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DDA
11-19-2005, 03:00 PM
Dfi nf4 ud, 146 CABYE 0540 FPBW 1341649jxxxxx, prometeia r404, 2x512 corsair pc3200 bh-5

pi 1 mega

http://www.diarma.it/BENCHRESULTS/146-3488-pi23640.JPG

http://www.diarma.it/BENCHRESULTS/146-3507-pi23828.JPG


pi 32 mega

http://www.diarma.it/BENCHRESULTS/spi32-2119297.JPG

x12

http://www.diarma.it/BENCHRESULTS/146x12.JPG

freecableguy
11-19-2005, 03:03 PM
hmm looks like an FX...lol

afireinside
11-19-2005, 03:05 PM
194 and 162? Wtf...

super_Dude
11-19-2005, 03:06 PM
Can we get a validation at 12x?

DDA
11-19-2005, 03:31 PM
Can we get a validation at 12x?

yes St Thomas :)

x12

http://www.diarma.it/BENCHRESULTS/THOMAS.JPG


for you also x13 :):) :slapass:

http://www.diarma.it/BENCHRESULTS/thomas2.JPG



Thomas thought. '”Let me see, and then I shall believe!”

Pyr0
11-19-2005, 03:50 PM
i think super_Dude may have been talking about a cpu-z validation :shrug:
can we see some of those?
i don't understand how the processor name changes :confused: :confused: :confused: :stick:
it doesn't seem to be related to the multiplier :shrug:

NickS
11-19-2005, 03:54 PM
ye cpu-z validation wld be very nice...if u cant provide that, then we must label it bs.

not that we dont trust you but it's extremely easy to photoshop a cpu-z shot, extremely.

choco
11-19-2005, 03:59 PM
what is your screen max ?

:stick: make a cpu-z validator

[XC] moddolicous
11-19-2005, 04:05 PM
Does it clock better than an FX? Its basically the same as an FX, just supposed to run at a lower voltage.

DDA
11-19-2005, 04:12 PM
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=51570

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=51575

hope that this validates it is NO BS!!

Pyr0
11-19-2005, 04:17 PM
so what's the 194, 162 stuff then?
eg. you have screenshots with the 11x multi saying 194 and 162, so it can't be related to the multiplier :confused:

Vapor
11-19-2005, 04:17 PM
The fact that it says Opty 194 points TOWARDS bs.

Order of operations for you sire: prove it's a 146 (good luck with that), prove it's UNLOCKED (this CPU-Z shens isn't gonna do it for you unfortunately--with the reading as a 194/162 and all), tell us how it happened.

EDIT: saw a CG in there--I'll take that as justification for a multi working. Also another recommendation: run a multi that no Opty can provide (15x and up).

DDA
11-19-2005, 04:18 PM
Does it clock better than an FX? .

really I don't know, but i'm sure it costs 1/5 :) of the FX

DDA
11-19-2005, 04:19 PM
so what's the 194, 162 stuff then?
eg. you have screenshots with the 11x multi saying 194 and 162, so it can't be related to the multiplier :confused:

ask AMD

DDA
11-19-2005, 04:23 PM
The fact that it says Opty 194 points TOWARDS bs.

Order of operations for you sire: prove it's a 146 (good luck with that), prove it's UNLOCKED (this CPU-Z shens isn't gonna do it for you unfortunately--with the reading as a 194/162 and all), tell us how it happened.

short minded, if someone is able to modify numbers/names etc with photoshop why wouldn't he change the number you are talking about ???

Vapor
11-19-2005, 04:26 PM
I'm not even thinking you photochopped it, I'm thinking CPU-Z is bugging out. It could very well be a 154 or an FX-57 that CPU-Z ain't reading right.

goodcooper
11-19-2005, 04:26 PM
if he photoshopped it it would probably say 146 in both screen shots...

so explain why
The fact that it says Opty 194 points TOWARDS bs.
...

Vapor
11-19-2005, 04:28 PM
if he photoshopped it it would probably say 146 in both screen shots...

so explain why

...Why does everyone jump on the Photoshop bandwagon? That's too easy and worthless--I'm thinking software error right now and that this isn't truly a 146.

