous]

yea sounds about dead one to me hicks. I get about 55c idle though in the middle of the day with the computer on for hours it gets to late 50's idle and about 80c load. Sounds about normal then. Thanks for your response. I guess my one day of 90c was a bad, bad thing but 80c load sounds about average for stock cooling in a hot room.

[Hicks]

Yep, i think the temps are perfectly normal, the fan does spin up when i clock the core to 690, i wanna run the fan speed at a constant 34%, so im gonna have to use rivatuner for that.

[cantankerous]

Yep, i think the temps are perfectly normal, the fan does spin up when i clock the core to 690, i wanna run the fan speed at a constant 34%, so im gonna have to use rivatuner for that.

The fan on my card didn't seem to kick up a notch at all when the card was hitting into the 90's yesterday which is what worried me. I am unsure if it was because I had ATI tool installed as well which may have mucked with the fan overriding speeds so no clue. I use ATI tool now to throttle the fan speeds depending on temps. Anything over 79c and the fan kicks into 50% which is kinda loud but not too too bad I suppose. Temps on the card never quite hit 80'c as long as the fan keeps speeding up. I see about 77-78c steady now which should be quite safe to keep this card running strong, crash and artifact free hopefully for at least the next year before I go R580. Fan at 100% drastically drops temps but is too much to handle after a few mins.

[Hicks]

Yeah, the heatsink for these XT's seems very good, i wonder why ATI don't use a bigger fan, like the 512mb GTX's, it could be a lot quieter, and be just as good.