I'll say this again: prove it's a 146, show us the multis with a piece of software that's working (CPU-Z isn't--CG IS), tell us how it happened or give us more info regarding any circumstances.

guess2098
11-19-2005, 04:30 PM
hum i think GST has one unlock 146 too.....

Vapor
11-19-2005, 04:31 PM
hum i think GST has one unlock 146 too.....Yes he did--FULLY unlocked IIRC.....what are the available multis with this chip DDA?

DDA
11-19-2005, 04:36 PM
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=51580

here's the x15!!

corvus_corax
11-19-2005, 04:41 PM
Wow!!! That looks nice.
Please, can you run GCPUID and show us your multipliers available?
(Maybe a 4-25x, then FX indeed)

GCPUID (http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=65)

DDA
11-19-2005, 04:45 PM
i can verify up to 17 ( 200x17 )

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=51581

DDA
11-19-2005, 05:00 PM
hey Corvus, thanks for the software..

http://www.diarma.it/BENCHRESULTS/thomas3.JPG

Monge
11-19-2005, 05:01 PM
Wow :woot:
UP194???

I have a 146 CABYE 0540 FPBW 1341649jxxxxx too, but haven't installed it yet.
Whats the last digits?

gbomb944
11-19-2005, 05:03 PM
It might be good to ask cpuz why it's reading 194 etc. I don't think it's bs since the venice that was unlocked also had the missing x-64 instruction just like yours. I think you should download version 1.31 though. http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-131.zip

Also you might want to try cbbid and everest and see if it adds any info about the x64 instructions. The other guy rma'd his over the x64 although I would probably consider a decent trade even if they don't still work. The only way to really know would be to install a 64bit os which I don't think he did. I have a feeling the id bit is probably screwed and not the instructions themselves.

So congratulations I wish mine would unlock! How did you discover that it was unlocked? Did something happen or did it come that way?

corvus_corax
11-19-2005, 05:06 PM
hey Corvus, thanks for the software..

http://www.diarma.it/BENCHRESULTS/thomas3.JPG
Excellent man!! You have 4 up to 25

Congratz!

DDA
11-19-2005, 05:09 PM
It might be good to ask cpuz why it's reading 194 etc. I don't think it's bs since the venice that was unlocked also had the missing x-64 instruction just like yours. I think you should download version 1.31 though. http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-131.zip

Also you might want to try cbbid and everest and see if it adds any info about the x64 instructions. The other guy rma'd his over the x64 although I would probably consider a decent trade even if they don't still work. The only way to really know would be to install a 64bit os which I don't think he did. I have a feeling the id bit is probably screwed and not the instructions themselves.

So congratulations I wish mine would unlock! How did you discover that it was unlocked? Did something happen or did it come that way?

i was testing a 148 (x11); finished, took it out and mounted this 146 without changing anything in bios; booted, and after a cpu-z i realized it was x11 instead of x10; not only, when i was down to 11 or 10 i never succeeded to pass above @3451 (with DI), now with prometeia piing 1 mega at @3507 with .03v less !!

ozzimark
11-19-2005, 05:11 PM
that's... interesting. i wonder if there's something about the higher multi's that the silicon likes

lemonlime
11-19-2005, 06:47 PM
Very nice chip DDA, you sure got lucky with that one! Hang on to it for sure!

5days
11-19-2005, 06:58 PM
I hope mine unlocks too. :D

What did you do just before it unlocked?

x714n
11-19-2005, 07:24 PM
i think most of ppl that (is lucky) "unlock" their chips run a higher multiplier processor 1st then swap that to lower multiplier processor
am i right? :confused:

DamienKC
11-19-2005, 10:34 PM
Maybe its almost cold bugging and erroring out?

hipro5
11-19-2005, 10:42 PM
WAY TO GO DDA......... :D :toast:

Dumo
11-19-2005, 11:17 PM
DDA, what you waiting for? :) ..Start torture that chip with more cooling :toast:

hipro5
11-19-2005, 11:41 PM
DDA, what you waiting for? :) ..Start torture that chip with more cooling :toast:

I think that he has already used DI with no resaults.........His style is Dry Ice........ ;) Cold bug straikes again...... ;)

s7e9h3n
11-20-2005, 12:02 AM
i think most of ppl that (is lucky) "unlock" their chips run a higher multiplier processor 1st then swap that to lower multiplier processor
am i right? :confused:
IIRC, GSkillTech's unlocked when he changed his memory and flashed a new bios....

pancake
11-20-2005, 12:13 AM
IIRC, GSkillTech's unlocked when he changed his memory and flashed a new bios....

just what i was going to say.
when i put my 146 in the other day the multiplier options were open in the bios ( only down though if i remember) completely forgot to check if they worked

edit: gcpuid seems to agree with me to

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4739/gcpuid9dj.jpg

DudeMiester
11-20-2005, 12:21 AM
Don't all A64/Opterons have the lower multipliers unlocked? lol.

pancake
11-20-2005, 12:38 AM
dunno i was told they were locked
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1128940&postcount=2

DDA
11-20-2005, 12:39 AM
in order to possibly dissolve any residual reasonable doubts, linking you to my previous posts, in non suspicious time, when i didn't know that my cpu was unlocked and where, you will note, the cpu is identified as opteron 194:

http://www.hwupgrade.it/forum/showthread.php?t=1066493

post #1030
http://www.thelab.gr/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9259&perpage=20&pagenumber=52

http://www.memoryextreme.com/showthread.php?t=3170

etc ...

Dumo
11-20-2005, 12:53 AM
Heres some info....Just posted in the other thread VR Zone AMD plant tour (http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=746&s=4)

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/7081/screenshot0379an.jpg

bazx
11-20-2005, 01:30 AM
chips sure travel the world before we get them

Syzzer
11-20-2005, 02:07 AM
Hmm, and a unlocked 939 CPU again ...

This makes me wondering, in what part of the system can we found the reason it was unlocked?

It is probably some error that was to be found in the hardware when you bought it. But, did the processor unlock itself ('faulty' processor) or did the motherboard unlock the processor ('faulty' motherboard)?

Do have the possibility to try the same sequence again with similar chips? Is the chip also unlocked on other motherboards?

njkid32
11-20-2005, 02:10 AM
Very nice! I must be doing something wrong I just cant get any of mine to unlock:)
Do you have a pic with the drop down with all the mulits....

Xiled
11-20-2005, 03:13 AM
Anyone tested those chips on windows XP 64 bit? Because CPU-z and the other prog doesn't report the x86-64 bit exstension anymore :/

x714n
11-20-2005, 03:24 AM
Anyone tested those chips on windows XP 64 bit? Because CPU-z and the other prog doesn't report the x86-64 bit exstension anymore :/
i havent tested with windows xp 64bit, my opteron has x86-64 bit extension
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=47774
oh sorry i guess you are reffering those unlocked chips
mine is locked

krampak
11-20-2005, 03:25 AM
Could it just be an FX-55/57 programmed as an Opteron but they forgot to lock it? :D

Xiled
11-20-2005, 03:26 AM
I mean on the multiplier unlocked chips ;)

i havent tested with windows xp 64bit, my opteron has x86-64 bit extension
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=47774

Flib
11-20-2005, 03:28 AM
No..
Evertyime the Multis aren't locked they lose the x64 Extensions and CnQ!
Really interesting stuff. But what causes the CPU to be unlocked?

SoF
11-20-2005, 03:49 AM
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=51580

here's the x15!!

where did you get it?
was it bought at a normal shop as a opty 146?
or did you know you got a special one?
I would really love to have on of thoose because my board can't go over 327HTT and I have a Venice 3200+...means 3270MHZ max shot but I'm not able to really max it out :(

OCboy
11-20-2005, 03:55 AM
I think that that was pure luck.AMD sure wouldn't like a way to soft(bios) unlock their proccesors. :stick:

5days
11-20-2005, 04:15 AM
I would really love to have on of thoose because my board can't go over 327HTT and I have a Venice 3200+...means 3270MHZ max shot but I'm not able to really max it out :(
Hehe get an Ultra D, I'm running 365HTT 32M Stable. :D

DDA
11-20-2005, 04:22 AM
where did you get it?
was it bought at a normal shop as a opty 146?
or did you know you got a special one?
I would really love to have on of thoose because my board can't go over 327HTT and I have a Venice 3200+...means 3270MHZ max shot but I'm not able to really max it out :(

146, italian e-tailer; boxed (sealed)

PytonOrm
11-20-2005, 05:33 AM
Topic says opteron 146 unlocked :confused: only opteron 194 and 162 i see in pics ??? fake or what ? where in hell are 146 here ????? :mad:

TheMeatFrog
11-20-2005, 06:36 AM
Topic says opteron 146 unlocked :confused: only opteron 194 and 162 i see in pics ??? fake or what ? where in hell are 146 here ????? :mad:
Did you read the thread? :rolleyes:

MaSell
11-20-2005, 08:57 AM
I wanna same opteron.... unlocking multi, very nice oc - its amazing :D

RPGWiZaRD
11-20-2005, 11:14 AM
Why are people thinking it's so weird that cpu-z shows opteron 194 and 162 etc. That's about same as my old Palomino XP 1900+ when I overclocked it 66MHz (only raised FSB), both at CMOS and windows reported it as XP 2000+ & I clocked it more and it showed as 2100+. In case the multi for some reason is unlocked the programs just can't probably recognise it correctly as it's not a "normal" sample.

daysleeper
11-20-2005, 01:49 PM
Hehe get an Ultra D, I'm running 365HTT 32M Stable. :D
What bios you have in your mobo,my ultra-d won't go over 310.... :slapass:

Welz
11-20-2005, 02:09 PM
sorry, :off:

can my p4 run a multi of 14 ?
http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/3145/untitled5sq.jpg

NickS
11-20-2005, 04:50 PM
it should be able to.

saaya
11-20-2005, 05:21 PM
Why are people thinking it's so weird that cpu-z shows opteron 194 and 162 etc. That's about same as my old Palomino XP 1900+ when I overclocked it 66MHz (only raised FSB), both at CMOS and windows reported it as XP 2000+ & I clocked it more and it showed as 2100+. In case the multi for some reason is unlocked the programs just can't probably recognise it correctly as it's not a "normal" sample.

because there is no opteron 194 and 162, and cpuz reads the chip name/rating independantly from the cpu speed.
didnt you notice that an a64 3000+ will always show as a 3000+ at bootup no matter what speed its running at?

5days
11-20-2005, 05:26 PM
What bios you have in your mobo,my ultra-d won't go over 310.... :slapass:
704-2BTA. It might be your processor actually, because before (on my Venice) my board couldnt even handle 310 either. :stick:

EDIT: BTW its 365MHz x 8. :D

5days
11-20-2005, 05:28 PM
because there is no opteron 194 and 162, and cpuz reads the chip name/rating independantly from the cpu speed.
didnt you notice that an a64 3000+ will always show as a 3000+ at bootup no matter what speed its running at?
Yes but the combined effect of an Overclock + Increased multipliers must be confusing CPUz.

coop
11-20-2005, 07:31 PM
I looked at CBID and it had Sledgehammer listed and .13 soi as opposed to pancakes on previous page, http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1145998#post1145998. 146 0540 fpmw. http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8753/cpuid9fb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

DDA
11-20-2005, 11:15 PM
because there is no opteron 194 and 162, and cpuz reads the chip name/rating independantly from the cpu speed.
didnt you notice that an a64 3000+ will always show as a 3000+ at bootup no matter what speed its running at?

a 148, tested just before mounting this 146, was correctly identified by cpu-z 1.31

T_M
11-21-2005, 06:40 AM
buy another 146, repeat what you did (run 148 at 11x then drop in the 146) and see what happens!

The Coolest
11-21-2005, 08:34 AM
"Yes but the combined effect of an Overclock + Increased multipliers must be confusing CPUz."

No. There are no effects in identifying AMD64 CPUs. There's something that's called BrandID, its a 12 bit field divided in to 2 6bit fields, the higher 6bits are the BrandID value you see in the "BrandID" field in GCPUID and CPU-z, the lower 6 bits have the CPU rating number. there's specific formulas for each type of CPU, and the end result is the PR number for the chip. So software, if written correct, and both GCPUID and CPUz are written correctly in this regard can not get confused.

coop:
The versions used in that screenshot are just too old, that's probably why the CPU is being recognized incorrectly.

biohead
11-21-2005, 09:08 AM
what if you set the 146's multi to 12x and then swap to the 148?

don_vercetti
11-21-2005, 10:07 AM
that's pretty cool imho, make good use of it. I bet you can sell it for a ton, as well. "unlocked opteron clocks to fx-59 speeds, fraction of the price" be a real seller.

The Coolest
11-21-2005, 12:10 PM
what if you set the 146's multi to 12x and then swap to the 148?
Interesting idea.
It could be a bios/board bug that "Unlocks" these chips. Give it a try, see what happens.

Vapor
11-21-2005, 12:15 PM
I think the chips have to be similar--I ran my 4400+ at 11x multi and then swapped in my 146 and it didn't unlock at all :stick:

After that, in fact, I had problems with running the 10x multi for long durations of time with my 4400+ (switched up to 11x after an hour or so). A BIOS update seemed to have fixed it.

DDA
11-21-2005, 03:06 PM
1 mb, 32 mb and 3d2001 with his 850xt in 2nd pci-e slot no mods and stock cooling

http://www.diarma.it/BENCHRESULTS/pi22.JPG


http://www.diarma.it/BENCHRESULTS/pi32-2051047.JPG


http://www.diarma.it/BENCHRESULTS/3d3513.JPG

DeToNaToR.cl
11-21-2005, 03:56 PM
Rare CPU indeed

K404
11-21-2005, 04:01 PM
1 mb, 32 mb and 3d2001 with his 850xt in 2 nd pci-3 slot no mods and stock cooling

http://www.diarma.it/BENCHRESULTS/pi22.JPG


http://www.diarma.it/BENCHRESULTS/pi32-2051047.JPG


http://www.diarma.it/BENCHRESULTS/3d3513.JPG

??? Stock cooling? More details please. Stepping, test conditions.
Those numbers are high, and to just post that without details is asking for a BS flag. (IMHO)

s7e9h3n
11-21-2005, 04:13 PM
??? Stock cooling? More details please. Stepping, test conditions.
Those numbers are high, and to just post that without details is asking for a BS flag. (IMHO)
He's talking about the Vid Card ;)

Vapor
11-21-2005, 04:32 PM
Yeah, no way stock CPU cooling can do negative CPU temps....unless the ambient is SUPER low (and it ain't--just look at MBM5).

DDA
11-21-2005, 10:48 PM
cpu dryice, video card stock cooling, chipset cooled water 10°

really i don't care to ascertain why/what this cpu results unlocked ..

i repeat, i did nothing special, just ordinary overclock operations like load / reload biosses (all tastes/flavors) from 510-1 to 704-bta; best for me 510-3fix

I'm convinced this cpu exited AMD fab unlocked


screen only

http://www.diarma.it/BENCHRESULTS/3655.JPG

Jupiler
11-22-2005, 02:05 AM
I don't know but your 3dmark01 score seems pretty low for its speeds, should be much higher than that.
I'm getting 35800 marks with my 146 @ 3.2Ghz (using 166 divider for memory), X800GTO @ X800XT (581/601).

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8799497

Your cpu runs 300Mhz higher than mine. Your card clocks are not bad for an unmodded card.

For example, when I had my X850XT, my best score was 33358 marks with a Winnie at 2766Mhz, card at 615/630.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8441296

I don't understand why you only have 1400 marks more with 750Mhz more cpu speed, 1MB cache also plays a role.

DDA
11-22-2005, 02:14 AM
I don't know but your 3dmark01 score seems pretty low for its speeds, should be much higher than that.
I'm getting 35800 marks with my 146 @ 3.2Ghz (using 166 divider for memory), X800GTO @ X800XT (581/601).

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8799497

Your cpu runs 300Mhz higher than mine. Your card clocks are not bad for an unmodded card.

For example, when I had my X850XT, my best score was 33358 marks with a Winnie at 2766Mhz, card at 615/630.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8441296

I don't understand why you only have 1400 marks more with 750Mhz more cpu speed, 1MB cache also plays a role.

will not be just for talking my saying video card in second pci-e slot ...
also, screenie intended to show benchable @3512 and not score;
anyhow, this evening i will bench again with video in first slot but cpu under chilled water, reverting with results

K404
11-22-2005, 02:17 AM
Sorry bout that... wasnt reading it properly :slapass: :slap:

DDA
11-22-2005, 02:53 PM
I don't know but your 3dmark01 score seems pretty low for its speeds, should be much higher than that.
I'm getting 35800 marks with my 146 @ 3.2Ghz (using 166 divider for memory), X800GTO @ X800XT (581/601).

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8799497

Your cpu runs 300Mhz higher than mine. Your card clocks are not bad for an unmodded card.

For example, when I had my X850XT, my best score was 33358 marks with a Winnie at 2766Mhz, card at 615/630.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8441296

I don't understand why you only have 1400 marks more with 750Mhz more cpu speed, 1MB cache also plays a role.

as i promised
some screenies with video card mounted at slot 1, same frequencies, cpu @3200 cooled with cold water (10°-12°)


@3200, win xp

http://www.diarma.it/BENCHRESULTS/3d-3200-36145.JPG


@3200, win 2000

http://www.diarma.it/BENCHRESULTS/3d-36675.jpg

G H Z
11-24-2005, 01:14 AM
Thats a very fast 1M @ 3.57Ghz :toast:

Is that still on the Corsair memory & 510-3 BIOS?

DDA
11-24-2005, 01:33 AM
Thats a very fast 1M @ 3.57Ghz :toast:

Is that still on the Corsair memory & 510-3 BIOS?

yes

G H Z
11-24-2005, 02:20 AM
Can you run that memory speed without H2O on chipset?

Benefit14snake
11-24-2005, 02:09 PM
I think this is either a fluke that you got an unlocked one or the people are AMD are saying to themselfs "Look how pathetic they are, trying to figure out why his CPU has higher multis, when its really simple, all you have to do is XX X XXXX XXX"

OpTiX
11-24-2005, 02:44 PM
nice clock you go there

PHILIP1193
11-24-2005, 07:55 PM
that will b worth a lot of money when it comes to be sold, last oen of these i saw as a 3000+ winnie iirc :s

Nice chip and clocks!!!

phil

DDA
11-24-2005, 10:51 PM
Can you run that memory speed without H2O on chipset?

yes, chipset's water cooling because of having disposal of necessary material, absolutely not a must

developments !!

lost all ram frequencies above 133; i.e. now booting with ram at 266 no matter what the divider set in bios (working only 100, 120 and 133); but, gained higher htt values, actually running at 430 ..:)

dinos22
11-24-2005, 11:18 PM
I think this is either a fluke that you got an unlocked one or the people are AMD are saying to themselfs "Look how pathetic they are, trying to figure out why his CPU has higher multis, when its really simple, all you have to do is XX X XXXX XXX"
:rofl: :rofl:

2||Para
11-25-2005, 08:09 AM
chips sure travel the world before we get them


??? Had my Opteron for a month http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=48183

or did you mean something else?

b1tterman
11-25-2005, 02:06 PM
compared to that, my venice 3000+ looks pretty poor now

moonlightcheese
11-25-2005, 03:06 PM
i seem to recall a guy who unlocked a 3000+ by sitting it next to an ash tray for a couple of days and completely ignoring it...

da-key
11-25-2005, 03:50 PM
i seem to recall a guy who unlocked a 3000+ by sitting it next to an ash tray for a couple of days and completely ignoring it...
:D

nice chip there. Very nice.

DDA
11-26-2005, 02:20 AM
http://www.diarma.it/BENCHRESULTS/pi32-2051047.JPG


http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8804146
no mods, water cooled only (10°-12°)



http://www.diarma.it/BENCHRESULTS/39461.jpg

gismaster
11-27-2005, 12:48 AM
very nice DDA. Awesome........as usual ;)

dinos22
11-27-2005, 02:51 AM
wow amazing 32M time for 3.5GHz